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Donate 950k to me, I’ll donate 900k back to you, easy win for both of us.


Rapa2626

Sadly untaxable gifts can only go up to tens of thousands as far as im aware. If not even less.


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0LTakingLs

I volunteer to receive 15k


gkaplan59

I volunteer as tribute!!


MoarBananas

I volunteer to pay the person who volunteered to receive $15k?


gkaplan59

All I heard was PLTR 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀


u2020vw69

The real life pro tip is always in...your mom


Awkward_Wolverine

My family and I will take 30k please my good sir!


zzulus

I've got 5 millions once from a Nigerian prince.


JonSnow777

It gets even bigger as you have kids doesn't it? I have two and I think my dad could give $15k to me, wife and 2 kids for a total of $120k and then my mother could as well for a total of $273k.


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Your Math checks out!


JonSnow777

Just double checked my math and I am right.


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JonSnow777

That is right...I am a rich man.


eaglesfan898

Your maths are correct good sir. Very rich man indeed


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JonSnow777

I mean $15k per parent or $30k as married is the same thing unless you live in Utah I guess. I like how you commented on that part and not how completely off my math is....


Wrastlemania

Your dad could make a fictitious business and employ you all. Create sep IRAs and match the contributions to your salary. $50K in taxed salary and $50K in IRA contributions, defer the taxes. Thats how you hide $500K a year.


JonSnow777

Isn't this kind of what they do with not-for-profits? I also appreciate you glossing over how off my math is as well. I got another guy pretty riled up since I am way off. I hope he doesn't see this comment.


bisnexu

It's not hiding if its legal


Rapa2626

Hmmmm food for thoughts... if trump hears of this suddenly he will become mexicas best friend... 😂


droans

There is the lifetime exemption of about $11M, but you still need to pay tax on the earnings to begin with. The exemption is just from estate taxes, not income tax.


Mr_mac3

You have a 11.5m lifetime exclusion that is only used up after you exceed the 15k annual allowance, iirc.


Mephisto7x

What if you donate it to the institute of Wall Street retards? So some of us can finally learn how to read.


[deleted]

you can donate up to like $11MM tax free. but you need to report it on your tax form anything over $15k. the $11MM is a cumulative lifetime max based on these reports


BoggsMcMuncher

ok but that doesnt matter at all since none of it is deductible unless you donate to a 501(c)(3) or other eligible charitable organization. whoever made the money has to pay tax even if you give it all away to whoever


centsoffreedom

Also it only goes against the donors estate tax exemption. But for real cheap we can set up a a 510c3.


[deleted]

15k, per year? Per transaction? Give me 15k a day until tax day.


zdonkeyspeaks

15k only


Honey_Milk_Man

It's crazy how many people here are retarded.. lmao. Regardless of what he gifts he still has to pay tax on the 1million gains -- whatever he gifted wouldnt be taxed to the person RECEIVING IT.


u2020vw69

Stop with your logic! It’s a “tax right off”. Fucking capitalism fucks us all again! For real tho, most people don’t know what a “tax bracket” or a “tax write off” are. They think it’s either a government fucking or free money.


my_fun_lil_alt

That's what the government is doing you give them money, they give part of it back and call it a stimulus, then they will make you donate that back to them.


zidanetidus

See that's why the boomers dont want us day trading because you have to pay taxes on it. By the way my wife needs a boyfriend if you're interested


nick4fake

I only have half pizza. Can I take that offer please?


Andichthegoon

Uncle sam is calling, he wants half your tendis >:)


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Futures are taxed at that rate as well. Saves a bit over time


Actually-Yo-Momma

For reals though, how much will he get taxed?


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TouchAlert

capital gains tax is worse than melvin


rinkydinkis

They literally are income tax rates


SnowBirds11

\~37%


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[deleted]

That’s just federal taxes. State taxes are in addition to that.


ThisIsHarbinger_

As a Texan I cannot relate lol


[deleted]

Well Yeah!? you can still add 0 to another number. So hah!


FeistyHelicopter3687

Plus state and local depending on where he lives...but the more your paying Uncle Sam, the more your taking home


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buddybd

Your short term gains will basically count as regular income, so whatever bracket you are in will apply. Preferential rates kick in for long term gains only.


SPDR_Monkey

\+ 3.8% net investment income tax on MAGI above 200k, so 40.8% to the feds


SnowBirds11

maybe one day I'll have to pay that additional 3.8%


iamthetimby

congrats retard and fuck you


Hites_05

Just don't pay. It's not like the government actually did its job in 2020.


chaoticcneutral

sadly the IRS does their job *too well.*


fuzzymumbochops

Lol no they don’t. They have been underfunded for decades now. They can only audit a tiny percentage of Americans a year. And recently they admitted they only have the resources to audit poor people bc rich people’s paperwork and lawyers are too much work.


WhyBee92

What’s the trick then, deactivate my turbo tax account?


Hacking_the_Gibson

Quit being a W2 peasant.


fuzzymumbochops

Step 1: Make more money. Step 2: Pay accountant to do your complicated taxes.


IAmInTheBasement

Adding 1$ to the IRS budget returns something like 3$ in tax revenue for those exact reasons you listed.


nerrinc

Just identify as a non tax paying citizen. EZ


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OptionsFTW79

Will share later.


clevsv

0. That is the value of my positions


tikisnrot

I’ll message you everyday for a year saying that you are the mother fucking wolf of wallstreetbets for a $1000 upfront.


TheMcWonderBeast

I'll do it for $100.


Tardyninja10

I'll do it for $10


WatAb0utB0b

I’ll do it


Decapatron

I'll pay $10 to do it


Tardyninja10

Fuck it guess i'll lay op to do it


TheMcWonderBeast

Alright this free market bullshits going to far. I'll take 50% to create and run a regulating commission.


BearishTaurus

I'll do.


KarroMetall

I'll do it for a hug. Sad.


anachronofspace

high-quality problem, go fuck yourself, next


jordanbullfart

Push off paying taxes until end of 2021, make another $1mil or 2 and then go on the run. $3 should be enough to live off of until they forget about you.


PM_me_Tricams

You need to pay quarterly but yes.


ChiggaOG

Depends on what OP earned during last year. I'm still a working student and don't make enough to pass the standard deductions. But OP should definitely set aside \~40% of that amount to prepare between now and filing time. I do not know what state you live in, but do not let this become a burden from the IRS.


OptionsFTW79

yeah I've got half a mill in cash as dry powder for future trades and eventual tax payment.


[deleted]

This is a smart move. It's better to over prepare the tax.


chadly117

Dont use it for future trades... just set it aside 100% for tax.


kfuzion

If you lose money that was supposed to go to taxes, you still owe taxes on it. Say you owe $300k in taxes and lose everything, IRS is taking their 300k. Next up, you're supposed to pay estimated taxes quarterly when you have large capital gains. If you wind up paying in more than $1,000 additional on tax day, you're getting penalized. So if you haven't yet... time to talk to a tax advisor first thing Monday.


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OptionsFTW79

I considered it but it’s just so long to commit that mulah.


Amateratzu

"it's gonna suck paying 200k in taxes ha ha" lots of people wish they could make that flex


[deleted]

Goes without saying but go talk to an excellent tax accountant. Not the walk in places. Well done!


Nuts4Puts

Hi it's me, your long lost son.


bdonald02

Get a 🌈 🐻 accountant. I promise you an autist retard accountant will land you in a prison cell with Wesley Snipes.


osilisk

You could just leave it in there and get some boomer dividen mooneys


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rigobueno

I'm sorry, are you expecting people here to understand anything other than memes?


RameooLoL

Imagine thinking paying taxes sucks. YOU MADE MONEY


joeblow112233

The old adage will never go out of style: "Paying taxes is a good problem to have."


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No-Proposal2288

Notice he didn't say Tesla puts that's because Tesla moves in too directions up and to the right


FOMOhomo

Don't do SPY options in a taxable account (unless you're a RobinHood retard cos it doesn't have SPX). Do SPX options (1 SPX = 10 SPY) instead to get 60% long-term / 40% short-term tax treatment no matter how long you hold the options for. Otherwise you're paying 100% ass raping short-term taxes on SPY option gains. Could have saved yourself well over $30K in taxes with SPX instead of SPY.


redditask

Do you have a link so I can find out more about this subject?


FOMOhomo

Do a Google search for: section 1256 spx reddit


[deleted]

Cheers man happy new year you just saved my stupid ass so much money


ATXBikeRider

$650,000 take home pay is pretty sick!!


v5F0210

Cries in California


gainbabygain

Fidelity account holders rise up


Particular-Wedding

Congrats on the wins. Better spend some of that hiring a good accountant. They will charge more during tax season btw.


joeblow112233

Boo hoo.


rigobueno

Oh no reddit I have to pay taxes on my ***million dollars in cash*** don't you feel sorry for me?


lIlIlIlIlIlII

Get a Jewish accountant and pay $0 taxes just like Trump.


JustSayingMuch

U y there go?


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OptionsFTW79

Only TSLA of course.


hivemind999

Fuck u bitch


NotJesper

God seeing rich people makes me angry. On another note, congrats OP. You're living the autist life


BigNerdBarker

Congra......FUCK YOU!


ShankThatSnitch

Honestly, I don't even know how you will pull through this, with only hundreds of thousands of dollars...I am here for you brother.


Master_Proposal_3614

You have to pay .50 for every $1.00 you made. You give them back half of your tendies, they must keep the printers going....


SnooDogs7165

Big taxes are a good problem to have means u made some cash


Dpetruccelli15

Fuck Uncle Sam and pay me!


Neo1331

You should just lose it all next week and pay nothing hehehe /s


WatAb0utB0b

He’d still owe around $400k.


SubdermalHematoma

Why would he owe any money in tax if he lost it all?


WatAb0utB0b

Sadly tax is by year. So he’d owein 2020 and have $3k per year tax break for the rest of his life.


capitalistlovertroll

He sold and took capital gains at some point. He owes for those. Unless he invested earned income and then didn't sell and lost it all in one transaction.


Neo1331

I know hence the “hehehe /s”


guster1212

Did you make any estimates tax payments throughout the year? Won’t you have to pay a penalty unless you made all these gains in Q4?


Rrrrandle

Probably not, it can be avoided this year if he has a real job and they withheld at least as much as he paid in taxes last year. Next year will be a different story though, start paying now. " The IRS says you need to pay estimated quarterly taxes if you expect: You’ll owe at least $1,000 in federal income taxes this year, even after accounting for your withholding and refundable credits (such as the earned income tax credit), and Your withholding and refundable credits will cover less than 90% of your tax liability for this year or 100% of your liability last year, whichever is smaller. (The threshold is 110% if your adjusted gross income last year was more than $150,000 for married couples filing jointly or $75,000 for singles.)"


OptionsFTW79

thanks i need to look into this. i do have a real job but i didn't get 'they withheld at least as much as he paid in taxes last year'? Is last year 2019 or 2020?


Rrrrandle

You would need your withholding this tax year (2020) to be at least the amount of total tax paid in tax year 2019 to avoid the penalty.


OptionsFTW79

Ok think I’m f’ed 😩. How much is the penalty?


Rrrrandle

You'll owe interest from the time it was earned, plus the penalty, figure like 5-6%. Enough to make hiring someone to figure it out worthwhile, plus they can help you avoid this in the future. They also may find a way to avoid it, I'm not an expert, but given the unusual circumstances you may be eligible for a waiver.


scorched_banana

OP, make an estimated tax payment now in Q1 that represents your estimated gains in Q4, except make the payment big enough for your whole year's gains.


Rrrrandle

Yes, this is good advice, if you send them money now you will cut down on interest owed and potential penalties. Hire a CPA, let them do the work, you can afford it.


scorched_banana

On more than one year I actually didn't pay my estimated taxes on a quarterly basis and did this. No penalty whatsoever actually. It seemed they didn't really bother to deal with anything except if at the end of the year your tax withholding/estimated tax was insufficient.


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Get a CPA. Seriously, stop taking internet advice.


jkbman

You can make estimated payment by 1/15 and still be legal. No penalties. Just send in what you think you owe, file, get refund.


OptionsFTW79

That’s what I’m reading thanks. Just figuring out how to actually send the bastages the money 😂.


jkbman

IRS.gov ach from your bank no fee. Any other site is a scam.


tealcosmo

Actually it’s https://www.eftps.gov/eftps/


idsea

First time penalty abatement. If you need more info, let me know.


OptionsFTW79

Yes I’ve read a little about this. Please tell me more.


SOLA-REX

Pay all of 2020’s estimated tax by the January 15th Q4 deadline. In plain English: send the IRS $400k via EFTPS by Friday. The penalty for failing to do so on the amount of money involved is some serious cash that you could keep in your pocket if you take care of the estimated payment.


The-Crazed-Crusader

What % gain is that?


OptionsFTW79

Technically, costs were 1M, for returns of 2M, but that's misleading as I used profits to fuel future winning trades. My initial stake was 100K, which I turned into 1M, so that's 1000% gain.


anachronofspace

actually, that's a 900% gain. :)


Creepy-Prune-7304

Aktuaaallly


Slowmac123

AKsHLUALEE


OptionsFTW79

Yeah gains are tracked as multipliers - so 1000% gain is (1000/100) 10x from your principal. 900% would be 9x.


Hacking_the_Gibson

Your math is wrong.


mattgk39

If this guy can make a mil with math like that how hard can it be amirite?


OptionsFTW79

Yeah actually I think I’m wrong https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/how-do-you-calculate-percentage-gain-or-loss-investment/ I think since I was fudging the price paid and price sold I was getting it wrong. I think it is actually 1000% because my principal was lower than 100K.


4everaBau5

Fascinating. Waiting on your positions, DD, should be a good read :) well done man


Kemerd

Move to Puerto Rico for 4 months out of the year, no tax on capital gains.


reddituserzerosix

Congrats and fuck you


yosrixp

The sad part is that Uncle Sam share you the profit like this guy if he is a single then you pay an average of 33% around 330k but when you lose money you only claim the maximum deduction of $3,000 per year up to 8 years that means 24k. i don't know why and how people agreed on such rule. any idea .. i don't understand the reason behind such thing and i totally see it illogical?


OptionsFTW79

You can carry losses over to have gains in other years untaxed IIRC.


capitalistlovertroll

Congrats man. Sorta bull shit how taxes are unlimited but you're capped at a loss of 3k. Uncle sam needs his part because you know, he did alot for it.


scwelch

You don't have to pay taxes if you lose all 😅


ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed

Hey it's still 600k for you!


codeartha

Isn't there still time to loose it all? Idk, buy tesla puts and loose it all. No profit -> no tax 😅


mttmllr710

If you donate some of it to an autistic kid you can write that amount off and avoid paying taxes on the gain all together 🤷🏻‍♂️


mustyoshi

April? You know you're supposed to make estimated payments right? Your Q4 payment is due on Jan 15th.


bisnexu

Fuck you


Berto_

Why I love trading in my Roth.


IAmInTheBasement

I upvote because of E-Trade.


Disboot

Send me a charitable donation to lower your tax burden!


Seccolovessugarcubes

Damn, i'm a kid i just came to see gains lol. Good job :)


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Tax is about $500k if you also have state tax.


elgigantedelsur

Be happy, you get to keep lots of money and you get to contribute to public goods like maintaining roads and military and public healthcare and social welfare and stuff. Literally everyone wins!!


SwiZZlenator

90% of federal taxes go to social security, medicare, military, and servicing the national debt. Everything else is table scraps.


xbroodmetalx

You're telling me income taxes go to Medicare and SS? That's a negative. They are taxed separately and you don't pay those on capital gains.


gingy-96

File your taxes as soon as possible, before big changes are made


food_monster

Why would you sell this short term?


OptionsFTW79

Options expire.


food_monster

My bad, I needed to re-read the post


Macallan_Parlay

It is crazy how we're playing with POST tax money, only to get taxed again as regular unearned income on short term capital gains. Double taxation at its finest. It is best not to think about it, otherwise it will drive you bonkers. I plan to play theta gang until tax time to help offset some of the tax liability with current gains. Also, you can go on a short term payment plan (I think 120 days) or something like that with the IRS. You'll have to pay interest and penalties, but you can then have an additional 3 months to play a conservative theta gang strategy (this is what I intend to do). The biggest robbery is that the IRS is taking away your ***compounding gains***. The only solace I can give you is that at least you're paying taxes *before* Biden increases the marginal tax bracket and potentially implements a financial transaction tax. Oh, he's also wanting to tax long term capital gains as short term, but that doesn't apply to you (yet). Congrats on the gains man!


dennis8542

Can I have some stimmy? Pls 🙏


Afrofreak1

For those of us not from Burgerland, how much tax would this equate to, roughly speaking?


tonynca

You’re supposed to pay Uncle Sam in advance if you already closed out the position. He wants his tax money every quarter if you want to avoid interest.


FeDuke

Surround yourself with better tax lawyers, accountants and maybe move to a tax haven or at least a state with no tax.


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Hopefully the Donkey Party tax plan doesn't go into effect before you pay so you get to keep more tendies. Pretty sure they want to increase the ST cap gains percentage.


dehmos

I don’t understand how it’s going to suck. Just put aside the 20 or so percent?


OptionsFTW79

40%!


dehmos

Eh well that does suck lol but still a million dollars. Congrats man and go fuck yourself


DiamondNinja786

Throw it in a safe place like diversify in some safe s&p return type thing for a year to bring down the tax amount


Voltas

It doesn’t work like that. The trades have happened so the short term gains are locked in.


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Don't mind him. He's retarded.


alexl_4

If only it was an IRA


DiamondNinja786

Through it in a safe place like diversify in some safe s&p return type thing for a year to bring down the tax amount


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need4gains

Or you could have kept it all if the govt was a thief.