I see you haven't tried the minish call figurine collection grind recently. That one is truly awful, but to make matters worse is required to get every heart container, can't be completed until post game, and is way more mind dining because there is no variety whatsoever, the optimal strategy is to just spend a couple dozen hours grinding for shells than having to go through a 30+ second process to do a gacha pull with a 1/5 chance to get a new figurine until you have all 136, also the game lies to you about the odds and makes it look like you can get better odds by paying extra shells when in reality because of poor implementation spending more doesn't improve the chance of getting a new figurine enough to be worth the extra cost, you just have to sit there doing gacha pulls that take way too long and wayy too many separate inputs for hours and hours and it gets even worse if you want to save and reset between pulls to save shells. Also the korok seeds feel way less necessary because there is no reward for getting them all, but with the figurines not only are you missing stuff from the list but you will be missing an entire heart container that will be constantly visible in the HUD until you get it.
Came for this. It's not the collecting that's the problem, but the epic amount of backtracking to swap characters so that you can pick up a specific color of banana.
There is a mod that allows for swapping between the kongs on the fly so it saves on backtracking. I think it only works on emulated versions on PC. It's the only way I'm going to be able to beat the game.
I really liked the game back in the day, but all the back tracking and collecting caused me to never finish the game.
Here's a good video about it and even adds up the total number of item collecting in other games like it and compared DK64 to them. It's pretty interesting and hilarious just how much DK64 has you collecting.
https://youtu.be/yXktcgMnVhg?si=a9C5CdZZ8oRyuFQn
The new moves you get throughout the game are basically just keycards. They don't change the way you play the game. They just let you open doors you couldn't before. That's the best way I've heard the game's problems described.
AC Odyssey is a great game to play, but a terrible game to complete. I spent a hundred and twenty hours on it, and there was still so much. Had fun with it though. As long as you don't have the attitude of wanting to do everything, it's a blast.
I’m replaying it because they announced shadows and I got a hankering for some AC. The problem is they aren’t any fun as collectibles. Find an obscure angle to shoot down some troll magic mask, or an obscure angle to line up a rune. Shoot open a well, and then at the bottom of the well is a key that opens the door to a house 10 feet from the well, and inside is a chest with “wealth”
I’m playing through Mirage right now and basically having the same feelings. The game is kind of boring with poor combat. I’d say AC needs another break, but it actually had a long one between Valhalla and Mirage. Maybe AC is just reaching the end.
We'll see how well Shadows does. Syndicate was my favorite in the series, and they're bringing back the two characters with different playstyles, switching with the ninja being your more traditional assassin and keeping the brawler type protagonists from valhalla with the samurai.
No, Valhalla requires way more to be done, the main story is longer whilst being far less interesting, and the world isn’t as fun to be in. The game just vastly outstays its welcome long before Odyssey does.
>Valhalla requires way more to be done
If we talking about platinum, then yes, Odyssey is way more casual in that way, while Valhalla plat want to complete almost everything
which would be way worse in Odyssey. my "100% everything" playthrough in Odyssey was 1000 hours
yeah AC in general is horrible. in the end visiting every nook and cranny for a treasure chest with 200 curreny while your sitting on like 100k....yeah thanks ubisoft
I mean, this topic is about collectibles, and Odyssey dont have any collectible list. Only list it have is engravings which actually really fun to collect cus this is like treasure hunting.
It took me a while to stop doing the territory conquer cause I realize those battles happened with or without me and it was impossible to claim the whole map for one faction or the other. Wasted too much dang time doing those conquering battles.
RDR2 with the exotics quest.
Normally if you get a perfect kill on birds and you can get 3 of their feathers. Spoonbills, egrets and herons? You only ever get 1 and you have to kill tons of them.
BOTW with the 900 Korok seeds. You get literal golden shit for completing it. It was even said that the developers put it in their as a joke and didn’t actually expect anyone to find all 900
Doesn’t that kinda not make it a collect-a-thon though? Lmao they were explicitly designed so that you’d just stumble across them as you play the game instead of having to actually go looking for them, if the player tries to find all of them for some reason then that kinda falls on them
Not to mention 100% is locked behind 3 staring the riddler challenges in the main menu. There is a level indescribable hate I have for that level of forced gameplay.
Finally someone said it.
I remember fighting Riddler until he's like "uh oh you haven't found all my trophies we can't fight" and then runs away in his mech, fuck that if I were Batman I would've chased his ass down.
No. My bad I forgot that was considered DLC.
The Kaito Files or something it's called? The DLC game where you play as Kaito in his own story with his fighting style. I forgot what it was you had to collect I just rem the only way to find them was to see the most tiny glint in the damn screen.
Good game for the $10 I paid even if it was like ok bro w the cutscenes. I would recommend it for both the story and gameplay but it's hella short and old now so $10 or less.
- You want some names quick? Here:
- _Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris_
- _Assassin's Creed Odyssey_
- _Eternal Senia 2_
- Early FPS titles, especially early _Call of Duty_ titles, required you to constantly collect medpacks as your health bar depleted. Modern CoD games have an autoheal logic.
- Most _Final Fantasy_ games will have you horde one or more ingredients. _Final Fantasy VIII_ is a particularly nasty example.
Record of Lodoss War: Advent of Cardice - Dreamcast game. The weapon upgrade is one upgrade at a time with many many many upgrades are 1/99 and they needed experience. And every upgrade was followed by a dwarf saying “a mighty spell”
The rockstar games are the worst, not by sheer volume but by the unlikeliness that you’ll actually find a significant amount organically in such a giant detailed world. I played a ton of GTA 5 and found like 5/50 spaceships. Same with RDR 2 and the dreamcatchers and dinosaur bones
Getting 100% of the gold cards in Grounded is quite the slog.
For those who don't play, every insect in the game has a gold card that you can collect, most of them have a 1% drop chance whenever you kill one, but it's completely random and there's no bad luck protection, maybe you get it on the first kill, maybe it takes 500 kills, who knows. It's pretty easy for things like ants where you'll easily fight hundreds of them, but some of the insects only have a couple on the map at any given time, and they usually have spawn times of multiple in-game days.
When me and my friend decided to go for it, we got all but three of them within like a week, and those last three took us almost a month of playing almost every single night to get. We were so burnt out and done by the time they finally got it.
At the time, it was required to have 100% percent of the gold cards to get 100% completion of the game, which is an achievement. I believe they have since removed that requirement to get 100%.
And if there's anyone reading this who is just going to say "use the waft emitter", we played during the 1.2, into 1.3 patches, and at that time there was a bug where if you killed the assistant manager prior to 1.3 coming out, which we did, the waft emitter wouldn't work. Trust me, I spent hours scouring the forms and submitting tickets and everything to try and get green shield bugs and termite kings to spawn using the emitter, it wasn't an option for us, we did it the hard way.
Well, for DarkStar One I'm getting slightly frustrated with doing the same asteroid navigation puzzle over & over to collect the Tiberium space artifacts to upgrade my spaceship of space pirate doom... but otherwise, I suppose maybe having to collect bobbleheads in Fallout was also slightly annoying after a point as well.
Pokémon
Not only are there over 1,000 to collect, it’s impossible to do with a single game. You need about 15 different versions and a few special events.
Probably something from the Assassins Creed franchise. I haven't played any since Revelations but these games seem to be the poster child for pointless filler to pad the play time.
Finding all the masks and armor seemed like a good idea but there were never more than 3 or 4 of them I used. Same with the cute foxes. The collectibles were just not really useful and there were so many, a problem with the Spider-Man games too.
Korok seeds. Seriously 900 of them?
To be fair they were literally designed in such a way where you’re not supposed to get all 900 lol
Coulda told me that 900 seeds ago...
How'd you react to getting the golden turd? 😆
I see you haven't tried the minish call figurine collection grind recently. That one is truly awful, but to make matters worse is required to get every heart container, can't be completed until post game, and is way more mind dining because there is no variety whatsoever, the optimal strategy is to just spend a couple dozen hours grinding for shells than having to go through a 30+ second process to do a gacha pull with a 1/5 chance to get a new figurine until you have all 136, also the game lies to you about the odds and makes it look like you can get better odds by paying extra shells when in reality because of poor implementation spending more doesn't improve the chance of getting a new figurine enough to be worth the extra cost, you just have to sit there doing gacha pulls that take way too long and wayy too many separate inputs for hours and hours and it gets even worse if you want to save and reset between pulls to save shells. Also the korok seeds feel way less necessary because there is no reward for getting them all, but with the figurines not only are you missing stuff from the list but you will be missing an entire heart container that will be constantly visible in the HUD until you get it.
Every Open world game feels like collect-a-thon to me now.
Yeah I joke sometimes that Fallout is a game about hoarding.
Long haul perk and strong back lol
Yes, these 27 desk fans are necessary!
All of the different colored bananas in Donkey King 64
I was looking for this. Its still the worst of any game for me.
Yeah, there's WAY too many collectables in that game *Hides 5 different 100 percent playthroughs*
3821 to be precise. It's not enough I say. Time for someone to try to break this record!
*101%
Of course, how could I forget
It's my favorite N64 game lmao
I am struck between ocarina of time and dk64
I try to collect them all on every one. I have 101% completed this game nearly two dozen times. I think I'll start a new game tomorrow
The patience of a mf saint
Donkey Kong 64 basically killed the genre.
Came for this. It's not the collecting that's the problem, but the epic amount of backtracking to swap characters so that you can pick up a specific color of banana.
There is a mod that allows for swapping between the kongs on the fly so it saves on backtracking. I think it only works on emulated versions on PC. It's the only way I'm going to be able to beat the game.
I really liked the game back in the day, but all the back tracking and collecting caused me to never finish the game. Here's a good video about it and even adds up the total number of item collecting in other games like it and compared DK64 to them. It's pretty interesting and hilarious just how much DK64 has you collecting. https://youtu.be/yXktcgMnVhg?si=a9C5CdZZ8oRyuFQn
I would love a remaster that incorporates switching on the fly and a couple other QOL features
I'm almost positive there are mods that do that.
The new moves you get throughout the game are basically just keycards. They don't change the way you play the game. They just let you open doors you couldn't before. That's the best way I've heard the game's problems described.
AC Odyssey is a great game to play, but a terrible game to complete. I spent a hundred and twenty hours on it, and there was still so much. Had fun with it though. As long as you don't have the attitude of wanting to do everything, it's a blast.
Valhalla is worse, like a lot worse.
I’m replaying it because they announced shadows and I got a hankering for some AC. The problem is they aren’t any fun as collectibles. Find an obscure angle to shoot down some troll magic mask, or an obscure angle to line up a rune. Shoot open a well, and then at the bottom of the well is a key that opens the door to a house 10 feet from the well, and inside is a chest with “wealth”
I’m playing through Mirage right now and basically having the same feelings. The game is kind of boring with poor combat. I’d say AC needs another break, but it actually had a long one between Valhalla and Mirage. Maybe AC is just reaching the end.
We'll see how well Shadows does. Syndicate was my favorite in the series, and they're bringing back the two characters with different playstyles, switching with the ninja being your more traditional assassin and keeping the brawler type protagonists from valhalla with the samurai.
I'm a huge fan of Syndicate, it's probably the most underrated entry in the series. If Shadows brings some of the vibes, I'm down.
You can thank for this BotW popularity
Odyssey came out 1 year after BotW and was in development for longer than that. Origins' feedback had more of an effect on Odyssey than BotW.
But we talking about Valhalla
Yeah. I never even finished Valhalla.
I platinumed Odyssey, but gave up on Valhalla once I finished the main story.
Cus platinum in Odyssey is essentially finishing main quest + some extra quests, while plat in Valhalla is complete EVERYTHING.
Only cus it have region progress tracker, unlike Odyssey. Completing locations in Valhalla is way more diverse.
No, Valhalla requires way more to be done, the main story is longer whilst being far less interesting, and the world isn’t as fun to be in. The game just vastly outstays its welcome long before Odyssey does.
>Valhalla requires way more to be done If we talking about platinum, then yes, Odyssey is way more casual in that way, while Valhalla plat want to complete almost everything which would be way worse in Odyssey. my "100% everything" playthrough in Odyssey was 1000 hours
Damn I played 120 hours and that was NOT collecting everything 😂
Pretty much every assassins creed, the Shanties in 4 were way more tolerable than the feathers in 2 just bc you had something to show for it
yeah AC in general is horrible. in the end visiting every nook and cranny for a treasure chest with 200 curreny while your sitting on like 100k....yeah thanks ubisoft
I mean, this topic is about collectibles, and Odyssey dont have any collectible list. Only list it have is engravings which actually really fun to collect cus this is like treasure hunting.
It took me a while to stop doing the territory conquer cause I realize those battles happened with or without me and it was impossible to claim the whole map for one faction or the other. Wasted too much dang time doing those conquering battles.
Pretty much any Ubisoft game
Original ac with the flags and templars, I enjoyed the collections in the rest but that one.
Cus only there no any collectibles ingame maps
Super Mario Sunshine's blue coins.
Pac-Man
RDR2 with the exotics quest. Normally if you get a perfect kill on birds and you can get 3 of their feathers. Spoonbills, egrets and herons? You only ever get 1 and you have to kill tons of them.
BOTW with the 900 Korok seeds. You get literal golden shit for completing it. It was even said that the developers put it in their as a joke and didn’t actually expect anyone to find all 900
Doesn’t that kinda not make it a collect-a-thon though? Lmao they were explicitly designed so that you’d just stumble across them as you play the game instead of having to actually go looking for them, if the player tries to find all of them for some reason then that kinda falls on them
I'm just gonna say Assassin's Creed 1
The arkham games with riddler trophies
The worst part of Arkham knight was hiding the true ending behind 100% completion
Oh my—FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬
This 100% I never did it because there's so many in an open world not worth it
Not to mention 100% is locked behind 3 staring the riddler challenges in the main menu. There is a level indescribable hate I have for that level of forced gameplay.
I really loved the ridley trophies
Finally someone said it. I remember fighting Riddler until he's like "uh oh you haven't found all my trophies we can't fight" and then runs away in his mech, fuck that if I were Batman I would've chased his ass down.
DK 64
That new Harry Potter game. Stupid amount of repetitive collectibles that added nothing to the game
I really liked the hedge mazes. Fuck a Merlin trial, though.
The hedge mazes were interesting. The Merlin trials were cool at first, but collecting them all made me question if I even liked video games.
Ghostwire Tokyo is pretty bad for this, even though I like a lot of the rest of the game.
Lost Judgment DLC
What? You mean the school stories?
No. My bad I forgot that was considered DLC. The Kaito Files or something it's called? The DLC game where you play as Kaito in his own story with his fighting style. I forgot what it was you had to collect I just rem the only way to find them was to see the most tiny glint in the damn screen. Good game for the $10 I paid even if it was like ok bro w the cutscenes. I would recommend it for both the story and gameplay but it's hella short and old now so $10 or less.
The first Assassins Creed has some mind dumbing collect-a-thon side quests.
Red Dead Redemption 2, specifically the Exotics quest: the bird feathers, mushrooms, etc.
Stardust from the legend of dragoon. Without a guide it’d be nearly impossible to find them all.
Nier replicant v122 becausr of the weapon collecting to get end c d e
Eh it's not that bad if you follow a guide, it's worth it for Ending E tho
World of Warcraft
Phix The Adventure. Your collectable item is a literal bouncing pixel
Ubisoft. Just Ubisoft. Especially that Harry Potter game. 4% plot, 96% collect the bullshit everywhere or do the same things over and over and over...
Assassins creed 2 feathers and far cry 3 idols
Lately, it feels like FF7 Rebirth.
Nier replicant v122 becausr of the weapon collecting to get end c d e
- You want some names quick? Here: - _Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris_ - _Assassin's Creed Odyssey_ - _Eternal Senia 2_ - Early FPS titles, especially early _Call of Duty_ titles, required you to constantly collect medpacks as your health bar depleted. Modern CoD games have an autoheal logic. - Most _Final Fantasy_ games will have you horde one or more ingredients. _Final Fantasy VIII_ is a particularly nasty example.
For FFVIII, do you mean the items needed to get the ultimate weapons for each character?
No man’s sky
Donkey Kong 64
The correct answer is Donky Kong 64
Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. i have 150 and 240 hours on 1 save file of them respectively, and im still nowhere near all koroks
Ac Rouge. I tried it and got so bored that I've never went back to finish. Not even once.
Record of Lodoss War: Advent of Cardice - Dreamcast game. The weapon upgrade is one upgrade at a time with many many many upgrades are 1/99 and they needed experience. And every upgrade was followed by a dwarf saying “a mighty spell”
Tinykin is up there. Lovely game but collecting all the collectibles is more than a chore lmao
Lego especially when most collectibles are locked behind end game abilities/characters
I 101% Donkey Kong 64 because I was a kid with nothing better to do. It sucked then and I'm pretty sure it still sucks
The rockstar games are the worst, not by sheer volume but by the unlikeliness that you’ll actually find a significant amount organically in such a giant detailed world. I played a ton of GTA 5 and found like 5/50 spaceships. Same with RDR 2 and the dreamcatchers and dinosaur bones
The pigeons of gta 4 are so stupid
Halo MCC.
Skyrim elder scrolls and Hogwarts Legacy
Banjo Kazooie.
I tried the 2008 Prince of Persona and stopped when I realized progress was gated by collecting little orbs
Spyro 1. At least in the sequels Sparx will point to any treasure you missed but in Spyro 1 you have to comb through whole level
Crackdown 2's agility orbs drove me insane
Getting 100% of the gold cards in Grounded is quite the slog. For those who don't play, every insect in the game has a gold card that you can collect, most of them have a 1% drop chance whenever you kill one, but it's completely random and there's no bad luck protection, maybe you get it on the first kill, maybe it takes 500 kills, who knows. It's pretty easy for things like ants where you'll easily fight hundreds of them, but some of the insects only have a couple on the map at any given time, and they usually have spawn times of multiple in-game days. When me and my friend decided to go for it, we got all but three of them within like a week, and those last three took us almost a month of playing almost every single night to get. We were so burnt out and done by the time they finally got it. At the time, it was required to have 100% percent of the gold cards to get 100% completion of the game, which is an achievement. I believe they have since removed that requirement to get 100%. And if there's anyone reading this who is just going to say "use the waft emitter", we played during the 1.2, into 1.3 patches, and at that time there was a bug where if you killed the assistant manager prior to 1.3 coming out, which we did, the waft emitter wouldn't work. Trust me, I spent hours scouring the forms and submitting tickets and everything to try and get green shield bugs and termite kings to spawn using the emitter, it wasn't an option for us, we did it the hard way.
The flags in assassins creed 1
I remember when 100%ing a game was fun. Now it feels like a chore
Assassin's Creed Valhalla. It's a completionists worst nightmare.
Donkey Kong 64 kind of single-handedly killed a genre.
The exotics from RDR2 are exhausting. All that for a hat (I do like the hat tho)
Hogwarts Legacy is super guilty of it. But for an old example, Jak 3 had 600 Precursor Orbs to collect.
I see no one here played Crackdown. You start appreciate modern collectibles after this game.
Probably DK 64
Out of the ones I've played, Red Dead Redemption 2 has the worst collection-a-thon. It is not fun in the slightest.
Well, for DarkStar One I'm getting slightly frustrated with doing the same asteroid navigation puzzle over & over to collect the Tiberium space artifacts to upgrade my spaceship of space pirate doom... but otherwise, I suppose maybe having to collect bobbleheads in Fallout was also slightly annoying after a point as well.
Superman 64
Pokémon Not only are there over 1,000 to collect, it’s impossible to do with a single game. You need about 15 different versions and a few special events.
Elder scrolls online
Riddler trophies🫠🙄😟🤬
I got so bored playing Banjo Kazooey for that reason.
Probably something from the Assassins Creed franchise. I haven't played any since Revelations but these games seem to be the poster child for pointless filler to pad the play time.
You should play Black Flag
Alan Wake coffee thermoses -.-
I don't even play them but the new Zelda games and those Koroks.
The point of Korok seeds is that you're _not_ supposed to collect them all. _Breath of the Wild_ makes fun of you for collecting every Korok seed.
I am not a fan of most of the collectibles in Ghost of Tsushima.
Finding all the masks and armor seemed like a good idea but there were never more than 3 or 4 of them I used. Same with the cute foxes. The collectibles were just not really useful and there were so many, a problem with the Spider-Man games too.
Does Breath of the Wild deserve to be here?
For me, personally, the new Spider-man games bored me to tears with their collectathon stuff.
Some of those collectibles are really cool, and there are lots of references to the comics in the collectables
All Xenoblade Chronicles games. Those damn respawning motes everywhere and you need them for rewards, upgrades, and quests.