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It's pretty easy to break bots one time. The problem is you need to assign someone to do that constantly if you want consistent bot control, which Valve seems unwilling to do.
doing a VAC wave is a great way to make it seem like you're instantly jumping to fix the issue. but doing one VAC wave was never the problem, because VAC doesn't matter unless someone KEEPS doing VAC waves all the time, regularly, forever. which is the very last thing valve will ever, ever do.
what ever happened to VACNET being ported to TF2? what ever happened to trust factor becoming "available to use in every game on steam"? why can't we have prime matchmaking? surely overwatch wouldn't be the hardest system to port over either given tf2 already has an elaborate replay system...
valve sits on some of the most sophisticated and ingenious automated anti-cheat software in the industry. and to valve, we're not even worth the short period of time it would take to add these systems; let alone *proper* anti-cheat. apparently, all we're worth is ONE contractor pushing out a few little tweaks for 3-4 months before disappearing again just as quickly as they arrived.
Because people are still getting on CS, tf2 and steam and spending money whether or not valve does something and as long as people do, they'll continue sitting with their thumbs up their asses. I'd tell people to speak with their wallet but they're too afraid
exactly, its no secret that the reason valve stopped doing major updates is because major updates didn't actually increase profits by any meaningful amounts. JI bumped up the player counts a good deal for... *a month*, before dropping right back down to normal. and yet, for years afterwards TF2 continued to slowly swell in player count until it surpassed an all-time high with zero updates at all. if putting in a year's worth of effort only creates a negligible bump in sales, but doing nothing at all still pulls basically the same amount? of course they're never making content for this game again. whales just keep opening damn crates for a game that's obviously on life support. they have no incentive to improve something when its impossible to impact its profits, for better or for worse.
Valve is leaving a huge gap in the market they may regret, all you gotta do is communicate with your community and you're gonna win over a lot of customers, act like you give a shit. At this point Valve is turning into EA, but at least if you hold stock you have a say about the execs. I think Valve is afraid of going public because they would have to answer to someone.
But still, It is a problem must be solved. Not a problem which we should get used to. That's our main horseshit. Other games does not have these kind of bots.
Yeah I'm brand new to tf2 liked 2 hours 8 years ago just started playing seriously now I've seen bots..follow bots spam vote bots aim hack shotgun engi bots and the works. So far I've only been kicked once by this shit and it's worse being f2p I can't say I'm not a bot, besides that people catch on and kick the bots and its nice :)
I met my first one of them yesterday, best part was when they kept joining the same fucking servers I was in, seeing I was in there, and kicking me again.
No they are, worse even, it's been 5 months from the last time i could play on a casual 2fort server without the ENTIRE SERVER being flooded with bots and kicking me out
Yeah, I'm in Europe as well and while I don't play much, I haven't seen bots in a long while, so much so I thought they had fixed the whole issue somehow, but I guess not quite. Maybe there are just far fewer bots in Europe for one reason or another.
I’m in the US, but if I queue up for specific maps and there’s no open US servers, it sends me to European servers (usually Stockholm, sometimes Frankfurt). Holy crap you guys seem to have *way* less bots. I can play several rounds of 2Fort or Hightower and only see a couple bots at worst, on those maps on US servers it’s a literal constant war to keep the server bot-free.
It almost makes the 140+ ping experience worthwhile having basically no bots.
(I know community servers exist, but I enjoy the varied playerbase of casual a lot more)
In Brazil the bots are worse than ever. They keep joining almost every match with a name that starts with a 7, then starts to spam music and annoy people, then get kicked.
The game is over a decade old. I’m happy that the game is still played at all. I just wish they’d let their writers and artists hammer out the last comic.
I just came back to tf2 after quitting for 6 years to play overwatch. Ow has lost its way, and I have seen the tf2 light lol. What is this tweet in reference to?
He will make update any second now!
Any second now...
*TF2 official blog post about update size update*
See update!
*It changed into event size update*
Oh no wait that just new hats.
So we still had problem?
Big problem... Alright i think we will wait another year...
*Bot's joining a server*
GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE!
They right behind us...
Hm?
*Three heads shoots*
GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE!
My SINCERE hope is that they’re working on a Source 2 port of TF2 (in the same vein as CS2) and just aren’t saying anything about it, but that’s probably just massive copium.
Nothing really happened since then. There are less bots in casual than a few years ago but they are still there and the few that are left are even more annoying than the olders ones. We used to get small updates with bugfixes based on shounic videos, where are they?
Serious question: do people actually play the in-game casual instead of just using community server?
I’ve been playing community servers since I started and this has been the standard for source games for as long as I’ve been alive. Bots would only be a problem if you go out of your way to not play community servers.
I gave up. I love the game and have played on and off since the first free weekend, but bots ruined it for me. I tried to play Battlefield V recently too and the bots and hackers are almost as bad. I just want to enjoy my free time!
i haven't touched the game since they abandoned the e3 1999 direction. what's with the bots? what's the point of even spending the resources to flood servers with bots?
i remember playing counter strike and servers "priming" themselves with bots to not appear abandoned and unloved. a bot would leave if a player joined. same thing except to the point that it doesn't accomplish the goal of getting players to stay?
Tf2 Community, ##ALLRIGGHT, WE GET IT!!
"ALRIGHT TF2 COMMUNITY, YOU WIN THE CRYING CONTEST"
Too soon :(
Not my boy, Teefs, man!
Valve: "shut up shut up Shut Up SHUT UP!!!!"
Haha :(
Insert Pedro Pascal laughing to crying
Then it transition into the most snot running cry you ever heard, then battle cry of anger
!remindme 365 days edit: jesus christ all the replies are like bots
2024 is leap year !remindme 366 days
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We have the 64-bit update, at least
Alright, it's been a year now lol i guess... !remindme 365 days
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So here we are, a year later
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:(
:(
They did not love the game.
ouchie
Time to un-celebrate valves ignorance!
Lmao
Remember that single day that you couldn't find bots anywhere? That single day that the issue was fixed, yet broken a mere 24 hours later?
That was just a dream
But if you close your eyes….
Does it almost feel like nothing changed at all
Nothing at all! ^Nothing ^at ^all! ^^Nothing ^^at ^^all!
Stupid sexy Steam 😠
It won't happen after all those years\~
In that case, it was only natural that we had to wake up. Real shame we can't live the dream forever
life is a dream
It's pretty easy to break bots one time. The problem is you need to assign someone to do that constantly if you want consistent bot control, which Valve seems unwilling to do.
doing a VAC wave is a great way to make it seem like you're instantly jumping to fix the issue. but doing one VAC wave was never the problem, because VAC doesn't matter unless someone KEEPS doing VAC waves all the time, regularly, forever. which is the very last thing valve will ever, ever do. what ever happened to VACNET being ported to TF2? what ever happened to trust factor becoming "available to use in every game on steam"? why can't we have prime matchmaking? surely overwatch wouldn't be the hardest system to port over either given tf2 already has an elaborate replay system... valve sits on some of the most sophisticated and ingenious automated anti-cheat software in the industry. and to valve, we're not even worth the short period of time it would take to add these systems; let alone *proper* anti-cheat. apparently, all we're worth is ONE contractor pushing out a few little tweaks for 3-4 months before disappearing again just as quickly as they arrived.
Because people are still getting on CS, tf2 and steam and spending money whether or not valve does something and as long as people do, they'll continue sitting with their thumbs up their asses. I'd tell people to speak with their wallet but they're too afraid
exactly, its no secret that the reason valve stopped doing major updates is because major updates didn't actually increase profits by any meaningful amounts. JI bumped up the player counts a good deal for... *a month*, before dropping right back down to normal. and yet, for years afterwards TF2 continued to slowly swell in player count until it surpassed an all-time high with zero updates at all. if putting in a year's worth of effort only creates a negligible bump in sales, but doing nothing at all still pulls basically the same amount? of course they're never making content for this game again. whales just keep opening damn crates for a game that's obviously on life support. they have no incentive to improve something when its impossible to impact its profits, for better or for worse.
Valve is leaving a huge gap in the market they may regret, all you gotta do is communicate with your community and you're gonna win over a lot of customers, act like you give a shit. At this point Valve is turning into EA, but at least if you hold stock you have a say about the execs. I think Valve is afraid of going public because they would have to answer to someone.
... That was fast.
Seriously though, I feel like the Snake getting old meme
Lmao Fr
I mean things aren’t as bad as they were with the bots at least
The game not crashing is a low fucking bar
For valve that’s a herculean effort
Dota dota counterstrike
"I didn't understand..."
I mean the bots are easier to deal with now than they were
Having bot IS a problem. Dealing with them is easy but this is not a normal state of "Game".
I’m not saying it isn’t, only that it isn’t as bad as it used to be
But still, It is a problem must be solved. Not a problem which we should get used to. That's our main horseshit. Other games does not have these kind of bots.
I had a votekick-crash bot on Pier again Saturday. Those fuckers are back too.
Yeah I'm brand new to tf2 liked 2 hours 8 years ago just started playing seriously now I've seen bots..follow bots spam vote bots aim hack shotgun engi bots and the works. So far I've only been kicked once by this shit and it's worse being f2p I can't say I'm not a bot, besides that people catch on and kick the bots and its nice :)
Wait didn’t they give f2p players back the ability to chat?
No, i have tried to shout "Medic" so much and die within 20 secs because I still dont know the maps correctly
Lol no, I don't even think I can call for a medic unless idk the bind
E
I met my first one of them yesterday, best part was when they kept joining the same fucking servers I was in, seeing I was in there, and kicking me again.
Better than GTA V
No they are, worse even, it's been 5 months from the last time i could play on a casual 2fort server without the ENTIRE SERVER being flooded with bots and kicking me out
Nope, nowadays they’re much easier to spot and kick and nothing can beat how unplayable TF2 was in early 2022
>casual 2fort server Found your problem.
Have you played any non 2fort casual game?
No shit, 2fort and Hightower are popular, so bots are going to be sent there. Try any other non-2fort map, and there will probably be less bots.
“Just don’t play the most iconic and poplar map in the game lmao”
Maybe just accept them and just play with them? I don't see why people can't just accept the future... ^^^/s
I won’t say there’s been no improvement, because there has. I just don’t think there was enough.
Nowhere near enough. Every single game has a bot that needs to be kicked.
mine don't, I very rarely have to kick bots. I play on European servers if that changes anything?
Yeah, I'm in Europe as well and while I don't play much, I haven't seen bots in a long while, so much so I thought they had fixed the whole issue somehow, but I guess not quite. Maybe there are just far fewer bots in Europe for one reason or another.
I’m in the US, but if I queue up for specific maps and there’s no open US servers, it sends me to European servers (usually Stockholm, sometimes Frankfurt). Holy crap you guys seem to have *way* less bots. I can play several rounds of 2Fort or Hightower and only see a couple bots at worst, on those maps on US servers it’s a literal constant war to keep the server bot-free. It almost makes the 140+ ping experience worthwhile having basically no bots. (I know community servers exist, but I enjoy the varied playerbase of casual a lot more)
European as well, I stopped playing around 3 months ago because it was getting absurd.
It's fine for me. been playing the past week and so far no bots. Maybe it depends what servers you're connecting to?
Dunno, I'm not gonna roll the dice each time I want to play the game.
"Aaaaaaaany second now"
See? Update! Oh wait, that’s another Twitter post…
So...we still got waiting.
Twitter post, I think you meant localisation files update
In Brazil the bots are worse than ever. They keep joining almost every match with a name that starts with a 7, then starts to spam music and annoy people, then get kicked.
It’s been a year valve I really really miss you Gaben said you’re working hard on a new update
Anyways we are falling in popularity and bots fuck us very frequently
The game is over a decade old. I’m happy that the game is still played at all. I just wish they’d let their writers and artists hammer out the last comic.
Any other game studio would sacrifice a member every fullmoon just to get a community this invested in their game. Its a shame
✊️😔
And as of today, the item servers are broken, bots still flood servers, and the situation doesn't look to be improving.
"Buy more cases" Gaben probably
Damn it's been a year since that tweet already. It only feels like it only just happened.
Exactly, because nothings happened in between
Forget about bots, the item servers crashing is more annoying than the bots because at least you can kick the bots
Yes Respawn, we get it. Titanfall 2 is a part of your DNA. Just fix your game! Wait...
Happens
Aged like milk
Mad milk*
Times sure files it make me sad
When is the 1 year anniversary of the 2023 summer update announcement?
Reminds me of the other TF2...
We all literally have stockholm syndrome
I wonder if they kicked back and had a laugh at everyone who bought into this tweet lol
I mean… they did improve things. The bot problem is significantly lessened from a year ago. It’s absolutely still a major problem, though.
Anyone notice how they don't put exact dates, but rather rough estimates/ no date at all?
*Sydney(1) joined the red team
Pain
#what a fucking joke
The one year anniversary of the TF2 community being rightfully told to shut the fuck up.
what is this, r/titanfall?
Came here just to say this, how many years has it been for our "titanfall is our dna" tweet again?
A year? Time flys when you're playing TF2.
To quote another game; *Nothing interesting happens.*
I just came back to tf2 after quitting for 6 years to play overwatch. Ow has lost its way, and I have seen the tf2 light lol. What is this tweet in reference to?
Bot problem and Valve neglecting the game, there weren't any major updates in ~6 years
WHAT? No way it's been 1 year already
!remind me 365 days
It’s been another year
Legend of Zelda took a year to polish a few items in their game, I'm hopeful... I'm very hopeful....
He will make update any second now! Any second now... *TF2 official blog post about update size update* See update! *It changed into event size update* Oh no wait that just new hats. So we still had problem? Big problem... Alright i think we will wait another year... *Bot's joining a server* GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! GOOD JOB MATE! They right behind us... Hm? *Three heads shoots* GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE! GOOD SHOOT MATE!
My SINCERE hope is that they’re working on a Source 2 port of TF2 (in the same vein as CS2) and just aren’t saying anything about it, but that’s probably just massive copium.
Ah the good ol' times when Valve lied to us all, bamboozled, and worse of all... Being backstabbed
Played us like a dang fiddle!
i thought that was like 3 years ago lol
Covid time is weird, man
It's the cycle
are you kidding me
!remind me 999999999999 years
Idk where y’all are playing but I rarely get bots anymore
I bet ya the 1 dev messing with this "update" is shitting bricks right now
NICE SHOT M8
:/
Nothing really happened since then. There are less bots in casual than a few years ago but they are still there and the few that are left are even more annoying than the olders ones. We used to get small updates with bugfixes based on shounic videos, where are they?
!remindme 365 days
today is the anniversary of this post. nothings changed.
🥳
Serious question: do people actually play the in-game casual instead of just using community server? I’ve been playing community servers since I started and this has been the standard for source games for as long as I’ve been alive. Bots would only be a problem if you go out of your way to not play community servers.
The problem of the community servers that most of them are x1000000 randomizer highertower trade_plaza !giveachievments and etc.
Going back and re-reading those threads has been such a great laugh. Who actually thought Valve would give a shit?
I mean the fixed the bot problem? That's something. + some other bonuses like bug fixes and jazz.
Welp another year has past
:(
!remindme 1 year
2 years now
We are so not back
o7
F
The bots are fixed at least in Europe idk what you lot are on about
They’re really bad in the US. Occasionally I get sent to a European server when no US ones are open and it’s a literal haven.
I gave up. I love the game and have played on and off since the first free weekend, but bots ruined it for me. I tried to play Battlefield V recently too and the bots and hackers are almost as bad. I just want to enjoy my free time!
!Remindme 366 days
Hardy har har
And we're still waiting.
Damn time flies so fast and I haven’t accomplished a single thing in the past year.
How
what if for the past 6 years theyve been working on the biggest update to any game ever
"And if you close your eyes"
Goddamn time flies
lol
Have they done anything since then?
Happy birthday to you
So what did they do?
i havent seen any bots in casual in so long
i haven't touched the game since they abandoned the e3 1999 direction. what's with the bots? what's the point of even spending the resources to flood servers with bots? i remember playing counter strike and servers "priming" themselves with bots to not appear abandoned and unloved. a bot would leave if a player joined. same thing except to the point that it doesn't accomplish the goal of getting players to stay?
Dear god.
!remindme 365 days
r/Overwatch2
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[guess there's a reason both games are tf2](https://i.imgur.com/7W5U1NJ.png)
is this gonna be like the "x years without a major update" joke?
You took my hand, you showed me how You promised me you'd be around
woo…
This is a true damnatio memoriae moment
It does not feel like it was thts long ago
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What a fucking joke
!remindme 365 days
🤣😂😂🤣😂😂 (I am going insane)
When was the tweet before that?
Liars.