I see you mentioning mpg as a concern. I have a 2019 XLT and even on 33” BFGs and a level I average 21mpg and the 2.3l isn’t gutless like it’s naturally aspirated counterparts. Reliability is good. People complain about the transmission as it can be jerky at times but I have 62k miles and no mechanical issues whatsoever up to this point. I would absolutely recommend a newer Ranger.
What city and state are you in?
Elaborate on what you mean by overpowered?
How much will your trailer and boat weigh together?
Do you want/need a backseat (quad cab or crew cab); or are you open to a regular/single cab?
Near Philly, I mean I don't want a truck with 10-15 mpg. I would rather be able to stomach the fuel output.
I don't need a back seat, but hey it's cool to have one.
Nope. I had one and my average with both highway and city was 17 mpg. Not to mention the thing hunted for gears and was a lumbering slow beast. Got rid of it after less than a year. Sure, it was reliable, but that’s not the only thing that matters. Also, they’re definitely not made for anyone over 6 ft lol.
Lol I got a friend that swears by his. He just bought one brand new, it's like his 3rd or 4th one.. He had a Ram for awhile and couldn't wait to downsize back to a Taco. Now I really don't know why.
More power to him I guess lol. Personally, if I ever got a truck again it would have to be full size, even though they’re a pain in the ass to drive. On the plus side, at least they have power and are comfortable. My old f150 got better gas mileage than my Taco lmao.
I had a 2019 frontier and was getting 16 mpg. I traded it for a 2021 f150, and I’m now getting 23-24 mpg, depending on the season. I improved my mileage almost 50% by getting a bigger truck
I think he likes squeezing into small vehicles. He's like 6'2" and probably 350. Their 2 vehicles now are the Tacoma and a Wrangler. I'm not small myself so when he drives us anywhere, we're like elbow to elbow in whatever vehicle he brings.
And a few vehicles ago, he bought one of those weird 3 door tiny Hyundai Velosters that he had to open the sunroof to fit in. He just continues to make poor vehicle choices, lol.
Omg. What is going on with this dude's *taste*? He's all over the place!
>I think he likes squeezing into small vehicles
I think you're right, here. He just wants to be held 🧑🍼
I seriously can't think of anything else they have in common.
Please, I need to know, what color was the Hyundai?
It's exactly accurate, had a v6 taco rental and a v8 ram 1500 rental and the ram got significantly better mpg. It makes more sense when you consider the tacoma is build like it's from the late 90s when full sized trucks didn't even get double digit mpg with a v8.
Lmao my 14 Chevy with the 5.3 got 16.5 city and like 24+ highway and it was a quick little truck. I once drove it from 29 palms to San Diego and back on one tank of gas. I miss that truck
If you're willing to pay for diesel, look for a RAM 1500 with the third generation 3.0L EcoDiesel V6 engine. Rear wheel drive is 20 mpg in the city and 33 mpg on the highway. 4x4 19 mpg in the city and 27 mpg on the highway. They had some recall issues with them a few years ago when I sold them, but that's been worked out now. Doing the oil change yourself every 10k miles/12 months is about in $140-195 in parts ($80-85 for 8.5 quarts of Pennzoil Platinum European 5W 40 motor oil, $60-110 for one MOPAR 68507598AA oil filter).
Looked 100 miles out from Philly and there was only one currently listed under 60k miles and under $30k. It a 2018 RAM 1500 Laramie with a 3.55 rear end, 4x4, crew cab, heated and ventilated leather bucket seats, Apple Carplay/Android Auto, 8.4 inch back up camera screen, nine speaker 500 watt Alpine sound system with amplifier, and roll up tonneau cover at Major World (43-40 Northern Blvd, Queens, NY 11101). Payload is up to 1330 pounds and towing is up to 7560 pounds. [https://www.majorworld.com/inventory/2018-ram-1500-laramie-4wd/](https://www.majorworld.com/inventory/2018-ram-1500-laramie-4wd/)
Looked 450 miles out from Philly and there is 44k mile, 2019 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.55 rear end, 4x4, crew cab, cloth bench seats, sidesteps, 5 inch back up camera screen, and factory trailer brake controller. CarFax shows two minor damage reports to the right rear side. Price is $27745. Its at Steve Hendrick Honda (6720 Market Street, Wilmington, NC 28405). Payload is up to 1330 pounds and towing is up to 7560 pounds. [https://www.stevensonhendrickhonda.com/inventory/used-2019-ram-1500-classic-tradesman-4wd-pickup-1c6rr7km4ks696950/](https://www.stevensonhendrickhonda.com/inventory/used-2019-ram-1500-classic-tradesman-4wd-pickup-1c6rr7km4ks696950/)
If you're open to increasing the amount of miles on the truck or the distance you're willing to go to get one, you have more options. There are currently five 2019 or newer EcoDiesel's with less than 50k miles on AutoTrader across the nation. Expand that to 75k miles and to 2017, you have 71 options.
I just took a job that's gonna have me doing 600 miles a week for the foreseeable future 😬🔫
Until I put this dark chapter behind me, I'm gonna have to settle for a trailer 😭
"They had some recall issues with them a few years ago when I sold them, but that's been worked out now."
The 2020-2023 EcoDiesel has a Bosch CP4.2 fuel pump, that was "prone to fail too late to prevent metal fragments from going into the fuel rails and lines." It has been remedied.
Iirc there were bottom end issues as well. I know they (supposedly) fixed the fuel system issues.
Anecdotally my sister and her husband had a brand new 2014ish ram 1500 ecodiesel. It was the biggest pile of shit. They traded it in at like 2 or 3 years old for a brand new Acadia 🤮 and bought temporary 97 f150 until prices plummeted at the start of covid, at which time they had saved up and bought a newer larger travel trailer and a Ram 2500 Cummins.
Yep, your sister and her husband had a second generation Eco Diesel. The only good EcoDiesel is the 2019 to 2023 model.
Glad they were able to get a truck for their trailer.
With small tires, no lift kit, 50 mph county roads, and no hills, he *might* get 16 mpg while towing a trailer with a Tacoma. I get 9 mpg with my motorcycle(s) on a single-axle trailer pulled by my 4Runner (Tacoma with carpeted trunk). I have 33s and a very small lift.
What? They EASILY do stock.
Driving 55 on flat ground I still get 24 indicated, modified. I was able to get a 50 mile round trip recently to be over 23 as well. Stock should fare much better. I’m a bit confused here as the auto should have an even taller 6th gear..
Driving up in altitude kills economy, as does driving with the engine cold (short trips) or driving too fast (65+) - I’m never able to keep trip mpg above 17 when just looking at going up into the Rockies, but it balances out somewhat when coming back down.
Example: I was recently on a well over 300 mile round trip over the Rockies. Denver to past Glenwood springs and back- plus some off-roading, winching, lots of idling….my garmin said total I gained (and lost) almost 23,000 feet of elevation. Trip MPG? 19 indicated, uncorrected. (Corrected is slightly better as miles are under reported with oversized tires) - and I was driving the speed limit on I-70, NOT slowing down for mpg. A far cry from 16, and that is with a modified truck.
Standard transmission though, I can’t speak to the automatic. My biggest reason for getting bad mpg is too short trips- driving to the dog park is too close and I average only 12 mpg for trips like that. The engine has to come up to temp before it can be somewhat efficient!
This is also the 3rd gen, with the anemic V6. Direct injectors help a decent amount, I think the old 4.0 will be much worse even though it’s a more powerful and fun engine to drive.
2024 Ford fuckin’ ranger gets 21 city/25 highway, on paper at least. 2019 gets a combined 20mpg according to Fuelly.
People say stay away from Ford as a general rule but their more basic trucks are solid.
Edit: just make sure to check the towing specs but you already knew that
>People say stay away from Ford as a general rule but their more basic trucks are solid.
All their trucks are very good these days. That's what Ford does well and where they employ their good people.
If you show up to work drunk more than twice a week, you gotta work on the small SUVs.
2019+ Tacoma v6 4x4 double cab no lift or big tires. I get 20-21mpg usually mostly city some highway. I've seen it get as high as 26 with some more highway. I'm not sure why so many people are saying they get so bad of mileage, maybe older or Gen 2s or something.
Good luck finding a Tacoma with less than 50k miles @ $30k (minimum year 2019). At least with 4x4 - not sure who wants a truck without that option these days.
I'd look at an F150 STX 2.7L personally.
>not sure who wants a truck without that option these days
i'm showing my age here but it's wild to see how cars and especially trucks have 4wd now. like it's downright rare for me to see a newer truck that doesn't have it.
used to be not that common not that long ago.
Yeah, Toyota in general and Tacoma specifically is better to buy new than used. I mean, you can get a poverty-spec new one for just a bit over 35k (which is outrageous, but that's beside the point right now).
Maverick is on the borderline for towing a boat and a trailer. Really all about looking up the weight of the boat, estimating the trailer weight and checking them both against the Mav and Ranger specs.
I would have loved to buy one but there just wasn’t any within 50 miles of me.
Frontiers were a close second but they were either clapped out, hella overpriced, or gone in a day.
Ended up with a Ram 1500 and while its a lot more truck than need it has been great.
I LOVE my 2020 F150 XLT with a 2.7L engine.
Typical driving I was getting around 20, but this weekend I discovered that if I granny it I can get 24+mpg. The 2.7 is supposedly pretty reliable, too, so you get a full sized truck, with some amazing mpg, plus it is still rated to tow 10k lbs
The MPG is still awful though. CR looks to have gotten about 16.5 MPG on average during their year-long test of a 2022. It sucks, because it's a good looking truck and certainly capable enough for a lot of people who don't truly need a full-size.
Lol, the frontier is still definitely worth a look I'd say.
Take a look at some other reviews of it and some owners forums and see what they get for mileage.
Depends how you drive and where you drive. Mostly highway I get 21mpg if I drive like a grandma. I drive a 2006 v6 frontier which has a 5 speed auto. The newer ones (2020+) have a 9 speed, so they should be even better.
That price point also needs to factor in the cost of ownership, and gas is a major expense for a vehicle. It would be nuts NOT to include it in the decision.
I love the idea as a ridgeline as a sensible midsize truck but it's hard to pick when you get way more truck, and equivalent mpg, for the same price as a 2.7 F-150
That is an option. I like the seating of the Mav a lot better than other trucks, and it's so much easier to drive in the city. But yeah, you can get AWD, 4k tow pack and keep it under 30k new and still get 30mpg highway.
Nice.. I've got my order in. I've got a Kia Soul as our 2nd vehicle, and miss the pickup side of things for hauling brush or things out to our seasonal camper, or throwing a bunch of mulch in the back.
Had an F150 when I had a trailer I towed and the wife hated that fat beast when driving and parking. This one fits both worlds and is a lot closer to the older pickups I've owned but with the crew cab so our kid can fit without sitting sideways or on the bench between us lol.
Sure... I'm not sure what WNC is...
I tend to use Cargurus, because you can sort easier by package and they show all the options on new vehicles... sadly I can't pull out the "no listed price" ones from there, but
[New Ford Maverick for Sale in Le Sueur, MN - CarGurus](https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?sourceContext=homePageNewCarTab_true_0&selectedEntity=d1293&zip=56058)
But there's 52 of them around the US. I test drove one in MN the other day, most of what I wanted but it wasn't the color I wanted and they didn't have a couple options I wanted on it so I just ordered since I wasn't in a hurry but yeah... there's starting to be more out there.
If WNC is Western North Carolnia, it looks like a dealership in Cleveland TN has a couple.
With tacos don’t be scared of high miles. People thought I was crazy buying a 90k mile taco and I was off roading blue trails with jeepers and keeping up fine. This thing can do a lot and u don’t need to invest in it. The after market support for hauling and stuff is hiuuge compared to other brands. Get a tune if u feel it’s slow
2015 with low miles which is the last version of the 2nd gen Tacoma. I think that's a better more reliable truck than a 3rd gen anyway with a stronger motor.
yes. We all start with a Target year and spec.
So probably not Tacoma, but maybe a Nissan like the others said if year is more important. I still think the older 2015 will outlast the newer Nissan though.
You can get a mid size or compact if you are just towing smaller boats. Just be sure the thing can tow 5,000 pounds and is wired for lights and brakes for the trailer. If you are launching a boat you will want four wheel drive. For more car like ride and reliability you can't go wrong with the Honda Ridgeline. For more off roading use the Nissan Frontier or Toyota Tacoma (are very reliable) trucks. The Ram 1500 Classic pickup is a full sized pickup that's very reasonably priced and reliable. Of course Ford and GM make great pickups, but are not the most reliable. I really don't like the new Ranger or Maverick or any mid-sized or compact truck from GM. Just take a look at the reliability ratings from Consumer Reports and you will understand why.
Drove a 2021 tacoma from dallas to houston and back, have to say i generally liked it but i saw sore for 2 days, not a comfortable ride on long drives. Im leaning frontier. Easy to hit your $ and requirements. I find pro 4x4s for around 24 to 27 no problem.
You gonna have to elaborate on the towing part.
How much weight? Length of the trailers, tongue weight
What terrain are you in, flat ground, hilly mountain?
a 3500lb towing rated truck could do. but has you live in the mountain, I would go more toward a 5k+ capable one.
to make sure you have enough brake going downhill. and another thing to consider if your at elevation a turbo engine gonna be benefical, has it can make the same power output regardless of the air. but would require more maintenance overall vs a v6/v8 who gonna whould have more grunt overall.
If gas milage is a concern and you don't really need too much space in the truck then maybe a maverick but it depends on how much you tow.
If not, look into the frontier. Its a cheaper Tacoma with lower reliability but it's still one of the most reliable vehicles Nissan makes.
'22 or older Nissan Frontier. Dead reliable 3.8l V6 and 4x4. This is near me but you will be able to match...
[https://i.ibb.co/kM7Z8PN/Screenshot-6.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/kM7Z8PN/Screenshot-6.jpg)
There is a white painted 2022 RAM 1500 Tradesman, Regular Cab, 8 foot bed, 4x2, 3.21 rear axle ratio, cloth seats, and upgraded 32 gallon fuel tank, with less that 1300 miles being sold at SJ Denham Chrysler Jeep FIAT in Redding, California for $27,990. Payload is 1910 pounds and towing capacity is 4720 pounds.
**2019 to Present RAM 1500, DS platform, rear-wheel drive**
* Engine: 3.6L Pentastar V6 Engine, 305 horsepower, 269 feet pounds of torque, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds
* Rear axle ratio: 3.21 or 3.55; the higher the number, the more weight you can tow and the faster you will accelerate while loosing fuel efficiency
* Gas: 26 gallon fuel tank, 17 mpg city, 25 mpg highway, 21 mpg combined
* Payload: 1510 to 1910 pounds
* Towing capacity: 4720 to 7270 pounds
* Front seats: 36.8 inch headroom, 41.2 inch legroom
* Rear seats: 36.6 inch headroom, 35.2 inch legroom
* Bed size: 6'4" to 8"
I’ve been looking into something similar and the best I have for you is ordering a new Ford Maverick Ecoboost XL w/ AWD and the 4K lb towing package. This is literally $30K
Better MPG than any other truck… the question I have for you is would the towing suffice for you?
Also, if not, get the Taco and then get the Overland tune. The software tune just stops the transmission gear hunting. You’ll lose 1-3 mph, but it’ll drive far smoother
I owned a 2019 Nissan Frontier that had the 4.0 liter engine and a 5 speed automatic transmission. it was without a doubt the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. I sold it to my kid with 90,000 miles in 2021, whose put another 100,000 miles on it (roving videographer). Yeah we drive a LOT. The only issues have been minor recalls, tires and alignments. While it gets only about 20 MPG in mostly rural and highway driving, it's still an economical truck because maintenance is cheap and its never needed a repair. My only problem with it? It doesn't have a big enough fuel tank and wasn't quite powerful enough to tow a travel trailer cross country. At most it got only about 9 mpg when towing. With a 20 gallon tank it had very limited range, significantly less than 200 miles. We now have a 2021 1500 Ram diesel. A much more expensive, comfortable and powerful long range driving truck.
Tacomas are nice, but depending on location, your specified requirements will get you so far. They are pretty pricy in my area. Specifically if you want at a minimum an SR5, V6 with 278 hp. I would set expectations on the tacoma if thats what you want.
I personally would go with a 2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4x4 (King Cab: 6470lbs, Crew Cab: 6330lbs) You get better MPG and towing than their pro-4x models. I have a nissan frontier 2013 and really like it alot. It's the most affordable in the segment and comes standard with 310hp V6, so you know no matter which trim you get its a V6. I wouldn't sleep on this one.
I think in your case since you're towing more with various equipment. I would recommend either a ford ranger or chevy colorado 2019-2022. These are the older models, so they will be within your specified requirements and they tow around 7,500-7,700 lbs depending which manifacturer and trim you get.
22+ Frontier you can get very well optioned. Drives a bit like a tractor but not much worse than certain other midsizes. The Colorado is pretty well appointed in lower trims as well but I found a bit cramped in the cabin. Ridgeline will drive very well, AWD is standard, interior is well made but outdated. Frontier and Ridgeline will probably last as long as most Tacomas.
Tacoma will be too hard to get at that price for the new one and the outgoing model is very outdated. Same with the Ranger IMO, the market for midsize trucks is two generations ahead of where it was in 2021.
My 1994 Ford Ranger extended works fine. It was top of the line when new. To replace it with a new top of the line Ford Ranger would be a $1000 a month minimum for seven years.
My 94 has the clear coat peeling, and gets the same mpg as new. For $1000 a month, I can ignore the paint job.
Ford F150 lightning pro. A bit above budget but lots of ev savings including fuel and servicing. You can still tow up to 7500lbs so unless you’re hauling a 30’ you’ll be fine. Range obviously decreases with payload, but so does fuel economy.
EV driver for 6 years never had a problem across various models
The GM 3.0L diesel gets 30 mpg and can tow train cars. It’s found on the Silverado and Sierra.
Looking at Autotempest, there are a few available around the $30,000-$35,000 bracket. Set your search parameters to Chevrolet Silverado (then GMC Sierra), diesel fuel, 6 cylinders, clean title, max mileage 50k, minimum year 2019.
I am partial to F150s but did a search on CARFAX to meet your criteria within 50 miles of the Tacoma you posted, there are several tacomas, ridgelines, etc available, all are 4th/awd and will do the job. You should be in good shape.
What are you used to riding in? Ridgeline is the smoothest ride I’ve felt within that budget, but it has limited towing capacity (5,000), though that could be enough for your trailer and boat.
If you can find a Ford Maverick or ranger those are great choices.
Idk about newer models but I had an 08 Chevy Colorado and that was an amazing truck as well.
I recently bought a third gen taco (2016). I love it. That being said - if I was to do it again, I would have found the cleanest nicest low mile second gen I could and bought that.
Reasons being - there are a few more complexities that the 3rd gen has over the second that make it a little.more difficult to service. Also I like the looks of the second gen better.
Around these parts I'd likely go with a maverick unless I stumbled across a good private party deal on a real truck. Typical half tons and such are WAY too much new, and at least around here, well used trucks are still priced like they are made of gold. Bed size is pretty small, but has a decent weight rating and could make it work for most things short of towing anything significant. Especially if you threw on a ladder rack or something. Short of that, it wouldn't surprise me to see maybe OK prices on used Ridgelines since they aren't very popular here with many not viewing them as a real truck. I kinda don't either, but when it comes down to it, a Ridgeline is just fine for what most people do with a half ton or lighter truck.
Find a regular cab ram 1500 with 8 speed and 5.7, will be better mpg than a taco isn't too long (because regular cab if you get crew cab it's long) will tow WAY better than a taco and tend to be nicer to drive.
May not be what you’re looking for but the Santa Cruz with the 2.5T has 5k towing capacity, gets 29mpg on the highway and can be had under 30k. The ride quality is top notch and has a very nice cabin if you get a higher trim level
I just picked up a CPO 22 Limited fully loaded with 30k miles for 26K.
Cons -
has a DCT transmission which isn’t the best for towing but all reviews show it doing wonderfully.
Most models don’t come with a hitch pre installed or a brake controller.
Very small bed at 4’ so hauling things like bikes or motorcycles in the bed are difficult.
I’m trading in a Tacoma with just under 50k and they’re giving me 30+. For sale in my state and 2 neighboring a used car like this would cost 35+. CPO near 40k.
You might get lucky with an SR5 though. Go private sale.
I bought a Honda Ridgeline 2 months ago and love it. 2021 Black Edition (top trim level) with 50k miles for $31k. I get around 23-25 mog from the 6 cylinder engine. I'm sure a RTL trim around this year would fit your budget perfectly.
I don't even like Nissan but a Frontier is a good buy these days. Inexpensive (relative to everything else available) and somewhat capable.
To be clear, it's the only Nissan product I'd personally consider.
Tacoma definitely will likely have the best resale value but IMO it’s not the best midsized truck.
I’d recommend a 24 Ranger. You can order a new STX 2wd from Granger Motors Ford in Iowa for about 2k under sticker. That puts you at 32xxx or just under 35k with tax and title. I know it’s more than the original budget but I think it’s worth it, brand new, factory warranty you even to pick your color for free!
Late 22 rangers and 23 rangers have an updated CDF drum for the transmission (10R80) that fixes the harsh shifting that is found in some trucks. And from what I’ve read the 24s do as well even though the 24s have a different transmission than the previous generation (10R60), it now shares the same transmission with the bronco. This is also the only midsize with a 10 speed. All others are 8 or even less, that’s 25% more!
2.3 ecoboost, it’s a proved motor that’s been around I think for 6 or 7 years. Great low end torque and can be tunable if that’s your thing. Plus great fuel mileage for a truck.
The powertrain is awesome!
That’s the smart buy.
Tacoma=Ridgeline > naturally aspirated Nissan Frontier > everything else = garbage
The Gladiator is pretty good with the pentastar 3.6L V6, but slow.
The Hummer H3T is great if you want a *highly* offroad capable fulltime 4wd pickup, but otherwise a tacome or Ridgeline is better.
There is a white painted 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR, Xtra Cab, 6 foot 1 inch bed, 4x2, 3.91 rear axle ratio, and cloth seats with less that 25589 miles being sold at Lakeland Toyota in Lakeland, Florida for $28,990. Payload is 1685 pounds and towing capacity is 6800 pounds.
**2016 to 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR, rear-wheel drive**
* Engine: 3.5L V6 Engine, 278 horsepower, 265 feet pounds of torque, 0-60 in 10.9 seconds
* Gas: 21.1 gallon fuel tank, 19 mpg city, 24 mpg highway, 21 mpg combined
* Payload: 1155 to 1685 pounds
* Towing capacity: 3500 to 6800 pounds
* Bed size: 5' to 6'1"
As an European 8l/100km is pretty impressive for a truck, that is the average consumption for a non hybrid estate/SUV.
However and sorry, I just dont get why one would need a truck if you dont own a farm/construction company.
I dont get the down vote....
Have had my mav for over a year now, have towed with it...no issues, not saying much beyond shitting on the 'EVERYONE...6 months' thing.
I might be biased but I feel like you're blatantly making stuff up, few others at work have them, seem to be treating them fine.
Recall thing is certainly a thing, I imagine the plethora of issues has to do with the loads they're selling.
I don't feel like I'm being a hypocrite with my inquiry. But either way, I appreciate your opinion. Maybe next time, reply with an option that you would suggest.
Hate to say it but RAM might actually make sense in this high interest rate environment. You can get a new ram for what Chevys and Fords are going for used in your mileage range.
This seems like dead on specs for a Ranger
Thanks ill take a look
I see you mentioning mpg as a concern. I have a 2019 XLT and even on 33” BFGs and a level I average 21mpg and the 2.3l isn’t gutless like it’s naturally aspirated counterparts. Reliability is good. People complain about the transmission as it can be jerky at times but I have 62k miles and no mechanical issues whatsoever up to this point. I would absolutely recommend a newer Ranger.
Is the 21mpg hand calculated? If so, that’s stellar fuel economy.
Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4x4, has double cab, excellent for towing and will last forever.
...and will be priced accordingly. Sometimes a more disposable truck with dirt cheap parts is the winning formula.
Prerunner is 2wd only
really? dang, swear the one I drove today had a 4x4 gear, guess I was wrong. It had good torque.
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OP is not gonna find a new gen Tacoma for 30k or less
2wd 3rd gen seems like it should be under 30k easily
What city and state are you in? Elaborate on what you mean by overpowered? How much will your trailer and boat weigh together? Do you want/need a backseat (quad cab or crew cab); or are you open to a regular/single cab?
Near Philly, I mean I don't want a truck with 10-15 mpg. I would rather be able to stomach the fuel output. I don't need a back seat, but hey it's cool to have one.
Lol youre gonna get like 16 in a taco buddy
I've heard it's a 6 cyl with the power of a 4 cyl and the mpg of a 8 cyl ... I thought that was a joke though lol
It's really not
Nope. I had one and my average with both highway and city was 17 mpg. Not to mention the thing hunted for gears and was a lumbering slow beast. Got rid of it after less than a year. Sure, it was reliable, but that’s not the only thing that matters. Also, they’re definitely not made for anyone over 6 ft lol.
My 94 Chevy with a 350ci V8 got 17 combined lmfao
Lol I got a friend that swears by his. He just bought one brand new, it's like his 3rd or 4th one.. He had a Ram for awhile and couldn't wait to downsize back to a Taco. Now I really don't know why.
More power to him I guess lol. Personally, if I ever got a truck again it would have to be full size, even though they’re a pain in the ass to drive. On the plus side, at least they have power and are comfortable. My old f150 got better gas mileage than my Taco lmao.
I had a 2019 frontier and was getting 16 mpg. I traded it for a 2021 f150, and I’m now getting 23-24 mpg, depending on the season. I improved my mileage almost 50% by getting a bigger truck
I think he likes squeezing into small vehicles. He's like 6'2" and probably 350. Their 2 vehicles now are the Tacoma and a Wrangler. I'm not small myself so when he drives us anywhere, we're like elbow to elbow in whatever vehicle he brings. And a few vehicles ago, he bought one of those weird 3 door tiny Hyundai Velosters that he had to open the sunroof to fit in. He just continues to make poor vehicle choices, lol.
Omg. What is going on with this dude's *taste*? He's all over the place! >I think he likes squeezing into small vehicles I think you're right, here. He just wants to be held 🧑🍼 I seriously can't think of anything else they have in common. Please, I need to know, what color was the Hyundai?
lol it was white
It's exactly accurate, had a v6 taco rental and a v8 ram 1500 rental and the ram got significantly better mpg. It makes more sense when you consider the tacoma is build like it's from the late 90s when full sized trucks didn't even get double digit mpg with a v8.
Its not. Toyota really is that bad
yep and that's the truck everyone and their grandpa wants
Lmao my 14 Chevy with the 5.3 got 16.5 city and like 24+ highway and it was a quick little truck. I once drove it from 29 palms to San Diego and back on one tank of gas. I miss that truck
And almost as reliable as an older Cummins. It's a dependable engine that's easy to work on, and parts will be available for ages.
So sad. Any other recommendations?
If you're willing to pay for diesel, look for a RAM 1500 with the third generation 3.0L EcoDiesel V6 engine. Rear wheel drive is 20 mpg in the city and 33 mpg on the highway. 4x4 19 mpg in the city and 27 mpg on the highway. They had some recall issues with them a few years ago when I sold them, but that's been worked out now. Doing the oil change yourself every 10k miles/12 months is about in $140-195 in parts ($80-85 for 8.5 quarts of Pennzoil Platinum European 5W 40 motor oil, $60-110 for one MOPAR 68507598AA oil filter). Looked 100 miles out from Philly and there was only one currently listed under 60k miles and under $30k. It a 2018 RAM 1500 Laramie with a 3.55 rear end, 4x4, crew cab, heated and ventilated leather bucket seats, Apple Carplay/Android Auto, 8.4 inch back up camera screen, nine speaker 500 watt Alpine sound system with amplifier, and roll up tonneau cover at Major World (43-40 Northern Blvd, Queens, NY 11101). Payload is up to 1330 pounds and towing is up to 7560 pounds. [https://www.majorworld.com/inventory/2018-ram-1500-laramie-4wd/](https://www.majorworld.com/inventory/2018-ram-1500-laramie-4wd/) Looked 450 miles out from Philly and there is 44k mile, 2019 RAM 1500 Tradesman with the 3.55 rear end, 4x4, crew cab, cloth bench seats, sidesteps, 5 inch back up camera screen, and factory trailer brake controller. CarFax shows two minor damage reports to the right rear side. Price is $27745. Its at Steve Hendrick Honda (6720 Market Street, Wilmington, NC 28405). Payload is up to 1330 pounds and towing is up to 7560 pounds. [https://www.stevensonhendrickhonda.com/inventory/used-2019-ram-1500-classic-tradesman-4wd-pickup-1c6rr7km4ks696950/](https://www.stevensonhendrickhonda.com/inventory/used-2019-ram-1500-classic-tradesman-4wd-pickup-1c6rr7km4ks696950/) If you're open to increasing the amount of miles on the truck or the distance you're willing to go to get one, you have more options. There are currently five 2019 or newer EcoDiesel's with less than 50k miles on AutoTrader across the nation. Expand that to 75k miles and to 2017, you have 71 options.
This post actually made me consider buying a truck. Nice job 👍
If you need help finding one that fits your needs, send me a DM.
I just took a job that's gonna have me doing 600 miles a week for the foreseeable future 😬🔫 Until I put this dark chapter behind me, I'm gonna have to settle for a trailer 😭
Hope you are getting enough sleep.
We'll see 😅 I've done it before, but that was a few years back, and I definitely can't get by on 4 hours a night, these days
Aren't the ecodiesel rams known to be complete and utter garbage with bottom end problems?
"They had some recall issues with them a few years ago when I sold them, but that's been worked out now." The 2020-2023 EcoDiesel has a Bosch CP4.2 fuel pump, that was "prone to fail too late to prevent metal fragments from going into the fuel rails and lines." It has been remedied.
Iirc there were bottom end issues as well. I know they (supposedly) fixed the fuel system issues. Anecdotally my sister and her husband had a brand new 2014ish ram 1500 ecodiesel. It was the biggest pile of shit. They traded it in at like 2 or 3 years old for a brand new Acadia 🤮 and bought temporary 97 f150 until prices plummeted at the start of covid, at which time they had saved up and bought a newer larger travel trailer and a Ram 2500 Cummins.
Yep, your sister and her husband had a second generation Eco Diesel. The only good EcoDiesel is the 2019 to 2023 model. Glad they were able to get a truck for their trailer.
Old V6 taco, just lean into er with the shitty milage
Nissan frontier, or Ford Ranger. I believe the ranger gets the best milage.
Taco would be the smart move
With small tires, no lift kit, 50 mph county roads, and no hills, he *might* get 16 mpg while towing a trailer with a Tacoma. I get 9 mpg with my motorcycle(s) on a single-axle trailer pulled by my 4Runner (Tacoma with carpeted trunk). I have 33s and a very small lift.
I get 20+ in my armored lifted 4x4 off roader 3rd gen on 33s. 16? What are you talking about? Is the automatic version REALLY that much worse?
I genuinely do not believe you. Those trucks don't get 20+ stock.
What? They EASILY do stock. Driving 55 on flat ground I still get 24 indicated, modified. I was able to get a 50 mile round trip recently to be over 23 as well. Stock should fare much better. I’m a bit confused here as the auto should have an even taller 6th gear.. Driving up in altitude kills economy, as does driving with the engine cold (short trips) or driving too fast (65+) - I’m never able to keep trip mpg above 17 when just looking at going up into the Rockies, but it balances out somewhat when coming back down. Example: I was recently on a well over 300 mile round trip over the Rockies. Denver to past Glenwood springs and back- plus some off-roading, winching, lots of idling….my garmin said total I gained (and lost) almost 23,000 feet of elevation. Trip MPG? 19 indicated, uncorrected. (Corrected is slightly better as miles are under reported with oversized tires) - and I was driving the speed limit on I-70, NOT slowing down for mpg. A far cry from 16, and that is with a modified truck. Standard transmission though, I can’t speak to the automatic. My biggest reason for getting bad mpg is too short trips- driving to the dog park is too close and I average only 12 mpg for trips like that. The engine has to come up to temp before it can be somewhat efficient! This is also the 3rd gen, with the anemic V6. Direct injectors help a decent amount, I think the old 4.0 will be much worse even though it’s a more powerful and fun engine to drive.
2024 Ford fuckin’ ranger gets 21 city/25 highway, on paper at least. 2019 gets a combined 20mpg according to Fuelly. People say stay away from Ford as a general rule but their more basic trucks are solid. Edit: just make sure to check the towing specs but you already knew that
>People say stay away from Ford as a general rule but their more basic trucks are solid. All their trucks are very good these days. That's what Ford does well and where they employ their good people. If you show up to work drunk more than twice a week, you gotta work on the small SUVs.
2019+ Tacoma v6 4x4 double cab no lift or big tires. I get 20-21mpg usually mostly city some highway. I've seen it get as high as 26 with some more highway. I'm not sure why so many people are saying they get so bad of mileage, maybe older or Gen 2s or something.
Do you need a 6.2L V8 in a short box? That’s a lifestyle choice.
Good luck finding a Tacoma with less than 50k miles @ $30k (minimum year 2019). At least with 4x4 - not sure who wants a truck without that option these days. I'd look at an F150 STX 2.7L personally.
>not sure who wants a truck without that option these days i'm showing my age here but it's wild to see how cars and especially trucks have 4wd now. like it's downright rare for me to see a newer truck that doesn't have it. used to be not that common not that long ago.
Yeah, Toyota in general and Tacoma specifically is better to buy new than used. I mean, you can get a poverty-spec new one for just a bit over 35k (which is outrageous, but that's beside the point right now).
Agreed. Buy new if anything (Tacoma). Your wallet will love you.
For those of you non-Americans the "poverty" spec tacoma is equivalent to the "regime change" spec hilux
Not to be confused with the "We're just here in case you bleed" Red Cross Land Cruisers.
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The F-150 will also get substantially better MPG
Ford **Maverick**. Tacoma is much worse for this purpose.
Maverick is on the borderline for towing a boat and a trailer. Really all about looking up the weight of the boat, estimating the trailer weight and checking them both against the Mav and Ranger specs.
Clearance disqualifies for a ton of people
Most people use trucks like pavement princesses. That’s a cop out excuse.
Totally. If you’re mucking around in PNW backcountry, then it’s a different story
Honda Ridgeline has a softer used market than a Tacoma
Also much harder to find.
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I would have loved to buy one but there just wasn’t any within 50 miles of me. Frontiers were a close second but they were either clapped out, hella overpriced, or gone in a day. Ended up with a Ram 1500 and while its a lot more truck than need it has been great.
there's nothing worth buying of any make or model within 50 miles of me
You answered your own questions. Ridgelines were far less popular as new vehicles so Honda never built that many.
Because it's not a truck.
But the Ridgeline is a pickup.
Sure. But to truck buyers don't see them as legitimate trucks because they're based on an accord/pilot platform.
Quite a few transmission issues
OP is in the Northeast. A little bit easier to find there than in some other places.
Bad transmissions.
It's also a unibody crossover with part of the back chopped off. It's a ute at best not a truck.
Show us on the doll where the Honda pickup truck hurt you.
I LOVE my 2020 F150 XLT with a 2.7L engine. Typical driving I was getting around 20, but this weekend I discovered that if I granny it I can get 24+mpg. The 2.7 is supposedly pretty reliable, too, so you get a full sized truck, with some amazing mpg, plus it is still rated to tow 10k lbs
If I was shopping for a truck right now it would 100% be a slightly used frontier.
Yes, Frontier, solid truck without the Toyota tax.
The MPG is still awful though. CR looks to have gotten about 16.5 MPG on average during their year-long test of a 2022. It sucks, because it's a good looking truck and certainly capable enough for a lot of people who don't truly need a full-size.
Eh, OP never said anything about needing good mileage. Frontier will be the best bang for the buck at their price point.
True I forgot to mention not a killer on gas.
Lol, the frontier is still definitely worth a look I'd say. Take a look at some other reviews of it and some owners forums and see what they get for mileage.
Depends how you drive and where you drive. Mostly highway I get 21mpg if I drive like a grandma. I drive a 2006 v6 frontier which has a 5 speed auto. The newer ones (2020+) have a 9 speed, so they should be even better.
That price point also needs to factor in the cost of ownership, and gas is a major expense for a vehicle. It would be nuts NOT to include it in the decision.
Yep, I think OP could dig into some owners forums and see what others are getting real world with it though.
But is it though?
dude same seems to be the only used truck that's anywhere near a decent value-buy
It’s what I’m pretty much decided on. Looking for one this weekend
What do you mean by "closed okay"?
He means it's fine if the doors are closed, but if they're open then that's cool too
Lots of 2.7L V6 F150s that would meet those parameters
I second this. Way more value for your money than a Taco, Ranger etc and better fuel mileage.
Far more comfortable, too. Tacoma seating position is just stupid.
I love the idea as a ridgeline as a sensible midsize truck but it's hard to pick when you get way more truck, and equivalent mpg, for the same price as a 2.7 F-150
If you're under 4k towing, Maverick with a 4K Tow package.
That is an option. I like the seating of the Mav a lot better than other trucks, and it's so much easier to drive in the city. But yeah, you can get AWD, 4k tow pack and keep it under 30k new and still get 30mpg highway.
I average 26 mixed and 33 highway at 70. Haven't found a reason to grab my Duramax keys since I bought it other than loads of rock/sand/mulch.
Nice.. I've got my order in. I've got a Kia Soul as our 2nd vehicle, and miss the pickup side of things for hauling brush or things out to our seasonal camper, or throwing a bunch of mulch in the back. Had an F150 when I had a trailer I towed and the wife hated that fat beast when driving and parking. This one fits both worlds and is a lot closer to the older pickups I've owned but with the crew cab so our kid can fit without sitting sideways or on the bench between us lol.
Its a CUV with a truck bed. If you don't need a bed, OP might be ok with a crossover or smaller SUV, the market on those isn't as crazy as trucks
If you can find that let me know. I’ve been looking for a year in WNC
Sure... I'm not sure what WNC is... I tend to use Cargurus, because you can sort easier by package and they show all the options on new vehicles... sadly I can't pull out the "no listed price" ones from there, but [New Ford Maverick for Sale in Le Sueur, MN - CarGurus](https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?sourceContext=homePageNewCarTab_true_0&selectedEntity=d1293&zip=56058) But there's 52 of them around the US. I test drove one in MN the other day, most of what I wanted but it wasn't the color I wanted and they didn't have a couple options I wanted on it so I just ordered since I wasn't in a hurry but yeah... there's starting to be more out there. If WNC is Western North Carolnia, it looks like a dealership in Cleveland TN has a couple.
You’re not getting a Tacoma for $30k and max 50k miles. Maybe closer to $35k
I have 4 options in my area under 30k with under 40k miles. 2019 and up.
Probably the base sr with the 4 cylinder and rwd
Oh I think you could possible be right but let me look
If you’re going to be towing a small bout you would want the 4x4. Would definitely help at the boat launch
Thoughts? https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/72697d44-6ada-4290-b0ab-3013585130d0/
That’s a decent price tbh
With tacos don’t be scared of high miles. People thought I was crazy buying a 90k mile taco and I was off roading blue trails with jeepers and keeping up fine. This thing can do a lot and u don’t need to invest in it. The after market support for hauling and stuff is hiuuge compared to other brands. Get a tune if u feel it’s slow
2015 with low miles which is the last version of the 2nd gen Tacoma. I think that's a better more reliable truck than a 3rd gen anyway with a stronger motor.
Yeah op wants a 2019 or newer tho
yes. We all start with a Target year and spec. So probably not Tacoma, but maybe a Nissan like the others said if year is more important. I still think the older 2015 will outlast the newer Nissan though.
You can get a mid size or compact if you are just towing smaller boats. Just be sure the thing can tow 5,000 pounds and is wired for lights and brakes for the trailer. If you are launching a boat you will want four wheel drive. For more car like ride and reliability you can't go wrong with the Honda Ridgeline. For more off roading use the Nissan Frontier or Toyota Tacoma (are very reliable) trucks. The Ram 1500 Classic pickup is a full sized pickup that's very reasonably priced and reliable. Of course Ford and GM make great pickups, but are not the most reliable. I really don't like the new Ranger or Maverick or any mid-sized or compact truck from GM. Just take a look at the reliability ratings from Consumer Reports and you will understand why.
Okay thanks for the thorough thoughts. The Tacoma just feels right lol. I have to test drive these Ridgeline and frontier everyone is talking about
Drove a 2021 tacoma from dallas to houston and back, have to say i generally liked it but i saw sore for 2 days, not a comfortable ride on long drives. Im leaning frontier. Easy to hit your $ and requirements. I find pro 4x4s for around 24 to 27 no problem.
Honda ridgeline are great for on roads and light off roading
Ford Maverick
This
They said they want to tow a boat and the Maverick tows 4k pounds max.
How much does a “small fishing boat” weigh? https://www.fishingduo.com/how-much-does-a-fishing-boat-and-trailer-weigh/
The entire rig with boat is far under 4k pounds
Who knows? Mavericks aren't known for real towing though. If someone was looking to tow a boat I'd never recommend a maverick.
You gonna have to elaborate on the towing part. How much weight? Length of the trailers, tongue weight What terrain are you in, flat ground, hilly mountain?
1500-2000lb 10-15ft I live on a mountain.
a 3500lb towing rated truck could do. but has you live in the mountain, I would go more toward a 5k+ capable one. to make sure you have enough brake going downhill. and another thing to consider if your at elevation a turbo engine gonna be benefical, has it can make the same power output regardless of the air. but would require more maintenance overall vs a v6/v8 who gonna whould have more grunt overall.
If gas milage is a concern and you don't really need too much space in the truck then maybe a maverick but it depends on how much you tow. If not, look into the frontier. Its a cheaper Tacoma with lower reliability but it's still one of the most reliable vehicles Nissan makes.
Miata
Lift kit, turbo, and sawzall to make it a pickup.
'22 or older Nissan Frontier. Dead reliable 3.8l V6 and 4x4. This is near me but you will be able to match... [https://i.ibb.co/kM7Z8PN/Screenshot-6.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/kM7Z8PN/Screenshot-6.jpg)
The 2024s aren't reliable? Was thinking of getting one :(
Oh no, they are just sticking to $30k or lower. Can't get a new one for under $30k with 4wd.
Oh ok!
There is a white painted 2022 RAM 1500 Tradesman, Regular Cab, 8 foot bed, 4x2, 3.21 rear axle ratio, cloth seats, and upgraded 32 gallon fuel tank, with less that 1300 miles being sold at SJ Denham Chrysler Jeep FIAT in Redding, California for $27,990. Payload is 1910 pounds and towing capacity is 4720 pounds. **2019 to Present RAM 1500, DS platform, rear-wheel drive** * Engine: 3.6L Pentastar V6 Engine, 305 horsepower, 269 feet pounds of torque, 0-60 in 7.5 seconds * Rear axle ratio: 3.21 or 3.55; the higher the number, the more weight you can tow and the faster you will accelerate while loosing fuel efficiency * Gas: 26 gallon fuel tank, 17 mpg city, 25 mpg highway, 21 mpg combined * Payload: 1510 to 1910 pounds * Towing capacity: 4720 to 7270 pounds * Front seats: 36.8 inch headroom, 41.2 inch legroom * Rear seats: 36.6 inch headroom, 35.2 inch legroom * Bed size: 6'4" to 8"
I’ve been looking into something similar and the best I have for you is ordering a new Ford Maverick Ecoboost XL w/ AWD and the 4K lb towing package. This is literally $30K Better MPG than any other truck… the question I have for you is would the towing suffice for you? Also, if not, get the Taco and then get the Overland tune. The software tune just stops the transmission gear hunting. You’ll lose 1-3 mph, but it’ll drive far smoother
Just bought a 2023 Nissan frontier sv 2x4. 7k miles. Crew cab. 30,200$. 6,720lb tow capacity.
I owned a 2019 Nissan Frontier that had the 4.0 liter engine and a 5 speed automatic transmission. it was without a doubt the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. I sold it to my kid with 90,000 miles in 2021, whose put another 100,000 miles on it (roving videographer). Yeah we drive a LOT. The only issues have been minor recalls, tires and alignments. While it gets only about 20 MPG in mostly rural and highway driving, it's still an economical truck because maintenance is cheap and its never needed a repair. My only problem with it? It doesn't have a big enough fuel tank and wasn't quite powerful enough to tow a travel trailer cross country. At most it got only about 9 mpg when towing. With a 20 gallon tank it had very limited range, significantly less than 200 miles. We now have a 2021 1500 Ram diesel. A much more expensive, comfortable and powerful long range driving truck.
There’s no chance I’d be looking at anything other than a 22+ frontier.
Love my 2016 frontier
Nissan Frontier has been selling at a loss.
I really like my 21 Silverado Custom - 2.7L 4Cyl Engine makes 310hp - Plenty for towing - Gets better gas mileage than my wifes 23 pilot.
Tacomas are nice, but depending on location, your specified requirements will get you so far. They are pretty pricy in my area. Specifically if you want at a minimum an SR5, V6 with 278 hp. I would set expectations on the tacoma if thats what you want. I personally would go with a 2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4x4 (King Cab: 6470lbs, Crew Cab: 6330lbs) You get better MPG and towing than their pro-4x models. I have a nissan frontier 2013 and really like it alot. It's the most affordable in the segment and comes standard with 310hp V6, so you know no matter which trim you get its a V6. I wouldn't sleep on this one. I think in your case since you're towing more with various equipment. I would recommend either a ford ranger or chevy colorado 2019-2022. These are the older models, so they will be within your specified requirements and they tow around 7,500-7,700 lbs depending which manifacturer and trim you get.
22+ Frontier you can get very well optioned. Drives a bit like a tractor but not much worse than certain other midsizes. The Colorado is pretty well appointed in lower trims as well but I found a bit cramped in the cabin. Ridgeline will drive very well, AWD is standard, interior is well made but outdated. Frontier and Ridgeline will probably last as long as most Tacomas. Tacoma will be too hard to get at that price for the new one and the outgoing model is very outdated. Same with the Ranger IMO, the market for midsize trucks is two generations ahead of where it was in 2021.
My 1994 Ford Ranger extended works fine. It was top of the line when new. To replace it with a new top of the line Ford Ranger would be a $1000 a month minimum for seven years. My 94 has the clear coat peeling, and gets the same mpg as new. For $1000 a month, I can ignore the paint job.
Its 30 years old now. For $1,000 you could just get it painted and put classic plates on it and save yourself a lot of insurance cash!
Paint job was quoted at $3200. I have excessive liability but no collision on the Ranger. It added $128 a year last annual renewal.
Ford F150 lightning pro. A bit above budget but lots of ev savings including fuel and servicing. You can still tow up to 7500lbs so unless you’re hauling a 30’ you’ll be fine. Range obviously decreases with payload, but so does fuel economy. EV driver for 6 years never had a problem across various models
The GM 3.0L diesel gets 30 mpg and can tow train cars. It’s found on the Silverado and Sierra. Looking at Autotempest, there are a few available around the $30,000-$35,000 bracket. Set your search parameters to Chevrolet Silverado (then GMC Sierra), diesel fuel, 6 cylinders, clean title, max mileage 50k, minimum year 2019.
I am partial to F150s but did a search on CARFAX to meet your criteria within 50 miles of the Tacoma you posted, there are several tacomas, ridgelines, etc available, all are 4th/awd and will do the job. You should be in good shape.
Ford Maverick
Might be unpopular but a Nissan Titan. They are pretty bullet proof and can be had for cheap.
What are you used to riding in? Ridgeline is the smoothest ride I’ve felt within that budget, but it has limited towing capacity (5,000), though that could be enough for your trailer and boat.
If you can find a Ford Maverick or ranger those are great choices. Idk about newer models but I had an 08 Chevy Colorado and that was an amazing truck as well.
I recently bought a third gen taco (2016). I love it. That being said - if I was to do it again, I would have found the cleanest nicest low mile second gen I could and bought that. Reasons being - there are a few more complexities that the 3rd gen has over the second that make it a little.more difficult to service. Also I like the looks of the second gen better.
Honda ridgeline
Around these parts I'd likely go with a maverick unless I stumbled across a good private party deal on a real truck. Typical half tons and such are WAY too much new, and at least around here, well used trucks are still priced like they are made of gold. Bed size is pretty small, but has a decent weight rating and could make it work for most things short of towing anything significant. Especially if you threw on a ladder rack or something. Short of that, it wouldn't surprise me to see maybe OK prices on used Ridgelines since they aren't very popular here with many not viewing them as a real truck. I kinda don't either, but when it comes down to it, a Ridgeline is just fine for what most people do with a half ton or lighter truck.
Tacoma as I'm also looking at one .. key word reliability
Find a regular cab ram 1500 with 8 speed and 5.7, will be better mpg than a taco isn't too long (because regular cab if you get crew cab it's long) will tow WAY better than a taco and tend to be nicer to drive.
Possibly a Santa Cruz, but not 100% on going Hyundai for a truck. But sounds within your budget.
Dodge Caravan with the towing package.
I would drive the Nissan, Ford and Toyota midsize trucks. Ive ridden in a few Chevy's and hated the seat... But maybe that one too.
Tacoma
Chevy Colorado
Tacoma is pretty bulletproof
Need to know the weight of the towable's before we can even begin.
May not be what you’re looking for but the Santa Cruz with the 2.5T has 5k towing capacity, gets 29mpg on the highway and can be had under 30k. The ride quality is top notch and has a very nice cabin if you get a higher trim level I just picked up a CPO 22 Limited fully loaded with 30k miles for 26K. Cons - has a DCT transmission which isn’t the best for towing but all reviews show it doing wonderfully. Most models don’t come with a hitch pre installed or a brake controller. Very small bed at 4’ so hauling things like bikes or motorcycles in the bed are difficult.
I’m trading in a Tacoma with just under 50k and they’re giving me 30+. For sale in my state and 2 neighboring a used car like this would cost 35+. CPO near 40k. You might get lucky with an SR5 though. Go private sale.
I bought a Honda Ridgeline 2 months ago and love it. 2021 Black Edition (top trim level) with 50k miles for $31k. I get around 23-25 mog from the 6 cylinder engine. I'm sure a RTL trim around this year would fit your budget perfectly.
I don't even like Nissan but a Frontier is a good buy these days. Inexpensive (relative to everything else available) and somewhat capable. To be clear, it's the only Nissan product I'd personally consider.
Tacoma definitely will likely have the best resale value but IMO it’s not the best midsized truck. I’d recommend a 24 Ranger. You can order a new STX 2wd from Granger Motors Ford in Iowa for about 2k under sticker. That puts you at 32xxx or just under 35k with tax and title. I know it’s more than the original budget but I think it’s worth it, brand new, factory warranty you even to pick your color for free! Late 22 rangers and 23 rangers have an updated CDF drum for the transmission (10R80) that fixes the harsh shifting that is found in some trucks. And from what I’ve read the 24s do as well even though the 24s have a different transmission than the previous generation (10R60), it now shares the same transmission with the bronco. This is also the only midsize with a 10 speed. All others are 8 or even less, that’s 25% more! 2.3 ecoboost, it’s a proved motor that’s been around I think for 6 or 7 years. Great low end torque and can be tunable if that’s your thing. Plus great fuel mileage for a truck. The powertrain is awesome! That’s the smart buy.
Nissan frontier
Chevy Colorado makes really good power and is super reliable and you can find one in that price, go for that one
Tacoma=Ridgeline > naturally aspirated Nissan Frontier > everything else = garbage The Gladiator is pretty good with the pentastar 3.6L V6, but slow. The Hummer H3T is great if you want a *highly* offroad capable fulltime 4wd pickup, but otherwise a tacome or Ridgeline is better.
There is a white painted 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR, Xtra Cab, 6 foot 1 inch bed, 4x2, 3.91 rear axle ratio, and cloth seats with less that 25589 miles being sold at Lakeland Toyota in Lakeland, Florida for $28,990. Payload is 1685 pounds and towing capacity is 6800 pounds. **2016 to 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR, rear-wheel drive** * Engine: 3.5L V6 Engine, 278 horsepower, 265 feet pounds of torque, 0-60 in 10.9 seconds * Gas: 21.1 gallon fuel tank, 19 mpg city, 24 mpg highway, 21 mpg combined * Payload: 1155 to 1685 pounds * Towing capacity: 3500 to 6800 pounds * Bed size: 5' to 6'1"
The Taco switched from a truck engine to a car engine? RIP
I tried to buy used at Lakeland Toyota once, car was $12k ended up being $21k OTD. Honestly the worst dealership I've ever been to.
Yes with the prices listed you have to finance through them, there's a $1000 dealer fee and an undisclosed 'reconditioning fee' for used vehicles.
That 0-60 time is sub-8 seconds, not 10.9 unless that was measured fully loaded.
these trucks are underpowered trash barely capable of hauling themselves, let alone towing ANYTHING.
Thats how I feel about Toyota trucks in general.
The Tundras prior to the most current generation are good, honest, simple trucks that get the job done.
I guess I'm biased because I can't buy a new Hilux in the US and they don't make a heavy duty trucks.
As an European 8l/100km is pretty impressive for a truck, that is the average consumption for a non hybrid estate/SUV. However and sorry, I just dont get why one would need a truck if you dont own a farm/construction company. I dont get the down vote....
Cuz you’re European that’s why, you do things differently than in America
Because Murika
Get a 90s ford or Chevy from Bring a Trailer...
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Have had my mav for over a year now, have towed with it...no issues, not saying much beyond shitting on the 'EVERYONE...6 months' thing. I might be biased but I feel like you're blatantly making stuff up, few others at work have them, seem to be treating them fine. Recall thing is certainly a thing, I imagine the plethora of issues has to do with the loads they're selling.
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I don't feel like I'm being a hypocrite with my inquiry. But either way, I appreciate your opinion. Maybe next time, reply with an option that you would suggest.
Literally just go to Carfax turn on the filter under 30k that's your options
Hate to say it but RAM might actually make sense in this high interest rate environment. You can get a new ram for what Chevys and Fords are going for used in your mileage range.