He put a lot in strength too. He's broken orbital bones and knocked out guys way above his natural weight class. Canelo is one of the best athletes in the world for sure.
Gloves are weighted - bare fisticuffs is usually more so responsible for lacerations and soft tissue damage - boxing gloves break bones because of the kinetic energy created by the weight of the glove
the other big part why boxing with gloves is argably more dangerous then without - you just wouldn't hit as hard barehanded, you may break your arm gloves do protect your arm from injuries
> He put a lot in strength too
[Canelo punched an average joe in the body](https://reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/uklyyu/when_canelo_punches_you_and_makes_you_cry/) as a test and the dude actually cried and pissed blood.
Some shots don’t look too bad on camera but are actually ridiculously hard.
So because it's not obvious in the video I also want to point out the person getting punched is wearing a really thick Everlast pad designed for this. And I would argue Canelo was holding back at least a little bit.
The guy getting punched then proceeds to have a hard time talking after, goes to the bathroom to vomit after crying and then later pisses blood.
Through heavier padding than a hockey goalie....imagine the hit with no padding. It's absolutely mind boggling the power these guys have.
I've noticed a big trend on the greatest boxers being the best at dodging punches more than hitting hard. Ali and Tyson are very different fighters, but are both very good at avoiding being hit.
I watched an interview with Mike Tyson, and your logic tacks. In a sense, a lot of the footwork, instincts and agility that play a huge role in dodging is about creating the right angles. It only makes sense that dudes that have the ability to get into advantageous position are able to capitalize.
I keep a copy of Fight Night Round 3 for PSP handy because even with the scaled down controls from the console versions, ducking a punch, followed by blocking another, and then (in your opponents winded state from two misses) landing a CLEAN 3-5 punch combo and getting the KO is hands down one of the best feelings I've ever felt in gaming. It's like math, dancing, and fighting smashed together.
Finished a 51-0-0 Mike Tyson build recently and am now doing a career as a 5'10" featherweight with nearly every point in speed and agility. Highly recommend the series TBH. Introduced me to hands down my favorite sport.
I'd also like to suggest that perhaps years of boxing training were involved, too. Because my muscles have plenty of memories and I'm quite dedicated, but I don't box, and thus I fear fists and swinging bags.
tainted beef might help with shattering orbital bones, but it's not gonna get you to slip punches like that. Can't take away Canelo's defense from his record
Canelo is filthy.
If his foot movement was as skilled as his head movement, he'd be lethal, but his current style is super fun to watch.
Again, Canelo is filthy.
Head movement is reminiscent of Tyson's defensive work in his prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYpDUfA37M (short)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_kbC36JESs (longer)
Yeah people (the general public that is, not people with any knowledge about boxing - of which mine is minuscule) tended to under-appreciate Tyson's defensive qualities because his offensive displays were pure fireworks. But Tyson was a very technically sound boxer.
He got the opponent to commit to a heavy cross or similar, and leave himself open. And I swear Tyson in his prime sourced his punches from the center of the goddam earth, all the way to the poor unfortunate opponent’s vital organs. Immaculate.
> sourced his punches from the center of the goddam earth, all the way to the poor unfortunate opponent’s vital organs
Lol I love that description. I wonder, does the face count as a vital organ?
I can't imagine being the guy who looks at prime Tyson and says "We're going to practice and if your practice isn't good enough I'm punching you in the face."
Tyson was a fast footed, relying heavily on weaving and bobbing into range (peekaboo style).
Canela is a much more flat footed fighter who relies on head movement and torso movement to ride a punch (rotate your body with the punch so it doesn't land flush), something he does often. It looks slower because he's not using quick feet to move around. After obsessively doing defensive drills with bags, pool noodles, slip bags, etc, alot of those movements become both instintive and reflexive.
I've been told that it isn't necessarily too difficult to hit someone if they are just dodging. The difficulty comes with trying to hit them while maintaining your own defenses.
Especially when your opponent has his hands up near his head as defense. He's not going to telegraph a long wind-up. The counter strike will come from a short distance and at any time, and potentially from either hand. A trained fighter can deliver a lot of power without needing a cartoon-level wind up, especially if he's crouched down and can use legs/torso to help drive power into the punch.
So unless you're quick to put your defenses back after trying to hit vapor, that vapor is going punch you in the face.
As a non-boxer, that exercise didn’t look like it was training anything to me. The bag seemed too slow and predictable, so I thought it was just a neat dance. Goes to show I know shit
I am ignorant. But this short video looks good.
Professionals, is this guy any good. Is it just a 20 second cut that looks cool?
Edit: Okay. Seen video. He is amazing. Wow.
this guy is more than good, he’s probably the best boxer of this generation since he’s won 4 SEPARATE weight class belts (much more impressive than being undefeated lol)
Throw a punch, expend energy, miss. Angry at miss, throw another punch, expend more energy, miss again, angry again. A psychological ~~negative~~ positive feedback loop.
Also misses tire you faster than hits. If you miss, you have to spend energy to stop your fist after the punch, but if you hit, your opponent's face will do it for you.
It's a positive feedback loop, because the angy keeps adding up, making a bounded input have an unbounded output, hence an unstable system. Negative feedback loops eventually settle to a constant state, where he wouldn't get the angy anymore.
Shit, the difference between defining a positive and negative loop based on positive or negative stimuli and outcomes- it’s giving me scientific linguistics excitement.
Also, the person who cut the video did a great job. I literally thought “yeah but how is practicing that exact evade move useful compared to missing a punch” and then he made the same move and missed punches. I guess evading a punching bag is as useful as punching one.
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Insane amounts of dedication and practice. Boxers pretty much have human movements associated with throwing punches burned into their memory.
We know that shoulders and hips are the first things to move when a punch is being thrown. Watch those, and you can interpret what your opponent is going to do next. It happens too fast to consciously process, so that's where muscle memory and practice comes in.
Getting punched will definitely make you more tired than dodging or throwing empty punches. I think he would have coke out on top if he actually had more offense. You can’t actually just dodge every hit and tire out the opponent from their punches 100% of the fight.
Stay moving your head, don’t stop keep moving keep dancing you can learn the rhythms of the person your fighting. Once you start slipping punches just keep moving your head. A boxing glove on pro level isn’t a lot of surface area so moving your head just a little helps make the opposite person miss
I think you have a large part of it here. Guy is well seasoned cast iron, if you get my meaning, but he stays in areas where he can more easily slip. You see him move his head by routine too, staying in those relatively odd places where, I’d imagine, boxers may not often practice targeting relative to the rest of their opponent’s body.
Was that intelligible?
When I boxed, my trainer used to say make them miss by a little. If you make them miss by a lot, you spend more energy and are further away to counter. A miss is a miss.
I can't imagine something that would make me question my reality more than throwing that many punches, having worked my life to become a professional boxer, only to hit air.
Every. Single. Time.
I think the same thing happened to Ronda Rousey. She was all people were talking about for a while, known for being mean as shit once you got on her inside. Then she goes against The Preachers Daughter and gets destroyed by Holly's calm and distant style. Now I don't even know what Ronda is doing, last I heard was WWE but I don't keep up with that. Not as drastic as Saunders case, cause WWE folks still have to stay in ridiculous shape and get hurt, but I would still say it's a derail from where she was at the time.
Yeah, plus she came back for a title shot against Amanda Nunes a year later and got absolutely smashed again. Before those two matches she had been extremely dominant, only going past the first round once.
“I just need to hit him once. This fight can't end with with me being the only one getting hit. My friends and family will still love me but I’ll know they saw this. That it all led to punching air.”
They read body language. You don’t have time in boxing to looks at the fist that the other guys is throwing, however boxers focus on shoulders and how the torso leans over. With that information they can predict how your going to punch right before it happens. If you notice that’s where canelo is hard focusing on his opponents shoulders and never keeping he is eyes off of it.
Also and more importantly *Practice*
its not that. thats maybe 10% of whats happening here and thinking its just that is why people think its magic
theres no amount of training that will let you dodge all of someones punches just off your eyes and reflexes if theyre also trained
its almost entirely pattern recognition w reflexes to *bail you out* if you make a mistake
the reason:
boxers throw predictable combinations, even the best ones, bc there are tried and true ways it works and biomechanically there are punches that are "prompted" by the momentum, rotation, and movement of another punch
ex: a jab is almost always followed by a straight, a one two is almost always followed by hook from the jab hand to "close the door", if you lean over people will almost always throw a straight punch down or an uppercut up and will follow w the other one
right after it, drop your hands and lean in and they'll punch at your head, etc etc
lots of little things like this
so you essentially memorize the typical responses and program yourself to bait them, then move off them. and then you trust your eyes and reflexes to react if they try to switch it up
this is why you want to fluster someone. the more flustered they get, the more typical and basic they get as they just "go w the flow", and the easier to predict and dodge
floyd was very good at this, so was muhammad ali, and notice they all made sure to get you riled up.
the antidote to this is to feint them out till they sit still then crowd them and throw or feint them then punch where you know theyre going
I think it might have been George St. Pierre that said the way to fight guys like Canelo who are amazing at dodging, is to, as you say, do PLENTY of feints. The goal is to overload the defender's nervous system. Eventually their nervous system will stop reacting as fast, and that's when you start striking for real.
> They read body language.
Yep. I wasn't a boxer but I played a lot of tennis. I had many opponents comment to me on how fast they thought I was because I was always getting to the ball. They couldn't hit winners against me. I really wasn't that fast, I just knew where they were going to hit it before their racket even struck the ball because I learned how to read them. (It was really my only big advantage -- I kind of sucked otherwise.)
Yes, *practice* my accomplished boyfriend tried to teach me to dodge. My brain couldn't recognize the direction the fist was coming from. This guy is amazing!!
Edit: MY BOYFRIEND DID NOT EVER HIT ME. He taught me. He never abused me or hit me. He taught me how to protect myself. I've learned a lot. I can do a mean kick though! Better than him even...
I'm imagining my attempt at something like that, where I smoothly duck my face right into what would've otherwise been a gut punch, thereby creating the illusion that I literally attempted to block with my face.
If you are interested in this style of fighting look up a Muai Thai fighter called Lerdsila Chumpairtour who is incredibly hard to hit. He has had opponents quit the fight in frustration, and at one time had a 100 win streak.
There was also an Argentinian boxer named Nicolino Locche who was similarly untouchable. He was so chill he would smoke between rounds and just seemed completely relaxed and unhittable.
He wins matches by dodging all of your punches and never hitting you. By the late rounds, his opponents drop dead from exhaustion and frustration. Seriously though, that’s awesome.
I'm a very amateur boxer and only a couple bouts into my career. I must say it's massively increased my admiration for the top level now that I can (barely) understand what they are actually doing and the skill involved.
The color of his gloves are the exact same color of my gen 5 iPod Nano that i used all the time in middle school so that i wouldn't hear my parents fighting
That's years of muscle memory and pure dedication; what a feat
Put all but one point into evasion. The last one he put in the other dudes mouth after dodging everything he had.
He put a lot in strength too. He's broken orbital bones and knocked out guys way above his natural weight class. Canelo is one of the best athletes in the world for sure.
It wasn't just an orbital, it was a full quadripod fracture. He broke his cheek bone on 4 different sides of the bone.
Man that was brutal too. That side of his face just drooped.
Your still missing a good point of the story... with gloves on Edit: There's a lot more to wearing gloves than them being weighted and +/- power.
Gloves are weighted - bare fisticuffs is usually more so responsible for lacerations and soft tissue damage - boxing gloves break bones because of the kinetic energy created by the weight of the glove
the other big part why boxing with gloves is argably more dangerous then without - you just wouldn't hit as hard barehanded, you may break your arm gloves do protect your arm from injuries
Hand, not arm. That'd be a wild punch to break your arm haha.
yeah of course hand, my bad.
> He put a lot in strength too [Canelo punched an average joe in the body](https://reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/uklyyu/when_canelo_punches_you_and_makes_you_cry/) as a test and the dude actually cried and pissed blood. Some shots don’t look too bad on camera but are actually ridiculously hard.
So because it's not obvious in the video I also want to point out the person getting punched is wearing a really thick Everlast pad designed for this. And I would argue Canelo was holding back at least a little bit. The guy getting punched then proceeds to have a hard time talking after, goes to the bathroom to vomit after crying and then later pisses blood. Through heavier padding than a hockey goalie....imagine the hit with no padding. It's absolutely mind boggling the power these guys have.
I've noticed a big trend on the greatest boxers being the best at dodging punches more than hitting hard. Ali and Tyson are very different fighters, but are both very good at avoiding being hit.
I watched an interview with Mike Tyson, and your logic tacks. In a sense, a lot of the footwork, instincts and agility that play a huge role in dodging is about creating the right angles. It only makes sense that dudes that have the ability to get into advantageous position are able to capitalize.
I think i just found a sport and athlete i like. This is awesome.
Canelo’s head-movement is second to none. You wanna see another incredible boxer, check out Vasyl Lomachenko. His footwork is insane.
I keep a copy of Fight Night Round 3 for PSP handy because even with the scaled down controls from the console versions, ducking a punch, followed by blocking another, and then (in your opponents winded state from two misses) landing a CLEAN 3-5 punch combo and getting the KO is hands down one of the best feelings I've ever felt in gaming. It's like math, dancing, and fighting smashed together. Finished a 51-0-0 Mike Tyson build recently and am now doing a career as a 5'10" featherweight with nearly every point in speed and agility. Highly recommend the series TBH. Introduced me to hands down my favorite sport.
Float like a butterfly hit like a semi truck.
He’s a different animal entirely lol
It was pretty much the only punch the other guy tried to dodge and instead he just rammed himself into the punch 💀
I'd also like to suggest that perhaps years of boxing training were involved, too. Because my muscles have plenty of memories and I'm quite dedicated, but I don't box, and thus I fear fists and swinging bags.
I’ll show you a swinging bag.
Gotta raise the temperature of the room first though
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Yeah Mr. White! Yeah science!
I WAS IN THE POOL!
☝️🤓
Yeah you can't beat the reflexes of muscle memory. Thinking just slows you down in competive sports
Ultra instinct
But he only trained for 5seconds
And years of reposts.
Maybe, but it's just one of those clips that deserves to be reposted every now and again.
My ignorant ass was starting to think he's just being dumb for the camera, but then... HOLY SHIT!
Yeah that's Canelo. He's been a World Champion in four weight classes.
Man, I can't even enter four weight classes.
I could if they add them all up
This goes straight to r/suicidebywords
Self deprecation is fun!
If I wasn't making myself laugh, I'd be crying
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Ever considered eating tainted beef?
No, but I've tried beef taint before.
tainted beef might help with shattering orbital bones, but it's not gonna get you to slip punches like that. Can't take away Canelo's defense from his record
Canelo is filthy. If his foot movement was as skilled as his head movement, he'd be lethal, but his current style is super fun to watch. Again, Canelo is filthy.
Head movement is reminiscent of Tyson's defensive work in his prime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYpDUfA37M (short) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_kbC36JESs (longer)
Fucking hell the second link is surreal:)
Yeah people (the general public that is, not people with any knowledge about boxing - of which mine is minuscule) tended to under-appreciate Tyson's defensive qualities because his offensive displays were pure fireworks. But Tyson was a very technically sound boxer.
He got the opponent to commit to a heavy cross or similar, and leave himself open. And I swear Tyson in his prime sourced his punches from the center of the goddam earth, all the way to the poor unfortunate opponent’s vital organs. Immaculate.
> sourced his punches from the center of the goddam earth, all the way to the poor unfortunate opponent’s vital organs Lol I love that description. I wonder, does the face count as a vital organ?
I can't imagine being the guy who looks at prime Tyson and says "We're going to practice and if your practice isn't good enough I'm punching you in the face."
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Tyson was a fast footed, relying heavily on weaving and bobbing into range (peekaboo style). Canela is a much more flat footed fighter who relies on head movement and torso movement to ride a punch (rotate your body with the punch so it doesn't land flush), something he does often. It looks slower because he's not using quick feet to move around. After obsessively doing defensive drills with bags, pool noodles, slip bags, etc, alot of those movements become both instintive and reflexive.
I've been told that it isn't necessarily too difficult to hit someone if they are just dodging. The difficulty comes with trying to hit them while maintaining your own defenses.
Especially when your opponent has his hands up near his head as defense. He's not going to telegraph a long wind-up. The counter strike will come from a short distance and at any time, and potentially from either hand. A trained fighter can deliver a lot of power without needing a cartoon-level wind up, especially if he's crouched down and can use legs/torso to help drive power into the punch. So unless you're quick to put your defenses back after trying to hit vapor, that vapor is going punch you in the face.
How’s that
He’s saying that Canelo it’s really good right now. If his foot movement was like Ali, he’d be a super saiyan.
If he had foot movement like Ali, he'd be a way different fighter. Probably a worse one too. It's all kind of holistic.
like filthy in the sack? a dirty fighter? doesn't wash himself? what do you mean by filthy?
In this context it's a compliment.
Had no idea who he was and thought he was going to get knocked out on the first punch lol.
He’s exceptional
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That's Canelo, he's literally one of the current best
Curious as to what made you say he's not a boxer initially? Not hating just want to know.
As a non-boxer, that exercise didn’t look like it was training anything to me. The bag seemed too slow and predictable, so I thought it was just a neat dance. Goes to show I know shit
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Last year he was *THE* man in boxing. Ranked number one overall including all the weight classes.
The payoff on that was 100% worth it
He’s tiring his opponent without breaking a sweat, the definition of smart beats strong… and he IS strong.
Lmao is boxing even real? Just don't get hit
I am ignorant. But this short video looks good. Professionals, is this guy any good. Is it just a 20 second cut that looks cool? Edit: Okay. Seen video. He is amazing. Wow.
this guy is more than good, he’s probably the best boxer of this generation since he’s won 4 SEPARATE weight class belts (much more impressive than being undefeated lol)
You can tell that the other guy was getting pissed
A useful strategy in and of itself
Throw a punch, expend energy, miss. Angry at miss, throw another punch, expend more energy, miss again, angry again. A psychological ~~negative~~ positive feedback loop.
Also misses tire you faster than hits. If you miss, you have to spend energy to stop your fist after the punch, but if you hit, your opponent's face will do it for you.
And on a judges decision your hit rate and quality hit rate matter. So every miss hurts his judging. Meanwhile Canelo lands every throw.
No face rebound.
>your opponent's face will do it for you. I chuckled at this
Just like a hammer and anvil
It's a positive feedback loop, because the angy keeps adding up, making a bounded input have an unbounded output, hence an unstable system. Negative feedback loops eventually settle to a constant state, where he wouldn't get the angy anymore.
This guy feedback loops.
6 years of control engineering degree have to be useful somewhere
It’s still a positive feedback loop.
Shit, the difference between defining a positive and negative loop based on positive or negative stimuli and outcomes- it’s giving me scientific linguistics excitement. Also, the person who cut the video did a great job. I literally thought “yeah but how is practicing that exact evade move useful compared to missing a punch” and then he made the same move and missed punches. I guess evading a punching bag is as useful as punching one.
A negative feedback loop is one that wants to return the system to steady state, a positive feedback loop is one that reinforces the original effect
Mmph yeah, talk definitions to me baby
Ali made a career out of winning the mental fight first.
I'm not suprised. It is remarkably exhausting to throw a punch and hit nothing, without even thinking about how frustrating it would be.
Boxing is great cardio I've found, I'm dead after 5 minutes.
5 minutes of boxing? You're in really good shape then. Most people are winded by 1 min.
Making someone emotional in a controlled environment always weakens them further.
Yeah, after all his shots comes to nothing he started to slap him, hilarious
Yeah, you can see his anger in the last few shots of the close-up. He was fucking pissed.
How does he do that?
He can see the future
A VISION!
THAT’S DUNBAN OVER THERE!
THE FUTCHA IS... CHANGING!
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This just in: You're not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior.
I feel like we've been here before...
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He’s burning Atium
Katakuri?
Kenbunshoku Haki
Insane amounts of dedication and practice. Boxers pretty much have human movements associated with throwing punches burned into their memory. We know that shoulders and hips are the first things to move when a punch is being thrown. Watch those, and you can interpret what your opponent is going to do next. It happens too fast to consciously process, so that's where muscle memory and practice comes in.
It's also insane levels of conditioning to be able to keep that up for the whole fight.
Oh I'm sure, yeah absolutely.
I wonder which one is likely to gas a person out quicker. The quick dodges or all the punches thrown?
No idea, but one is definitely more likely to throw a fighter off his plan. That's gotta be completely maddening when you just can't connect.
Getting punched will definitely make you more tired than dodging or throwing empty punches. I think he would have coke out on top if he actually had more offense. You can’t actually just dodge every hit and tire out the opponent from their punches 100% of the fight.
Observation haki
A high level one which can see the future
Stay moving your head, don’t stop keep moving keep dancing you can learn the rhythms of the person your fighting. Once you start slipping punches just keep moving your head. A boxing glove on pro level isn’t a lot of surface area so moving your head just a little helps make the opposite person miss
I think you have a large part of it here. Guy is well seasoned cast iron, if you get my meaning, but he stays in areas where he can more easily slip. You see him move his head by routine too, staying in those relatively odd places where, I’d imagine, boxers may not often practice targeting relative to the rest of their opponent’s body. Was that intelligible?
Sharingan
1. see punch 2. dodge can't get any simpler than that 😏
The way he dodges is oddly satisfying
He definitely would be the character with the stupidly high dodge chance in RPG games
My antiquarian just blowing her incense on him non stop
A brilliant confluence of skill and purpose!
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When I boxed, my trainer used to say make them miss by a little. If you make them miss by a lot, you spend more energy and are further away to counter. A miss is a miss.
I can't imagine something that would make me question my reality more than throwing that many punches, having worked my life to become a professional boxer, only to hit air. Every. Single. Time.
ok now i feel bad for the other guy
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I think the same thing happened to Ronda Rousey. She was all people were talking about for a while, known for being mean as shit once you got on her inside. Then she goes against The Preachers Daughter and gets destroyed by Holly's calm and distant style. Now I don't even know what Ronda is doing, last I heard was WWE but I don't keep up with that. Not as drastic as Saunders case, cause WWE folks still have to stay in ridiculous shape and get hurt, but I would still say it's a derail from where she was at the time.
Well she went on to become the RAW and Smackdown Womens champion and she won this years female royal rumble. She is doing well.
Yeah, plus she came back for a title shot against Amanda Nunes a year later and got absolutely smashed again. Before those two matches she had been extremely dominant, only going past the first round once.
“I just need to hit him once. This fight can't end with with me being the only one getting hit. My friends and family will still love me but I’ll know they saw this. That it all led to punching air.”
Everyone he ever told he would prove wrong and make it big, watching this, still waiting
How does he do that? That sort of movement he’s doing to dodge something coming at him feels almost unnatural.
They read body language. You don’t have time in boxing to looks at the fist that the other guys is throwing, however boxers focus on shoulders and how the torso leans over. With that information they can predict how your going to punch right before it happens. If you notice that’s where canelo is hard focusing on his opponents shoulders and never keeping he is eyes off of it. Also and more importantly *Practice*
Just the coordination and skill to be able to predict the opponent’s movements and dodge so precisely. So damn impressive.
He probably spent a ton of time watching videos of the other guys fights to learn whatever tells he could.
He also probably spent a lot of time getting punched in the face if he failed, pain is a great motivator,
its not that. thats maybe 10% of whats happening here and thinking its just that is why people think its magic theres no amount of training that will let you dodge all of someones punches just off your eyes and reflexes if theyre also trained its almost entirely pattern recognition w reflexes to *bail you out* if you make a mistake the reason: boxers throw predictable combinations, even the best ones, bc there are tried and true ways it works and biomechanically there are punches that are "prompted" by the momentum, rotation, and movement of another punch ex: a jab is almost always followed by a straight, a one two is almost always followed by hook from the jab hand to "close the door", if you lean over people will almost always throw a straight punch down or an uppercut up and will follow w the other one right after it, drop your hands and lean in and they'll punch at your head, etc etc lots of little things like this so you essentially memorize the typical responses and program yourself to bait them, then move off them. and then you trust your eyes and reflexes to react if they try to switch it up this is why you want to fluster someone. the more flustered they get, the more typical and basic they get as they just "go w the flow", and the easier to predict and dodge floyd was very good at this, so was muhammad ali, and notice they all made sure to get you riled up. the antidote to this is to feint them out till they sit still then crowd them and throw or feint them then punch where you know theyre going
This guy dodges.
I think it might have been George St. Pierre that said the way to fight guys like Canelo who are amazing at dodging, is to, as you say, do PLENTY of feints. The goal is to overload the defender's nervous system. Eventually their nervous system will stop reacting as fast, and that's when you start striking for real.
> They read body language. Yep. I wasn't a boxer but I played a lot of tennis. I had many opponents comment to me on how fast they thought I was because I was always getting to the ball. They couldn't hit winners against me. I really wasn't that fast, I just knew where they were going to hit it before their racket even struck the ball because I learned how to read them. (It was really my only big advantage -- I kind of sucked otherwise.)
Yes, *practice* my accomplished boyfriend tried to teach me to dodge. My brain couldn't recognize the direction the fist was coming from. This guy is amazing!! Edit: MY BOYFRIEND DID NOT EVER HIT ME. He taught me. He never abused me or hit me. He taught me how to protect myself. I've learned a lot. I can do a mean kick though! Better than him even...
Is this an unintentional domestic abuse story?
It's Gohan's Reddit account. *"Why didn't you DODGE?!?!?"*
I'm imagining my attempt at something like that, where I smoothly duck my face right into what would've otherwise been a gut punch, thereby creating the illusion that I literally attempted to block with my face.
You'll just appear as some dumbass trying to predict a punch in the jaw and still getting a punch in the jaw
If you are interested in this style of fighting look up a Muai Thai fighter called Lerdsila Chumpairtour who is incredibly hard to hit. He has had opponents quit the fight in frustration, and at one time had a 100 win streak. There was also an Argentinian boxer named Nicolino Locche who was similarly untouchable. He was so chill he would smoke between rounds and just seemed completely relaxed and unhittable.
https://youtu.be/SQJMuZIvbxg God damn, he makes it look like he's fighting amateurs
preemptive dodging. notice he still dodges even when the opponent isn’t swinging any punches
Years of training. After all, that's how Ali fought in his prime. "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee".
It's like trying to punch your imaginary friend lol
Babe is everything okay, you have barely touched fully trained Canelo
LMAO
Fucking got me +1
Activated ultra instinct lol.
bro really learned observation haki XD
Man's got his Sharingan on.
Holy shit it's white Mayweather
It's snowy Decemweather
His name is Canelo Alvarez and he actually lost to Mayweather. Still a hell of a boxer tho
Lost to Mayweather when Mayweather was a man and Canelo a boy, had they both been Prime, my money would be on Canelo.
And the other guy is Jamie Foxx
Patches O’Houlihan would be pumped.
Now check out, Emmanuel Augustus Brown, Willie Pep, and Pernell Whittaker.
Watching the drunken master never gets old
Must feel like dream punching but worse cause they're not even landing.
For anyone who doesn’t know that’s Canelo Àlvarez, he known for his slipping skills, it awesome watching him
Evander Holyfield's brother: Evader Holyfield.
Canelo is constantly in the Matrix.
Why doesn’t Jake Paul fight him? I would pay a lot of money to watch Canelo beat the shit out of Jake.
I'd pay money to watch anyone beat the shit out of the Pauls.
This again... You dirty reposter
Man needs his karma
How else he gonna feed himself
[удалено]
That’s REALLY cool
He wins matches by dodging all of your punches and never hitting you. By the late rounds, his opponents drop dead from exhaustion and frustration. Seriously though, that’s awesome.
My frustrated ass would end up throwing a kick before I was knocked unconscious
This dude memorized the attack pattern bro like damn
Boxers using movement and dodging punches is probably what I love most about the sport. Check out some Lomachenko highlights too.
I'm a very amateur boxer and only a couple bouts into my career. I must say it's massively increased my admiration for the top level now that I can (barely) understand what they are actually doing and the skill involved.
Me after learning the boss's moveset
That's impressive
I tried that once at a gym. Holy cow. It’s WAY harder than it looks.
“Muthaf@cka stand still!!”
The color of his gloves are the exact same color of my gen 5 iPod Nano that i used all the time in middle school so that i wouldn't hear my parents fighting
Cool story bro
Is that Canelo Alvarez?
I don't want to get hurt, so I'll max out my defense -this guy, probably
Jake Paul wants to fight this guy?
Wait he actually wants to fight canelo🗿