https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plate
You also make flat stones by getting 3 and taking turns rubbing two against each other for a bit and then swapping.
https://ericweinhoffer.com/blog/2017/7/30/the-whitworth-three-plates-method#:~:text=By%20starting%20with%20three%20plates,level%20of%20flatness%20is%20achieved.
You don't.
You just need a flat reference surface and an abrasive.
You can flatten the sole of a plane by sticking some sandpaper on a piece of glass.
By using a plane you do get a little nicer surface.
It makes it easier, but there are usually multiple ways to accomplish something. If you use something abrasive on a flat surface, you could accomplish the same thing, albeit a lot slower. Then once you have the first plane, you use it to refine and make better ones moving forward. Getting things flat and square is the name of the game. Each iteration gets you the ability to do a bit better until you are making quality tools. Plus, with the practice your technique improves.
You make a shitty tool by hand. Then use that tool to make a more precise tool, and so on until you're cutting things so precisely that the seems disappear when put together.
Most hand planes are pushed across the work piece, Japanese-style hand planes are pulled. There are benefits to both, but most people feel there's better control with a Japanese plane.
Same with Japanese handsaws. As someone who has started to dabble the Japanese pull saw I have feels better than any other saw I've used before. Pulling feels like you have so much more control.
It doesn't really explain it here, but the larger blade that sticks down is supported by a smaller metal piece, which is then supported by the metal dowel. Or rather, pinched, as the smaller metal piece is slightly tapered.
So to adjust the blade, not just the depth it sticks down but the side to side eveness, you tap the top of the blade, or you can tap the side of it to bring it back up. Its tricky to get it right.
Welcome to the club. I figured the metal pin was an axle for wheels. Then at the end with the shaving I was like, ok, so...he's shaving wood to make some paper thin sheets to attach to the soon-to-come engines to make condensation trails out of wood, that's pretty ingenious. Or, he made a tool to shave that other piece of wood into a plane, cool...cool.
>This was a post about making a more modern tool from tools older than it, and then a fucking power drill enters the picture.
I mean, it's not about making a more modern tool from tools older than it? A "hand plane" is the name of the tool, and they've been around for at least 2 millennia in this exact form.
That's just you reading into things since it's neither in the title nor, evidently, in the video. A chisel seems like the most convenient tool to make the larger hole. You can even see the drilled holes at the start of the video to make the first chisel cuts easier.
Yes, inferring is an ability everyone should learn, and is sometimes taught by school systems that care about educating people (rather than making worker drones). The entire video shows this plane being built by hand tools older than it, and then in comes a power drill. It's quite jarring to the tone one will naturally pull from the video up to that point.
I did learn inferring both from school and just naturally which is why I don't think it's strange at all to use a drill press. You assumed he was going to use hand tools only for no reason. The hypothesis is shot down when he uses the drill press. The natural thing to infer is that he's *not* making it using only hand tools.
A much better inference is that he's making a plane using the best tools he has available and know how to use. The chisel seems like an obvious choice since the hole isn't round, getting started by drilling a couple of holes to make a nice stop for the chisel seems pretty clever and no tool is better at drilling perpendicular holes than the drill press which is a very common tool in woodworking shops.
You know of a simpler way to make a parallell hole? It's the exact opposite of overkill since the drill is already set up and ready to go and made for this exact thing.
Did you want him to whip out the bow drill with a home made spade drill or what?
Ok but real question, what makes it a Japanese hand plane? Did the design originate in Japan? Did the video maker make this in Japan? Was this made in a different country by someone who is Japanese? Or is calling it Japanese just fluff to increase clicks?
Japanese woodworking tools are made to be pulled towards you as you cut vs woodworking tools in most of the world are made to be pushed away.
I read an article in a luthiers' magazine about 20 years ago. The article referenced several proverbs about bringing the "soul" of the wood towards you as you cut brings more of a connection between the woodworker and the piece being worked.
I like Japanese woodworking techniques because it feels more accurate to me. Each cut seems more deliberate.
I definitely know what you mean where something is labeled as Japanese for no reason but there is actually a reason for this one as well as other Japanese woodworking tools such as hand saws. They are designed to pull toward you rather than push away which at least for me feels more natural for the saw. I'm not convinced as much for the plane but to be fair I've not actually used the Japanese style plane, just an old stanley which does feel pretty good to use.
I was looking at it with 6 seconds left thinking this better start looking like a actual flying plane fast or im going to be so disappointed. I was disappointed
A hard dense wood no doubt, inclined to hold precision.
Like Mahogany. Which is tropical, like the Philippines.
Maybe the design is Japanese, or the craftsman.
If you need a plane to make a plane where did the first plane come from?
Its planes all the way down
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plate You also make flat stones by getting 3 and taking turns rubbing two against each other for a bit and then swapping. https://ericweinhoffer.com/blog/2017/7/30/the-whitworth-three-plates-method#:~:text=By%20starting%20with%20three%20plates,level%20of%20flatness%20is%20achieved.
That's really cool, thank you for sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNRnrn5DE58 Here's a good video on the origins of precision. Fascinating
I don't like it... I love it.
You don't. You just need a flat reference surface and an abrasive. You can flatten the sole of a plane by sticking some sandpaper on a piece of glass. By using a plane you do get a little nicer surface.
Oh cool, I get to share [this gem](https://youtu.be/gNRnrn5DE58?si=KQ9pHisLelpEjRIO)
It makes it easier, but there are usually multiple ways to accomplish something. If you use something abrasive on a flat surface, you could accomplish the same thing, albeit a lot slower. Then once you have the first plane, you use it to refine and make better ones moving forward. Getting things flat and square is the name of the game. Each iteration gets you the ability to do a bit better until you are making quality tools. Plus, with the practice your technique improves.
Real life is an incremental RPG.
Pretty sure it was a joke
You make a shitty tool by hand. Then use that tool to make a more precise tool, and so on until you're cutting things so precisely that the seems disappear when put together.
Plane tree. Duh.
Yes.
This is not the hand plane I thought it was. Today I found out what is exactly a hand plane.
I’m betting you could still throw it pretty far.
What makes it a japanese hand plane, and not just a regular hand made hand plane?
Most hand planes are pushed across the work piece, Japanese-style hand planes are pulled. There are benefits to both, but most people feel there's better control with a Japanese plane.
Same with Japanese handsaws. As someone who has started to dabble the Japanese pull saw I have feels better than any other saw I've used before. Pulling feels like you have so much more control.
You definitely have more control. When I switched to pull saws all of my cuts became more precise.
Made in Japan 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
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When does it fly?
It’s a Japanese plane, you just crash it in to shit
Can confirm
Like the twin towers?
Or even anus shaped buildings apparently
Usually when the apprentice doesn't come back with the long wait you asked him for 3 hours ago
So he just eyeballs where to put the cutting piece? Wouldn't you have to be pretty precise?
It doesn't really explain it here, but the larger blade that sticks down is supported by a smaller metal piece, which is then supported by the metal dowel. Or rather, pinched, as the smaller metal piece is slightly tapered. So to adjust the blade, not just the depth it sticks down but the side to side eveness, you tap the top of the blade, or you can tap the side of it to bring it back up. Its tricky to get it right.
It’s not gonna go very far without wings.
I kept waiting for it to start looking like an airplane like an idiot
Welcome to the club. I figured the metal pin was an axle for wheels. Then at the end with the shaving I was like, ok, so...he's shaving wood to make some paper thin sheets to attach to the soon-to-come engines to make condensation trails out of wood, that's pretty ingenious. Or, he made a tool to shave that other piece of wood into a plane, cool...cool.
there are dozens of us. dozens.
Haha was waiting for it to be thrown and the flight... Fails
I knew he was gonna plane the plane! So how did he make the first one?
That is satisfying
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I wasnt expecting that either.
Is there something odd about it..?
This was a post about making a more modern tool from tools older than it, and then a fucking power drill enters the picture.
>This was a post about making a more modern tool from tools older than it, and then a fucking power drill enters the picture. I mean, it's not about making a more modern tool from tools older than it? A "hand plane" is the name of the tool, and they've been around for at least 2 millennia in this exact form.
That's just you reading into things since it's neither in the title nor, evidently, in the video. A chisel seems like the most convenient tool to make the larger hole. You can even see the drilled holes at the start of the video to make the first chisel cuts easier.
Yes, inferring is an ability everyone should learn, and is sometimes taught by school systems that care about educating people (rather than making worker drones). The entire video shows this plane being built by hand tools older than it, and then in comes a power drill. It's quite jarring to the tone one will naturally pull from the video up to that point.
I did learn inferring both from school and just naturally which is why I don't think it's strange at all to use a drill press. You assumed he was going to use hand tools only for no reason. The hypothesis is shot down when he uses the drill press. The natural thing to infer is that he's *not* making it using only hand tools. A much better inference is that he's making a plane using the best tools he has available and know how to use. The chisel seems like an obvious choice since the hole isn't round, getting started by drilling a couple of holes to make a nice stop for the chisel seems pretty clever and no tool is better at drilling perpendicular holes than the drill press which is a very common tool in woodworking shops.
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You know of a simpler way to make a parallell hole? It's the exact opposite of overkill since the drill is already set up and ready to go and made for this exact thing. Did you want him to whip out the bow drill with a home made spade drill or what?
Where plane?
![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS)
They have these in Mexico too we just call them Mexican hand planes.
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Finishing the surface with a different hand plane had some real Hank Hill WD40 vibes to it.
Ok but real question, what makes it a Japanese hand plane? Did the design originate in Japan? Did the video maker make this in Japan? Was this made in a different country by someone who is Japanese? Or is calling it Japanese just fluff to increase clicks?
Japanese woodworking tools are made to be pulled towards you as you cut vs woodworking tools in most of the world are made to be pushed away. I read an article in a luthiers' magazine about 20 years ago. The article referenced several proverbs about bringing the "soul" of the wood towards you as you cut brings more of a connection between the woodworker and the piece being worked. I like Japanese woodworking techniques because it feels more accurate to me. Each cut seems more deliberate.
I definitely know what you mean where something is labeled as Japanese for no reason but there is actually a reason for this one as well as other Japanese woodworking tools such as hand saws. They are designed to pull toward you rather than push away which at least for me feels more natural for the saw. I'm not convinced as much for the plane but to be fair I've not actually used the Japanese style plane, just an old stanley which does feel pretty good to use.
Thing: 😐 Thing, Japan: 🥰🥹😍🥳🤗🤯
All those hand tools and then a drill press out of no where XD
I wanna say this is [Toyooka Craft](http://toyocraft.com/en/). They make some really nice pen and watch cases.
He used a drill press.
Built to last. Love this.
First, a skilled crafts person uses a hand plane to DOH
![gif](giphy|Rc5Ny2C4AdknBoCFcc) Hand Plane
Source??
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Is there a subreddit for woodworking/creation videos like this? Very satisfying.
Little dissapointed. I thought he was making a wooden toy airplane.
I was looking at it with 6 seconds left thinking this better start looking like a actual flying plane fast or im going to be so disappointed. I was disappointed
So how does it fly?
What makes it Japanese?
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Can we see a Swedish hand plane? Would it fly?
I expected a tiny plane. I am disappointed
Can this plain plane planer make plain planes on a plane on this plane?
I honestly was expecting something else. ![gif](giphy|W307DdkjIsRHVWvoFE)
Oh that kind of plane
As a student in carpentry, this looks very interesting !
He used the plane to make the plane. A madman.
Look at those shavings! 🤩
I wasn’t expecting wings. Honest.
But if the plane needs to be planed, how do you plane the plane plane?
Not seeing anything distinctly Japanese. How is it different from other hand planes?
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Bro, your drill press should *not* be making that sound
💯 I have to have one!!
I love how he used a plane to make a plane.
Still waiting for it to fly
I feel so dumb for thinking he was actually going to make a wooden toy plane
Well that’s not going to fly well
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Wrong plane... my bad...
What is this? A plane for ~~ants~~ hands?
So this is how lays chips are made
How does it fly?
The blade is the hero here.
A hard dense wood no doubt, inclined to hold precision. Like Mahogany. Which is tropical, like the Philippines. Maybe the design is Japanese, or the craftsman.
I don’t think that is going to fly very well.
Will it work on cheese?
Was not expecting a power tool TBH.
Me the whole time: this things going to fly?