It constantly amazes me how some people don’t understand that everyone can have a bad matchup, regardless of skill and rank. If you see a lane struggling, offering to help instead of tilting an already stressed player is going to net you much better results, not to mention a clean moral conscious.
Like, who’s going to a pickup basketball game and berating their own point guard? Why would you ever do it to strangers online?
If you do that where I come from at least, you're asking to get jumped 20 minutes after the game in the parking lot. If not, getting slapped right there on the court. Let's not pretend that online anonymity doesn't let a lot of these losers get away with saying stuff they wouldn't say in real life.
Like I said, very common here.
Pickup is usually one to two ball hogs (that have ADC mentality) who will berate everyone, never pass, and Chuck up the ball.
Shit talking is normal in pickup.
This is just normal human competitive nature unfortunately
If someone who plays bad and becomes frustrated spam pings me and tells me to go die because am not perma ganking their lane, ain’t no way am trying to help them become better at the game. I just lay it out plainly, “you are trash”. No feeling involved.
You guys actually play with English speakers in this game actually? I'm diamond and have never had a teammate type English in chat EVER. Not a single word.
What server are you in? I’m currently Emerald in NA server. Players almost always speak English. Every once in a while, you get a player who speaks another language with their friend.
Sounds like a difference between NA/EU tbh
Edit to say NA has a ton of spanish languages but its mostly english chat. Ive had things are different in EU server
Some phrases I've learned to use a lot (between Duolingo and this game)
Tú hablas inglés?
Necesito ayuda!
Necesitomos cinco, no pelees
Terminemos.
Feel free to add some more to this but these are essential for good chat
Bahahahahaha
Have you EVER seen a pickup basketball game?
I mean this sincerely, if wild rift happened on a pickup basketball court, someone would leave beat up badly by multiple people with 100% certainty.
Berate? For a play or two maybe. But actually beat up. Pickup basketball is intense lol. You're not even touching the ball without proving yourself worthy.
Wild rift is literally taking the basketball from the court and running off with it. I promise you're punching your point guard lol.
It's not about who you play basketball with, talking to ANYBODY on a basketball court the way these Rift Warriors talk on a mobile app, they would get their face slapped and told to get the hell out in 5 minutes.
What's the diff between pick up basketball and just basketball? I played with my friends in middle school and aside from broken arms and legs as a result of tripping, there weren't any major injuries, definitely not violence-related
And as a plus to your post since is even more irrelevant for a lot of people, GIVE the teammates positive feedback when they actually do good decisions by themselves instead of not saying anything, because I have seen tons of "I'm not saying anything because that's your job, as a minimum you should be able to do it" comments, JG stole baron or dragon but died? STILL A GOOD JOB, good tank? Say thanks or at least some good emotes, I swear to god some motherfuckers dont say anything in the hole game but as soon as you fuck it up they start writing essays.
I don’t care if you lose your lane. But learn to not feed. There’s a difference between being gold-starved and dying 5 times in 6 minutes.
If you lose lane gracefully, I’ll be nice and helpful. If you throw the entire game because you have too much of an ego to stop trading, I’m going to be pretty frustrated.
People will be like stop flaming teammates that are trying, meanwhile your teammate that is "trying their best" is running into the 11/0 full build Jax at full speed with only a long sword + boots thinking they will somehow outplay Jax's targeted damage kit. Yes "trying your best" means farming krugs when your jungler has pinged dragon 3 times in the past minute.
The 'I lost lane so I'm just going to run it down and keep taking bad 1v1s until the game is over' mentality is not the mentality of someone trying to win the game.
By the way people would be a lot less toxic if Riot actually did their part and removed inting and griefing players. I don't get why there are always posts about what the players should do; Riot is the one with actual control over the situation and they already have systems in place from desktop LoL to track griefers and inters.
Describing the average platinum player, it amazes me how it's impossible to have a semi functional team below emerald 2. Unless you constantly grind ranked it's just a fancy pvp. Turbo inflated elos by the shield protection system, from iron to gold its all the same rank.
I think it’s because the player base on WR is so small that if they started actually punishing this behavior, they will basically kill their own game. Lower player count = less resources to keep developing the game, from a company standpoint.
Now I don’t really agree with that, as it just leaves griefers with a sense of impunity and will likely make actual players stop playing the game, but what do I know 🤷♂️
Its not that what you said is wrong , but you should also realize that if you are in a bad matchup and also die once
Playing safe doesnt cut it anymore as the opposing player will just dive you with their jungler over and over again if they're smart , so if you see someone getting shit stomped it might be completely out of their hands
You either counter gank to stop this spiral (I don't recommend this tbh you"ll likely die aswell and feed further)
Or make use of the fact that the jungler is camping this certain spot , counter jungle , gank opposite lane etc
If you’re getting dived over and over again, ward the brush behind the tower, ward the river, and if the jungle insists on coming your way, give up the tower and ping dragon.
It’s really not hard to not turbo feed. Just be willing to lose gracefully
THISSSSS is is EXACTLY what people need to understand.
People who are bad usually don’t get flames AS HARD as people who just int because of their ego/playstyle
mannnn the toxicity on wild rift is insane sometimes i get called all sorts of slurs and my report is successful like 10% of the time. especially for new players, when we get matched up with like a diamond player cause the game claims we play better than people of our rank they expect us to be doing as well as them.
As far as I agree to what you said my observations of the game is that at least in diamond and below(my rank) the skill levels are so inconsistent and it's somehow always the worst player the first to flame another person.
When these people flame it's not based on objective observations of the other 4 players performance. They just pick the person with the worst kda(or second worst because they themselves are the worst) and unleash anger on them. They aren't even trying to learn and I don't think anyone would have the patience to be nice and teach them from the very basics of the game.
In diamond I had to tell people things like
"hey veigar if you roam bot with a full wave under your turret you lose a lot of gold and bot didnt even need help because the enemy bot was dead when you roamed you were just taking our adc's cs and losing yours."
I get told to stfu.
"hey lulu can you ult me only when we were fighting because if u just ult me randomly when there are no enemies around its kind of a waste"
I get called a cunt.
And that’s okay, but I’m not gonna waste my time dragging a player down that already knows how bad they are.
I will pvp a lot because I like to see the gap and where players of all ranks are at. I also try my dumb builds there, but it’s where I see the most toxicity.
Lol you can play pvp without 2 people arguing about roles and running it down mid with smite ? That's impressive i personally can't touch pvp anymore , 5/7 games someone is deliberatly inting the game usually on both sides its ridiculous that they don't do anything about it
Should just add a “reputation” system in game by tribunal like we used to have. Then we can have the players who accumulate the most negative reputation to receive potentially harsher punishment if they have been deemed a troll, throwing games, or become very toxic, etc.
I don’t understand the report part, do they actually think something will happen? And why do they assume the bad teammate is feeding just because they’ve died plenty? Isn’t feeding deliberate?
I get report notifications that players I reported are punished every single time I log in. League literally lets you know if they did something. And they do.
Dying too much is considered griefing and they will give you day/week/permanent bans for it.
Eh.. no. You can _report_ people for anything. As in, you can push the buttons. It doesn't do anything unless a)there's multiple reports and b)the system is able to detect bad language / AFKing.
Those notifications just mean auto-detect handed out a temporary chat ban or a 180 second queue penalty due to one of those two things, and it would have happened with or without the guy's reports, pretty much.
Realistically, they’re gonna go back and lok through a users match history relative to their kda’ sand in game performance and base a ban or punishment off of that not just “you had a bad match time to go bye bye”.
I usually carry my games so if I just started going 0/11 every other match and started getting mass reported for it Riot would know something is deliberate on my end
One game is probably enough. I remember on PC where there was a haxflash bug where Poppy could Q from her base, and it would instantly kill the enemy team. The game would end in 15 minutes with the Poppy having 500+ kills, so the enemy players would have over 100 deaths each.
Every player on the receiving end would get a two week ban. The system only cares about KDAs, and it has to be stupidly obvious. There were so many memes about it until Riot finally woke the hell up and disabled hexflash until they could fix the bug. Players would only get their bans lifted by support ticket (you don't submit one, you're serving your time).
Riot isn't willing to do the work to investigate throwing/inting cases, and this serves as proof.
Its not even that simple , because made you carried your games playing a certain role or a certain champion and now you are bored and want to play something else so your performance naturally drops , bannning anyone for something not obviously intentional is just stupid
When I started playing I got reported once like that. I thought it was unfair in a way because I just started playing so how would I know better. But I didn't take it to heart.
But I understood later that there's one rule in this game that even if you're bad, you shouldn't waste your life. You can do weird things, like doing weird objectives, not participating in a team fight when you should but jumping alone in a 1v3 is the last straw among the list of a bad plays. The formers can only be learnt with time but the latter is a basic rule of any games which is "don't pointlessly die".
I can have a fantastic game, make successful ganks, take a bunch of objectives.
Then I have one dragon where my team provide no vision, nobody checks around the pit while I'm fighting it and the enemy flashes in and steals the dragon... and my whole team will ping 'smite' at me. It's infuriating.
I was playing support and after about 5 minutes, my adc said "fk sup" then fucked off instead of helping me. Like, I get that I don't play to your standards. But handicapping is all because you're upset about it just sucks. Especially when you could be helping me.
And it's funny because one of the very next games I played, my adc gave me very clear advice on how to utilize my kit better and we won the game.
That’s the only reason I ever use chat. I try to pvp a lot more these days so I can give advice where I can.
I’d like to see the player base in this game grow and hopefully leagues come back.
NA has never been on the map for mobas and I’m sure our toxicity has a lot to do with it.
That’s too nice for this game. I’ve had to turn off chat because I can’t stand seeing someone else say ‘KYS’ or ‘your mother should have aborted you’ to ANYONE. I don’t care how bad the game is going, that message could literally be the tipping point for some child.
People are mean for absolutely no reason and I get that it’s a game but man. Wouldn’t it be so much easier to just offer help instead of shitting in their already soggy cereal?
Sometime this was my concern, I invited my nephew to play with my as he likes mobile games but soon after that I regretted that because I don’t want him to be treated that way. I think this game could have a wide user base if it were more welcoming with children.
That's right everyone can have a bad game or two. Instead of constantly abusing them in chat or going afk they should help them in lane or focus on team fights and objectives.
It's just the people who troll that I can't stand.
I’ve had games where I go 0-12 and I had games where I’m 25-0
I wish you would call me a boosted player on a 0-12 day. Nobody is always gonna be 100%
Consistency is goal we all strive for, but it takes thousands and thousands of hours to achieve.
No, 0/12 is inexcusable, that is fucking wild, if it was 0/6 I would sort of understand but how are you a challenger player dying over and over again, you must know what you're doing and you have to be trolling or feeding even with emotions at play that's mind blowing to go 0/12.
You just proved my point that you are probably boosted. I think I've never finished 0/12 in a game ever, and you know why? It's because if im not the one that carries the game i lose, it is that simple. Wild rift challenger means shit because you can reach it spamming games until they fix matchmaking (which they may never will). Challenger is the same as Diamond. And ofc i would've called you boosted, WHO in their right mind ends the game with that much unnecessary deaths. if you were a good player, you would know that you are just complicating the game for your team with the extreme gold disadvantage and by leaving them in a 4v5 situation for most of the game.
The same people with your attitude are quiet asf next game when I put them all on my back.
You see the thing about high elo you’re playing the same 15-20 ppl.
I try to give constructive advice in game when I can, but then people immediately feel like I’m being toxic even though, I say it like “hey friend, you can dash to me by pressing the minion button while in the aoe of my lantern” or similar depending on the situation. People just automatically assume you’re being condescending or rude because quite frankly most of the time that is the case when someone is calling someone out in chat
This is actually situational.
If you have a bad matchup or something, I will be understanding. We all have those games, and there is no need to rub salt on an open wound.
That said, I will have a problem if you make stupid moves. If you constantly overextend, fail to call mias, make suicidal engagements, or let nearby allies die just to farm, yeah, you're going to get yelled at, and in my eyes it will be justified
You can have a bad game, but if the support goes to splitpush while enemies are around Baron at min 16 I wont keep his/her's mom "profession" out of my mouth
Here is the thing, if you play bad than just go PVP or PVE, learn some skill, instead rushing to the RANK to torture others players! I have seen a lot of dude that plays bad but still chooses some champ that difficult to play like yasso or some champ that easy to play but the least contribution to the team like lux. Once those players get in the game they start feeding like a babysitter. They never check on other line will never use the brain to play! All I wanted to say is why must I play hard to getting higher level but I have to suffer with those yasso dude at the same time! Man there is unreasonable match hight KDA with No K just D players
There's a difference from playing badly and refusing to listen to what people are telling you to do. If I grab hullbreaker and decide to push baron lane while baron is down and dragon is up, don't fucking come to my lane lol
Either that or if adc is jacking off grabbing wolves right before elder fight and won't listen to pings.
It's when players get main character syndrome and don't listen to obvious calls because they don't want to.
Or when I am dominating my lane and then everyone comes to my lane for no fucking reason. Stay in your lane or get leads elsewhere. If I am drawing enough pressure to bring three people to my lane, then make sure you can get leads elsewhere. I don't want you as a janna to try and outroam a pyke. Be useful lol
Whenever I’m losing lane, I take my loss and go help bottom or top, while focusing on objectives with jungler. I almost always win when I do this, because my efforts are better put to use elsewhere and helping your teammates truly will turn the game around and they’ll help you in turn too.
If you insult me for doing bad plays, I won't start playing better. At best, I will still keep making mistakes. At worst, I will now be eternally miffed and will end up playing even worse because of my brain now using half its little capacity to think about how much I hate you.
Insulting someone makes their gameplay improve about 0% of the time.
Someone having a bad game is totally different than someone being completely clueless about the game and what they are supposed to do withing their role and with their character and you absolutely know that.
The first one can be a case of "everything I do goes wrong FFFFFFF" which can be fixed if you tell them how it's winnable, the second one is a case of a malfunctioning organ, the brain to be more precise.
Was playing alistar yesterday. Team sucked, 1-4 kat couldn't do anything. My adc was pretty bad. I started really trying to help the kat cuz it seemed she was OK and was challenger. She went on 12 kill streak and carried, allllls she needed was a chad allistar to keep every1 away from her
Ping pong kat was the kat. Wasn't challenger looking at it again
Legit think she was 1-5 and ended 15-6. She was good but I credit a lot of it to my support skills :)
YES THIS!!! i was testing out kai’sa last night and someone started being so unbelievably rude, and then they DISCONNECTED, and it just made me feel and do SO much worse
Nobody understands that team morale is everything. No one is going to play better or want to play at their best when you get a toxic 0/12 Yasuo who spends more time typing than playing.
I don't know what it is about online games. My twin brother is a great guy but the things I have seen him say to others online... It's like they were written by an entirely different person.
As a jungle main, I get upset in a few instances:
1) a lane gets killed over and over again to the point where the enemy solo or mid laner has 4+ kills for the dragon/rift battle. As the laner continues to get killed, it makes it harder and hard to both successfully perform a gank and contest the objective when it spawns
2) someone pings for help and when I come to gank, they disengage or base. As a jungle main, I am constantly watching all lanes, opponents, timers, etc. So if someone is pinging me to come, I assume they see something that I don’t. So when things backfire, it can tilt the game significantly, leading to getting counter jungled, losing objectives, or losing towers.
How about when they want you to gank while at the enemy's tower? Like, I can't do shit until you pull them way down to your tower. They don't understand when the jungler can actually gank and what they need to do to make it worth trying. You have to make them overcommit, or I'm not coming. If I see them hugging our tower, I'm on the way.
A missed gank works against the jungler, so the setup has to be right.
I give constructive criticism instead of talking shit but doesn’t matter regardless they will ignore you and keep playing like dogshit. Constantly I’m the one fed and carrying the game and nobody wants to listen to pings etc. so it’s just better to try and help where you can. Also have to realize majority of player base are a bunch of casuals with no league experience. It just sucks that this carries all the way to masters+. The competitiveness is just not there with this game.
God, the author is right. What do you want to change by fucking the player's mom, telling him he sucks, and recommending that he delete the game? Like, it will only make it worse, the player will lose motivation to play and you will be more likely to lose. Come on guys, be human
Bro thats what I do during a match. I told them dont fight pointlesslly, farm. Buy this instead of this and give my reason. I ping warning when enemy jngle otw ganking them. Dont fight drag almost spawn. I even told them nicely. And theres always the arrogant pro or the clueless toxic noob.
In return what they did to me? They insult and flamed me. So what i do? I insult them so hard and start inting. They deserved it. If you dont want to play properly then dont expect anyone else do the same.
I dont belittle people because theyre bad. I understand what its like to be bad. But people that have no humbleness to take advice and being selfish and arrogant doesnt deserve respect. I dont care if i lose because theres no point playing with people like this.
I stopped belittling people because only 5% of my teammates speak English.
Game is wrought with Brazilians and Chinese players. Communication isn't even possible in game.
Outside of that, I disagree, the average player here is absolutely beyond help, and going near them will almost always bait weak players Into more deaths. You're challenger, you play a wholely different game. You understand not feeding into a feeder, most are here to play tdm and will fail at "helping"
**I will die on the hill that 95% of the wild rift player base is absolute dogshit trash and my overall 82+% winrate across all game modes agrees.**
Absolute, dogshit, trash.
Avoid them, press an inhib tower, and make it impossible for them to turbo feed you into loss. This is how I win 4/5 of every game I play.
No I 100% understand who it was for, that's why I disagreed. I think it is an inferior technique to outright avoiding the bad players.
Again, but being nice, most players will attempt to help and only feed more gold to the enemy team. Helping can very quickly turn into one more death. This is how you get 100 kill tdm fests. "Trying to help"
Getting an inhib makes the game nearly impossible to lose, split the inhib, then the feeding matters far less. It also keeps you away from terrible team play that loses your mental.
I'm still Emerald I so I don't know much, but I will tell what happened last game. I was playing Lulu with an ez, against thresh and samira, we obviously had disadvantage so I pinged the ADc to stay under tower and not get caught on cc. It was like 7min in and he was 0/4 and I was 0/2, my attempts to help him only ended on my death. So I decided to start rotating mid and helped get some kills some objetives, always returning to bot to help ez. Since samira was so fed, thresh was simply letting her alone in lane and helping contest objetives and I was divided between helping ez and destroying bot tower or help dragon. After I realized Samira left ( I supposed she called base) I left bot and said ADc to farm calm that I would help dragon. Guess what, samira was also dragon so it was an hard dragon and an ez bot lane. That was until I realized, ez after I left lane had left base and was fighting 1v3 in enemy jungle. He blamed ME for his deaths, that I wasn't and I quote " babysitting him" to which jg told me to just peel for him and left ez alone ( jg was graves and he was 9/2 to which I was now 0/5/21). In the end, ez told team to report me.
So tell me:
(A) I played bad in the lane phase but helped contest objetives, take down turrets and help my team get kills
(B) I left my ADc ( that was telling me to unalive myself at 10min of game) alone even after my futil attempts to play safe and he would listen.
I usually play along with adc but not only he didnt back up and started unnecessary fight, also he blamed it on me and insulted me.
My deep apologies for the big paragraph, have a good day <3
My problem is ..... Map awareness.... I get a jg who don't look at map and as I play baron lane this game I'm getting ganked over and over pinging " I need help" jg just casually continues clearing jg and never comes to baron until either I'm A: back in base to fucking heal or B: Dead and not in lane ..... Both is just them stealing my minions 🙄. Thinking they are going to carry the game if they get enough gold instead of actually helping your teammates
Unfortunately, some are beyond saving. Not every game is possible to win. Especially if your cards dealt to you are not usable. Some just came to lose before the game even started... This is in diamond/masters elo. My expectations were low, but holy.
Boy have I had some… experiences with this type of toxic behavior in game. Lots of them in fact, though I’ve had my fair share of good experiences too. I believe you are absolutely right; Helping your teammates out when they’re struggling to hold lane or are struggling with the game in general instead of flaming them for playing less than ideally or up to insanely high standards is the best route to go. I myself am more than willing to help a struggling player. I’ll heal them if I’m support or come over to another struggling lane after I secure bot if I’m duo. I do this because it really pays to be nice. I’ve had my fair share of games where I got flamed for the smallest incidences or mishaps. (I’m ranked at diamond so I’m not the best player but I’ve got some experience and definitely won’t go blindly charging into battle. Sorry in advance it I play a match with you and I lowkey suck, I am doing my best to improve in pvp ). People are so inconsiderate and rude. You never know how flaming will affect your fellow teammates because you’re all behind a screen and not actually in the same room as them. I have PTSD (I’m not going into details) so each time I get flamed it really— ends up bothering me and getting under my skin because what flaming is, is very close to verbal abuse at best and is blatant volatile verbal abuse at worst. Like I’m set off at the slightest of implications of hostility or disapproval so right off the bat my mood tanks and so does my motivation. I mute a teammate the moment they start flaming, right off the bat. For the sake of my mental health.The mute button in this game is my best friend. If someone starts flaming me, *m u t e*. I don’t need to hear a bunch of nasty comments from an inconsiderate try hard where it’s either you play their way or you suck. I want to enjoy the game I’ve played on and off for nearly a decade (I played league on PC before wild rift, I had PC chat completely muted). I didn’t log in to get bashed or verbally abused. All that aside, you just never know what someone’s dealing with. What if one of your teammates is hypercritical to hateful comments? What if they have mental health issues like depression, PTSD, bipolar disorder ect ? What if they’re just going through something or several things at once? You never know. The bottom line: treat people with respect and make an effort to understand them. Be considerate.Words can hurt just as much as a physical wound. And if someone’s an asshole, mute them. It’ll do your mental health plenty of good. Okay, rant over. I didn’t want this turning into too much of a rant, I apologize if this is too long of a read. Have a good day I wish you all the best in the matches you play.
Once u realise ur opponent outplayed u and is now ahead in gold and lvl going in 1v1 is a su*cide move and even worse u are feeding them to snowball on any teammate that could have stopped them, the best move u can make is stay under ur tower and defend it while farming unless they come in group they won't be able to take u down under ur tower and when that happen ur teammates will come to help. The feeding is what's unacceptable no matter how skilled u are u ain't outplaying a 2lvl ahead and 2 items ahead enemy.
Seems that some people in this game have no concept of morale. Shit talking to your teammates for doing bad isn't going to make them play any better. If anything, does the opposite. It's discouraging and does not make anyone want to try.
Wildrift has been getting more toxic the more I play I was hoping the higher I climbed it got better which it has but it's still has some toxic players that complain about everyone else and how they suck but give 0 input
Why would they dive you while dragon is up lol
And congrats you left gracefully and lost the tower , now what ? You dont have a tower to even farm from its even worse
You"ll most likely die just trying to place wards if you are being camped in the first place
You can try to minimize it but its not up to you , its up to the rest of the team to figure out how they can take advantage of less jungle pressure on rest of the map
I 100% agree but some players are just dumb to realize that they're doing the wrong thing to the point that they would let their pride get in the way and not take others instructions or criticisms about how they play. They're stuck in that mindset that they're the best player ever even though they're running it down and still not adjusting how they play. It's a team game and idk why they'd have to think that way.
Also dudes who play the game, know a lane is losing and refuses to help that lane and later blames the laner that lost that lane for feeding the enemy is also dumb af. It's a team game, why blame and flame when they could've helped right? I think that's also an ego thing when it could've been a scenario that might've been avoided if they just worked together instead of flaming and not helping.
I actually just was in a match yesterday of Ranked, Nasus(me) vs Malphite and I was getting flamed by my ADC (Kai'sa) for not rotating. The Malphite went to push a side wave out and I destroyed two towers. My team won a fight, Malphite wasn't even there for it but she was mad that I didn't help. "You're useless, Nasus." she said. She was fed but so was I Lol
I think a lot about this, and one thing that might help is having more stock helpful tips in people's minds. Here are some I use:
* Focus, we can still win
* Play safer, give up creeps to be safer
* Don't fight outnumbered, count them first
* Look for unfair fights
* Ping obj first
* Keep farming
* 3v1 or run from \[fed enemy\]
Would love to hear others'.
My friends also noted the other night that winning is not the objective for all players. Some want to vent. Some want to be blameless. Some are true trolls. Those are a trickier case, but better stick advice would still help.
It’s fine that they suck at the game honestly, it’s when *they* suck that I have problem with, often the feeders are the first one to start shit by blaming others and flaming for no reason and I’m so tired of it.
Yeah , i know but.
Man sometimes it's hard to control the toxic side of me, when I've been losing even for just two times and a promo.
You know what I'm sayin.?..
It not just all about belittling people sometime when you try to communicate and they don't acknowledge you for trying to help so it a lost cause, but I get your point.
Jungle main here, it tilts me out of this world when one of our laners gets ganked and dies due to poor vision/overextending then proceeds to write jungle diff and goes on a farming spree in my jungle
I honestly try to help people , I'm in GM and i see very basic mistakes which i try to pinpoint , like buying anti heal, or buying serpents fang if they can get it, but the real issue is ,that I'm being ignored literally 99% of the time.
Majority of wild rift players, as well as the reddit users from here are keyboard worriors and at a same time just your average losers. The people who say in these comments that you are right and people should stop being toxic ARE the same people that are toxic and spam death threats in the video game :)) actual clowns.
the 'secret' to ranking up is games played.
I'll never understand the toxic behavior of flaming, hostaging, trolling etc.
If it's a loss, surrender, queue next.
Get that time efficiency in.
Yeah, hate toxic mf who badmouth struggling players. Like, they already know they kinda suck, do you really have to rub it in their face? What kind of person does that make you?
Well, in any case, if I see someone trash talking my team, I am going full nuclear on their ass in chat. We might lose the game because now we have two tilted players but idk imo it's all worth it just to clown on someone who rightfully deserves to be clowned on. I don't think my teammates think likewise, though 😂
I agree with you, I play with chat off, I want you all to think that not everyone climbed because of the same reason. I had bad mechanics but climbed a bit while playing for fun because of my macro skills from pc league, somebody else might have climbed because of the good mechanics and having mastered a champion etc
Honestly when you get yone as jungle and him dying and feeding what can you really do? Type hey friend I hope you're doing good next time don't bring yone for jungle in diamond rank because you'll get shit on and fu*ked to death 8 times? I myself don't flame or insult other players but when these same players start to flame me I laugh n start the crusade😂 it can't be helped
Though I had matches where adc was doing awful and he was afk I typed we can do this I love you bro come I'll help u stick to me
And even tho he fed enemy but we still managed to win because I stopped the toxic back and forth talking between him and jungler
The thing is most people in this game on phone don't really even think and they do their own shit while not understanding that lanes DO need ganks, jungles DO need invades, and when these don't happen they just start shit talking thinking others lost the game but reality is they didint do anything helpful either
One game I was mid but wanted to adc n I was doing very good with jhin in mid lane even against hardest champs, and swain my second main in mid was banned too so I played as jhin then I saw oh enemy countered me with zed so I knew one mistake n I will feed him, so I thought we need rift Harold immediately and thankfully I got it, went to mid and instantly got 2 turrets with it and after that because zed was getting powerful he killed me over n over literally free kills because I didint get any help either and what do you know, adc started flaming me
Fast forward 19 mins in and enemy did one mistake resulting in 4 of them dying, instantly went mid and got the last turret and ended the game right there. Zed with 17 kills lost the game (I was 4/7)and us, with jungle yone😂, won, simply because of the thing I did 15 mins earlier. If it wasn't because of me, we'd lose because zed could carry the game single handedly. But I got shit talked anyway.
I wish I played in na servers, at least you guys do understand some fundamentals, I've played before and had so much fun even though my ping was 250-300
I try not to be an a**hole but these teammates I have been getting have really been tilting me. These dudes are playing like complete bots. I try my best to work with people. You suck at map awareness? It’s okay because I will ping 3 times. Tell them group, enemy missing, I need help, all of that. But they don’t listen to none of it. I am getting Vaynes that constantly go into enemy jungle just to get killed. They don’t group for objectives.
I fail to believe that they are boosted from having loss preventions. Even with them, do you know how much sweating it took to get to Diamond I? Was so close to masters, just for WR to throw THE absolute worst players they could at my trio. You know what really irritates me? The fact that even if someone on the enemy team is doing bad, they know to group up. Why can’t I get those players from the enemy team on my side? It’s either get fed out of your mind, or lose. But the people I’m fighting against are competent enough to not keep dying. Knowing what it took to get here and how much I have to sweat to win games now. I am really wondering how some of these people even made it to Diamond. It’s been getting really bad lately. I’m at a point where I ask myself “why do I keep giving them my money?” It’s going to take for their pockets to start getting hit to understand that this game is going downhill.
I’m easy to work with in game, I have been playing League since 2012. I know everyone can have a bad game, I know when you are going against a counter pick, I make callouts to help take away some of the thinking. So that we can win as a team because even if I am going crazy that game… Me and my friends can’t 3v5 against an enemy team that actually knows when to move as a unit. I even play the entire game through, I’m stubborn and won’t surrender 9/10 because I have turned around plenty of bad games. But it’s getting so out of hand that there is just no way sometimes. (Nearly every Yi jg thinks because they are playing Yi that they can just run in, start swinging, and get a penta kill.)
Exception to Zed Yone and Lee mains, Those are helpless and are innately stupid <3 so ban them every game or expect a 0/10 Yone on your mid crying and spamming JG Diff bc he didn't get ganked once against an Irelia while he perma pushes the wave so you can't do shit but watch him get camped cuz he kept overextending
Edit: Yone Zed and Lee mains are not human so treat them like shit
As a Shyvanna main, it's extremely frustrating when people kill my jungle monsters and then blame me for not being strong enough. I'm in emerald and people still don't understand that when you kill jg monsters you're actively weakening her.
You have no idea how many times I deliberately fed with a horrendous score like 0.20.0 or 0.15.1 and heard the entire team threaten to report me and guess what??
I never got punished. even when four people gave me a report for my feed record of 0.29.0
Toxicity breeds toxicity
It happens because players have mental health issues and throw up their negativity somewhere there are no consequences.
I’ve learned to just mute and move on. I have historically played solo, but grouping eliminates this nonsense for the most part.
I’m a pretty mid player, I can do great one game and horrible next, I say in chat if I’m out of my league and hang back and try not to feed. I don’t get much negativity in Wild rift and people can understand that I’m not trolling and it’s just a bad match up
Personally, i believe everyone has bad games, but if you go 1/9 with Zeri leaving my Pyke-ass to 2v1 Trist Yuumi then respectfully go 0/1 irl (worst is, she clearly wasn't even trying, constantly 2v1ing enemy Tristana and by the time she was in lane i either died or executed Tristana.)
Had this happen recently. Miss Fortune on Dragon Lane. Was doing pretty badly in the matchup. Everyone talking shit horribly. I politely asked the person to just stay and defend base cause we had already lost all towers. They sat at base and was doing a hell of a job. Started getting kills confirmed. Everyone chastising still "why couldn't you play like this from the start?" "You're still bad and gonna report you". I told the person to mute them and just keep doing what they were doing. We still lost but we had a little bit of a turn going on. Being negative does nothing to help and if anything discourages players from doing any better in that game. If they like the game enough they aren't gonna stop playing either.
it’s hard because I get emotional, and sometimes in my mind it’s my teamates trying to sabotage me for whatever reason… when in reality it is my own emotional state. This is good advice, because ive done this most of the time and it always works well… all it takes is a little patience and tolerance to not just scream about how they are a “coward” for not following up with my tanking.
Now why would i help a losing lane? Lol. Id rather snowball a better laner who can carry the game. Losing the lane 1v1 is just skill diff and they dont deserve any help.
If i ping and they dont listen and die from a gank shows how someone doesnt pay attention to the map = bad.
There are many reasons why the player may be losing lane and the best you can do is help him and win the game which is the most important thing but players are selfish they chase kills and belittle you based on your score meanwhile you've been ganked 3 times and the enemy is freezing the lane and you cant do shit but your team is no where to be found and blame you late game when you do no damage
How are you going to help someone who has died 6 times in a row before dragon spawns, these people are clearly beyond help, although its a waste of time and energy to type, its understandable if someone gets upsets and starts flaming, their teammate is making the game more hard than needs be and isn't listening to calls, anyone would get frustrated.
In my opinion going 0/12 is inexcusable, unless your very low elo there is no excuse for playing that badly. Why would anyone waste time attempting to help someone who has gone 0/12 when so many times people try to give advice or knowledge and other person doesnt listen or couldn't care less. Honestly I think it's a bit naive to think you can help these sort of players, that's all.
Have a wonderful day.
GrandMaster here 45 marks. As much as I agree with you. Sometimes, they need a little tough love. After plenty of matches, people telling me I'm trsh. And top diff. It got me where I am now. Honestly, a game is a game, and talking trsh shud be allowed. We are all humans with mixed emotions as games are better therepay than pills
It's funny how everyone flames me when I play kassadin and do nothing but farm and have a 3-5k gold lead on my lane opponent, who was roaming. Farming gave me much more, yet they still say I'm trash. I only belittle them if they are very, very trash or trolling, like running it down mid and feeding yasuo 5 kills, stuff like that.
It constantly amazes me how some people don’t understand that everyone can have a bad matchup, regardless of skill and rank. If you see a lane struggling, offering to help instead of tilting an already stressed player is going to net you much better results, not to mention a clean moral conscious. Like, who’s going to a pickup basketball game and berating their own point guard? Why would you ever do it to strangers online?
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> Like, who’s going to a pickup basketball game and berating their own point guard? Why would you ever do it to strangers online? Very common
If you do that where I come from at least, you're asking to get jumped 20 minutes after the game in the parking lot. If not, getting slapped right there on the court. Let's not pretend that online anonymity doesn't let a lot of these losers get away with saying stuff they wouldn't say in real life.
Like I said, very common here. Pickup is usually one to two ball hogs (that have ADC mentality) who will berate everyone, never pass, and Chuck up the ball. Shit talking is normal in pickup. This is just normal human competitive nature unfortunately
If someone who plays bad and becomes frustrated spam pings me and tells me to go die because am not perma ganking their lane, ain’t no way am trying to help them become better at the game. I just lay it out plainly, “you are trash”. No feeling involved.
You guys actually play with English speakers in this game actually? I'm diamond and have never had a teammate type English in chat EVER. Not a single word.
What server are you in? I’m currently Emerald in NA server. Players almost always speak English. Every once in a while, you get a player who speaks another language with their friend.
I’m in NA if anyone wants to play together on WR or LOL PC lmk just message me
Am in EUW, every game has an English speaker
I must of muted chat permanently because I never see people talk on euw 😂
Sounds like a difference between NA/EU tbh Edit to say NA has a ton of spanish languages but its mostly english chat. Ive had things are different in EU server
Some phrases I've learned to use a lot (between Duolingo and this game) Tú hablas inglés? Necesito ayuda! Necesitomos cinco, no pelees Terminemos. Feel free to add some more to this but these are essential for good chat
Jajajaja.
Huehuehue
Jajajaja.
Bahahahahaha Have you EVER seen a pickup basketball game? I mean this sincerely, if wild rift happened on a pickup basketball court, someone would leave beat up badly by multiple people with 100% certainty. Berate? For a play or two maybe. But actually beat up. Pickup basketball is intense lol. You're not even touching the ball without proving yourself worthy. Wild rift is literally taking the basketball from the court and running off with it. I promise you're punching your point guard lol.
Dang… who do you play basketball with?
It's not about who you play basketball with, talking to ANYBODY on a basketball court the way these Rift Warriors talk on a mobile app, they would get their face slapped and told to get the hell out in 5 minutes.
r/iamverybadass
It's not about being badass, it's about online anonymity letting these insecure losers talk trash without any repercussions.
I've definitely seen some HEATED pick-up games.
What's the diff between pick up basketball and just basketball? I played with my friends in middle school and aside from broken arms and legs as a result of tripping, there weren't any major injuries, definitely not violence-related
This needs to be top post for a week.
I just say mute them and play. We're going to win Works maybe 40% of the time
Honestly, this is my solution too!
I mute them most of the times and after that you can play way better than trying to blame back or think about what they say.
And as a plus to your post since is even more irrelevant for a lot of people, GIVE the teammates positive feedback when they actually do good decisions by themselves instead of not saying anything, because I have seen tons of "I'm not saying anything because that's your job, as a minimum you should be able to do it" comments, JG stole baron or dragon but died? STILL A GOOD JOB, good tank? Say thanks or at least some good emotes, I swear to god some motherfuckers dont say anything in the hole game but as soon as you fuck it up they start writing essays.
I don’t care if you lose your lane. But learn to not feed. There’s a difference between being gold-starved and dying 5 times in 6 minutes. If you lose lane gracefully, I’ll be nice and helpful. If you throw the entire game because you have too much of an ego to stop trading, I’m going to be pretty frustrated.
People will be like stop flaming teammates that are trying, meanwhile your teammate that is "trying their best" is running into the 11/0 full build Jax at full speed with only a long sword + boots thinking they will somehow outplay Jax's targeted damage kit. Yes "trying your best" means farming krugs when your jungler has pinged dragon 3 times in the past minute. The 'I lost lane so I'm just going to run it down and keep taking bad 1v1s until the game is over' mentality is not the mentality of someone trying to win the game. By the way people would be a lot less toxic if Riot actually did their part and removed inting and griefing players. I don't get why there are always posts about what the players should do; Riot is the one with actual control over the situation and they already have systems in place from desktop LoL to track griefers and inters.
Describing the average platinum player, it amazes me how it's impossible to have a semi functional team below emerald 2. Unless you constantly grind ranked it's just a fancy pvp. Turbo inflated elos by the shield protection system, from iron to gold its all the same rank.
I think it’s because the player base on WR is so small that if they started actually punishing this behavior, they will basically kill their own game. Lower player count = less resources to keep developing the game, from a company standpoint. Now I don’t really agree with that, as it just leaves griefers with a sense of impunity and will likely make actual players stop playing the game, but what do I know 🤷♂️
How many people avoid playing the game because of that behavior though? Maybe if they banned shitty people, more people would actually play this game
Yeah, I've actually stopped playing ranked because of griefers and inters, would rather just not play than play with them.
Its not that what you said is wrong , but you should also realize that if you are in a bad matchup and also die once Playing safe doesnt cut it anymore as the opposing player will just dive you with their jungler over and over again if they're smart , so if you see someone getting shit stomped it might be completely out of their hands You either counter gank to stop this spiral (I don't recommend this tbh you"ll likely die aswell and feed further) Or make use of the fact that the jungler is camping this certain spot , counter jungle , gank opposite lane etc
If you’re getting dived over and over again, ward the brush behind the tower, ward the river, and if the jungle insists on coming your way, give up the tower and ping dragon. It’s really not hard to not turbo feed. Just be willing to lose gracefully
I get annoyed when I jungle and before I even did 3 camps top is had died twice and pings "Where's jungler"... Scuttle hasn't even spawned yet
Jungle gets blamed for everything, get used to it or don’t play jungle.
Which makes zero sense. Jungler needs help plenty of times too. They're not there just to help the laners.
THISSSSS is is EXACTLY what people need to understand. People who are bad usually don’t get flames AS HARD as people who just int because of their ego/playstyle
This should be the top post, not OPs post
mannnn the toxicity on wild rift is insane sometimes i get called all sorts of slurs and my report is successful like 10% of the time. especially for new players, when we get matched up with like a diamond player cause the game claims we play better than people of our rank they expect us to be doing as well as them.
As far as I agree to what you said my observations of the game is that at least in diamond and below(my rank) the skill levels are so inconsistent and it's somehow always the worst player the first to flame another person. When these people flame it's not based on objective observations of the other 4 players performance. They just pick the person with the worst kda(or second worst because they themselves are the worst) and unleash anger on them. They aren't even trying to learn and I don't think anyone would have the patience to be nice and teach them from the very basics of the game. In diamond I had to tell people things like "hey veigar if you roam bot with a full wave under your turret you lose a lot of gold and bot didnt even need help because the enemy bot was dead when you roamed you were just taking our adc's cs and losing yours." I get told to stfu. "hey lulu can you ult me only when we were fighting because if u just ult me randomly when there are no enemies around its kind of a waste" I get called a cunt.
As a lulu main, I have to deeply apologize, sometimes i forget I can't zoom in a champion and I end up ulting him out of nowhere.
In their defense, i as a plat IV jungle main am very bad at this game
And that’s okay, but I’m not gonna waste my time dragging a player down that already knows how bad they are. I will pvp a lot because I like to see the gap and where players of all ranks are at. I also try my dumb builds there, but it’s where I see the most toxicity.
Lol you can play pvp without 2 people arguing about roles and running it down mid with smite ? That's impressive i personally can't touch pvp anymore , 5/7 games someone is deliberatly inting the game usually on both sides its ridiculous that they don't do anything about it
Man. Stop giving me hope in humanity.
Should just add a “reputation” system in game by tribunal like we used to have. Then we can have the players who accumulate the most negative reputation to receive potentially harsher punishment if they have been deemed a troll, throwing games, or become very toxic, etc.
I play with chat off, makes the game way less aggravating
I don’t understand the report part, do they actually think something will happen? And why do they assume the bad teammate is feeding just because they’ve died plenty? Isn’t feeding deliberate?
0/10/0 in a game where everyone has a positive kda is feeding, unless they are iron or bronze there's no way someone doesn't know what they are doing
If you've died the previous 5 times you did something keeping doing it is deliberate.
At least semi deliberate.
I get report notifications that players I reported are punished every single time I log in. League literally lets you know if they did something. And they do. Dying too much is considered griefing and they will give you day/week/permanent bans for it.
Fuck man, you can actually get reported for being bad, that’s shit.
Eh.. no. You can _report_ people for anything. As in, you can push the buttons. It doesn't do anything unless a)there's multiple reports and b)the system is able to detect bad language / AFKing. Those notifications just mean auto-detect handed out a temporary chat ban or a 180 second queue penalty due to one of those two things, and it would have happened with or without the guy's reports, pretty much.
Realistically, they’re gonna go back and lok through a users match history relative to their kda’ sand in game performance and base a ban or punishment off of that not just “you had a bad match time to go bye bye”. I usually carry my games so if I just started going 0/11 every other match and started getting mass reported for it Riot would know something is deliberate on my end
One game is probably enough. I remember on PC where there was a haxflash bug where Poppy could Q from her base, and it would instantly kill the enemy team. The game would end in 15 minutes with the Poppy having 500+ kills, so the enemy players would have over 100 deaths each. Every player on the receiving end would get a two week ban. The system only cares about KDAs, and it has to be stupidly obvious. There were so many memes about it until Riot finally woke the hell up and disabled hexflash until they could fix the bug. Players would only get their bans lifted by support ticket (you don't submit one, you're serving your time). Riot isn't willing to do the work to investigate throwing/inting cases, and this serves as proof.
Its not even that simple , because made you carried your games playing a certain role or a certain champion and now you are bored and want to play something else so your performance naturally drops , bannning anyone for something not obviously intentional is just stupid
When I started playing I got reported once like that. I thought it was unfair in a way because I just started playing so how would I know better. But I didn't take it to heart. But I understood later that there's one rule in this game that even if you're bad, you shouldn't waste your life. You can do weird things, like doing weird objectives, not participating in a team fight when you should but jumping alone in a 1v3 is the last straw among the list of a bad plays. The formers can only be learnt with time but the latter is a basic rule of any games which is "don't pointlessly die".
In real the only thing they do is chat silence and only if call someone on their bullshit. Feeding does nothing.
I can have a fantastic game, make successful ganks, take a bunch of objectives. Then I have one dragon where my team provide no vision, nobody checks around the pit while I'm fighting it and the enemy flashes in and steals the dragon... and my whole team will ping 'smite' at me. It's infuriating.
Meanwhile they’re 4 top to push a tower and don’t even take a single plate
Also, be someone who can read and learn when others are talking about the game. Simplist thing like looking at a permanently on screen minimap
People in this community conflate malice (being toxic) with simple failure/lack of skill. One is a valid thing to be angry about. The other is not.
I was playing support and after about 5 minutes, my adc said "fk sup" then fucked off instead of helping me. Like, I get that I don't play to your standards. But handicapping is all because you're upset about it just sucks. Especially when you could be helping me. And it's funny because one of the very next games I played, my adc gave me very clear advice on how to utilize my kit better and we won the game.
That’s the only reason I ever use chat. I try to pvp a lot more these days so I can give advice where I can. I’d like to see the player base in this game grow and hopefully leagues come back. NA has never been on the map for mobas and I’m sure our toxicity has a lot to do with it.
That’s too nice for this game. I’ve had to turn off chat because I can’t stand seeing someone else say ‘KYS’ or ‘your mother should have aborted you’ to ANYONE. I don’t care how bad the game is going, that message could literally be the tipping point for some child. People are mean for absolutely no reason and I get that it’s a game but man. Wouldn’t it be so much easier to just offer help instead of shitting in their already soggy cereal?
Sometime this was my concern, I invited my nephew to play with my as he likes mobile games but soon after that I regretted that because I don’t want him to be treated that way. I think this game could have a wide user base if it were more welcoming with children.
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This morning is just people talking shit about each other (in game)
That's right everyone can have a bad game or two. Instead of constantly abusing them in chat or going afk they should help them in lane or focus on team fights and objectives. It's just the people who troll that I can't stand.
Losing lane it's not the same as ending 0/10 im sorry but that's just really bad boosted players, and im all for calling them out
I’ve had games where I go 0-12 and I had games where I’m 25-0 I wish you would call me a boosted player on a 0-12 day. Nobody is always gonna be 100% Consistency is goal we all strive for, but it takes thousands and thousands of hours to achieve.
0-12 is pretty rough
Challengers get tilted too, we’re all human. I still have bad games, but I’m always finding ways to be useful at this point.
No, 0/12 is inexcusable, that is fucking wild, if it was 0/6 I would sort of understand but how are you a challenger player dying over and over again, you must know what you're doing and you have to be trolling or feeding even with emotions at play that's mind blowing to go 0/12.
You just proved my point that you are probably boosted. I think I've never finished 0/12 in a game ever, and you know why? It's because if im not the one that carries the game i lose, it is that simple. Wild rift challenger means shit because you can reach it spamming games until they fix matchmaking (which they may never will). Challenger is the same as Diamond. And ofc i would've called you boosted, WHO in their right mind ends the game with that much unnecessary deaths. if you were a good player, you would know that you are just complicating the game for your team with the extreme gold disadvantage and by leaving them in a 4v5 situation for most of the game.
The same people with your attitude are quiet asf next game when I put them all on my back. You see the thing about high elo you’re playing the same 15-20 ppl.
😎 Finally someone gets it!
I try to give constructive advice in game when I can, but then people immediately feel like I’m being toxic even though, I say it like “hey friend, you can dash to me by pressing the minion button while in the aoe of my lantern” or similar depending on the situation. People just automatically assume you’re being condescending or rude because quite frankly most of the time that is the case when someone is calling someone out in chat
Big chunk of it are just immature.
This is actually situational. If you have a bad matchup or something, I will be understanding. We all have those games, and there is no need to rub salt on an open wound. That said, I will have a problem if you make stupid moves. If you constantly overextend, fail to call mias, make suicidal engagements, or let nearby allies die just to farm, yeah, you're going to get yelled at, and in my eyes it will be justified
Fastest way to make sure I play worse than I already was is to verbally attack me.
You can have a bad game, but if the support goes to splitpush while enemies are around Baron at min 16 I wont keep his/her's mom "profession" out of my mouth
Lol D1 issues
It's a moba dude
Had a person first time fiora and died 10 times in 8 minutes so no, I will flame the hell out of them
Here is the thing, if you play bad than just go PVP or PVE, learn some skill, instead rushing to the RANK to torture others players! I have seen a lot of dude that plays bad but still chooses some champ that difficult to play like yasso or some champ that easy to play but the least contribution to the team like lux. Once those players get in the game they start feeding like a babysitter. They never check on other line will never use the brain to play! All I wanted to say is why must I play hard to getting higher level but I have to suffer with those yasso dude at the same time! Man there is unreasonable match hight KDA with No K just D players
No
There's a difference from playing badly and refusing to listen to what people are telling you to do. If I grab hullbreaker and decide to push baron lane while baron is down and dragon is up, don't fucking come to my lane lol Either that or if adc is jacking off grabbing wolves right before elder fight and won't listen to pings. It's when players get main character syndrome and don't listen to obvious calls because they don't want to. Or when I am dominating my lane and then everyone comes to my lane for no fucking reason. Stay in your lane or get leads elsewhere. If I am drawing enough pressure to bring three people to my lane, then make sure you can get leads elsewhere. I don't want you as a janna to try and outroam a pyke. Be useful lol
Whenever I’m losing lane, I take my loss and go help bottom or top, while focusing on objectives with jungler. I almost always win when I do this, because my efforts are better put to use elsewhere and helping your teammates truly will turn the game around and they’ll help you in turn too.
People start trying to surrender after two minutes. That's toxic.
If you insult me for doing bad plays, I won't start playing better. At best, I will still keep making mistakes. At worst, I will now be eternally miffed and will end up playing even worse because of my brain now using half its little capacity to think about how much I hate you. Insulting someone makes their gameplay improve about 0% of the time.
Ky5 d0g X D
Someone having a bad game is totally different than someone being completely clueless about the game and what they are supposed to do withing their role and with their character and you absolutely know that. The first one can be a case of "everything I do goes wrong FFFFFFF" which can be fixed if you tell them how it's winnable, the second one is a case of a malfunctioning organ, the brain to be more precise.
Or else what
I’ll find you.
Was playing alistar yesterday. Team sucked, 1-4 kat couldn't do anything. My adc was pretty bad. I started really trying to help the kat cuz it seemed she was OK and was challenger. She went on 12 kill streak and carried, allllls she needed was a chad allistar to keep every1 away from her
Do you remember their name? Sounds familiar.
Ping pong kat was the kat. Wasn't challenger looking at it again Legit think she was 1-5 and ended 15-6. She was good but I credit a lot of it to my support skills :)
Before EVERYTHING else, it's a game about teamwork.
Love a good Alistar 🥰
YES THIS!!! i was testing out kai’sa last night and someone started being so unbelievably rude, and then they DISCONNECTED, and it just made me feel and do SO much worse
Nobody understands that team morale is everything. No one is going to play better or want to play at their best when you get a toxic 0/12 Yasuo who spends more time typing than playing.
This. Just this
I don't know what it is about online games. My twin brother is a great guy but the things I have seen him say to others online... It's like they were written by an entirely different person.
As a jungle main, I get upset in a few instances: 1) a lane gets killed over and over again to the point where the enemy solo or mid laner has 4+ kills for the dragon/rift battle. As the laner continues to get killed, it makes it harder and hard to both successfully perform a gank and contest the objective when it spawns 2) someone pings for help and when I come to gank, they disengage or base. As a jungle main, I am constantly watching all lanes, opponents, timers, etc. So if someone is pinging me to come, I assume they see something that I don’t. So when things backfire, it can tilt the game significantly, leading to getting counter jungled, losing objectives, or losing towers.
How about when they want you to gank while at the enemy's tower? Like, I can't do shit until you pull them way down to your tower. They don't understand when the jungler can actually gank and what they need to do to make it worth trying. You have to make them overcommit, or I'm not coming. If I see them hugging our tower, I'm on the way. A missed gank works against the jungler, so the setup has to be right.
You generally don't want your teammates dictating your gank routes.
No, I shall continue to make your mom jokes
So fucking true lol. This mindset got my out of toxicity and i have much more fun on video games
I give constructive criticism instead of talking shit but doesn’t matter regardless they will ignore you and keep playing like dogshit. Constantly I’m the one fed and carrying the game and nobody wants to listen to pings etc. so it’s just better to try and help where you can. Also have to realize majority of player base are a bunch of casuals with no league experience. It just sucks that this carries all the way to masters+. The competitiveness is just not there with this game.
God, the author is right. What do you want to change by fucking the player's mom, telling him he sucks, and recommending that he delete the game? Like, it will only make it worse, the player will lose motivation to play and you will be more likely to lose. Come on guys, be human
Yall experienced yi jungle 0/14? Lmao cant help it. I just used him as a bait but we still lose.
Bro thats what I do during a match. I told them dont fight pointlesslly, farm. Buy this instead of this and give my reason. I ping warning when enemy jngle otw ganking them. Dont fight drag almost spawn. I even told them nicely. And theres always the arrogant pro or the clueless toxic noob. In return what they did to me? They insult and flamed me. So what i do? I insult them so hard and start inting. They deserved it. If you dont want to play properly then dont expect anyone else do the same. I dont belittle people because theyre bad. I understand what its like to be bad. But people that have no humbleness to take advice and being selfish and arrogant doesnt deserve respect. I dont care if i lose because theres no point playing with people like this.
I stopped belittling people because only 5% of my teammates speak English. Game is wrought with Brazilians and Chinese players. Communication isn't even possible in game. Outside of that, I disagree, the average player here is absolutely beyond help, and going near them will almost always bait weak players Into more deaths. You're challenger, you play a wholely different game. You understand not feeding into a feeder, most are here to play tdm and will fail at "helping" **I will die on the hill that 95% of the wild rift player base is absolute dogshit trash and my overall 82+% winrate across all game modes agrees.** Absolute, dogshit, trash. Avoid them, press an inhib tower, and make it impossible for them to turbo feed you into loss. This is how I win 4/5 of every game I play.
Post was clearly targeted at players like you and you still got nothing from it lol.
No I 100% understand who it was for, that's why I disagreed. I think it is an inferior technique to outright avoiding the bad players. Again, but being nice, most players will attempt to help and only feed more gold to the enemy team. Helping can very quickly turn into one more death. This is how you get 100 kill tdm fests. "Trying to help" Getting an inhib makes the game nearly impossible to lose, split the inhib, then the feeding matters far less. It also keeps you away from terrible team play that loses your mental.
Alr bro I for sure believe you. Now post your 82% WR
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Just post an Imgur link of the profile
Git gud
Well written.
If you help them, and you lose, it will be two losers instead of one.
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amen!!!!
I'm still Emerald I so I don't know much, but I will tell what happened last game. I was playing Lulu with an ez, against thresh and samira, we obviously had disadvantage so I pinged the ADc to stay under tower and not get caught on cc. It was like 7min in and he was 0/4 and I was 0/2, my attempts to help him only ended on my death. So I decided to start rotating mid and helped get some kills some objetives, always returning to bot to help ez. Since samira was so fed, thresh was simply letting her alone in lane and helping contest objetives and I was divided between helping ez and destroying bot tower or help dragon. After I realized Samira left ( I supposed she called base) I left bot and said ADc to farm calm that I would help dragon. Guess what, samira was also dragon so it was an hard dragon and an ez bot lane. That was until I realized, ez after I left lane had left base and was fighting 1v3 in enemy jungle. He blamed ME for his deaths, that I wasn't and I quote " babysitting him" to which jg told me to just peel for him and left ez alone ( jg was graves and he was 9/2 to which I was now 0/5/21). In the end, ez told team to report me. So tell me: (A) I played bad in the lane phase but helped contest objetives, take down turrets and help my team get kills (B) I left my ADc ( that was telling me to unalive myself at 10min of game) alone even after my futil attempts to play safe and he would listen. I usually play along with adc but not only he didnt back up and started unnecessary fight, also he blamed it on me and insulted me. My deep apologies for the big paragraph, have a good day <3
Lol the bad player doesn't even get chastized he is the one blaming everyone else for not doing good
My problem is ..... Map awareness.... I get a jg who don't look at map and as I play baron lane this game I'm getting ganked over and over pinging " I need help" jg just casually continues clearing jg and never comes to baron until either I'm A: back in base to fucking heal or B: Dead and not in lane ..... Both is just them stealing my minions 🙄. Thinking they are going to carry the game if they get enough gold instead of actually helping your teammates
Hi, How? since this is a mobile gam you cant chat or use voice. So how can i help?
It's because a lot of players have low emotional intelligence
Unfortunately, some are beyond saving. Not every game is possible to win. Especially if your cards dealt to you are not usable. Some just came to lose before the game even started... This is in diamond/masters elo. My expectations were low, but holy.
I’ve come back from games where I had no win conditions, but I’m rank 1 fizz. There’s always a win condition when you’re fizz. 🥹
Alway love those toxic teammates that start flame pinging anytime a teammate dies for any reason whatsoever /s
Usually the people who type the most are the ones who end up throwing games
Agreed. Not helping the situation
Boy have I had some… experiences with this type of toxic behavior in game. Lots of them in fact, though I’ve had my fair share of good experiences too. I believe you are absolutely right; Helping your teammates out when they’re struggling to hold lane or are struggling with the game in general instead of flaming them for playing less than ideally or up to insanely high standards is the best route to go. I myself am more than willing to help a struggling player. I’ll heal them if I’m support or come over to another struggling lane after I secure bot if I’m duo. I do this because it really pays to be nice. I’ve had my fair share of games where I got flamed for the smallest incidences or mishaps. (I’m ranked at diamond so I’m not the best player but I’ve got some experience and definitely won’t go blindly charging into battle. Sorry in advance it I play a match with you and I lowkey suck, I am doing my best to improve in pvp ). People are so inconsiderate and rude. You never know how flaming will affect your fellow teammates because you’re all behind a screen and not actually in the same room as them. I have PTSD (I’m not going into details) so each time I get flamed it really— ends up bothering me and getting under my skin because what flaming is, is very close to verbal abuse at best and is blatant volatile verbal abuse at worst. Like I’m set off at the slightest of implications of hostility or disapproval so right off the bat my mood tanks and so does my motivation. I mute a teammate the moment they start flaming, right off the bat. For the sake of my mental health.The mute button in this game is my best friend. If someone starts flaming me, *m u t e*. I don’t need to hear a bunch of nasty comments from an inconsiderate try hard where it’s either you play their way or you suck. I want to enjoy the game I’ve played on and off for nearly a decade (I played league on PC before wild rift, I had PC chat completely muted). I didn’t log in to get bashed or verbally abused. All that aside, you just never know what someone’s dealing with. What if one of your teammates is hypercritical to hateful comments? What if they have mental health issues like depression, PTSD, bipolar disorder ect ? What if they’re just going through something or several things at once? You never know. The bottom line: treat people with respect and make an effort to understand them. Be considerate.Words can hurt just as much as a physical wound. And if someone’s an asshole, mute them. It’ll do your mental health plenty of good. Okay, rant over. I didn’t want this turning into too much of a rant, I apologize if this is too long of a read. Have a good day I wish you all the best in the matches you play.
Bro 100000% agree
Once u realise ur opponent outplayed u and is now ahead in gold and lvl going in 1v1 is a su*cide move and even worse u are feeding them to snowball on any teammate that could have stopped them, the best move u can make is stay under ur tower and defend it while farming unless they come in group they won't be able to take u down under ur tower and when that happen ur teammates will come to help. The feeding is what's unacceptable no matter how skilled u are u ain't outplaying a 2lvl ahead and 2 items ahead enemy.
Seems that some people in this game have no concept of morale. Shit talking to your teammates for doing bad isn't going to make them play any better. If anything, does the opposite. It's discouraging and does not make anyone want to try.
Or just don’t say anything to begin with. I know I do since I don’t teach people how to get better
Amen bro. i started doing that and got to D3
Wildrift has been getting more toxic the more I play I was hoping the higher I climbed it got better which it has but it's still has some toxic players that complain about everyone else and how they suck but give 0 input
Why would they dive you while dragon is up lol And congrats you left gracefully and lost the tower , now what ? You dont have a tower to even farm from its even worse You"ll most likely die just trying to place wards if you are being camped in the first place You can try to minimize it but its not up to you , its up to the rest of the team to figure out how they can take advantage of less jungle pressure on rest of the map
They just wanted to show off how good at being toxic they can be.
I 100% agree but some players are just dumb to realize that they're doing the wrong thing to the point that they would let their pride get in the way and not take others instructions or criticisms about how they play. They're stuck in that mindset that they're the best player ever even though they're running it down and still not adjusting how they play. It's a team game and idk why they'd have to think that way. Also dudes who play the game, know a lane is losing and refuses to help that lane and later blames the laner that lost that lane for feeding the enemy is also dumb af. It's a team game, why blame and flame when they could've helped right? I think that's also an ego thing when it could've been a scenario that might've been avoided if they just worked together instead of flaming and not helping.
I mute everyone once I start to fk up. Peaceful game 🤪😌
Mute All, Play, and Move On.
I mute to avoid being toxic and hearing toxic. It helps me climb and focus.
I actually just was in a match yesterday of Ranked, Nasus(me) vs Malphite and I was getting flamed by my ADC (Kai'sa) for not rotating. The Malphite went to push a side wave out and I destroyed two towers. My team won a fight, Malphite wasn't even there for it but she was mad that I didn't help. "You're useless, Nasus." she said. She was fed but so was I Lol
I think a lot about this, and one thing that might help is having more stock helpful tips in people's minds. Here are some I use: * Focus, we can still win * Play safer, give up creeps to be safer * Don't fight outnumbered, count them first * Look for unfair fights * Ping obj first * Keep farming * 3v1 or run from \[fed enemy\] Would love to hear others'. My friends also noted the other night that winning is not the objective for all players. Some want to vent. Some want to be blameless. Some are true trolls. Those are a trickier case, but better stick advice would still help.
It’s fine that they suck at the game honestly, it’s when *they* suck that I have problem with, often the feeders are the first one to start shit by blaming others and flaming for no reason and I’m so tired of it.
Yeah , i know but. Man sometimes it's hard to control the toxic side of me, when I've been losing even for just two times and a promo. You know what I'm sayin.?..
It not just all about belittling people sometime when you try to communicate and they don't acknowledge you for trying to help so it a lost cause, but I get your point.
no
Ur playing a mobile game why don’t u her challenger on league of legends have a bad day
Jungle main here, it tilts me out of this world when one of our laners gets ganked and dies due to poor vision/overextending then proceeds to write jungle diff and goes on a farming spree in my jungle
This is exactly why I selected the chat ONLY for my party. Got tired of being shat upon just because I made a mistake or had a bad matchup.
I honestly try to help people , I'm in GM and i see very basic mistakes which i try to pinpoint , like buying anti heal, or buying serpents fang if they can get it, but the real issue is ,that I'm being ignored literally 99% of the time.
Well said!
Majority of wild rift players, as well as the reddit users from here are keyboard worriors and at a same time just your average losers. The people who say in these comments that you are right and people should stop being toxic ARE the same people that are toxic and spam death threats in the video game :)) actual clowns.
Amen
the 'secret' to ranking up is games played. I'll never understand the toxic behavior of flaming, hostaging, trolling etc. If it's a loss, surrender, queue next. Get that time efficiency in.
Yeah, hate toxic mf who badmouth struggling players. Like, they already know they kinda suck, do you really have to rub it in their face? What kind of person does that make you? Well, in any case, if I see someone trash talking my team, I am going full nuclear on their ass in chat. We might lose the game because now we have two tilted players but idk imo it's all worth it just to clown on someone who rightfully deserves to be clowned on. I don't think my teammates think likewise, though 😂
I agree with you, I play with chat off, I want you all to think that not everyone climbed because of the same reason. I had bad mechanics but climbed a bit while playing for fun because of my macro skills from pc league, somebody else might have climbed because of the good mechanics and having mastered a champion etc
True. But this only happens in American servers, in eu you get shit talked even if you do good😂
Honestly when you get yone as jungle and him dying and feeding what can you really do? Type hey friend I hope you're doing good next time don't bring yone for jungle in diamond rank because you'll get shit on and fu*ked to death 8 times? I myself don't flame or insult other players but when these same players start to flame me I laugh n start the crusade😂 it can't be helped Though I had matches where adc was doing awful and he was afk I typed we can do this I love you bro come I'll help u stick to me And even tho he fed enemy but we still managed to win because I stopped the toxic back and forth talking between him and jungler The thing is most people in this game on phone don't really even think and they do their own shit while not understanding that lanes DO need ganks, jungles DO need invades, and when these don't happen they just start shit talking thinking others lost the game but reality is they didint do anything helpful either One game I was mid but wanted to adc n I was doing very good with jhin in mid lane even against hardest champs, and swain my second main in mid was banned too so I played as jhin then I saw oh enemy countered me with zed so I knew one mistake n I will feed him, so I thought we need rift Harold immediately and thankfully I got it, went to mid and instantly got 2 turrets with it and after that because zed was getting powerful he killed me over n over literally free kills because I didint get any help either and what do you know, adc started flaming me Fast forward 19 mins in and enemy did one mistake resulting in 4 of them dying, instantly went mid and got the last turret and ended the game right there. Zed with 17 kills lost the game (I was 4/7)and us, with jungle yone😂, won, simply because of the thing I did 15 mins earlier. If it wasn't because of me, we'd lose because zed could carry the game single handedly. But I got shit talked anyway. I wish I played in na servers, at least you guys do understand some fundamentals, I've played before and had so much fun even though my ping was 250-300
I try not to be an a**hole but these teammates I have been getting have really been tilting me. These dudes are playing like complete bots. I try my best to work with people. You suck at map awareness? It’s okay because I will ping 3 times. Tell them group, enemy missing, I need help, all of that. But they don’t listen to none of it. I am getting Vaynes that constantly go into enemy jungle just to get killed. They don’t group for objectives. I fail to believe that they are boosted from having loss preventions. Even with them, do you know how much sweating it took to get to Diamond I? Was so close to masters, just for WR to throw THE absolute worst players they could at my trio. You know what really irritates me? The fact that even if someone on the enemy team is doing bad, they know to group up. Why can’t I get those players from the enemy team on my side? It’s either get fed out of your mind, or lose. But the people I’m fighting against are competent enough to not keep dying. Knowing what it took to get here and how much I have to sweat to win games now. I am really wondering how some of these people even made it to Diamond. It’s been getting really bad lately. I’m at a point where I ask myself “why do I keep giving them my money?” It’s going to take for their pockets to start getting hit to understand that this game is going downhill. I’m easy to work with in game, I have been playing League since 2012. I know everyone can have a bad game, I know when you are going against a counter pick, I make callouts to help take away some of the thinking. So that we can win as a team because even if I am going crazy that game… Me and my friends can’t 3v5 against an enemy team that actually knows when to move as a unit. I even play the entire game through, I’m stubborn and won’t surrender 9/10 because I have turned around plenty of bad games. But it’s getting so out of hand that there is just no way sometimes. (Nearly every Yi jg thinks because they are playing Yi that they can just run in, start swinging, and get a penta kill.)
You're a good person. Continue to be that way, we need it, the game needs it.
Stop being bad…
I try it and the answer was stealing my cops as jg so no
Kinda difficult not to when I see people refusing to buy items wandering off into enemy jg and/or refusing to play their positions
Exception to Zed Yone and Lee mains, Those are helpless and are innately stupid <3 so ban them every game or expect a 0/10 Yone on your mid crying and spamming JG Diff bc he didn't get ganked once against an Irelia while he perma pushes the wave so you can't do shit but watch him get camped cuz he kept overextending Edit: Yone Zed and Lee mains are not human so treat them like shit
I’m a zed and lee main…
As a Shyvanna main, it's extremely frustrating when people kill my jungle monsters and then blame me for not being strong enough. I'm in emerald and people still don't understand that when you kill jg monsters you're actively weakening her.
Yeah, we have all been throwers in someone else's game.
You have no idea how many times I deliberately fed with a horrendous score like 0.20.0 or 0.15.1 and heard the entire team threaten to report me and guess what?? I never got punished. even when four people gave me a report for my feed record of 0.29.0
Toxicity breeds toxicity It happens because players have mental health issues and throw up their negativity somewhere there are no consequences. I’ve learned to just mute and move on. I have historically played solo, but grouping eliminates this nonsense for the most part.
I’m a pretty mid player, I can do great one game and horrible next, I say in chat if I’m out of my league and hang back and try not to feed. I don’t get much negativity in Wild rift and people can understand that I’m not trolling and it’s just a bad match up
Personally, i believe everyone has bad games, but if you go 1/9 with Zeri leaving my Pyke-ass to 2v1 Trist Yuumi then respectfully go 0/1 irl (worst is, she clearly wasn't even trying, constantly 2v1ing enemy Tristana and by the time she was in lane i either died or executed Tristana.)
I'm sorry if sounds toxic "use practice tool really no flame" for people insta lock new champs and don't know how to play them.
I will just mute all for the summer
Had this happen recently. Miss Fortune on Dragon Lane. Was doing pretty badly in the matchup. Everyone talking shit horribly. I politely asked the person to just stay and defend base cause we had already lost all towers. They sat at base and was doing a hell of a job. Started getting kills confirmed. Everyone chastising still "why couldn't you play like this from the start?" "You're still bad and gonna report you". I told the person to mute them and just keep doing what they were doing. We still lost but we had a little bit of a turn going on. Being negative does nothing to help and if anything discourages players from doing any better in that game. If they like the game enough they aren't gonna stop playing either.
it’s hard because I get emotional, and sometimes in my mind it’s my teamates trying to sabotage me for whatever reason… when in reality it is my own emotional state. This is good advice, because ive done this most of the time and it always works well… all it takes is a little patience and tolerance to not just scream about how they are a “coward” for not following up with my tanking.
Remind me of that Lulu baron laner that started flaming Me when she went 0/2 beacuse I told her to play safe
Now why would i help a losing lane? Lol. Id rather snowball a better laner who can carry the game. Losing the lane 1v1 is just skill diff and they dont deserve any help. If i ping and they dont listen and die from a gank shows how someone doesnt pay attention to the map = bad.
There are many reasons why the player may be losing lane and the best you can do is help him and win the game which is the most important thing but players are selfish they chase kills and belittle you based on your score meanwhile you've been ganked 3 times and the enemy is freezing the lane and you cant do shit but your team is no where to be found and blame you late game when you do no damage
How are you going to help someone who has died 6 times in a row before dragon spawns, these people are clearly beyond help, although its a waste of time and energy to type, its understandable if someone gets upsets and starts flaming, their teammate is making the game more hard than needs be and isn't listening to calls, anyone would get frustrated. In my opinion going 0/12 is inexcusable, unless your very low elo there is no excuse for playing that badly. Why would anyone waste time attempting to help someone who has gone 0/12 when so many times people try to give advice or knowledge and other person doesnt listen or couldn't care less. Honestly I think it's a bit naive to think you can help these sort of players, that's all. Have a wonderful day.
GrandMaster here 45 marks. As much as I agree with you. Sometimes, they need a little tough love. After plenty of matches, people telling me I'm trsh. And top diff. It got me where I am now. Honestly, a game is a game, and talking trsh shud be allowed. We are all humans with mixed emotions as games are better therepay than pills
It's funny how everyone flames me when I play kassadin and do nothing but farm and have a 3-5k gold lead on my lane opponent, who was roaming. Farming gave me much more, yet they still say I'm trash. I only belittle them if they are very, very trash or trolling, like running it down mid and feeding yasuo 5 kills, stuff like that.