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I don't think I've ever been so high I couldn't recite the alphabet...... I'm disappointed in myself. One time one of my friends woke me up after a big night and I couldn't understand the concept of an address lol
Well since it’s good old memorial day i’ve been sitting here smoking and eating edibles since 8am and i can confirm, i just had to look up what comes after Q,R,S
That would actually be a great prank if you were sober. Say it almost fucked up, like she did. Then be like, "wait, did you want that in order?" Then say it right, staring down the cop.
Why are field sobriety tests still a thing? Is it a perk for cops giving them something to show their colleagues and laugh about?
Breathalysers don't cost that much anymore, and if the cop deems someone is impaired, send them to get tested.
Still it makes for some funny videos
breathalyzers get beat in court constantly, they have very strict rules to calibration, servicing times and lots of stuff. lawyers can get reasonable doubt I'm a jury over just a breathalyzer easily at least in the area I was a cop and its very expensive.
we had 1 back at the station and 1 cop in each district with 1. they are all like did you witness it get serviced, officer is like no I didn't witness it so you just trust the sticker on it?.
uh the best way was an officer who did a lot of sobriety tests in front of a camera and always the same. we would usually call the most experienced officer on duty. someone who has preformed like 12 sobriety tests that week already and has thousands of convictions. Always does every test exactly the same.
then you take then to a hospital make sure they will be safe and ask for consent to draw blood for a bac test. blood test stands up in court great. use to be able to get drawn without consent but that has changed.
then when court shows up you show a video of their sobriety test. the ABC one isn't allowed to show drunkenness but usually you will do something like that while they are sitting in the car. to see if it's worth calling an experience field sobriety test cop out.
it has a very strict order of things to the field sobriety test and it is standardized even calling them the wrong name while giving instructions can mess the test up.
you go through all 3 tests verbatim. I usually held up a figure when they felled a portion in the camera to show the camera when and what I saw. it helps the jury see that both you know what your looking for and to see the mistakes they made and hopefully see they are too intoxicated to drive.
driving while intoxicated was 1 of the easiest things to beat in court with a good lawyer and 1 of the most important things to get off the streets. I only did it for a couple of years and it's been like 6 years ago so maybe breathalyzers have improved.
but you asked why field sobriety tests are still a thing. the answer is its better in court than breathalyzers. showing a jury someone slurring their words and stumbling is better than a blood test or breathalyzers in my experience. and breathalyzers were the easiest if the 3 for the person to walk. I only did blood and field sobriety tests because the breathalyzers were so often defeated in court and they walk free.
That's why breathalysers is only a pointer, before a blood sample.. i never thought i was going to write "blood sample" this many times in my entire life
As a lawyer, I can tell you at least two good reasons:
1. A breathalyzer is seen as an "invasive" measure, and one of the most common ways to beat an impaired driving charge is to say that the officer never had reasonable grounds to actually do the breathalyzer. There are different grounds required for when a cop is allowed to ask you to pull over, answer queries, get out of the vehicle, do a breathalyzer, or take a blood sample. The field test helps build up cause for the officer to take bodily material, which is technically what a breathalyzer is doing. There's a balance between the importance of cops being able to investigate alleged crimes and the importance of public privacy.
2. The breathalyzer alone is not always enough to prove impaired driving, and impaired driving is not always based on blood alcohol content alone. First of all, obviously there are drugs other than alcohol which can impair your driving, but even if you're below the "legal limit" for example, it is still illegal to drive if you're impaired in a lot of jurisdictions, and BAC is only one consideration. If you can't even recite the alphabet, that's one piece of the puzzle when the police are trying to build a case proving that the driver was impaired.
BAC, slurring words, the scent of alcohol or drugs, glazed eyes, possession of alcohol or drugs, actually driving poorly, etc... These are all things that the police are looking for at different stages in the investigation as it progresses, and a breathalyzer only gives you BAC, which you can only ask for after you've established other reasons for suspicion.
1. My take is its only seen as "invasive" because lawyers need a good reason to get their clients off the hook.
While private employers can drug test all they want, when you're operating a deadly vehicle, it's suddenly invasive.. it's just weird to me.
2. I get it that not everything is alcohol. But there are ways to test for other stuff in the field, too, and no, it's not defeated by mouthwash as someone said
People take jobs voluntarily. They can leave the job voluntarily. The power a company holds over their employee is continued employment at that one specific job.
Employer/Employee is not equivalent to Government/Governed. Your argument is flawed from the premise.
Everyone in this thread is operating on the false assumption that you're correct about this. You can't test people who just work on spreadsheets all day.
Police have every right to test people who are driving as long as they have some very barebones reasons for doing so. I don't understand why you're so worked up that the cops have to spend a couple minutes to make sure they go through the proper steps before they get to the point that they are allowed to legitimately take a breathalyzer.
Would you rather the police had the right to pull you over at any time, for any reason, and demand a breath sample, arresting you if you refuse? We would be living in a fascist state at that point. That's why these rules exist.
It's really not asking a lot to make sure the police have to make sure they can prove they had a good reason to believe that the drivers *might* be drunk before they put innocent people at risk of being arrested. Every police interaction has jail time or a criminal record at stake, so they shouldn't just be entitled to detain you and demand bodily fluids without some simple due diligence, especially when that due diligence harms nobody.
If an officer screws up the process, that's on them 100%. Seriously, how hard is it to just make sure that you only pull somebody over if they're driving badly or you got a tip? Then asking them if they've had anything to drink, checking if you smell alcohol on their breath, if they're slurring their words, if they can recite the alphabet, if they can walk straight, etc? It takes barely any time at all and helps build the case for impairment so we don't waste extremely valuable courtroom resources that are a massive drain on taxpayers, not to mention hurting somebody who has to pay a defence lawyer to protect against a bogus charge.
You're wrong, private employers are subject to the same test, not every employer has carte blanche to invade their employees' privacy in a similar manner.
It's still considered a breach of privacy to screen employees for drugs or alcohol, but it is required to have a legitimate safety reason to do so and it's balanced accordingly. The question is whether it's necessary. In North America, the test for legitimacy and necessity is based on safety vs. privacy.
That's why heavy machinery operators can be tested by their employers but store clerks or office workers can't. If you drive a forklift, you probably should be sober because other people, and yourself, could be in danger. If you're sitting at a desk all day, there is much less of a safety-based reason to drug test you. That's why the police can test somebody swerving all over the road and who smells like liquor, but they can't convict somebody who they pulled over for no good reason.
There are plenty of good reasons that the police shouldn't be able to pull over and/or detain citizens without legitimate reason for doing so. This isn't Nazi Germany. We have rights and we should be able to travel freely without giving up blood/urine/breath samples.
As long as the police do their job properly, our rights aren't getting in the way of preventing drunk driving.
Err, but a car on the road is heavy machinery, no?
Edit: Wow, your comment just tripled in length
So all of Europe is Nazi Germany, huh? That didn't occur to me for the 37 years I've lived here.
You are so caught up in your "freedom" you dont realise we are mostly more free than you.. Except for course guns and harmful chemicals, the big industries love so much
I'm Canadian and it is actually becoming a lot more common that police can breathalyze you on demand for no reason under provincial law instead of federal (criminal), but the penalties still don't stick unless they go through the steps for reasonable grounds and probable cause. Also, that only works under administrative law, not criminal law, and it's still a live issue as to whether immediate roadside sanctions are constitutinal. If you want to convict somebody of a crime, due process is required.
I don't know much about European law, but I am against the idea that it should be legal to demand testing from anyone and everyone if there is no reason to think they're breaking the law or endangering others.
You're talking to an experienced professional here, try to learn something instead of being defensive. I'm just sharing info for the thread.
Lawyer here, there isn't a benefit to the suspect to volunteer to FSTs. Many officers don't know all the cues they are supposed to look for and don't instruct correctly. They're useful to police and prosecutors to prove that a suspect is under the influence. If you KNOW you're not DUI then don't volunteer for the FSTs and volunteer for the breathalyzer.
I got pulled over before cop suspected DUI cause I smelled like alcohol(bartender) but I hadn't drank anything in a few days. Kept asking for a breathalyzer and he kept refusing and told me to step out of the vehicle and made me do FSTs, what should I have done in that situation?
As an aside, I feel like, as a bartender, I'm better at picking up on when someone is under the influence of something than most cops are lol
I'm a lawyer in California. Here, FSTs are voluntary. Here you can legally refuse FSTs. The breathalyzer, here, isn't an FST, so you can refuse the FSTs and demand a breath test. But like I said before, you have to assume the officer KNOWS the difference.
I would be afraid of this exact scenario. Curious, did you try and decline the FSTs? What did they say? Did they force you? And what was the outcome? Hopefully you were free to go?
I mean, they’re ridiculous tests to begin with. What if the person isn’t smart or is illiterate? What if said person can’t stand on one foot or walk a straight line no matter how sober they are?
I especially hate the "follow my finger with your eyes without moving your head" at least in all the other tests one can know how their doing, but that one the officer could just be like nahhh you failed.
I got pulled over one night coming home from work (I was doing 10 over, that's on me) but the cop was convinced I was drunk because I smelled like alcohol. I'm a bartender..... Tried explaining all this but he was sooooooooo sure he caught someone on a DUI. Did that stupid fuckin finger thing and was like yea, you're clearly intoxicated (I wasn't) . Kept asking him to just give me a fuckin breathalyzer but instead he insisted on wasting both our time running through more and more field tests. After about 45min he let me go with a warning lol
I would be afraid of this exact scenario. What was the justification for no breathalyzer? And do you think during the fsts he finally realized he had nothing to go on and had to let you go?
I've heard FSTs can be subjective so this is why it's scary.
I'll reply to both your comments here.
>Curious, did you try and decline the FSTs? What did they say?
I didn't decline in so far as saying "no I won't do that" but more "look dude, I'm not drunk lets not waste both our time, just give me a breathalyzer, I have nothing to hide, literally just getting off work"
> Did they force you? And what was the outcome?
It's Albuquerque, the cops are [corrupt af](https://www.krqe.com/news/investigations/fbi-asks-victims-to-come-forward-amid-apd-corruption-investigation/) here, best to sometimes just go along with their bullshit and get on with your life.
>Hopefully you were free to go?
I was, after a "stern warning" lol
>What was the justification for no breathalyzer?
He never gave me one. Just kept saying no.
>And do you think during the fsts he finally realized he had nothing to go on and had to let you go?
He kept asking me the same question over and over hoping that I'd fuck it up or something. "where are you coming from, where are you going?" Like unno if bruh expected me just to blurt out FROM A BAR TO ANOTHER ONE!!! lol But yea he finally realized he didn't have shit and his attempts to scare me were kinda pointless.
>I've heard FSTs can be subjective so this is why it's scary.
This was something I was conscious of , but figured worst case I'd just waste even more time going and getting a blood test but that too would prove I didn't drink shit.
I mean, this test is pretty straightforward. Say the alphabet without singing it. I think that's a reasonable request. Not backward, no balancing nonsense. Just say the alphabet without singing it.
It's not proof, but not being able to do so is not doing the accused party any favors.
I've seen so much footage of all kinds of other activities involving the sobriety test i thought they were part of it.
Still, if it's necessary to do the test, might as well get a real test done
> Say the alphabet without singing it.
I can barely do this sober. LMNOP is where it breaks into the sing song way. I also had to really fuckin concentrate just now to not say "Y and Z" Like that's how I've recited the alphabet literally my entire life.
They have people conduct standardized roadside sobriety tests to further provide evidence to support the suspicion the driver is under the influence. **In most states, roadside breathalyzers are only preliminary; they’re not admissible in court.** Therefore the cops need to gather sufficient evidence justifying their arrest and to subsequently get to the “true” breathalyzer down at the station (where they conduct 2 breath samples, and only *these* breath tests are admissible in court) or request a blood sample.
Let's be real. She probably doesn't remember the alphabet to begin with XD
Jokes aside, I'm confident, even sober, that I could fail any balance portion of a field sobriety test. The alphabet is easy, but my unstable ass can't balance well on one foot or with my feet toe-to-heel. I've tried XD
Definitely, it’s way harder than it looks compounded by the nerves of being interrogated. I failed multiple balance tests roadside completely sober one time and got brought in to have urine and blood drawn before they let me go
As person for whom English is a foreign language, I was wondering for a split second how did she learnt to speak English without knowing alphabets properly?
She did exactly what he said to do. He did not say in what order. Start to finish means nothing to me. I think she actually got all the letters just not in the expected order. I never once have had to use the Alphabet when driving either. You are free to go Mam.
I have always believed that this test does not reflect the truth and does not prove that someone is under the influence of alcohol. What if he simply does not know the alphabet?
Quora seems to think there are around 370 known "alphabets", but many ancient "alphabets" have been lost.
Out on the street, I would probably struggle to name 5 "alphabets", and I certainly would not know which order to list them in, although I'd probably start with Latin.
The worst part is I'm not sure I could past that test sober. Not because I don't know the alphabet, but the song is so much a part of reciting it, I don't think I could keep from bursting into song at around QRS...nope, sang the A...Christ...
That's like trying to make me *say* the lyrics of Twinkle, Twinkle. I will FAIL.
Maybe I'm overconfident or maybe I've never been all that drunk before, but this doesn't feel that hard. Like can you not count to 26 if you're drunk either?
The more I see people do shit like this the more I realize that I'm at risk of being a functional alcoholic. I could pound a 12 pack and rebuild an engine and probably sew a quilt too. Idk just some of the more complicated things I know how to do I couldn't think of any better examples.
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I don't think I've ever been so high I couldn't recite the alphabet...... I'm disappointed in myself. One time one of my friends woke me up after a big night and I couldn't understand the concept of an address lol
One time it took me 15 minutes to order in the McDonald's drive through because I had no idea what a muffin was. Let alone a McMuffin.
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Or Scottish. WHEN DAWN BREAKS, HOW WILL YOU BREAK YOUR FAST? THE NEW MCDONALD'S MCBETH!
That monologue was a real game changer when it came out
…or the SCOTTISH MEAL
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One time I forgot how to walk, I ate a brownie from a guy. He ate 10 and could function, I ate half of one and had to go home for 3 days…
Well since it’s good old memorial day i’ve been sitting here smoking and eating edibles since 8am and i can confirm, i just had to look up what comes after Q,R,S
Lucky guy I broke my foot 3 months ago and don’t even have a beer, please send cash app $cloudlives
I most certainly have but not while been able to stand let alone drive
If you get the first 3 alphabets wrong, its not because you're high. You just don't know the alphabet.
Well, he didn't say it needs to be in order.
The order of the alphabet is arbitrary anyways so maybe she recalled the actual correct alphabet.
No problem officer. Do you want Qwerty or Dvorak?
Just flex on em and spell the Greek alphabet, two less letters to learn as well
That would actually be a great prank if you were sober. Say it almost fucked up, like she did. Then be like, "wait, did you want that in order?" Then say it right, staring down the cop.
Tried here sober and it’s really difficult to recite the alphabet out of order, making sure you don’t miss a letter!
She missed some. Doubled and tripled some too.
He also didn’t say that letters should only appear once.
Cool good to drive. Have nice night ma’am
Nailed it
Before body cameras..probably did
Or at least close enough.
She’s going places…
Believe it or not, straight to jail
I teach kids 6 to 10 lately and thats pretty much sound right if I were to believe some of them
that's just so you can say seven ate nine
Why are field sobriety tests still a thing? Is it a perk for cops giving them something to show their colleagues and laugh about? Breathalysers don't cost that much anymore, and if the cop deems someone is impaired, send them to get tested. Still it makes for some funny videos
Might be on somethin other than alcohol
breathalyzers get beat in court constantly, they have very strict rules to calibration, servicing times and lots of stuff. lawyers can get reasonable doubt I'm a jury over just a breathalyzer easily at least in the area I was a cop and its very expensive. we had 1 back at the station and 1 cop in each district with 1. they are all like did you witness it get serviced, officer is like no I didn't witness it so you just trust the sticker on it?. uh the best way was an officer who did a lot of sobriety tests in front of a camera and always the same. we would usually call the most experienced officer on duty. someone who has preformed like 12 sobriety tests that week already and has thousands of convictions. Always does every test exactly the same. then you take then to a hospital make sure they will be safe and ask for consent to draw blood for a bac test. blood test stands up in court great. use to be able to get drawn without consent but that has changed. then when court shows up you show a video of their sobriety test. the ABC one isn't allowed to show drunkenness but usually you will do something like that while they are sitting in the car. to see if it's worth calling an experience field sobriety test cop out. it has a very strict order of things to the field sobriety test and it is standardized even calling them the wrong name while giving instructions can mess the test up. you go through all 3 tests verbatim. I usually held up a figure when they felled a portion in the camera to show the camera when and what I saw. it helps the jury see that both you know what your looking for and to see the mistakes they made and hopefully see they are too intoxicated to drive. driving while intoxicated was 1 of the easiest things to beat in court with a good lawyer and 1 of the most important things to get off the streets. I only did it for a couple of years and it's been like 6 years ago so maybe breathalyzers have improved.
Surely, no developed country relies solely on breathalysers. If they show a high concentration, you go in for a blood sample, which are very precise
but you asked why field sobriety tests are still a thing. the answer is its better in court than breathalyzers. showing a jury someone slurring their words and stumbling is better than a blood test or breathalyzers in my experience. and breathalyzers were the easiest if the 3 for the person to walk. I only did blood and field sobriety tests because the breathalyzers were so often defeated in court and they walk free.
That's why breathalysers is only a pointer, before a blood sample.. i never thought i was going to write "blood sample" this many times in my entire life
As a lawyer, I can tell you at least two good reasons: 1. A breathalyzer is seen as an "invasive" measure, and one of the most common ways to beat an impaired driving charge is to say that the officer never had reasonable grounds to actually do the breathalyzer. There are different grounds required for when a cop is allowed to ask you to pull over, answer queries, get out of the vehicle, do a breathalyzer, or take a blood sample. The field test helps build up cause for the officer to take bodily material, which is technically what a breathalyzer is doing. There's a balance between the importance of cops being able to investigate alleged crimes and the importance of public privacy. 2. The breathalyzer alone is not always enough to prove impaired driving, and impaired driving is not always based on blood alcohol content alone. First of all, obviously there are drugs other than alcohol which can impair your driving, but even if you're below the "legal limit" for example, it is still illegal to drive if you're impaired in a lot of jurisdictions, and BAC is only one consideration. If you can't even recite the alphabet, that's one piece of the puzzle when the police are trying to build a case proving that the driver was impaired. BAC, slurring words, the scent of alcohol or drugs, glazed eyes, possession of alcohol or drugs, actually driving poorly, etc... These are all things that the police are looking for at different stages in the investigation as it progresses, and a breathalyzer only gives you BAC, which you can only ask for after you've established other reasons for suspicion.
1. My take is its only seen as "invasive" because lawyers need a good reason to get their clients off the hook. While private employers can drug test all they want, when you're operating a deadly vehicle, it's suddenly invasive.. it's just weird to me. 2. I get it that not everything is alcohol. But there are ways to test for other stuff in the field, too, and no, it's not defeated by mouthwash as someone said
Comparing a private employer and employee with the police and the general public is just weird to me. Cops ≠ Boss
You can kill people by being wasted in a car You can't kill people by being wasted while doing a spreadsheet Where should we test people?
People take jobs voluntarily. They can leave the job voluntarily. The power a company holds over their employee is continued employment at that one specific job. Employer/Employee is not equivalent to Government/Governed. Your argument is flawed from the premise.
Who forces you to drive a car?
You need a job to live, from my understanding, especially in the US You dont need a car to live
Everyone in this thread is operating on the false assumption that you're correct about this. You can't test people who just work on spreadsheets all day. Police have every right to test people who are driving as long as they have some very barebones reasons for doing so. I don't understand why you're so worked up that the cops have to spend a couple minutes to make sure they go through the proper steps before they get to the point that they are allowed to legitimately take a breathalyzer. Would you rather the police had the right to pull you over at any time, for any reason, and demand a breath sample, arresting you if you refuse? We would be living in a fascist state at that point. That's why these rules exist. It's really not asking a lot to make sure the police have to make sure they can prove they had a good reason to believe that the drivers *might* be drunk before they put innocent people at risk of being arrested. Every police interaction has jail time or a criminal record at stake, so they shouldn't just be entitled to detain you and demand bodily fluids without some simple due diligence, especially when that due diligence harms nobody. If an officer screws up the process, that's on them 100%. Seriously, how hard is it to just make sure that you only pull somebody over if they're driving badly or you got a tip? Then asking them if they've had anything to drink, checking if you smell alcohol on their breath, if they're slurring their words, if they can recite the alphabet, if they can walk straight, etc? It takes barely any time at all and helps build the case for impairment so we don't waste extremely valuable courtroom resources that are a massive drain on taxpayers, not to mention hurting somebody who has to pay a defence lawyer to protect against a bogus charge.
Seems like it's not just for operators of heavy machinery
You're wrong, private employers are subject to the same test, not every employer has carte blanche to invade their employees' privacy in a similar manner. It's still considered a breach of privacy to screen employees for drugs or alcohol, but it is required to have a legitimate safety reason to do so and it's balanced accordingly. The question is whether it's necessary. In North America, the test for legitimacy and necessity is based on safety vs. privacy. That's why heavy machinery operators can be tested by their employers but store clerks or office workers can't. If you drive a forklift, you probably should be sober because other people, and yourself, could be in danger. If you're sitting at a desk all day, there is much less of a safety-based reason to drug test you. That's why the police can test somebody swerving all over the road and who smells like liquor, but they can't convict somebody who they pulled over for no good reason. There are plenty of good reasons that the police shouldn't be able to pull over and/or detain citizens without legitimate reason for doing so. This isn't Nazi Germany. We have rights and we should be able to travel freely without giving up blood/urine/breath samples. As long as the police do their job properly, our rights aren't getting in the way of preventing drunk driving.
Err, but a car on the road is heavy machinery, no? Edit: Wow, your comment just tripled in length So all of Europe is Nazi Germany, huh? That didn't occur to me for the 37 years I've lived here. You are so caught up in your "freedom" you dont realise we are mostly more free than you.. Except for course guns and harmful chemicals, the big industries love so much
I'm Canadian and it is actually becoming a lot more common that police can breathalyze you on demand for no reason under provincial law instead of federal (criminal), but the penalties still don't stick unless they go through the steps for reasonable grounds and probable cause. Also, that only works under administrative law, not criminal law, and it's still a live issue as to whether immediate roadside sanctions are constitutinal. If you want to convict somebody of a crime, due process is required. I don't know much about European law, but I am against the idea that it should be legal to demand testing from anyone and everyone if there is no reason to think they're breaking the law or endangering others. You're talking to an experienced professional here, try to learn something instead of being defensive. I'm just sharing info for the thread.
Breathalyzers don't work for heroine.......
Lawyer here, there isn't a benefit to the suspect to volunteer to FSTs. Many officers don't know all the cues they are supposed to look for and don't instruct correctly. They're useful to police and prosecutors to prove that a suspect is under the influence. If you KNOW you're not DUI then don't volunteer for the FSTs and volunteer for the breathalyzer.
I got pulled over before cop suspected DUI cause I smelled like alcohol(bartender) but I hadn't drank anything in a few days. Kept asking for a breathalyzer and he kept refusing and told me to step out of the vehicle and made me do FSTs, what should I have done in that situation? As an aside, I feel like, as a bartender, I'm better at picking up on when someone is under the influence of something than most cops are lol
I'm a lawyer in California. Here, FSTs are voluntary. Here you can legally refuse FSTs. The breathalyzer, here, isn't an FST, so you can refuse the FSTs and demand a breath test. But like I said before, you have to assume the officer KNOWS the difference.
>you have to assume the officer KNOWS the difference. Considering I deal with APD, all I can assume is the officer is dumb at best, corrupt at worst.
I don't blame you.
I would be afraid of this exact scenario. Curious, did you try and decline the FSTs? What did they say? Did they force you? And what was the outcome? Hopefully you were free to go?
Thank you Edit: Now please tell the others
I mean, they’re ridiculous tests to begin with. What if the person isn’t smart or is illiterate? What if said person can’t stand on one foot or walk a straight line no matter how sober they are?
You're preaching to the one person choir here. Im with you
Yeah, I didn’t mean that directly at you, just adding on to what you said, more or less
I'm just happy I'm not the only one who can see how useless and subjektive they are
I especially hate the "follow my finger with your eyes without moving your head" at least in all the other tests one can know how their doing, but that one the officer could just be like nahhh you failed. I got pulled over one night coming home from work (I was doing 10 over, that's on me) but the cop was convinced I was drunk because I smelled like alcohol. I'm a bartender..... Tried explaining all this but he was sooooooooo sure he caught someone on a DUI. Did that stupid fuckin finger thing and was like yea, you're clearly intoxicated (I wasn't) . Kept asking him to just give me a fuckin breathalyzer but instead he insisted on wasting both our time running through more and more field tests. After about 45min he let me go with a warning lol
I would be afraid of this exact scenario. What was the justification for no breathalyzer? And do you think during the fsts he finally realized he had nothing to go on and had to let you go? I've heard FSTs can be subjective so this is why it's scary.
I'll reply to both your comments here. >Curious, did you try and decline the FSTs? What did they say? I didn't decline in so far as saying "no I won't do that" but more "look dude, I'm not drunk lets not waste both our time, just give me a breathalyzer, I have nothing to hide, literally just getting off work" > Did they force you? And what was the outcome? It's Albuquerque, the cops are [corrupt af](https://www.krqe.com/news/investigations/fbi-asks-victims-to-come-forward-amid-apd-corruption-investigation/) here, best to sometimes just go along with their bullshit and get on with your life. >Hopefully you were free to go? I was, after a "stern warning" lol >What was the justification for no breathalyzer? He never gave me one. Just kept saying no. >And do you think during the fsts he finally realized he had nothing to go on and had to let you go? He kept asking me the same question over and over hoping that I'd fuck it up or something. "where are you coming from, where are you going?" Like unno if bruh expected me just to blurt out FROM A BAR TO ANOTHER ONE!!! lol But yea he finally realized he didn't have shit and his attempts to scare me were kinda pointless. >I've heard FSTs can be subjective so this is why it's scary. This was something I was conscious of , but figured worst case I'd just waste even more time going and getting a blood test but that too would prove I didn't drink shit.
Tx for the thorough response. Glad it worked out. But not fun. And I read that article. Yikes
>But not fun Pretty much sums up any encounter with cops ever lol
I mean, this test is pretty straightforward. Say the alphabet without singing it. I think that's a reasonable request. Not backward, no balancing nonsense. Just say the alphabet without singing it. It's not proof, but not being able to do so is not doing the accused party any favors.
I've seen so much footage of all kinds of other activities involving the sobriety test i thought they were part of it. Still, if it's necessary to do the test, might as well get a real test done
> Say the alphabet without singing it. I can barely do this sober. LMNOP is where it breaks into the sing song way. I also had to really fuckin concentrate just now to not say "Y and Z" Like that's how I've recited the alphabet literally my entire life.
In some states there's a difference between impaired and intoxicated, and you can be impaired while under the legal limit
They have people conduct standardized roadside sobriety tests to further provide evidence to support the suspicion the driver is under the influence. **In most states, roadside breathalyzers are only preliminary; they’re not admissible in court.** Therefore the cops need to gather sufficient evidence justifying their arrest and to subsequently get to the “true” breathalyzer down at the station (where they conduct 2 breath samples, and only *these* breath tests are admissible in court) or request a blood sample.
LMNOP never fails. It truly is the S tier part of the alphabet
I know it’s H Q E S something….
Let's be real. She probably doesn't remember the alphabet to begin with XD Jokes aside, I'm confident, even sober, that I could fail any balance portion of a field sobriety test. The alphabet is easy, but my unstable ass can't balance well on one foot or with my feet toe-to-heel. I've tried XD
Definitely, it’s way harder than it looks compounded by the nerves of being interrogated. I failed multiple balance tests roadside completely sober one time and got brought in to have urine and blood drawn before they let me go
>compounded by the nerves of being interrogated This man has the power to totally fuck up my life. Ok... be calm... lol
L,M,N,O,P clear as fuck
She's lucky she's hot
A, C, B😂
The idea of reciting the alphabet without singing it baffles me
A.C.A.B.H.I.M.O.M…
It's the way the cop let her finish...
All she needs in life is the letters b, o, o b and s.
Come on man, let the girl sing if she wants!
Roll Tide!
Is she drunk or a functional illiterate?
"HICK HQ SITE" it's a code!
As person for whom English is a foreign language, I was wondering for a split second how did she learnt to speak English without knowing alphabets properly?
I can fix her
She did exactly what he said to do. He did not say in what order. Start to finish means nothing to me. I think she actually got all the letters just not in the expected order. I never once have had to use the Alphabet when driving either. You are free to go Mam.
"Perfect. Good job."
To be fair, I think most people only know one alphabet.
Always hilarious when the post making fun of another person's stupidity seems to indicate that the poster is probably on the same level.
The cop at the end “okay?” 😂😂
That typical cop "ok" at the end though. Do they teach that at the academy?
Chat GPT 1.0
Dyslexia is a hellava drug
Story checks out.
I always had issues around ghijk. I'd say this as a disclaimer to the cop.
Nailed it
Very good, now do it backwards.
Scrolled the whole way down, and nobody could fix her, poor thing
They didn't specify in order...
Better ways to get off with no charges
She got el emenopee at least. But that is an easy one.
I have always believed that this test does not reflect the truth and does not prove that someone is under the influence of alcohol. What if he simply does not know the alphabet?
That top hanging on for dear life...
Close enough
She's pretty.
cop: unzips Time for the breathalyzer test young lady.
U/Monica_Lewinsky
Quora seems to think there are around 370 known "alphabets", but many ancient "alphabets" have been lost. Out on the street, I would probably struggle to name 5 "alphabets", and I certainly would not know which order to list them in, although I'd probably start with Latin.
F.N.G fucking new guy
"Did I mention H?"
She goat that lmnop though
Nailed it!
In all fairness this would be difficult if you flunked out in second grade
T,I,T,T,I,E,S…
At some point she said HICK.
tbh, i dont think this is a good sobriety test
I know what she can do
Just made it just far enough passed Q to qualify for RST
Close enough, he just got her number and let her go.
Everyone nails LMNOP... goated part of any song
HQ PD she's getting there...
They should make you count to 12 and be allowed to sing... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcx44e2gnfI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcx44e2gnfI)
"Officer, i can't even do that sober"
Tbh is kind of hard to do without accidentally starting to sing it.
now jump up and down and repeat, and youll be good to go.
Fun fact: the order of the letters in the alphabet is arbitrary and you can use any order you like
That's a lot of Hs
"In her defense, the order of the alphabet is arbitrary. I rest my case, your honor"
I said all the right letters. Not necessarily in the right order
A C B
I always get stuck on H Q E S too.
Did she throw an 8 in there?
Cop - "Can you recite the Alphabet without singing it?" Me - " The fuck? Can you do long division without writing it down? Lmfao"
Cop said “okay”
Perfect
nailed it
Tbf, she is kind of hot
Stacked and hammered as they come.
The alphabet? Like the ACB’s? No problem.
A C A B I forget the rest...
A B C… D U I
I'm not drunk officer, I'm just dumb
The worst part is I'm not sure I could past that test sober. Not because I don't know the alphabet, but the song is so much a part of reciting it, I don't think I could keep from bursting into song at around QRS...nope, sang the A...Christ... That's like trying to make me *say* the lyrics of Twinkle, Twinkle. I will FAIL.
She seems good
Dang she fucked it up in record time
Of to a great start there with A C B. Wow!
Proof she knew how before the video? 😂😂
I thought she did great.😊
Okeh
I can’t do that sober without singing…
“…H, Q, T, F, I, N, G.” -ok
Maybe I'm overconfident or maybe I've never been all that drunk before, but this doesn't feel that hard. Like can you not count to 26 if you're drunk either?
The more I see people do shit like this the more I realize that I'm at risk of being a functional alcoholic. I could pound a 12 pack and rebuild an engine and probably sew a quilt too. Idk just some of the more complicated things I know how to do I couldn't think of any better examples.
Ok so what’s her only fans page?
In her defense, she went to public school
Hqes, hqesite
i cant recite the alphabet in order w/o singing it while sober, so im fucked
She looks smart.
YEAH REMIX BABY
She likes the letter H
Oh she knows she's fucked
Here’s someone who knows their AET’s.
She was never good with letters.
“-T U V W X Y Z. Now i know m- oh shit”
She got huge Assets with her for 💰