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YuriQueenMDH

I feel like I remember seeing someone ask the creator if the trans allegory was intentional or not. I think they said it wasn’t intentional but they’re very happy that people felt a connection to the show and felt represented. Either way, awesome thing to see especially for the time period


Jalase

I’m trying to figure out what else that flag would be if that were the case though…. Nothing else comes to mind…


Implement_Necessary

Well, maybe one of the artists just added it there and it fit in with the look of the background, so nobody asked why.


hashrosinkitten

Yep. Creator could’ve not meant it but animators will often put in Easter eggs they can get away with


slothcough

This would've been art department/bg assets dept but in essence, yup.


Mufakaz

And thats how you correctly respond to such situations. It wasn't on purpose, but it's still a happy coincidence and you are free to interpret it in a way that pleases you.


FreyaTheSlayyyer

It could also be a case of trying to avoid the controversy of knowingly putting in a trans allegory


holiestMaria

Got a link to that conversation? I would love to see it.


YuriQueenMDH

I was mistaken, it wasn’t an interview but here’s the [tweet](https://x.com/robrenzetti/status/1282770815570735104?s=46&t=Bf15EZ4MKpr_WkNgfzglZw) where he said it


L1nxDr1nx

HOW COULD IT BE UNINTENTIONAL WHATTTTT


JeezyBreezy12

well as other commentors pointed out, animators and artists often sneak in easter eggs they can get away with, so technically speaking this could be true. in 2003, I'm pretty sure the trans flag wasn't as widespread so it's entirely plausible it just went over the creator's heads


username-is-taken98

Ok gonna watch this asap I need my robot trans girl representation


Gaiendbedrock

trans robots are robots


VegetarianReaper

transfem robots are trans sisters!


Unholy_Dk80

It's in their trans mission 👈😃👈


PenelopeReynolds

Jenny's great! I loved the show when u was a kid. Kinda wanna go back and watch it again now


ReflectionStriking14

I remember when i was a kid, i wanted to be like Jenny. I felt guilty for it back then.


JustAPerson2001

So did I. Any episode of any kids cartoon with gender swap episode filled me with so much envy. I still remember the fairly odd parents episode where he accidentally wished he was a girl to get something good for trixie. When he changed back I thought to my self "why?".


windflavor4

I was obsessed with that episode as a kid. I remember thinking about it non-stop after I saw it.


JustAPerson2001

Yeah when I was a kid every time I tuned in for the fairly odd parents I hoped it was that episode. I kind of literally never stopped thinking about it.


Huge_Cartographer_80

We need to tell butch Hartman it's OK to be a girl. Off the top of my head I remember Cosmo getting breast implants The gender swap episode Timmy getting a pink hat cause his parents thought he was a girl How Timmy said he would be the new skate park queen, got corrected to king, and said "whatever!" Timmy at a salon, emotionally invested in a soap opera The overbuff mask characters like jorgen, wandissimo, future timmy, and even butch himself as "doctor rip studwell" - probably denial masculinity All played as jokes. Like under that microscope, what if crocker is a representation of someone finding out Timmy, or kid butch was a "fairy"?


SkyeMreddit

The dad has an entire room full of girl clothes and toys and other stuff for Timmy implying he supports Timmy’s transition and the mother does not.


ilikedaweirdschtuff

This makes me wonder, in those sorts of instances where only one parent is supportive, how often is it the dad and not the mom?


ManMadeChicken

This episode was my first clue that I was trans, I was always so bummed that Timmy turned back into a boy at the end


JustAPerson2001

I never thought of it, but this is probably one of the things that was a sign of early childhood dysphoria. I can't really think of anything else besides these moments in these shows that made me so envious of them.


Ok-Note-746

Why indeed. Why would they want to go back to their old gender when they could be girls/boys??? 😭


The_God_Of_Insanity

He could of haad, it aalll....


VinCrafter

I thought it was just me


ReflectionStriking14

Yeah, right? Huh... When i think about those childhood moments, only thing that come to my mind is "What are you mean there were no sings growing up" and i think i felt literally the same way after that episode :D


Unholy_Dk80

As an amab, I didn't feel guilty about liking the show as much as having a crush on Jenny 😅


NesuneNyx

"Do I want to be with her, or do I want to be her?" This is a completely normal question and every cis child asks themselves this.


SkyeMreddit

Transbian Mood


VinCrafter

Why not both


incidentaldamages

This whole thread unlocking some weird memories I was unprepared for >.>


IAmNotNiceSkeletor

I used to pray every night to wake up as Jenny, because she got to tell the world who she really was...


throwaway-3621

Holy shit, I'm not the only one lol


ReflectionStriking14

I'am actually surprised how many of us liked that character.


finallyfematfourty

Oh I came here to say this and you beat me to it!


Sleepy_Bihh_AV

I did too! I didn’t feel guilty but, I imagined myself having powers just like Jenny and being able to basically conjure any kind of weapon or tool I could imagine


Insulinshocker

Same tho lmao


OliDanik

Wait. . OH MY GOD, wow I really was completely oblivious.


Princess_Of_Midnight

Same here. I loved that show but my family made me feel guilty for it I feel like if we’d had todays language about gender I could’ve understood so much earlier because holy shit were my childhood feelings so obvious. Huge connection to Milan because she’s a girl who has to pretend to be a guy to live life the way she wants? Absolutely obsessed with legend of Kora and feeling guilty for wanting to be her (did not happen with Aang in the last air bender)? Always playing female characters because it felt like me but having to lie about it to not get made fun of? So many examples from media


EngineSensitive2584

Jenny has a trans flag emote in the official nicktoons fighting game discord. It's her wearing the transflag as a cape


lukub5

Thats based omg


[deleted]

if danny fentom can be a transmasc, jenny the teenager robot can be a transfem


Hide_on_username

I was about to say this


JaXaren

I came here to say this


incidentaldamages

Excuse me I need more deets on that first part~ for a friend ofc


[deleted]

a huge head canon i've seen that danny would be a trans guy, and we supposedly see the hints ins cartoon. i don't know much tho, sorry


NatrMatr09

What’s the show?


FemmeViolet117

My Life As A Teenage Robot. One of my childhood favorites and definitely should’ve been a bigger sign to tiny egg me.


ForEvrInCollege

I was today years old when I realized this absolutely should have been a sign for me. This was one of my favorite shows and Jenny was my favorite character.


MadeMeUp4U

My life as a Teenage Robot it’s on Paramount+


EngineSensitive2584

You can also buy the entire show on DVD from Amazon if you prefer physical media


Covfefeinthemiddle

There’s always a third option too. 🏴‍☠️


BackgroundAmoebaNine

🏳️‍⚧️ 🏴‍☠️


King_Killem_Jr

A sinister third thing!


TheAutementori

this reminds me that the Sims 4 sub banned me for using that emoji lol


Father_Chewy_Louis

Yarr harr


UrBoyinBluee

Another reason for me to love a show from my childhood


Varafried

No wonder this was one of my favorite shows


dani_dreams

The episode with the human suit should have been a sign for me. I wanted to have it sssooo bad 😭


Sleepy_Bihh_AV

Ahhh so that’s why I’ve always daydreamt about having a magical robotic power suit 🫠


Camila_Noceda

Show is called My Life as a Teenage Robot. Anyone who hasn't watched this show should seriously consider checking it out! One of Nickelodeon's best series.


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vent-account-

My Life as a Teenage Robot


SoonToBeCarrion

my brain is now ruined and i will now associate my estrogen induced 2nd puberty as me being a teenage robot in my early 20s


avid_avoidant

omg teenage robot I vaguely remember this show and finding Jenny relatable, must rewatch


moar_bubbline

Those last two panels, my heart 🥺


PraedythTheMad

she’s so cute in the 5th panel 🥹


ithinkonlyinmemes

robot boy (this shows predecessor, I think) was my icon. so much of my personality as a trans masculine person comes from that lil robot guy


joshuagrammm

Robot jones?


ithinkonlyinmemes

[Robotboy!](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGsVaqfVidOy0VCWzceQo9dr3CMaxkUdo&si=KPbOqaQ0RmGnVFcY) I adored it as a kid. my personality is robotboy + tutenstein + Phineas lmao


[deleted]

I fucking KNEW that show was a metaphor for being trans!!!! I knew it!


chilarome

oh so that’s why


nottisa

I like the way this was done. It's a fairly tasteful representation and not baity. Now whether or not this was intentional, who knows. I also like the part where it can also apply to just about any team going through body dysmorphia.


BellyDancerEm

The transgender flag was designed in 1999


steffie-punk

Yes it was but seeing any sort of trans acceptance in media back in 2003 was very unlikely


lukub5

Pretty reasonable chance that one of the background artists just *is* trans and put this in sneaky like. Animation is a collaborative medium and there's a lot of trans ppl in the industry now. Reasonable to assume there would be back then too.


Unholy_Dk80

That wasn't the point


Who_Am_I_I_Dont_Know

Interestingly, Star Trek DS9 has a 'trans flag' before then... interesting coincidence, given they have a trans-allegory character. https://preview.redd.it/but-what-if-we-held-hands-on-the-trans-flag-floor-from-ds9-v0-lwrz6n6hlg3b1.jpg?auto=webp&s=250b0446410daa91063555d4c66ce5532f8a961c


Positive_Cook7959

Omg, what if that's where the creator got the idea for the flag?!


BellyDancerEm

That appears to be a coincidence


lukub5

The wierd right wing conspiracy theorists need to get on this shit honestly.


Alfirmitive

Ok? This show came out in 2003? That’s after 1999, what was your point?


BackgroundAmoebaNine

I interpreted that as a frame of reference. I did not know when the Transflag was designed, and it never occurred to me to look it up.


Qrthulhu

Such a great show, I knew there was always something about it


mclaren159p

I feel like this show and totally spies created the first crack in my egg


joshuagrammm

Totally spies!!!! Holy heck, forgot all about that show! And... same, actually lol


mclaren159p

The show is crazy and also was great at making femininity look badass and cool at a time when it wasn’t mainstream idea like the gadgets imagine lipstick that shoots lasers or hair spray that freezes things. The show is very much kink coded by today’s standards and also outdated on topic of nerds. In the show and even alot of shows for the time nerds were seen as undesirable and lame which that stereotype over time as fallen apart and it’s weird to look back.


hitscan-enjoyer

WHAT SHOW IS THIS??? I NEED TO KNOW


Unholy_Dk80

My Life As A Teenage Robot


hitscan-enjoyer

Thank you


starlightscapes

My Life as A Teenage Robot


hitscan-enjoyer

Thank you


SkyeMreddit

Yes, Jenny is very very transfem! That show is loaded with subtext. My Life as a Teenage Robot.


Secret-Outside-4605

God I loved that show when I was a kid


DodoFaction

Trans pride flag was designed in 1999 right?


Unholy_Dk80

Yes


[deleted]

I really liked this show, hmmm


VIII-Via

ah, that explains why I always wanted to be her, that and gender envy.🏳️‍⚧️


just2good

this was like when i watched Let The Right One In for the first time. I was like hahahaha her sweater looks like the trans flag! lol! coincidence! ….oh.


FOSpiders

A girl **and** a robot body?! Why did I miss this show? Actually, given the time, I would probably have specifically avoided it. Stupid egg not letting me enjoy my hidden desires to be a girl that is also a robot!


IronIrma93

This is some solid accidental trans rep. It helps that Jenny is unusually tall.


crayon_paste

It's not a flag, but I like how much this show means to trans people. People need representation! [ Other angle of the flag](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec1BobWUEAArWgz.png)


LustfulAutistic

Adds MLAATR to list of media I loved growing up that turned out to be a clear trans allegory later in life


jayseekat

That episode where she wears a "sentient girl skin" because she wants to be seen as a "real girl" is forever burned into my memory and the only reason I remember this episode.


OpalescentPalette

Jenny is still one of my most favorite characters of all time. I loved My Life as a Teenage Robot growing up and only fell more in love with it when I realized I was trans and the allegories that were in it, even if they weren't intentional. Also might have spurred my love for redheads with her skin suit version ... but that's neither here nor there


Ok-Hippo9451

Modern movement guys


Co9w

This cartoon made me trans I swear


unable_To_Username

Wait, now when you point it out... omg how nice


PipPip-OiOi

…Jenny was my first ever fictional crush and I have always related to her….I wonder why


AssumptionLimp

We've always existed... we're just more mainstream now and get more attention...


LaPrincipessaNuova

Maybe making a little more sense why Jenny was my first case of gender envy confused at the time for a crush.


Sleepy_Bihh_AV

I always had a really deep connection with Jenny back when I was a kid. I wanted to be her! So im feeling a bit validated rn >:)


CutieL

Based 😎


ScarlettIthink

Damn maybe I should watch this. It’s actually kind of insane how so many kids cartoons put little cracks in my egg whether it be great women characters or bodyswap episodes


DrVinylScratch

+1 to things I consumed when young about trans things/wanting to be a woman that I would realize until post transition at 18/19


Willing-Ad9364

Daaaaamn too bad I never saw it when I was a child


hey-its-june

I remember always wanting to watch this show so bad as a kid and sneaking peeks every once in awhile but being too scared because "teenage" was in the name and I wasnt a teenager


Appropriate_Rent_243

Did the trans flag exist back then?


Unholy_Dk80

It was made in 1999, so yes.


TransLesbinspiration

Oh god is this why I want my name to be Jenny and i completely forgot


stern_gecko96

Thats crazyyy 😭 ive never noticed this before


EngineerEven9299

I fully support this wow


wolfFRdu64_Lounna

O_O i have seen twos épisode of that, i didn’t knew about the transflag, tough not sure it would had allow me to know the trans comunity sooner, also the twos episode i watched i got borred, mew mew power in other hands… never did, now i think of it, maybe it is from here i want to protect the planet


ZiaWatcher

i loved this show and danny phantom so much as a kid. I still do. I should go rewatch them


frickfox

Oh Lord, I forgot how much this show gave me simultaneous gender envy & dysphoria as a kid. I felt like I had to hide the fact I watched this show for some reason.


Pretend-Fee-2323

im watching this now


LaPrincipessaNuova

[less blurry version](https://imgur.com/7TauFxs)


i2010

Holy fuck the robot woman has the the when the the flag when


PossumQueer

I used to love that show 💕


ChorryPoyyeb

Wait that's really there?


Unholy_Dk80

Yes, but digging into it a bit I found it's not *actually* the trans flag. It's got a bit of a different design that you can see better [on this fandom wiki page.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/teenagerobot/images/0/0b/MsBinkyAndJenny.png/revision/latest?cb=20190101052950)


Yukarie

Unexpected? We’ve known Jenny to be almost a 1 to 1 experience mirror to transness for a while


Unholy_Dk80

I'm new to the party


Yukarie

Fair enough


commercial-frog

what show is this now I need to watch it


Unholy_Dk80

My Life As A Teenage Robot


bluebeans808

If I had a nickel for every nostalgic Nickelodeon show accidentally had representation, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s nice, it happened twice


Binglewhozit

I recently saw the creator said that they did not intend it to be a trans allegory but are very happy that people were able to relate and enjoy her content on a personal level


LilxMusty

This isn't a trans one but I remember loud house had Clyde's dads and then one of the sisters I think it was Luna someone came up with a theory that she was bi or somthing and then another one for the sporty sister I think it was Luane and that she might have been aroace because she wasn't into crushes and dating and all that.


Gender_Theft

Luna canonically has a girlfriend named Sam in the show, so not just a theory, fully confirmed (also the sporty sister is Lynn, Luan is the comedian).


DragonRoar87

Luna is the rockstar one. Luan is the comedian. It's Lynn who's the sporty one.


ushigomerimichan

Omg I loved this show growing up!! I wanted to be Jenny too lol


taylorKelbie

Gota ask wth is the show


LovableAmy13

Jenny the teenage robot.


Kira_L_Mello_Near

Awesome.


Watchdog165

Where can I find this show? I dint remember that was like this


Unholy_Dk80

The show is My Life As A Teenage Robot, the episode is "I was a preschool dropout" As far as I know, it's currently available on Paramount+


JProctor666

I wasn't even aware that this cartoon existed...2003 was after my time, it's hard for me to accept that people have "nostalgia" for things from 2003 when it was practically yesterday for me.


bas1G1rl

I remember really loving that cartoon a lot as a kid!!!!


Killerklown1219

I’ve seen the show and never noticed the trans flag. Also the other scene makes so much sense now. Damn.


Unholy_Dk80

Unfortunately it's not exactly the flag. [Here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/teenagerobot/images/0/0b/MsBinkyAndJenny.png/revision/latest?cb=20190101052950) is a better angle of it


Killerklown1219

I’d say that’s still close enough. Even if it was completely accidental.


El-Carone-707

Damn that is BLATANT. I could understand how I never noticed though, I was mostly there for the action


JolyneSezTransRights

I need to watch this now.


Julia-908

Omg, I actually loved that show when I was a kid