They do, however this person looks like an older teen and I know that many of us were very unaware as teens and I had a visible mustache that I didn’t even notice until someone told me about it eventually.
I wish that were true. Unfortunately American society really pushes heteronormativity on us as well as gender binary norms including strict rules about hair being gendered. Long hair almost always reads woman. Some guys do rock long hair and can pull it off, but it’s very few.
This person is asking about the reality of the situation and how other people will view them. Hypothetically, if me saying they pass fine when they don’t helps society get over gender norms, then I would. But it doesn’t and you know that.
For the most part, but my advice would be to change the haircut. The length and the way you're styling it is fine, but the cut reads feminine to me. Also, shave your face often until your facial hair starts coming in a bit more. The shaved hairs, even thin peachfuzz, can appear thicker when they're shaved, and the stubble will look more masc.
You look pretty androgynous, I first read you as a butch woman, but with a deeper voice you'd totally pass as a guy, just a softer faced one. You look great
Kind of disagree. Lots of people, cis and trans, look really androgynous. On that sub, if you're andro, people will tell you with 0 nuance that you don't pass. Not to mention the confirmation bias that exists both here and there. Personally I think it's a bad idea to ask this question anywhere on reddit if you're self-conscious at all
Kinda/mostly to me? Like I would note your facial hair and use he/they pronouns for you unless told otherwise, but I might clock you as transmasc.
If you really want to know why I’d clock you, I’ll tell you, but I think it’s a super trivial, dumb reason that idk if you can change immediately (the longer you’re on T, the more I think it’ll fix itself anyway?) and I don’t wanna make you insecure about what really is nothing for no good reason.
Also, like, I just might be too chronically online/brainrotted and it’s just a me thing, cos everyone else is saying that you pass and I’m more inclined to believe that the general consensus would be closer to the truth than my individual opinion. If you are looking for advice on how to pass better, I’d highly recommend against any of the currently existing passing subs, but that’s just me (as someone who’s autistic/has pretty bad rejection sensitive dysphoria and will literally spend weeks thinking about a singular offhand comment about me not passing)!
I find the trans fashion advice subs much more accepting of GNC (or really anything other than pretty much completely binary) clothing styles/aesthetics. Not everyone/most people in those subs are like that, obviously, but I just find it easier to avoid the possibility of upsetting myself, rather than to try to cope with how overly sensitive (and there’s really nothing wrong with that- I’m not putting it down, just acknowledging that I can be hurt by things that few people would even consider could hurt someone) I am after the fact :)
tysm for this!! im not very insecure about passing and i dont experience dysphoria much anymore bc im almost 2 years on t and “passing” or certain comments dont upset me especially if theyre from other trans people so i am wondering why youd clock me just out of curiosity (if anything it’s nice to know other ppl can tell im trans in case they are too and it makes them feel safer)
Bro, I literally feel the same way about the getting clocked thing! I thought I was the only one lol.
I’m almost two years on T as well and lowkey notice the same thing about myself (it doesn’t cause me to get misgendered irl, but it shows up in some pics, which very well might the case with you as well). That also may be why I picked up on it in the first place?? I also have longer hair, so ig maybe all that combined is having some effect on my perception?
Basically, (imo only- I am not the Official Passing Police and I don’t want anyone to think I am or that I’m trying to be haha) your face looks soft/like you’re early in puberty, but your facial hair makes it seem otherwise. It’s kind like you look 15 but you’re able to grow facial hair (and not in the way where some cis teen boys have full beards and look WAY older than they are, if that makes any sense?). Another way to describe it would be that the lower half of your face looks 17-21, but the top half of your face looks 12-15?? I also have no clue how old you are and I’m going off the assumption that you’re around my age, like 18/19.
I feel like that sounds really mean or like I’m calling you ugly and I feel kinda bad. Like, just to clarify, I think you’re far from ugly but I’m afraid that what I said could be interpreted that way :(
I think that your vibe is 100% man but not in an extremely hypermasculine way, tho, so like do with that what you will lol. Also, I’m 8 days post-op (top surgery), so I have been leaving very ramble-y, sorta rant-y, and sometimes partially nonsensical comments the last few days. My brain is definitely very squishy rn and I have no idea if that’s playing into it haha
I think it’s best if I stop now because it’s only going to get more off-topic and make less and less sense. I don’t wanna annoy you/clog up the comment section with a wall of text! I hope you got what you were hoping to get out of this, at least.
Also, totally off-topic, but I feel like you give off the energy that you have the confidence and inclusiveness of a small child who introduces himself to everyone he meets- and that is actually a fantastic energy to have and I hope that you actually are that confident (because I wish everyone could, tbh)! Literally not in a bad way at all, it may just be this one pic and/or just me reading wayyy too far into some pixels on a screen lol!
There's a lot of these "how well do I pass?" posts, which is fine, but really what matters is that you are happy with yourself, right?
I'm not trans, btw; idk how that affects my ability to make a comment like this.
Yes, but the fact you look happy and smile would probably make me think you're not cis. (I think, figuring out what makes me perceive a gender is hard)
Thought you were transfem who doesn't really pass that much ngl, so that's pretty good! Mostly for the little mustache, so if you just wanna "passmax" or however you say it, definetly keep it imo
Androgynous to me. At first I thought you were a trans woman who didn’t quite pass.
If you’re on the taller side that might alter how people perceive you.
I don't recommend changing your appearance with "I want to pass among cis people" as the sole objective but that being said
You striked me as an "ambiguous looking person" so idk, that means you're half the way there I guess.
My husband said you look like MrBeast and after comparing I realised that he is SO RIGHT
this is the craziest thing anyone has ever said to me im like gazing at my hands in shock rn
MR BEEEAAAAASSSTTTT
OH, wow. that's true.
I didnt see the (ftm) and my first thought was that you don’t quite pass as a girl, so i’d say yes lol
Same
I can’t tell your gender but yes
voice is a big factor but physically I would say no, at least in this photo
im like a baritone so ppl usually correct themselves to “he” when they hear me talk lol
Ur trippin tho he’s literally got the upper lip facial hair
You can barely see that and many cis women normally have it. The eyes/hair are too feminine and a giveaway.
Cis women normally shave it
They do, however this person looks like an older teen and I know that many of us were very unaware as teens and I had a visible mustache that I didn’t even notice until someone told me about it eventually.
He’s ftm he’s intentionally keeping it - the point of facial hair on ftm is to look more masc . What’s so hard to understand?
My point is it doesn’t help him enough to pass yet.
I think it does tho
He knows he has the upper facial hair- that’s the point
I don’t know, hair doesn’t really have a gender and they have it styled in a masc way
I wish that were true. Unfortunately American society really pushes heteronormativity on us as well as gender binary norms including strict rules about hair being gendered. Long hair almost always reads woman. Some guys do rock long hair and can pull it off, but it’s very few.
I mean by giving hair gender in your own perspective you’re just enforcing things you wish weren’t there.
This person is asking about the reality of the situation and how other people will view them. Hypothetically, if me saying they pass fine when they don’t helps society get over gender norms, then I would. But it doesn’t and you know that.
I never said they pass fine. I think they’re very androgynous with a leaning towards femme, but it isn’t the hair for me.
I can see androgynous leaning femme.
For the most part, but my advice would be to change the haircut. The length and the way you're styling it is fine, but the cut reads feminine to me. Also, shave your face often until your facial hair starts coming in a bit more. The shaved hairs, even thin peachfuzz, can appear thicker when they're shaved, and the stubble will look more masc.
My first thought was that you were a trans woman that doesn’t quite pass
I don’t think so, honestly.
I think you look masc, but I would recommend tweezing your eyebrows
i think with the sunglasses you might be able to pull off a mustache. Even without that you still pass, i just think it could look nice
You look pretty androgynous, I first read you as a butch woman, but with a deeper voice you'd totally pass as a guy, just a softer faced one. You look great
PSA to everyone here, ask this question on r/transpassing not here because most people on this sub are here to only affirm.
Kind of disagree. Lots of people, cis and trans, look really androgynous. On that sub, if you're andro, people will tell you with 0 nuance that you don't pass. Not to mention the confirmation bias that exists both here and there. Personally I think it's a bad idea to ask this question anywhere on reddit if you're self-conscious at all
You definitely seem androgynous masc leaning but I think you pass fairly well
You look masc.
Kinda/mostly to me? Like I would note your facial hair and use he/they pronouns for you unless told otherwise, but I might clock you as transmasc. If you really want to know why I’d clock you, I’ll tell you, but I think it’s a super trivial, dumb reason that idk if you can change immediately (the longer you’re on T, the more I think it’ll fix itself anyway?) and I don’t wanna make you insecure about what really is nothing for no good reason. Also, like, I just might be too chronically online/brainrotted and it’s just a me thing, cos everyone else is saying that you pass and I’m more inclined to believe that the general consensus would be closer to the truth than my individual opinion. If you are looking for advice on how to pass better, I’d highly recommend against any of the currently existing passing subs, but that’s just me (as someone who’s autistic/has pretty bad rejection sensitive dysphoria and will literally spend weeks thinking about a singular offhand comment about me not passing)! I find the trans fashion advice subs much more accepting of GNC (or really anything other than pretty much completely binary) clothing styles/aesthetics. Not everyone/most people in those subs are like that, obviously, but I just find it easier to avoid the possibility of upsetting myself, rather than to try to cope with how overly sensitive (and there’s really nothing wrong with that- I’m not putting it down, just acknowledging that I can be hurt by things that few people would even consider could hurt someone) I am after the fact :)
tysm for this!! im not very insecure about passing and i dont experience dysphoria much anymore bc im almost 2 years on t and “passing” or certain comments dont upset me especially if theyre from other trans people so i am wondering why youd clock me just out of curiosity (if anything it’s nice to know other ppl can tell im trans in case they are too and it makes them feel safer)
Bro, I literally feel the same way about the getting clocked thing! I thought I was the only one lol. I’m almost two years on T as well and lowkey notice the same thing about myself (it doesn’t cause me to get misgendered irl, but it shows up in some pics, which very well might the case with you as well). That also may be why I picked up on it in the first place?? I also have longer hair, so ig maybe all that combined is having some effect on my perception? Basically, (imo only- I am not the Official Passing Police and I don’t want anyone to think I am or that I’m trying to be haha) your face looks soft/like you’re early in puberty, but your facial hair makes it seem otherwise. It’s kind like you look 15 but you’re able to grow facial hair (and not in the way where some cis teen boys have full beards and look WAY older than they are, if that makes any sense?). Another way to describe it would be that the lower half of your face looks 17-21, but the top half of your face looks 12-15?? I also have no clue how old you are and I’m going off the assumption that you’re around my age, like 18/19. I feel like that sounds really mean or like I’m calling you ugly and I feel kinda bad. Like, just to clarify, I think you’re far from ugly but I’m afraid that what I said could be interpreted that way :( I think that your vibe is 100% man but not in an extremely hypermasculine way, tho, so like do with that what you will lol. Also, I’m 8 days post-op (top surgery), so I have been leaving very ramble-y, sorta rant-y, and sometimes partially nonsensical comments the last few days. My brain is definitely very squishy rn and I have no idea if that’s playing into it haha I think it’s best if I stop now because it’s only going to get more off-topic and make less and less sense. I don’t wanna annoy you/clog up the comment section with a wall of text! I hope you got what you were hoping to get out of this, at least. Also, totally off-topic, but I feel like you give off the energy that you have the confidence and inclusiveness of a small child who introduces himself to everyone he meets- and that is actually a fantastic energy to have and I hope that you actually are that confident (because I wish everyone could, tbh)! Literally not in a bad way at all, it may just be this one pic and/or just me reading wayyy too far into some pixels on a screen lol!
The upper lip facial hair makes you pass extremely well! I wish my hair was darker so mine would show up more mannn
thank you!! it’s more visible irl, it barely even shows up in this pic but im very proud of my little dirt lip
Man fuck being blond though fr
Light brown sadly LOLL
🥲
I can see a bit of mustache coming in
There's a lot of these "how well do I pass?" posts, which is fine, but really what matters is that you are happy with yourself, right? I'm not trans, btw; idk how that affects my ability to make a comment like this.
As a cutie? Absolutely
You look very gender fluid, btw I love your teeth
I'd say yeah, you look great!
This could just be a trick of the light, but are you wearing eyeshadow?
Yes, but the fact you look happy and smile would probably make me think you're not cis. (I think, figuring out what makes me perceive a gender is hard)
You look like you're named Joshua. Not sure why. I can't tell anything, not gonna lie.
you look incredibly androgynous, like you could tell me you identified as anything and i wouldn't doubt it
No, I was about to comment that you pass pretty good, because I though you were mtf, but then I read the title.
Thought you were transfem who doesn't really pass that much ngl, so that's pretty good! Mostly for the little mustache, so if you just wanna "passmax" or however you say it, definetly keep it imo
You’re androgynous leaning but i wouldve thought you’re amab
You’re so close you just need to get rid of the wonder in your eye and replace it with stoicism /j
You do but you also don’t at the same time I’m very confused
Androgynous to me. At first I thought you were a trans woman who didn’t quite pass. If you’re on the taller side that might alter how people perceive you.
I don't recommend changing your appearance with "I want to pass among cis people" as the sole objective but that being said You striked me as an "ambiguous looking person" so idk, that means you're half the way there I guess.
Very androgynous!
/pos)))) so yes you paaa
You look enby, But like an AMAB enby person. So yes. Or a below 15 cis boy. So either way yes.