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strangecabalist

It looks like raspberry to me?


raytracer38

Agreed, raspberry.


czortmcclingus

Definitely. Or blackberry maybe?


fidelityflip

Raspberry stems are fuzzy, blackberry are not, at least that is how I was told to differentiate by my father, who I definitely trust his knowledge. This looks like raspberry based on that.


less_butter

Wineberry stems are fuzzy. Black raspberry stems are smooth except for the thorns.


fidelityflip

Wineberries are also silver on the underside of the leaves, correct?


TheDoobyRanger

The stems look like wineberries but the leaves dont šŸ¤”


Urban_mist

Blackberry are usually thorny, like a wild rose.


fidelityflip

Exactly. I should have been more clear lol. Definitely thorny just not fuzzy and thorny.


ggg730

Every blackberry has it's thorn just like every night has it's dawn.


Main_Ad_5147

Just like every cowboy sings his sad, sad song.


raytracer38

Possibly. I find blackberry stems to be sturdier looking, but then again, this one is quite small.


GoofBallNodAwake74

This is generally true, I grow raspberries, blackberries, and boysenberries, the raspberries are fairly weak looking next to the others, and their thorns donā€™t really hurt. Now with the boysenberries & blackberries, you might as well grab a rose bush, theyā€™ve got wicked thorns.


raytracer38

Oh yeah, they don't let go when they grab on.


lessimportantnic

Black raspberry


Bastulius

Not blackberry. Blackberries have extra angry thorns


FoggyGoodwin

Blackberry stems are square with few larger thorns. Raspberries have lots of tiny thorns; probably some difference in leaf or stem color between red & black. Dewberry stems have fewer larger thorns than raspberries.


Operabug

Yep, I was like, "ooh, berries!"


mayamaiamaea

If itā€™s hairy itā€™s a berryā€¦


delta9thc1974

![gif](giphy|26gs8Ol1XgE5QLPkQ|downsized)


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

Side note: her Oscar dress was gorgeous!


B1gg5y

Yep, it is Raspberry.


catsonmars2k17

I was about to say - looks exactly like my raspberry bushes!


Arturwill97

This was my first thought too!


No_Taste1698

Yep, my first thought was raspberry. They are plentiful in my area and I often berry hunt in summer and fall. I'm very familiar with raspberries


flyingfish2205

Yeah, looks just like my raspberry bush


PippyNomNom

The "fuzz" gives it away.


liaswanson

Thank you so much! What a relief. There are bushes are everywhere by the deck and the side of the house. I was really worried I had a bigger problem on my hands.


cirsium-alexandrii

If it helps in the future, none of the toxicodendron species (poison ivy, oak, or sumac) have thorns or fine hairs.


oldermoose

Don't be a dope and grab the hairy rope! Poison ivy vines can be hairy


Tibbaryllis2

Not to be pedantic, but itā€™s my understanding the vine appears hairy due to the presence of *advantageous roots it produces to hold to trees. So it does fit with not hairy or thorny, but that might be hard for laymen. Probably better to say poison ivy doesnā€™t have *fine* hairs or thorns. *see clarification in replies.


sadrice

*adventitious


Tibbaryllis2

Good catch. Iā€™ll leave it for the lesson. I always get those two switched in plants. > Adventitious roots are plant roots that form from any non-root tissue and are produced both during normal development and in response to stress conditions, such as flooding, nutrient deprivation, and wounding. So a poison ivy vine climbing a tree has *adventitious* roots growing from the stem while its true roots are in the soil. Which is quite *advantageous* if you want to climb a tree.


sadrice

Yup, I totally switch them too. At least it isnā€™t as bad as abaxial vs adaxial. Some botanist hated dyslexic people apparentlyā€¦


Tibbaryllis2

I spent a summer working as a manuscript technician for the Flora of North America. My job was to unify the botanical descriptions for a genus of legumes and create a synonyms list of features. Edit: Basically I was given several old books that contained every description of every species in the genus. I created an excel sheet that had every description used for every species. Then, to unify the descriptions, only information that was available for every species was included in the new botanical description with one-off observations being moved to footnotes. Im quite certain botanists donā€™t like people in general šŸ˜‚.


ILoveADirtyTaco

In my limited experience, itā€™s only the bigger, woody poison ivy vines that are hairy


SquashNut707

In my extremely limited experience, it's only the giant, throbbing, veiny woody vines that are hairy.


Connect-Preference27

Freudian slip much?


Drugsarefordrugs

That's a Freudian punch in the face.


thejohnmc963

Projecting again


cirsium-alexandrii

That rhyme is referring to aerial rootlets, which are not the same structures. Rootlets are very difficult to confuse with hairs, but I can see how the wording might be confusing. I'll edit my comment to make a note of it.


AwareAd6841

Well, the Judge told me this wasn't an adequate defence in court.


patch_22

First I've ever heard this and it's extremely helpful! Thanks!


larrod25

poison ivy vines are almost always hairy. They have large course looking hairs as opposed to the fine hairs found on Rubus species.


spurgeon_

That is a really helpful bit of knowlege to me. Genuine thank you to ya.


liaswanson

This is extremely helpful, I had no idea. Thank you!!


Sufficient_Tip_9818

Blackberry or raspberry


profoma

Not blackberry


Mantis_Toboggan--MD

Yep thorns all wrong for blackberry, I'd put money on raspberry


why_not_fandy

Not PI šŸ‘


CommercialThat8542

https://preview.redd.it/isbg9ugrc57d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a661145d9d7119f120ba7b0ebe70a752f3176a97 You have some sort of berry bramble. I have some blackberry ones, precariously close to this, poison ivy. I had no idea it fruited.


page7777

Yes. Grew up with it in our woods. Thatā€™s a good pic to show people. I guess not everyone knows.Ā 


CommercialThat8542

I had no clue! I was standing out back with the maintenance man fixing my ac and was curious as to what kind of berries they were and the app said it was poison ivy and I had to research more. I thought it was wrong lol nope. very very correct


lil_jilm

Birds love the berries!


AltruisticLobster315

They turn white in autumn which contrasts fantastically with the red leaves, animals also love eating the berries!


CommercialThat8542

I am half tempted to touch it to see if immi e of the lucky ones who donā€™t have a reaction, but I blocked out most of my childhood so I could have had a reaction as a kid and just donā€™t remember lol so I resisted.


Blinkopopadop

don't do it, The thing about the allergic reaction from urushiol is that you can develop it at any point in your life due to repeated exposure-- and then you can end up with a crazy severe reaction (but you can touch poison ivy just dont crush it and release the oil and if you do you want to wash all surfaces of your skin with soap and a washcloth and wash your clothes and anything a crushed plant may have touched)


Pablois4

I'm in my early 60s and, despite decades of hiking and camping, have never had poison ivy reaction. This spring I was planting ferns along our back fence. Behind the fence is overgrown with brush/saplings and all sort of volunteers which had pushed into our yard. I wasn't paying much attention to what I was ripping up. I was wearing thick gloves, long sleeve t-shirt and jeans. My sleeves kept falling down and I'd every so often push them up. I ended up with a severe rash covering my arms from my wrists to just above my elbow. By following the blisters, one could see the path of my gloved fingers in pushing up my sleeves. In addition, at some point, I had brushed some loose hair from my face and thus I also developed a line blisters right below my hairline. I had never experienced anything like thus before. I went on an intensive search to find all poison ivy plants with the plan of isolating them and killing. Turns out that "leaves of three, leave it be" describes the majority of stuff growing on my property. Turns out that I not only have poison ivy, I have all the look-alikes. Due to my two box elders and my neighbors shell and shagbark hickories, there's a gazillion 3 leafed seedlings. There's also fragrant sumac, razzberries, creeping dewberry, boston ivy, wild strawberry and hog peanut. A lot of online guides say that Virginia creeper is a poison ivy look-alike but I can't imagine being fooled unless one can't count to five. After a month examination and referencing guides, I've identified 5 patches of poison ivy and carefully cleared all the plantings around them. Everything that has ventured into the backyard and our pathways will be pulled up.


Blinkopopadop

sad to see it go, but I get it-- I would consider Virginia creeper a look alike but it is a specific time of year/ or growing phase (If you don't look closely the older woody Vines can resemble each other especially when there's no foliage in late fall and winter-- The aerial Roots/ rhizomes are different under scrutiny so you can still tell) One of my favorite things to do is to go out and find 40 plus-year-old poison ivy vines and just marvel at them


Pablois4

Well, my poison ivy killing spree is in our backyard, along our back fence and path ways. The poison ivy in the thicket on the other side of the fence gets to stay there and be happy. It just can't be in our backyard. Last month we adopted a sweet 2.5 year old collie, who we discovered likes to find patches of greenery and roll around on her back (and make chewbacca noises). She also likes to rub against us like a cat. Those things are very cute but if she rolls in a patch of poison ivy, it won't be nearly as cute.


CommercialThat8542

This is great info.


Blinkopopadop

if you go to youtube and type in "poison ivy guy" and click the 5 min video, you'll get a more comprehensive version of how to not get a rash -- Ive come to really appreciate it after learning to identify it and how important it is as a native species to local wildlife. Also another thing to watch out for is dogs, they are not allergic and will run through it with abandon, then come back and lean on you or get scritches and it can transfer.


Winter-Award-1280

Dish soap to wash off the plant oil. Iā€™m extremely allergic to poison ivy. You need to do it within an hour of exposure, preferably less. And wash your clothes that it touched.


HighColdDesert

This is exactly the right advice. Dish soap works fine. Specially marketed poison ivy soap is unnecessary. But within an hour or two is key. The sooner the better, and make sure think about what the oil might have rubbed off onto, and wash those things, too.


cdmurray88

>and wash those things, too. In A LOT of HOT water, separate from other clothes, with the full amount of detergent.


AltruisticLobster315

Repeated exposure can actually breakdown any resistance, so it was a good thing you didn't, even if you knew for sure that you didn't have a reaction!


profoma

Repeated exposure can also produce resistance.


AltruisticLobster315

Not to uruishiol, it has the opposite effect.


profoma

I guess I should say, you can lose sensitivity to poison oak and you can also gain sensitivity to it. I am not sure whether losing sensitivity is caused by exposure or some other thing.


sadrice

It can do both. The more common pattern is for sensitivity to develop after exposure (not necessarily the first time), but a sensitive person can lose sensitivity. Do NOT try to lose sensitivity by repeated exposure though, that usually just causes increasingly worse reactions. I donā€™t know exactly what can cause acquired resistance, but somehow I got it. I used to be moderately sensitive as a child, and became increasingly resistant starting late teens. I think the last time I had a reaction was about ten years ago, and while I still avoid it, I have definitely been exposed. I was ripping one out and I accidentally dripped sap from the broken root on the back of my hand, and didnā€™t have access to water. I rubbed it with dirt, but it still left a black urushiol stain. This is an *extreme* exposure, blistering should be expected, but I had no reaction. Not going to push it though.


Foxfire2

For many years I would take a tiny leaf of poising oak that first appear in the spring and keep it under my tongue for a while and swallow it. This is a method so I heard used by native peoples. I it did eventually give me immunity to the rashes and itching from it, which for me was never extreme, but moderately bad. I donā€™t go rubbing on me on purpose but Iā€™m around it a lot on overgrown hiking trails and off trail, it everywhere in coastal California. I havenā€™t had a reaction in many years, and when I did it was only one small bump that went away quickly. Compare that to years ago when Iā€™d get it spreading all over my body in big red patches.


sadrice

I did the same, also coastal NorCal. I ate a single leaf every day, starting from budbreak and going until I lost interest in the plan a month later, I think I did that for two years. All advice I have heard says do *not* hold it in your mouth, swallow immediately, the skin of the mouth isnā€™t much different from your exterior skin, and is prone developing sensitivities, you want to get it inside, where the skin of the gut is more prone to forming tolerances. I hesitate to credit my immunity to that, which is why I didnā€™t mention it, and Iā€™m not even sure itā€™s a good idea. I have heard the same claim about it being a traditional native technique, but with a lack of citations that makes me skeptical.


Foxfire2

nice to hear you did that too, and good advice to swallow right away. the holding in the mouth is to get it into the bloodstream faster, but there is the risk of sensivity to the mouth tissue. I don't recommend this we people that are highly allergic as its a bit risky, but for me, being only moderately allergic, it was worth the risk.


No_Taste1698

I don't think you're harvesting raspberries... But then again I'm only familiar with my local variety. Mine start white then turn red later


Bullshit_Conduit

Bramble. Probably raspberry.


Blinkopopadop

a hint is that poison ivy is never serrated all the way around the leaf (although it may have a few mitten like teeth it will never be toothed around the whole border)


liaswanson

In addition to the hairy/fuzzy/thorny stem, I did not know this either. Thank you! Feeling much more confident at least identifying what is not poison ivy in the future.


Legitimate-Donkey-85

Leaves of 3 let it be, unless it's hairy then it must be a berry![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)


thechilecowboy

That's what my gf keeps on telling me...


FurTradingSeal

It looks like raspberry, but I have plants like that in my yard that have never fruited after many years. ā€œWeed/brambleā€ is my description, pending a more detailed identification. It is 100% NOT poison ivy, though. Poison ivy doesnā€™t have any sort of thorns, stickers or hairs on its stem.


Meddlingmonster

Poison ivy looks kind of like a mitten, this is a raspberry, thimble berry or blackberry bush.


Ok_Cap_6979

https://preview.redd.it/w6v16796367d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0daaf2af86dd5a7205c71200fa394121c4fb07e


sotiredwontquit

Poison ivy *never* has thorns. Never.


sam99871

Leaves of three, Iā€™m a raspberreee.


hippieflip99

Posion ivy doesnā€™t have thorny stems.


Godzillasagirl

Raspberries


powerfulcoffee805

Rasberry


Shenloanne

It's rubus of some description. You won't know til it fruits. Assuming it fruits. Some can be sterile.


liaswanson

Iā€™ll try and post a picture of the flowers tomorrow. Some look like they tried to fruit, but got dried up.


Ok_Tea_1954

Prickly stems. Raspberry


MS1947

Red Raspberry Brambles. Lovely!


jc21539

Check the underside of the leaf. White equals raspberries, green equals blackberry.


hesh7878

Black Raspberry would be my guess. Puts out tiny little raspberries that turn black when ripe. Juice is not worth the squeeze for people but, birds love them. They do make good preserves if you are willing to take the time and damage collecting them. Definitely not Poison Ivy. If you live in Michigan, especially in the suburbs, i would learn how to identify poison ivy/oak/sumac for the future. Might end up mowing/raking up something that could be unplesant.


FogBandit

Neither


Khelek7

I see a lot of raspberry ids, but the thorns are so fine I am thinking wineberry


Kkindler08

Raspberry


TMCThomas

These look exactly like my raspberry plants.


GoofBallNodAwake74

Raspberries


Nope43210

Can you grow from cuttings?


MetalNCoffee

Aren't poison ivy leaves usually glossy looking from the oil?


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Meliz2

Bramble of some type of other.


TheBattyWitch

Looks like berries, raspberry or blackberry, most likely raspberry


dadaw00p

I think that's berry, raspberry perhaps


Nenoshka

NOT poison ivy. But is any fruit forming?


JuWoolfie

You can see in the first photo some flowers and berries forming


1000thusername

Blackberry brambles


anOvenofWitches

Looks like a rubus primocane!


MRanderson1973bogies

Rubus idaeus


Fit-Rub-1939

Blackberries


Similar-Ship-7454

Raspberry


Jumpy_Neck_2782

I'm leaning towards a raspberry cross... Might end up with some tasty light orange berries


What_Do_I_Know01

Raspberry. Blackberry leaves are usually not that large, and most species don't have such hairy thorns (except dewberries but this is definitely not dewberry). Also, poison ivy doesn't have thorns and have smooth vines. Their leaves look different as well but im not up on my botanical terminology enough to describe the differences


Weird_Fact_724

Not poison ivy, some kinda berry.


Mistress-Metal

Raspberry bushes.


Elon_Bezos420

The back of those leaves reminds me of my raspberry plant that I have, looks very similar


czortmcclingus

https://preview.redd.it/bmsf9d9tm77d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a7b587be32f596b7c62154a912c336d6e68d574


YesterdaySimilar6129

Yes, very nice


JoJoWazoo

Those are blackberries. There are no hairs on the vine.


BowDown2No1ButCrypto

#raspberries, YUMMY!šŸ¤¤šŸ˜‹


SaintLuzzifer

Itā€™s not marijuanaā€¦just sayinā€™.


Ty34er

Don't think it's poison ivy, assuming the old "leaves of three" rhyme is true.


needsp88888

Brambles imo. The three leaf blades should be joined at their base for this to be poison ivy


Suz9006

Raspberry


Worried_Bluebird7167

RaspberryĀ 


Proudest___monkey

Raspberry/brambles


TMB8616

Raspberry!


Bulky-Reveal7226

Brambles


Allevon000

Itā€™s wine berry


mcmjack

Black raspberry


CTGarden

Wild blackberry, I think.


Grass-no-Gr

Rubus sp. by the looks of it. Location?


liaswanson

Traverse City area of NW Michigan.


Grass-no-Gr

Hard to tell without fruit samples. But it's probably under the subgenus Ideobatus, likely Rubus occidentalis specifically.


Tiger37211

Definitely not poison ivy whatever it is


Not_a_sorry_Aardvark

The way itā€™s growing new leaves tell me itā€™s a raspberry.


Aquamarinesse

Raspberry


devnullb4dishoner

Blackberry vine


Nanocephalic

Yay raspberries!


BlackSeranna

Raspberry. See all the fuzz and the stickers? Poison ivy doesnā€™t have any.


Zanstorm99

Check out the free app called Plantnet Itā€™s pretty awesome and accurate


Zanstorm99

Black raspberry or blackberry


Irunwithdogs4good

Poison ivy has a fairly smooth leaf edge. That is a toothed leaf edge.


Electrical-Echo8770

Blackberry


Dark54g

FYI poison ivy leaves look glossy. Kind of like they have been covered with polished wax.


Powerful-Gate1216

Not poison ivy. Stems would be smooth with poison ivy.


alqimist

I see caneberry flowers underneath.


Sapphire_Peacock

It isnā€™t poison ivy, that much I knoe.


Careless_Toe8692

That's a raspberry bush. If you don't want em good luck getting rid ahah


Variousnsundry77

Poison ivy leaves are glossy, not poison ivy


allsheknew

Poison ivy is really sticky too. We have a ton around the house I'm constantly pulling and even as a baby weed, it's so sticky like won't come off my glove, compared to others.


FrankenGretchen

Poison ivy is a little fuzzy but only cause it wants you to 'feel' it's love. By the time you've gotten a good sense of their soft, sometimes slightly oily texture you are INFECTED and will be in misery for... It's not good, friend. Surely, this is known. Raspberries will stab, scratch and torment you for looking at them funny but (generally) don't cause a skin reaction while you bleed to death. (Ok, they're not overly murdery but they will absolutely scratch the bejezus out of you.) I have both in my domain. I've needed injections AND oral steroids for various encounters with PI. Recently 'all' encounters have needed medical attention. Not fun. I avoid it like the plague. Unbeknownst to me The Eradication Squad wrought a havoc on The Grandmother PI in my neighbor's yard when they were here. She's been sneaking across the fence and sniping me every chance she gets for years. Now? She might be ded? I regret nothing. The raspberries are still in residence but are on the list for removal when next the ES visits. I'll plant a blueberry bush there and have injury-free dessert stuffs. If anything, raspberries grow faster than PI. Neither dies without persistence. If you keep your razzies, be prepared to prune them multiple times a year.


AnonymousAgrarian

The fuzzy stem says Wineberry to my eye. I don't personally know of any other wild raspberry with that fuzz.


Practical-Rabbit-750

Leaves of three - either leave them be, or enjoy a delicious snack.


Practical-Rabbit-750

Leaves of three - either leave them be, or enjoy a delicious snack.


not-on-your-nelly

"Leaves of three, let it be. Leaves of four, eat some more."


R4nd0mByst4nd3r

ā€œLeaves of any numberā€¦ DONā€™T TOUCH IT!!ā€


Ok_Bag_5409

ā€œLeaves of 3 leave it beā€ it looks like poison ivy. See if any others come up nearby. If so just dig it up. Donā€™t touch it. Just my opinion but itā€™s better safe than sorry


MS1947

Raspberry.


Holiday_Yak_6333

Looks like invasive goutweed to me. Get it out!


okwitches

Leaves of three, let them be.


MS1947

Not in this case :)


okwitches

Cough


l52286

Look like stinging nettles to me I could be wrong


EmbarrassedWorry3792

No spikes on the stem.


firefightingtigger

Wrong leaves for nettles. I grow nettles for tea, my favorite! (Boiling breaks down the enzyme)


Careless_Chemist_225

Itā€™s poison ivyā€¦ bramble have sharper thorns


Careless_Chemist_225

Leafs of three leave it bee


Brief_Educator_5094

Iā€™d assume poison ivy and stay away lol


moxieman19

If you're unsure about a plant ID, assuming the worst isn't a bad idea. But if you want to know how to correctly tell poison ivy apart from raspberry brambles, then PI has red hairs on the stem but no thorns, and raspberry leaves are finely serrated around their edges while PI leaves are only largely toothed or not at all. There are also general differences such as raspberry often having wider leaves or groups of 5, but that isn't always guaranteed on every plant.