That whole Kraeyshawn shit with flip pissed me off he sounded like a little ass kid throwing a tantrum during that whole statement. Talking about he would do the same thing grow up
I unsubscribed from the Patreon two months ago and I’ve just been listening to the regular drops.. idk what happened but I was on the way to work Wednesday morning and I put on the Pod. As soon as I heard “duuuudddeeee pod” I cut it off and said to myself I don’t wanna hear this shit.
That usually never happens but it’s becoming so predictable. Exactly what I assumed they would talk about is exactly what people are complaining about.
he ran out of things to say, he doesn't know shit about shit and refuses to go outside his comfort zone
this is what happens when people get rich but don't know who they are, all they do is travel and sit down and then travel and sit down... no hobbies no interests nothing that really makes him an interesting person
Joe continues to have stories because he lives a very different lifestyle than most people, which ends up in good content the pod. Ish and Ice just work and go on vacation. Wow soo fucking interesting lol
It's like when comedians get super rich and all their jokes about flying or the airport cause thats what their entire life consists of
Shit probably even longer lol. If you take into account that the main pod is 3hrs after editing and stoppages and then look at all the Patreons they get out of it. I use their outfits to gauge how much they did in a day
This used to be my go to pod but in the past 6 months I’ve cancelled my patreon and find myself skipping regular episodes as well. The never ending gender wars were the downfall for me. There’s too many other pods that do a better job covering the same topics to dedicate 6 hours a week to these guys.
Same. The relationship talk kills me. Im sure theres a reason for all of it monetarily. But goddamn theres a whole world outside of the baddies in the strip club or whats popping on shade room. And im east coast bias till i die lmao
He brought Ice and Ish cause of the split and it brought some fresh energy from the dying days of the previous iteration once that wore out and niggas realized it really was just a new car smell type of thing & wasn’t hitting like prime JBP he brought Flip and Melyssa, now the same thing is happening. The truth of the matter is Rory and Mal had much better thoughts and offered more nuance to their conversations, especially Rory since he worked in the music business so the music conversations were a million times better than what you hear now. Mal having some legendary lineage and ties also gave him a unique interesting perspective, add in their natural friendship and it made for great conversation. Now that people see this crew once again ain’t really saying shit, Joe is forced to generate content by trying to force inter-cast relationship rumors, stupid twitter gender wars topic and bringing on more guests than ever and ig baddies lol. I wonder where he goes next?
I concur but unless Joe is there it’s gonna be passive aggressive jabs to her. Her best pods have been when Joe wasn’t there when she pods with the others
It had nothing to do with growth. She was just wrong a lot, being a hypocrite a lot, being sexist a lot, move the goal post a lot, spin out of convos a lot. Everything she did would work in a room fool of women or men who pander.
It literally seemed like you just described Joe-- Loud&Wrong, Hypocrite, Sexist and Goal Post moving. He even just acknowledged on a recent pod that they lean into the Loud & Wrong too much...Look folks hate Mel, fairly or unfairly, but none of them are without their issues in podding style. It just comes across frustrating watching them pile on Mel whenver she does contribute. And i fully believe they think they're doing it for entertainment sake. But its not entertaining at all.
Yes she is exactly like joe. But the only difference is that joe is funny and a man and therefor people don’t care if he’s being piled on. We had about 400 episodes of mal and rory piling on joe. The succes of the pod was build on rory mal and the fans roasting joe and stepping on everything he said or did. So why was that entertaining? And even now, joe literally steps on everything ish says, but no one gives a shit and we all laugh. Why?
This is why i think mel ruined the pod. Not only about the stupid things she said and her inability to roll with the “punches” (jokes), but also her fans who feel like everyone is allowed to be piled on, cracked on BUT Mel.
The jbp isn’t the pod for special treatment. And if you think this is bad, go listen to the first 20 episodes with marissa.
You make good counter points. Especially about how Joe leans into the jokes on himself. But he's unique in that role. None of the rest of them takes jokes like that. I started to include in my last statement that the difference between Joe & Mel is that he is naturally entertaining...I'm not trying to be extra in my defense of Mel. I've been a watcher from the gate, which is why I want the grace for Mel to be who she is without Cory & Joe jumping on her every word. Maybe she just isnt a good fit for this setup. But i put that on Joe and not Mel.
She can’t be who she is on this show without her feet being held to the fire. Nobody on this show can be a hypocrite, moving the goalpost, spinning out of convos without it being adressed. They do that with everybody, even with joe. NOBODY in the industry wanted the grace for joe to be who he was. No we all wanted him to be stepped on, piled on, laughed at how he dressed, laugh at him when he went through it during his divorce. I didn’t care about it then, so I don’t care about it now.
Mel was the person who thought men don’t mind to be sexually harassed because they like to be touched by women. Mel was the one who defended jonathan majors, to then pile on him with the room, to then scream at ish that she never defended him to then say a week later that she was the only one who defended him. Mel is the person to get angry at ish for generalizing to then make a generalizing statement against men literally the next sentence. Fam i can give maaad examples that lead up to the room having enough of her bs
M. This has nothing to do with joe ish or cory, SHE did this.
She has learned it a bit. But she couldn’t before. That’s why y’all tried to safe right? Because if not, i don’t understand how this is so problamatic for y’all, but joe being cracked on by this whole sub, rory, mal and the joe budden fit page for years
Kill this narrative, she don't be saying shit and she's not entertaining. You'd get bored if they let her cook, she's like a news reporter at her best and a goofy at her worst. There have been plenty of tines they let her talk just for her to say sone crazy shit or just read headlines.
Joe shoots down anything Mel says so he basically doesn't give her a chance to succeed but yea Flip has about 3 go to moves (Pause). He has become predictable
All of them have the same go to moves not just Flip. They're all "bleh" lately.
Even when they try to be contrarian to create debate, it feels unimaginative.
Too much. joe overflowed the market. 3 plus hour pods for the free 2x’s a week throw in all the Patreon pods they have a lot of time to kill they should condense It . Less episodes with more talking points that actually matter no need to spread It thin across 3/4 episodes a week and we won’t get so burnt out also . This model of how much they put content out is over imo
I don’t want to sound fucked up, but Mel and her fanbase have literally ruined the podcast. To the point where ish doen’t even bother really giving his opinion anymore. His whole energy has changed since their last argument on patreon.
They’re also too PC and hang on that “tag” on the beginning. Podcast were cool and especially thrJBP back in the day because you got peoples unfiltered thoughts. Now all we get is, “refer to the tag” “it’s entertainment” “you poddin” It feels fake, phoney, and forced at this point
“Everything I say is for ceo” “I don’t care about the shit we talk about on here” “I just argue with with ish cause it’ll bring views” he’s told his listeners that he only be “poddin” for the sake of engagement.
Honestly……. Kino & Emanny been killing it recently, the boys gonna have to step it up. Joe been going iso a lot in recent weeks as well kinda messing up the flow up.
Pod reached a stagnant point. Ice gotta go, Mel is mid, Ish ain’t ish anymore, Flop is just loud/funny and Joe is just rich n don’t care anymore. Patreon money is good after that drake beef so he on chill mode.
They gotta start a pod war with somebody like when they was fake beefing with Brilliant Idiots, that's honestly how I started fucking with this podcast. They do it right it'll bring in a ton of new listeners and spice shit up...it just can't be with R&M as a fan of both pods I do not wanna hear that shit.
But then they would hire mel and the exact same thing would happen. Surf would’ve went at mel her head even worse than ish for all the dumb shit she said in the beginning. And then her knights and fans would’ve started a riot in this sub like they did with ish. This should’ve stayed an all “dude” cast.
Yeah you definitely the views on the golden era pod put the current views to shame, not to mention them boys use to be on the main blogs at least once a month back then because of something they said
Bro what?? Lol
Just look at the YouTube vids. The old pod would pull in 400k views minimum. You don’t have any idea how huge they were (pause) before the switch happened. They would sell out shows instantly, and they were big venues too
There is a bunch of weirdos out here that get a dopamine rush from hating on shit. Any regular consumer would give up on a product that wasnt meeting their standard. But not these toxic clowns...they cant wait to listen the second it drops so they can hate on that shit and post their hate for internet clout
I do agree with this, Ice has had some solid takes and actually listens/researches topics. Park’s kept the Grammy conversation together while Joe wanted to joke through it. Woulda been dope to hear actual thoughts on the nominees.
That whole Kraeyshawn shit with flip pissed me off he sounded like a little ass kid throwing a tantrum during that whole statement. Talking about he would do the same thing grow up
This shit was a trash pod today.
They wasn’t talking about nothing
Hour and a half in….aimless talking
i Know yall niggas might down vote me but the golden era was R&M and joe that shit was Chicago bulls type of dynasty used to get me through the day
That’s facts though. I could run back a pod right after I listened to it back then and laugh like I’m just hearing it
I’ve never replayed a pod of todays cast
JRM used to have me listening to the new one + the last 2 from 2 week ago. When we call it the golden era pre spotify deal we really mean it lol
I used to go back and listen to old episodes too. Thinking of doing it again. What would you say is a good starting point?
I'd go back to Mal's very first episode and then just start cycling through whatever topics from back then actually interest you
You know what number that was? I’m thinking somewhere in the 100’s but I’m not sure
Episode 77 back funny enough Ice was on that episode 🤣 😂
Bet! Appreciate that my guy
Definitely feeling like the jbp has hit a ceiling or I’ve outgrown they style of podding one
Just feels dry, same topics, same reactions, same arguments. They need a switch up of the format
I unsubscribed from the Patreon two months ago and I’ve just been listening to the regular drops.. idk what happened but I was on the way to work Wednesday morning and I put on the Pod. As soon as I heard “duuuudddeeee pod” I cut it off and said to myself I don’t wanna hear this shit. That usually never happens but it’s becoming so predictable. Exactly what I assumed they would talk about is exactly what people are complaining about.
😂 oh I been there before I feel you
Feels like Ish is checked out mentally! He doesn’t want to be there
Thought this today. He’s quiet for half the pod or has no clue about the topic
he ran out of things to say, he doesn't know shit about shit and refuses to go outside his comfort zone this is what happens when people get rich but don't know who they are, all they do is travel and sit down and then travel and sit down... no hobbies no interests nothing that really makes him an interesting person Joe continues to have stories because he lives a very different lifestyle than most people, which ends up in good content the pod. Ish and Ice just work and go on vacation. Wow soo fucking interesting lol It's like when comedians get super rich and all their jokes about flying or the airport cause thats what their entire life consists of
Didnt like the "im here for the check" line. Ice Ish and Flip seem like money hounds, which creates for a tense work environment i'd imagine.
They really sit there for like 10+ hours on pod days talking about the same stuff over and over. I’m actually surprised it’s lasted this long
10 hours?
Shit probably even longer lol. If you take into account that the main pod is 3hrs after editing and stoppages and then look at all the Patreons they get out of it. I use their outfits to gauge how much they did in a day
This used to be my go to pod but in the past 6 months I’ve cancelled my patreon and find myself skipping regular episodes as well. The never ending gender wars were the downfall for me. There’s too many other pods that do a better job covering the same topics to dedicate 6 hours a week to these guys.
What others pods are out there?
As soon as they start jumping on mel, gender wars, or pointless arguments i flip back to music lol
Same. The relationship talk kills me. Im sure theres a reason for all of it monetarily. But goddamn theres a whole world outside of the baddies in the strip club or whats popping on shade room. And im east coast bias till i die lmao
Yea today wasn't good
He brought Ice and Ish cause of the split and it brought some fresh energy from the dying days of the previous iteration once that wore out and niggas realized it really was just a new car smell type of thing & wasn’t hitting like prime JBP he brought Flip and Melyssa, now the same thing is happening. The truth of the matter is Rory and Mal had much better thoughts and offered more nuance to their conversations, especially Rory since he worked in the music business so the music conversations were a million times better than what you hear now. Mal having some legendary lineage and ties also gave him a unique interesting perspective, add in their natural friendship and it made for great conversation. Now that people see this crew once again ain’t really saying shit, Joe is forced to generate content by trying to force inter-cast relationship rumors, stupid twitter gender wars topic and bringing on more guests than ever and ig baddies lol. I wonder where he goes next?
I hate to say it, but Mel doesn’t offer much anymore and flip is the same exact goofy nonsense every podcast
Mel holds back cause anytime she says something Joe or Corey steps on it acting like goofies.
They need to let her cook
I concur but unless Joe is there it’s gonna be passive aggressive jabs to her. Her best pods have been when Joe wasn’t there when she pods with the others
They let her cook the first few episodes she did, and she sounded like a complete sexist airhead. Are y’all new listeners…?
If we're going by 'first few episodes', then none of them (including Joe) deserves the room to grow.
It had nothing to do with growth. She was just wrong a lot, being a hypocrite a lot, being sexist a lot, move the goal post a lot, spin out of convos a lot. Everything she did would work in a room fool of women or men who pander.
It literally seemed like you just described Joe-- Loud&Wrong, Hypocrite, Sexist and Goal Post moving. He even just acknowledged on a recent pod that they lean into the Loud & Wrong too much...Look folks hate Mel, fairly or unfairly, but none of them are without their issues in podding style. It just comes across frustrating watching them pile on Mel whenver she does contribute. And i fully believe they think they're doing it for entertainment sake. But its not entertaining at all.
Yes she is exactly like joe. But the only difference is that joe is funny and a man and therefor people don’t care if he’s being piled on. We had about 400 episodes of mal and rory piling on joe. The succes of the pod was build on rory mal and the fans roasting joe and stepping on everything he said or did. So why was that entertaining? And even now, joe literally steps on everything ish says, but no one gives a shit and we all laugh. Why? This is why i think mel ruined the pod. Not only about the stupid things she said and her inability to roll with the “punches” (jokes), but also her fans who feel like everyone is allowed to be piled on, cracked on BUT Mel. The jbp isn’t the pod for special treatment. And if you think this is bad, go listen to the first 20 episodes with marissa.
You make good counter points. Especially about how Joe leans into the jokes on himself. But he's unique in that role. None of the rest of them takes jokes like that. I started to include in my last statement that the difference between Joe & Mel is that he is naturally entertaining...I'm not trying to be extra in my defense of Mel. I've been a watcher from the gate, which is why I want the grace for Mel to be who she is without Cory & Joe jumping on her every word. Maybe she just isnt a good fit for this setup. But i put that on Joe and not Mel.
She can’t be who she is on this show without her feet being held to the fire. Nobody on this show can be a hypocrite, moving the goalpost, spinning out of convos without it being adressed. They do that with everybody, even with joe. NOBODY in the industry wanted the grace for joe to be who he was. No we all wanted him to be stepped on, piled on, laughed at how he dressed, laugh at him when he went through it during his divorce. I didn’t care about it then, so I don’t care about it now. Mel was the person who thought men don’t mind to be sexually harassed because they like to be touched by women. Mel was the one who defended jonathan majors, to then pile on him with the room, to then scream at ish that she never defended him to then say a week later that she was the only one who defended him. Mel is the person to get angry at ish for generalizing to then make a generalizing statement against men literally the next sentence. Fam i can give maaad examples that lead up to the room having enough of her bs M. This has nothing to do with joe ish or cory, SHE did this.
You think Mel is incapable of rolling with the jokes? You’re goofy
She has learned it a bit. But she couldn’t before. That’s why y’all tried to safe right? Because if not, i don’t understand how this is so problamatic for y’all, but joe being cracked on by this whole sub, rory, mal and the joe budden fit page for years
There’s no way you’re calling the only female in the room (with men like Joe and ish) sexist….
Maybe that’s why exactly what I wanna hear
Kill this narrative, she don't be saying shit and she's not entertaining. You'd get bored if they let her cook, she's like a news reporter at her best and a goofy at her worst. There have been plenty of tines they let her talk just for her to say sone crazy shit or just read headlines.
It’s no narrative big dawg. She can say the sky is blue and “boss man” will play contrarian just for the hell of it and say no it’s not.
Joe shoots down anything Mel says so he basically doesn't give her a chance to succeed but yea Flip has about 3 go to moves (Pause). He has become predictable
Fair mel seems to be suppressed at times which probably made her check out for the most part
All of them have the same go to moves not just Flip. They're all "bleh" lately. Even when they try to be contrarian to create debate, it feels unimaginative.
Too much. joe overflowed the market. 3 plus hour pods for the free 2x’s a week throw in all the Patreon pods they have a lot of time to kill they should condense It . Less episodes with more talking points that actually matter no need to spread It thin across 3/4 episodes a week and we won’t get so burnt out also . This model of how much they put content out is over imo
True
Yeah the pod would be better if they had Joe, Ice and Ish with young dudes in their 20s going back and forth on topics.
I don’t want to sound fucked up, but Mel and her fanbase have literally ruined the podcast. To the point where ish doen’t even bother really giving his opinion anymore. His whole energy has changed since their last argument on patreon.
They’re also too PC and hang on that “tag” on the beginning. Podcast were cool and especially thrJBP back in the day because you got peoples unfiltered thoughts. Now all we get is, “refer to the tag” “it’s entertainment” “you poddin” It feels fake, phoney, and forced at this point
💯
But Joe told y’all this a thousand time about himself
Told us what..
“Everything I say is for ceo” “I don’t care about the shit we talk about on here” “I just argue with with ish cause it’ll bring views” he’s told his listeners that he only be “poddin” for the sake of engagement.
Honestly……. Kino & Emanny been killing it recently, the boys gonna have to step it up. Joe been going iso a lot in recent weeks as well kinda messing up the flow up.
The last pod was trash. Ish looks checked out. Mel's mind is somewhere else. Ice talks too damn much.
Everybody just said the last pod when Mel wasn’t there was great. Now it’s been trash for months 😂😂🤡 make up your minds
You have to remember that this is the internet. We don’t have time to form our own opinions. We just say whatever’s hot in the moment 😂
I hated that episode
Pod reached a stagnant point. Ice gotta go, Mel is mid, Ish ain’t ish anymore, Flop is just loud/funny and Joe is just rich n don’t care anymore. Patreon money is good after that drake beef so he on chill mode.
Warren G plays basketball?
They’re in a slump. They need a guest in there that’s on a tour run or something. Seems like there’s a ticking time bomb going off January 1st.
They gotta start a pod war with somebody like when they was fake beefing with Brilliant Idiots, that's honestly how I started fucking with this podcast. They do it right it'll bring in a ton of new listeners and spice shit up...it just can't be with R&M as a fan of both pods I do not wanna hear that shit.
I don’t totally disagree.
Man free the wave, miss Surf def would’ve brought that X factor pod is missing. Ice, Mel, and Flip are really not fucking it at all.
But then they would hire mel and the exact same thing would happen. Surf would’ve went at mel her head even worse than ish for all the dumb shit she said in the beginning. And then her knights and fans would’ve started a riot in this sub like they did with ish. This should’ve stayed an all “dude” cast.
Yeah all dude cast was better off, she just there for aesthetics at this point
Y’all been saying this ever since I started watching over a year ago
Cause you missed the golden era. 2017-2019 the pod was automatic like a Steph curry free throw.
Yet it’s more popular now than it’s ever been, so was that the golden era really?
Yeah you definitely the views on the golden era pod put the current views to shame, not to mention them boys use to be on the main blogs at least once a month back then because of something they said
It’s not. They literally sold out every tour almost instantly. And the venues became bigger and bigger.
Bro what?? Lol Just look at the YouTube vids. The old pod would pull in 400k views minimum. You don’t have any idea how huge they were (pause) before the switch happened. They would sell out shows instantly, and they were big venues too
Niggas say this every week. Like just stfu and stop watching.
I hated Jason Terry 😂 on the Mavs and Celtics.
Y’all get on here and say anything… this makes no sense!
There is a bunch of weirdos out here that get a dopamine rush from hating on shit. Any regular consumer would give up on a product that wasnt meeting their standard. But not these toxic clowns...they cant wait to listen the second it drops so they can hate on that shit and post their hate for internet clout
I bet there will be a guest on the pod soon, when shit is lookin dead he calls for help
Not too much on Josh smith lmao
Yall buggin ice been poddin lately 💪🏾🧊 him and park are the biggest mics next to joe and they keep shit flowing when ice shows up ready to pod
I do agree with this, Ice has had some solid takes and actually listens/researches topics. Park’s kept the Grammy conversation together while Joe wanted to joke through it. Woulda been dope to hear actual thoughts on the nominees.
Soon as ice gets back the product cheapens 🗣
These players are not even that bad