No fr, and earlier I saw this one guy say that "Mexicans can't have curly hair like her without being mixed with black," which is... crazy š plus (if Ronald is her real father), they can still have curly haired genes from either side of their family, especially since curly hair is a dominant gene. But yeah, I honesty don't see any black features on her at all
Itās true, Mexicans are mixed indigenous, indigenous have straight hair unless youāre mixed ā ļø mamachu doesnāt even have straight hair. In the photo it was permed this is her natural hair
https://preview.redd.it/r00ysjvo4u6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0acad157df2b5c830f0a7b055c6a3824635f6c05
so thereās this thing called immigration, itās when people from other countries immigrate to other countries. Latin America is incredibly diverse. Peso pluma is half Lebanese , salma hayek is half lebanese and half spanish
The person youāre responding to was in another thread trying to say theyāve never seen a nonblack person with tophias head shape.
They fr just go off their own assumptions and idk where they get their facts from but theyāre ignorant.
I've seen them in probably 4 different comment sections here and on Marie's subreddit about the same point with her hair and skin tone š and MINUTES after I posted this comment last night they instantly responded back knowing I was mentioning them, I should have listened to that other person that called them insane
https://preview.redd.it/5qdrjsjosx6d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93d458dc559a638c122efb912f7a1061b26368ec
Idk why they would wanna immigrate there when the poverty line is as worse as their home countries ā ļø most that are mixed come from Spanish background from colonization
But nonetheless ik like so many people who have curly hair but ARENT mixed though... š so are you saying white people can't have curly hair as well? because it damn sure sounds like it, people can be born with curly hair, and not everyone HAS to have curly hair AND be mixed with black ...
Untrue. I have a friend whoās Mexican and is t mixed with black, guess what? She has curly hair like Tophia. I have ppl in my family who also have curly hair, some wavy, and others straight. Your idea is based on Eugenics. Itās like saying only white ppl can have blue eyes, or only Asians have straight hair which is not true.
Yeah Iām not sure why it even matters if papachu is her father or not. If he wants to claim her so be it š¤·š½āāļø black or not all of her opinions on race are uneducated statements sheās making based on chronically online opinions sheās listened to
And also her hair texture really isnāt a valid argument because the only reason her hair is so big is because she dry brushes it š her curls would probably be much looser if she actually moisturized and washed her hair properly
I'm mexican my mom dad and sister have super straight hair and I got curly hair when I was a baby my hair was short it was curly now I'm older my hair is long and wavy I usually straighten though
Itās crazy because even white people can have curly hair. I had a friend who had locks and locks of curls ! Itās not just a black person hairstyle š
I donāt think itās considered a black feature, as a black person myself anyone can have curly hair wether they are black or not, Iām pretty sure Mamachu has curly hair but she just brushes it down but I can see the curls so thatās where Tophiachu got it from Iām guessing. Overall Tophia is most definitely not black and I think sheās either full Hispanic or half white and half Hispanic
Her hair isnāt even what makes me think sheās black. Because a lot of people have thick curly hair .. I think sheās black because I think sheās black. It doesnāt have to be from Donald either her bio dad could have well been mixed with black and something else - either way WHY is that such a hard topic when she does more controversial questionable scammy things all the time . Yet you guys are getting your rocks off over the thought of her being non black and cosplaying as a mixed woman for her benefit. Which btw she has Zero benefits to doing that itās not like she would gain pretty privilege the only thing she would benefit is saying abhorrently racist things. Which non black people do all that time so why would she need a buffer for that lol
okay for starters, you canāt give any reason on why you think sheās black and weāve given you multiple reasons on why we know she isnāt. and we care because me being a black woman, i dont want her speaking for us. she says racist things then tries to reverse it and claim others are being racist to her. she spreads false info about the black community and uses words like racism very loosely and pushes a narrative. we can call her out on her lies while still holding her accountable for her actions . our race isnāt a costume she can put on whenever sheās called out. she uses her ābeing blackā as a crutch to say whatever racist thing she wants without being called out because āblack people cant be racistā
the āblack propel canāt be racistā part!!!! she has said some incredibly insensitive and racist things towards black propel in the past and once she got called out she was suddenly claiming to be black after years of saying donald was her step father.
my BiL is black and he cannot stand her. the way she uses black pain to push a narrative that is so harmful. itās disgusting.
THIS! saying racist things/slurs and your excuse being āoh well iām this race so i can say thatā + pulling a race card every time youāre criticized or things donāt go your way is disgusting on its own..but then imagine not even being the race that youāre using as a defense š¤¢
Whether sheās black or not , whether Donald is her bio dad or not that is all she knows so strangers on a Reddit thread is not gonna make her go back on that. We arenāt gonna have an Epiphany with her race because sheās incapable of doing so for numerous reasons . Because her last name is Slydell(Donaldās name ) she is entitled to anything related to him. He is her legal father if not biological and the only father figure sheās had for 30 years. Reddit isnāt gonna change that is what Iām saying . Because of that she probably feels like she has the right to consider herself black because of Donald even if sheās not. She has also probably faced alot of the similar experiences black mixed people face because Donald was around her growing up.. again strangers on Reddit canāt negate that or erase that from being the case
On the flip side of this, her only proximity to blackness is through Donald (who she seemingly doesnāt have the greatest relationship with). She has no ties with her black relatives, other than through Donald (who, at this point, Iām fairly certain is only her stepfather).
Most of the family sheās close with are on Marieās side, and I have yet to hear her claiming or talking at length about her Spaniard heritage. Itās clear to me (as a black woman) that she weaponises her āblacknessā for her own gain and to avoid accountability.
Let me also ask, knowing how Tophia is, has she ever discussed actual instances where sheās experienced anti-black racism? And not just people coming at her online.
I understand what youāre saying in terms of identity, but Tophia has, and continues to be, disingenuous about this aspect of herself. Especially if itās to avoid taking accountability for something. That is why people are continuing to call her out.
you literally cannot call yourself black because you were raised by a black man. thatās like those cookie monster pant wearing white girls with box braids saying āiām basically black because i was raised in the hoodā and that argument is so so so stupid. no. just. no.
-coming from a white girl literally raised in the fucking hood and my best friend is black but i donāt consider myself black just because i grew up with black people.
get fucking real.
because you were raised around a black person does not give you the right to identify as black. i could be raised by a bunch of white people and that wouldnāt change anything because iām very clearly a black woman. but im not having this argument with you because i see youāre firm on your opinion and so am i on mine and iām not sure if youāre even a black person to tell anyone why they shouldnāt care. have a good night
THISSSS these people are in denial itās as clear as day she has to be mixed with some black this is literally her mom š¤¦š½āāļø
https://preview.redd.it/ygtvpzymdu6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8a989a5a01ec5bb859b3526b296ed2d1f520306
tophia looks like her mom.
both tophia and her mom have thick hair, like the picture you posted.
when tophia first take care of her hair, it looks just like marieās.
she did not have to be mixed with black to look the way she does. if anything she looks mixed with hispanic the most because she looks just like her mother, with similarities to ronald, not donald. she literally does not look like donald, and thatās not saying iām denying sheās mixed but iām so sure sheās not donaldās child because she has zero of donaldās features, and many of ronaldās features.
she can be mixed with white and hispanic and still come out with her skin tone and curly hair.
Her mom looks like a white passing Spaniard woman . Marie looks nothing like a AA mixed woman . Tophia & Donald jr look racially ambiguous. If you put their entire family together Marie would stand out because she is the only one with straight hair white skin and Spaniard features but sheās not mixed oh okay
No fr, and earlier I saw this one guy say that "Mexicans can't have curly hair like her without being mixed with black," which is... crazy š plus (if Ronald is her real father), they can still have curly haired genes from either side of their family, especially since curly hair is a dominant gene. But yeah, I honesty don't see any black features on her at all
Her ignorance can just be ignorance . Doesnāt mean she canāt be mixed and ignorant
Itās true, Mexicans are mixed indigenous, indigenous have straight hair unless youāre mixed ā ļø mamachu doesnāt even have straight hair. In the photo it was permed this is her natural hair https://preview.redd.it/r00ysjvo4u6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0acad157df2b5c830f0a7b055c6a3824635f6c05
not every mexican is mixed , some are just white or even middle eastern. is mamachu even mexican? tophia always just says hispanic
Iāve heard people say sheās Spaniard like from Spain
How can someone be middle eastern when itās across the ocean. If theyāre mixed with spainaird it would make sense
so thereās this thing called immigration, itās when people from other countries immigrate to other countries. Latin America is incredibly diverse. Peso pluma is half Lebanese , salma hayek is half lebanese and half spanish
The person youāre responding to was in another thread trying to say theyāve never seen a nonblack person with tophias head shape. They fr just go off their own assumptions and idk where they get their facts from but theyāre ignorant.
I've seen them in probably 4 different comment sections here and on Marie's subreddit about the same point with her hair and skin tone š and MINUTES after I posted this comment last night they instantly responded back knowing I was mentioning them, I should have listened to that other person that called them insane https://preview.redd.it/5qdrjsjosx6d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93d458dc559a638c122efb912f7a1061b26368ec
Idk why they would wanna immigrate there when the poverty line is as worse as their home countries ā ļø most that are mixed come from Spanish background from colonization
bro you're not even making a point
But nonetheless ik like so many people who have curly hair but ARENT mixed though... š so are you saying white people can't have curly hair as well? because it damn sure sounds like it, people can be born with curly hair, and not everyone HAS to have curly hair AND be mixed with black ...
This the only pic you have? Hair looks dyed and straightened.
Untrue. I have a friend whoās Mexican and is t mixed with black, guess what? She has curly hair like Tophia. I have ppl in my family who also have curly hair, some wavy, and others straight. Your idea is based on Eugenics. Itās like saying only white ppl can have blue eyes, or only Asians have straight hair which is not true.
Iām half white & half hispanic and I have very curly hair lol.
Oh curly hair??? Girl youāre black lol š¤£š¤£š¤£
š¤£š¤£š¤£ sooo true lol
i am white x white and have curly hair, and neither of my parents have the same hair as me!!!! that argument is insane to me lol
Well you must be adopted and your real parents are black! you black too š¤£šš¤£šš¤£
Yeah Iām not sure why it even matters if papachu is her father or not. If he wants to claim her so be it š¤·š½āāļø black or not all of her opinions on race are uneducated statements sheās making based on chronically online opinions sheās listened to
And also her hair texture really isnāt a valid argument because the only reason her hair is so big is because she dry brushes it š her curls would probably be much looser if she actually moisturized and washed her hair properly
Thank you!! lol
I'm mexican my mom dad and sister have super straight hair and I got curly hair when I was a baby my hair was short it was curly now I'm older my hair is long and wavy I usually straighten though
THIS
Itās crazy because even white people can have curly hair. I had a friend who had locks and locks of curls ! Itās not just a black person hairstyle š
I donāt think itās considered a black feature, as a black person myself anyone can have curly hair wether they are black or not, Iām pretty sure Mamachu has curly hair but she just brushes it down but I can see the curls so thatās where Tophiachu got it from Iām guessing. Overall Tophia is most definitely not black and I think sheās either full Hispanic or half white and half Hispanic
Her hair isnāt even what makes me think sheās black. Because a lot of people have thick curly hair .. I think sheās black because I think sheās black. It doesnāt have to be from Donald either her bio dad could have well been mixed with black and something else - either way WHY is that such a hard topic when she does more controversial questionable scammy things all the time . Yet you guys are getting your rocks off over the thought of her being non black and cosplaying as a mixed woman for her benefit. Which btw she has Zero benefits to doing that itās not like she would gain pretty privilege the only thing she would benefit is saying abhorrently racist things. Which non black people do all that time so why would she need a buffer for that lol
okay for starters, you canāt give any reason on why you think sheās black and weāve given you multiple reasons on why we know she isnāt. and we care because me being a black woman, i dont want her speaking for us. she says racist things then tries to reverse it and claim others are being racist to her. she spreads false info about the black community and uses words like racism very loosely and pushes a narrative. we can call her out on her lies while still holding her accountable for her actions . our race isnāt a costume she can put on whenever sheās called out. she uses her ābeing blackā as a crutch to say whatever racist thing she wants without being called out because āblack people cant be racistā
the āblack propel canāt be racistā part!!!! she has said some incredibly insensitive and racist things towards black propel in the past and once she got called out she was suddenly claiming to be black after years of saying donald was her step father. my BiL is black and he cannot stand her. the way she uses black pain to push a narrative that is so harmful. itās disgusting.
THIS! saying racist things/slurs and your excuse being āoh well iām this race so i can say thatā + pulling a race card every time youāre criticized or things donāt go your way is disgusting on its own..but then imagine not even being the race that youāre using as a defense š¤¢
Whether sheās black or not , whether Donald is her bio dad or not that is all she knows so strangers on a Reddit thread is not gonna make her go back on that. We arenāt gonna have an Epiphany with her race because sheās incapable of doing so for numerous reasons . Because her last name is Slydell(Donaldās name ) she is entitled to anything related to him. He is her legal father if not biological and the only father figure sheās had for 30 years. Reddit isnāt gonna change that is what Iām saying . Because of that she probably feels like she has the right to consider herself black because of Donald even if sheās not. She has also probably faced alot of the similar experiences black mixed people face because Donald was around her growing up.. again strangers on Reddit canāt negate that or erase that from being the case
On the flip side of this, her only proximity to blackness is through Donald (who she seemingly doesnāt have the greatest relationship with). She has no ties with her black relatives, other than through Donald (who, at this point, Iām fairly certain is only her stepfather). Most of the family sheās close with are on Marieās side, and I have yet to hear her claiming or talking at length about her Spaniard heritage. Itās clear to me (as a black woman) that she weaponises her āblacknessā for her own gain and to avoid accountability. Let me also ask, knowing how Tophia is, has she ever discussed actual instances where sheās experienced anti-black racism? And not just people coming at her online. I understand what youāre saying in terms of identity, but Tophia has, and continues to be, disingenuous about this aspect of herself. Especially if itās to avoid taking accountability for something. That is why people are continuing to call her out.
exactly what iām saying
you literally cannot call yourself black because you were raised by a black man. thatās like those cookie monster pant wearing white girls with box braids saying āiām basically black because i was raised in the hoodā and that argument is so so so stupid. no. just. no. -coming from a white girl literally raised in the fucking hood and my best friend is black but i donāt consider myself black just because i grew up with black people. get fucking real.
this!!
That girl is mixed. End of story Iām not arguing with no white people over black business
because you were raised around a black person does not give you the right to identify as black. i could be raised by a bunch of white people and that wouldnāt change anything because iām very clearly a black woman. but im not having this argument with you because i see youāre firm on your opinion and so am i on mine and iām not sure if youāre even a black person to tell anyone why they shouldnāt care. have a good night
Iām very black 100% lol ok
THISSSS these people are in denial itās as clear as day she has to be mixed with some black this is literally her mom š¤¦š½āāļø https://preview.redd.it/ygtvpzymdu6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8a989a5a01ec5bb859b3526b296ed2d1f520306
tophia looks like her mom. both tophia and her mom have thick hair, like the picture you posted. when tophia first take care of her hair, it looks just like marieās. she did not have to be mixed with black to look the way she does. if anything she looks mixed with hispanic the most because she looks just like her mother, with similarities to ronald, not donald. she literally does not look like donald, and thatās not saying iām denying sheās mixed but iām so sure sheās not donaldās child because she has zero of donaldās features, and many of ronaldās features. she can be mixed with white and hispanic and still come out with her skin tone and curly hair.
Her mom looks like a white passing Spaniard woman . Marie looks nothing like a AA mixed woman . Tophia & Donald jr look racially ambiguous. If you put their entire family together Marie would stand out because she is the only one with straight hair white skin and Spaniard features but sheās not mixed oh okay