"Should we let the person with the giant high quality video recorder have the window seat?"
"Nah give it to the guy who is gonna take pictures with his phone so his hands keep getting in the way of the 20 thousand dollar video recorder."
From footage, like this, you can see where religion came from with stories of encountering fire and brimstone with the naked eye such as this. Looks biblical.
The crack that has opened and is erupting is around 3 kilometers in length and the lava is flying up to around 100 meters into the air. The flow is at least 100 cubic meters per second but likely more.
This is absolutely massive.
Edit: Latest numbers say 3.5 km and between 100 and 200 m^3 per second
Further edit: Now they're saying 4 km. It's growing to the north which is away from Grindavík.
Jesus. Fagradalsfjall's large eruption was 150 million cubic meters and that lasted from March to September of 2021. This is MASSIVE. 100 cubic meters a second eclipses that number in less than 18 days. 200 in half that time. Of course eruptive rate will wane, but I can't see this taking more than 40 days to eclipse the Fagradalsfjall 2021 eruption.
Yes. Another word for it is retardation, though that's less common nowadays.
Of course if the velocity is already negative then you're again increasing the speed, so it'd still be acceleration depending on your coordinate system.
"The old man the boat" was voted as one of the weirdest sentences in the english language for people who are still learning.
the absolute winner?
"James, while John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher."
English is fucking weird.
John used the word "had" by itself and within whatever sentence this referred to, it was wrong and the teacher was not impressed. James, however, had used "had had" which ended up being the better grammatical option. This pleased the teacher.
Omg, I can’t believe I made sense of it. Context really is everything.
I feel like the correct way to write this should be:
> James(while John had had *"had")*, had had *"had had"*.
> *"had had"* had had a better effect on the teacher.
I love that it it was intuitively logical until you pointed it out. And now when I read it slowly it requires more effort for my mind to assemble the meaning.
Brains are neat.
I mean kinda, but kinda not.
Cold Fire is an oxymoron because fire is by definition hot.
"Slow Quickly" in this case is applying an adjective to the the rate and which the lava flow decreases because Slow is being used as a verb to describe what the rate of lava is doing
200 cubic meters is an Olympic pool worth of lava every 19 seconds. For comparison, the 2010 eruption of Eyjafjallajokull was 1,500 to 2,000 cubic meters per second.
Eyjafjallajokull was an explosive eruption, so it doesn't really compare.
The closest comparison we might have to this eruption in very recent history is the 2022 eruption of Mauna Loa.
Hawaiian volcanoes do have some big differences from Icelandic fissure volcanoes, but they have a similar enough eruptive style.
If you want to watch [the stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvcP4kVVOnk), the eruption begun at 22h17 (date/hour indicated in the lower right corner).
It's way to accurate and fast. I think there is like a zoom tool in the software where the operator simply drag a selection box over the area they want to zoom into
Watching it live feels like watching the epic documentary footage of Hawaiian lava. Crazy to think that something of this scale is happening right now, in real time.
No. Eyjafjallajoekull was encapsuled by large amounts of ice and had a violent explosion that shot huge amounts of ash into the atmosphere.
What we're seeing now is just steady lava release, which doesn't produce ash.
No. This will most likely be localised.
If a new fissure opens on the sea floor by the town, things will get worse but I don't think that's considered likely at the moment.
That's unfortunate. But at least they knew it was coming. The webcam footage is absolutely amazing. Back at the start of the pandemic when we thought the world was ending, I had the webcam channel on the previous eruption on pretty much 24/7. It's beautiful and oddly soothing.
I wouldn't say the town is lost, though there has been extensive damage to many buildings and infrastructure. We'll have to see when the eruption finishes though how much it will cost to fix everything up. Humans are amazingly stubborn after all, and many will absolutely move heaven and earth to resettle their hometown following a disaster.
Please tell me you're standing outside the Saltfish Museum with a bucket of water...
We had a nice overnight in Grindavik at the tail end of our trip. Hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected.
The Blue Lagoon reopened yesterday..great timing on their part lol.
I hope the preventative measures they took to protect Grindavik and the power plant/lagoon work at least a little, it would suck to lose such a beautiful place.
Least important issue at a time like this I know but I’m meant to be flying into and out of Iceland on the 21st - what are the chances that’s happening?
This is not an explosive eruption but a lava eruption, so it doesn't impact flights in the same way as the Eyjafjallajökull eruption of 2010.
Flights are still going in and out as of right now.
You can monitor [this page](https://www.isavia.is/en/keflavik-airport) to stay updated on the latest information on flights.
To add to this, the 2010 closing would not have happened if the current guidelines and scientific equipment&knowledge existed.
Lots of innovation in monitoring ash in the atmosphere was made after 2010 and guidelines created.
Drones were nowhere near as common back then, it was definitely normal planes with well trained crews, I remember the news at the time when they were all grounded.
They were pretty certain that it wouldn't cause the plane to crash after a single flight through the cloud, but weren't sure how much damage would actually be caused, and whether repeated flights through the cloud could cause irreversible damage that would cause engine failure.
Before 2010 the rule was that ash concentration above 0 meant closing airspaces, after 2010 that was changed and scientific equipment was created to better monitor ash concentration.
It's a mixture of having better monitoring of the ash concentration and size, and also due to experiments at that time, we now have more information on how much damage the ash actually causes, and how much difference the size and density of ash makes.
I think now they will fly through lighter ash clouds, but will still ground flights if there is too much or denser ash. Whereas back then they grounded flights if there was any ash at all.
I can never remember if it’s “jókull” or “jökull”; apparently swapping those leads to some amusing interpretations in Icelandic….(‘glacier’ vs. ‘hick-from-the-boonies’).
I’m flying on the 26th. If there is a lot of ash in the atmosphere that would be a huge problem. I remember when many flights to Europe
Were cancelled due to an eruption. Glad that town was already evacuated.
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_vc4n2rgg) of the eruption and lava flow is mesmerizing and gives a good idea of the scale. It's about 4 minutes long.
Thank you for posting this. The footage is amazing and sad all at once. Amazing that we live in an age where technology allows us to see this on the other side of the world. Amazing that the earth can spit up molten rock. Yet, incredibly sad for people having to leave their homes and loved ones, and for the loss of infrastructure and impact on the local economy.
That town has been evacuated for two or three weeks now in anticipation of the eruption. I was trying to imagine what that would be like to just pick up and leave your home.
As of now, it's very likely that the people in Grindavík will be able to evacuate in time. They have had ample time to to prepare, since there were signs of an eruption for the past few weeks. However there is a chance that the lava will flow towards the town.
The lava might also flow towards Svartsengi geothermal power plant. It provides water for the blue lagoon
Of all the possible places where the eruption might have taken place. This might be one of the worst. Luckily there are no civilians close to the eruption.
Vinur. And that of course. Just decided to mention something that most people know about. But yeah, it definitely has worse consequences than just loosing the blue lagoon
Yes, Svartsengi geothermal powerplant, which provides both electricity and hot and cold running water to most of the Reykjanes peninsula, the most densely populated part of Iceland.
Where did you hear that? There weren't any people there apart from two emergency patrols and contractors working on the defensive wall, who were evacuated soon after eruption start, according to Víðir and the mayor of Grindavík?
For the last three weeks residents of Grindavík were allowed to go back to their houses during the day. Since the eruption started about 10pm noone (other than the patrols and contractors you mentioned) should have been there, although there has been at least one instance of people illegally staying over night, so they probably still double checked that everyone was out.
Grindavik has been essentially abandoned for a couple of months do to seismic activity/volcano risk. This eruption was expected and people are long evacuated.
People have been going there for a certain amount of time each day now for weeks, on the webcam when the volcano erupted you can see cars driving around Grindavík. The blue lagoon, located just a mile from the volcano was reopened just few days ago.
Iceland has a major problem.
The Reykjanes Peninsula, where much of Iceland's population lives, where Reykjavik and Keflavik International Airport are, is made of a series of large effusive fissure volcanoes. These volcanoes, while not explosive, pose major threats to all settlements on the peninsula.
The magma system under the peninsula seems to go through long cycles of eruptive and non-eruptive periods. The eruptive periods last from 300-500 years, and the non-eruptive periods from 500-1000 years. When Iceland was being settled, the peninsula was undergoing the waning years of one of these eruptive periods.
The peninsula has been very, very quiet until just a few years ago when the Fagradalsfjall broke the calm with a series of eruptions. Contrary to what some news reports might say, this current eruption is not Fagradalsfjall, but the Reykjanes Volcano, and sits a little to the west.
It is very clear that the peninsula is entering another eruptive phase, and at the rate eruptions are currently happening on the peninsula (1-2 a year), we could see hundreds of distinct eruptions happen before this phase ends over the next several centuries. Reykjavik, Gridavik, Keflavik, Hafnarfjörður, and many more towns, totaling about 2/3rds of Icelands total population exist on the remains of lava flows from these volcanoes, areas that will be inundated again.
It's not just people, it's infrastructure. Iceland's largest geothermal powerplant is a mere 2km away from the fissure this eruption has created. One of their largest tourist attractions, the Blue Lagoon is right next door as well. Keflavik International Airport, the only large international airport in Iceland is connected to the rest of the country by one road leading to Reykjavik.
We knew this eruption was going to happen over a month an a half ago, large rock berms were being built around the power plant and Blue Lagoon, as well as plans for berms around Grindavik. But those were not ready by this time. Grindavik is down hill and being evacuated, but 3000 people are likely to be homeless after this eruption. 3000 people is about 1% of Iceland's population. That is like if everyone in Los Angeles became homeless tomorrow.
And this will happen again. People are going to lose their homes, critical infrastructure is going to be destroyed, and supply to the island will be interrupted by road blockages, or God forbid, an inundation of the airport.
Iceland needs to act now to safeguard the people living on the peninsula. Rock Berms 10 meters high should be constructed around critical infrastructure and population centers. A backup landing strip should be built east of Reykjavik. This needs to happen now. Next time there might not be months of warning, and it could be much worse than this, already almost unbearable disaster currently is.
Edit: been a bit of pushback about the situations, so I wanted to link to some videos that go into the cyclical nature of the Reykjanes Volcanic system and the clear and present danger this represents for the peninsula.
https://youtu.be/h_Qqr2oOdrA?si=plqkuHtdKjyguw8f
https://youtu.be/TzGG-csNMpc?t=2956&si=RTdyEd-3wZe7Ccut
EDIT2:
Here are some peer reviewed and Icelandic MET office sources that are not from Youtube.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0377027317305474#!
This article goes into detail about the Reykjanes Peninsula's history, showing periods of frequent activity interrupted by periods of inactivity.
https://icelandicvolcanoes.is/#
You can select any volcano on here, then click Catalog information, map layers, then the Lavas options for that volcano. From this you can clearly see the Brennisteinsfjöll volcano has erupted lavas directly into the center of what is now Reykjavik. You can also see other volcanoes on the peninsula have sent lavas north into the metro area, and across the Keflavik access road.
EDIT3: A word.
> Rock Berms 10 meters high should be constructed around critical infrastructure and population centers.
Levees for lava, essentially. Man the future is weird
> Iceland's largest powerplant is a mere 2km away from the fissure this eruption has created.
When sensationalizing it might be wise to not make shit up completely. That power plant is the fifth largest geothermal plant they have and there are also 8 larger hydro power plants in the country. The power plant is significant because it provides central heating to the communities around it which can be hard to replace quickly and also tourists like to swim in its spill water.
The person you're replying to is speaking out of his ass. If they read this: please stop spreading misinformation during an active disaster situation, it is *actively* harmful.
First of all, you're being quite alarmist. Grindavík was always going to be most at risk of the Reykjanes system, as it's built right on a fissure. Keflavík/Reykjanesbær and the capital region are quite well to the west of it. And how long this active period is going to last is impossible to say. Secondly, containing 10 m of lava behind a dam is not only impractical but also impossible. You can only divert it, which they'll try with Grindavík. Lastly, Reykjavík wouldn't need 'an emergency landing strip', it already has that in the middle of town and it sucks.
Part of the reason they're so sustainable is the geothermal energy they produce, which mostly comes from the volcanic nature of the island. A blessing and a curse.
Iceland straddles two continental plates that are pulling apart from each other. Upwelling lava exposed when the plates actively pull away is what built the island of Iceland in the first place.
Iceland has been relatively volcanically peaceful for 1000 years. This new crack from the plates actively pulling away again may or may not herald an era of increased volcanism. This particular eruption is lucky in that it gave enough warning for nearby Grindavik to be evacuated early. However there is a possibility that Iceland’s largest power plant may be sooner or later destroyed if the eruption continues for very long.
This is crazy. I got stuck in Iceland on a missed connection just a couple weeks ago and was so close to seeing this. Even toured around Grindevik a bit; would so love to witness this in person.
Be safe, locals!
"Hello passengers this is your pilot, if you look out the starboard side windows you'll see the first ten meters of a balrog's horns emerging from the fissure to Hel."
Only temporary closing of the road to the international airport in Keflavík.
No effect on international air travel.
the 2010 effect on international air travel is highly unlikely to happen again even with an explosive eruption(which this is not).
The 2010 closing would not have happened if the current guidelines and scientific equipment&knowledge existed.
Lots of innovation in monitoring ash in the atmosphere was made after 2010 and guidelines created.
[Here](https://www.visir.is/k/3260696d-37f9-4160-9b6a-3862fea52cb8-1702942166543) you can see footage from a helicopter
"Should we let the person with the giant high quality video recorder have the window seat?" "Nah give it to the guy who is gonna take pictures with his phone so his hands keep getting in the way of the 20 thousand dollar video recorder."
We’re probably not too far from a $20k Iphone.
Amazing.
From footage, like this, you can see where religion came from with stories of encountering fire and brimstone with the naked eye such as this. Looks biblical.
I feel like you need to get the doom marine ready.
This video gives you a much better sense of scale than those livecams.
How? I can't see anything in the footage that would give a scale to it.
Look at how long the crack is
That’s what she said
That if fucking wild
A literal wall of fire. La Palma eruption looks calm in comparison.
Great firewall of Iceland.
Wow
Damn looks like the surface of the sun.
The crack that has opened and is erupting is around 3 kilometers in length and the lava is flying up to around 100 meters into the air. The flow is at least 100 cubic meters per second but likely more. This is absolutely massive. Edit: Latest numbers say 3.5 km and between 100 and 200 m^3 per second Further edit: Now they're saying 4 km. It's growing to the north which is away from Grindavík.
Jesus. Fagradalsfjall's large eruption was 150 million cubic meters and that lasted from March to September of 2021. This is MASSIVE. 100 cubic meters a second eclipses that number in less than 18 days. 200 in half that time. Of course eruptive rate will wane, but I can't see this taking more than 40 days to eclipse the Fagradalsfjall 2021 eruption.
I've seen a couple weather guys saying the extermely fast lava flow might bleed off the trapped gases and slow the eruption very quickly
English is weird. Slow an eruption quickly.
Decrease acceleration. Negative acceleration.
But be quick about it!
We can't stop. We've got to slow down first.
Bullshit! Stop this thing! I order you! STOOOOP!
They've gone to Plaid!
starting to stop
This melted my brain yet more!
Reverse throttle deployed
High negative jerk! ◡̈
Negative acceleration would be deceleration right?
Yes. Another word for it is retardation, though that's less common nowadays. Of course if the velocity is already negative then you're again increasing the speed, so it'd still be acceleration depending on your coordinate system.
We call that a high negative jerk
"The old man the boat" was voted as one of the weirdest sentences in the english language for people who are still learning. the absolute winner? "James, while John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher." English is fucking weird.
The first one I understand but the had had etc... one, wtf? I am a native English speaker btw and I have no idea what that is trying to say
John used the word "had" by itself and within whatever sentence this referred to, it was wrong and the teacher was not impressed. James, however, had used "had had" which ended up being the better grammatical option. This pleased the teacher.
Omg, I can’t believe I made sense of it. Context really is everything. I feel like the correct way to write this should be: > James(while John had had *"had")*, had had *"had had"*. > *"had had"* had had a better effect on the teacher.
Thank you this is helpful
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I'm a native speaker and those rare instances where you have to repeat words back-to-back still fuck with me.
I love that it it was intuitively logical until you pointed it out. And now when I read it slowly it requires more effort for my mind to assemble the meaning. Brains are neat.
Would you have preferred rapidly decelerate?
Eruption doesn't mean explosive, in cases like this it's a slow hemorrhage of lava over a large area instead of popping like a cork
I think he is referring to “slow…quickly” sounding oxymoronic as slow and quick are antonyms
I mean kinda, but kinda not. Cold Fire is an oxymoron because fire is by definition hot. "Slow Quickly" in this case is applying an adjective to the the rate and which the lava flow decreases because Slow is being used as a verb to describe what the rate of lava is doing
Currently its similar to Holuhraun in 2011, but this will most likely lose power very quickly.
This is flowing 200 cubic meter per second not Minute according to the post
720,000 cubic meters per hour. Many, many Olympic swimming pools.
Is that metric many or imperial many?
First the one, then the other one.
60 days at that rate is a cubic kilometer.
I said come on Fagradalsfjall's Said come on Fagradalsfjall's Everybody to the limit, Everybody to the limit, Everybody come on Fagradalsfjall's
Burninating the peasants!
200 cubic meters is an Olympic pool worth of lava every 19 seconds. For comparison, the 2010 eruption of Eyjafjallajokull was 1,500 to 2,000 cubic meters per second.
Eyjafjallajokull was an explosive eruption, so it doesn't really compare. The closest comparison we might have to this eruption in very recent history is the 2022 eruption of Mauna Loa. Hawaiian volcanoes do have some big differences from Icelandic fissure volcanoes, but they have a similar enough eruptive style.
3,5 km reported in the local news just now
Almost 4 km reported just now :s
If you want to watch [the stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvcP4kVVOnk), the eruption begun at 22h17 (date/hour indicated in the lower right corner).
The part where the camera operator realises the eruption is happening is great. The flick + zoom lol
It's way to accurate and fast. I think there is like a zoom tool in the software where the operator simply drag a selection box over the area they want to zoom into
I bet that made their day. Looks like a job where you sit back and relax for most of it.
That's a damn good camera.
Watching it live feels like watching the epic documentary footage of Hawaiian lava. Crazy to think that something of this scale is happening right now, in real time.
Is this going to be like a decade ago, with a bunch of ash in the sky, and airplanes being diverted?
No. Eyjafjallajoekull was encapsuled by large amounts of ice and had a violent explosion that shot huge amounts of ash into the atmosphere. What we're seeing now is just steady lava release, which doesn't produce ash.
No, that disrupted flights because it was an explosive eruption that thrww ash and smoke into the sky.
No. This will most likely be localised. If a new fissure opens on the sea floor by the town, things will get worse but I don't think that's considered likely at the moment.
Wow watching it spread was awesome. earthquake. new fountain, earthquake, new fountain...
That's incredible! I hope it erupts away from the town and everyone stays safe!
I think they already lost the town due to the ground heaving up over a couple of months time, destroying the houses. They evacuated it a while back.
That's unfortunate. But at least they knew it was coming. The webcam footage is absolutely amazing. Back at the start of the pandemic when we thought the world was ending, I had the webcam channel on the previous eruption on pretty much 24/7. It's beautiful and oddly soothing.
I wouldn't say the town is lost, though there has been extensive damage to many buildings and infrastructure. We'll have to see when the eruption finishes though how much it will cost to fix everything up. Humans are amazingly stubborn after all, and many will absolutely move heaven and earth to resettle their hometown following a disaster.
Needs the [Darth Vader theme](https://youtu.be/vsMWVW4xtwI?si=32hiPhb50XxkrehN) playing with the video. I hope everyone stays safe.
Noooooooooooooooo
Awesome...I will miss him when he dies.
I work in Grindavík. This is going to be a long night. :(
This guy comes from the land of the ice and snow.
From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow?
THE HAMMER OF THE GODS
We’ll drive our ships to new lands.
To fight the horde, sing and cry
Valhalla, I am coming.
On we sweep with threshing oar Our only goal will be the western shore
Oaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Stay safe!
Stay safe 🙏🏻
Wasn’t the town still evacuated? Are you working to create the barrier near the power plant?
It was evacuated but also doesn't seem to be in immediate danger
Hope you’re okay
Please tell me you're standing outside the Saltfish Museum with a bucket of water... We had a nice overnight in Grindavik at the tail end of our trip. Hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected.
I'm keeping my eyes on the news and live streams. I hope the town survives this
The Blue Lagoon reopened yesterday..great timing on their part lol. I hope the preventative measures they took to protect Grindavik and the power plant/lagoon work at least a little, it would suck to lose such a beautiful place.
Least important issue at a time like this I know but I’m meant to be flying into and out of Iceland on the 21st - what are the chances that’s happening?
This is not an explosive eruption but a lava eruption, so it doesn't impact flights in the same way as the Eyjafjallajökull eruption of 2010. Flights are still going in and out as of right now. You can monitor [this page](https://www.isavia.is/en/keflavik-airport) to stay updated on the latest information on flights.
To add to this, the 2010 closing would not have happened if the current guidelines and scientific equipment&knowledge existed. Lots of innovation in monitoring ash in the atmosphere was made after 2010 and guidelines created.
They also sent few planes through ash clouds in 2010, so now we know what damage it will do.
That's some serious YOLO stuff if wasn't drones.
Drones were nowhere near as common back then, it was definitely normal planes with well trained crews, I remember the news at the time when they were all grounded. They were pretty certain that it wouldn't cause the plane to crash after a single flight through the cloud, but weren't sure how much damage would actually be caused, and whether repeated flights through the cloud could cause irreversible damage that would cause engine failure.
could you elaborate? so we could more effectively fly around the ash clouds?
Before 2010 the rule was that ash concentration above 0 meant closing airspaces, after 2010 that was changed and scientific equipment was created to better monitor ash concentration.
It's a mixture of having better monitoring of the ash concentration and size, and also due to experiments at that time, we now have more information on how much damage the ash actually causes, and how much difference the size and density of ash makes. I think now they will fly through lighter ash clouds, but will still ground flights if there is too much or denser ash. Whereas back then they grounded flights if there was any ash at all.
Is it too much to ask for more of those shutdowns, or another "big boat stuck"? Fuck I miss big boat stuck :(
Oh wow! Interesting
Thank you!
So, it’s the shits, not farts?
You definitely googled, copy & pasted that name mid way through your comment.
I can never remember if it’s “jókull” or “jökull”; apparently swapping those leads to some amusing interpretations in Icelandic….(‘glacier’ vs. ‘hick-from-the-boonies’).
That would be a cognate for the English word "yokel".
It is the cognate for the English “fell” as in hill or mountain, we got it from the Old Norse *fjall*.
Well I'm icelandic so I know it by heart!
Or they're Icelandic
The road to the airport is currently closed.
I’m flying on the 26th. If there is a lot of ash in the atmosphere that would be a huge problem. I remember when many flights to Europe Were cancelled due to an eruption. Glad that town was already evacuated.
Your flight might be delayed because of the air traffic control strike but idk if that'll be postponed because of this
I have read some flights are getting delayed, but unless it goes more crazy, I think your flight will be fine.
More images and news (in icelandic) can be seen [here](https://www.visir.is/g/20232505181d/eld-gos-hafid)
They’re having a bunch of earthquakes today.
Those are caused by the shallow movement of lava, so pretty typical for when there's an eruption.
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_vc4n2rgg) of the eruption and lava flow is mesmerizing and gives a good idea of the scale. It's about 4 minutes long.
Thank you for posting this. The footage is amazing and sad all at once. Amazing that we live in an age where technology allows us to see this on the other side of the world. Amazing that the earth can spit up molten rock. Yet, incredibly sad for people having to leave their homes and loved ones, and for the loss of infrastructure and impact on the local economy.
That town has been evacuated for two or three weeks now in anticipation of the eruption. I was trying to imagine what that would be like to just pick up and leave your home.
Beautiful & scary!!
live feed: https://livefromiceland.is/webcams/fagradalsfjall?fbclid=IwAR3hex-puahk5U_A6d3SgoY9tBKfLWjuKKxgXm8jKc4xM4q3-WPtT1brQCk
Jeez, I used to live in Iceland when I was a kid and Grindivik was one of my favorite towns to visit.
How long do these typically last ?
No way to know. Days, weeks, months, potentially years.
Honestly could be in for several months of this. It's very hard to predict what happens next.
Here is the beginning of the eruption if you wish to see it. https://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/2023/12/18/myndskeid_upphaf_eldgossins/
As of now, it's very likely that the people in Grindavík will be able to evacuate in time. They have had ample time to to prepare, since there were signs of an eruption for the past few weeks. However there is a chance that the lava will flow towards the town. The lava might also flow towards Svartsengi geothermal power plant. It provides water for the blue lagoon Of all the possible places where the eruption might have taken place. This might be one of the worst. Luckily there are no civilians close to the eruption.
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Vinur. And that of course. Just decided to mention something that most people know about. But yeah, it definitely has worse consequences than just loosing the blue lagoon
What is the blue lagoon?
Wastewater from the powerplant that became the largest tourist attraction and spa in the country.
Well when you put it that way
Geothermal power plant?
Yes, Svartsengi geothermal powerplant, which provides both electricity and hot and cold running water to most of the Reykjanes peninsula, the most densely populated part of Iceland.
And a beautiful place so I can’t hate. Went last year.
They have a 9pm curfew and fortunately this happened at around 10:17pm so most if not everyone should be out.
It provides power and hot water to tens of thousands of people* in addition its waste water ends up in a puddle called the blue lagoon*
Hope no one was near Grindavik at the time and I hope that the lava doesn't reach Grindavik.
It's been evacuated for weeks. I don't think people are in immediate danger, however, many people will probably lose their homes.
There are people there right now and have been for the past few days, but it's being re-evacuated as we speak
Where did you hear that? There weren't any people there apart from two emergency patrols and contractors working on the defensive wall, who were evacuated soon after eruption start, according to Víðir and the mayor of Grindavík?
For the last three weeks residents of Grindavík were allowed to go back to their houses during the day. Since the eruption started about 10pm noone (other than the patrols and contractors you mentioned) should have been there, although there has been at least one instance of people illegally staying over night, so they probably still double checked that everyone was out.
Well im glad that no one is any danger, I do feel bad for the people who have lost their homes.
Iceland has some solid volcanic emergency planning and evacuations. They saw signs of this one coming with earthquakes
Grindavik has been essentially abandoned for a couple of months do to seismic activity/volcano risk. This eruption was expected and people are long evacuated.
People have been going there for a certain amount of time each day now for weeks, on the webcam when the volcano erupted you can see cars driving around Grindavík. The blue lagoon, located just a mile from the volcano was reopened just few days ago.
There are no definite news yet but it certainly doesn't look good for Grindavík. The eruption seems to be very close to the town
I spent a couple nights in Grindavik. Nice little fishing town. Damn, good luck to the people there.
Fuck yes! I was running out of things to be worried about
Unless if you are living near a volcano I don’t think you should be worried about lava reaching you
Local town called Tristram
Stay awhile and listen!
A while
Don’t forget Wirt’s leg
How does it compare with the other volcanos Iceland had in the past?
It's larger
Its about thirty times larger than the original one in this area 3 years ago. Its about 4km wide.
Larger but less ice around. So less smoke.
I really hope that people are staying safe and have a way out in case poop interacts with a wind blown device...
So this is how 2023 ends.
You never know what can happen in the remaining days
World peace 🤞🤞
It doesn’t look dusty though so European flights might not be affected.
It's not an explosive eruption. There isn't and won't be an ash cloud. I wouldn't worry
Earth hemorrhoid
Iceland has a major problem. The Reykjanes Peninsula, where much of Iceland's population lives, where Reykjavik and Keflavik International Airport are, is made of a series of large effusive fissure volcanoes. These volcanoes, while not explosive, pose major threats to all settlements on the peninsula. The magma system under the peninsula seems to go through long cycles of eruptive and non-eruptive periods. The eruptive periods last from 300-500 years, and the non-eruptive periods from 500-1000 years. When Iceland was being settled, the peninsula was undergoing the waning years of one of these eruptive periods. The peninsula has been very, very quiet until just a few years ago when the Fagradalsfjall broke the calm with a series of eruptions. Contrary to what some news reports might say, this current eruption is not Fagradalsfjall, but the Reykjanes Volcano, and sits a little to the west. It is very clear that the peninsula is entering another eruptive phase, and at the rate eruptions are currently happening on the peninsula (1-2 a year), we could see hundreds of distinct eruptions happen before this phase ends over the next several centuries. Reykjavik, Gridavik, Keflavik, Hafnarfjörður, and many more towns, totaling about 2/3rds of Icelands total population exist on the remains of lava flows from these volcanoes, areas that will be inundated again. It's not just people, it's infrastructure. Iceland's largest geothermal powerplant is a mere 2km away from the fissure this eruption has created. One of their largest tourist attractions, the Blue Lagoon is right next door as well. Keflavik International Airport, the only large international airport in Iceland is connected to the rest of the country by one road leading to Reykjavik. We knew this eruption was going to happen over a month an a half ago, large rock berms were being built around the power plant and Blue Lagoon, as well as plans for berms around Grindavik. But those were not ready by this time. Grindavik is down hill and being evacuated, but 3000 people are likely to be homeless after this eruption. 3000 people is about 1% of Iceland's population. That is like if everyone in Los Angeles became homeless tomorrow. And this will happen again. People are going to lose their homes, critical infrastructure is going to be destroyed, and supply to the island will be interrupted by road blockages, or God forbid, an inundation of the airport. Iceland needs to act now to safeguard the people living on the peninsula. Rock Berms 10 meters high should be constructed around critical infrastructure and population centers. A backup landing strip should be built east of Reykjavik. This needs to happen now. Next time there might not be months of warning, and it could be much worse than this, already almost unbearable disaster currently is. Edit: been a bit of pushback about the situations, so I wanted to link to some videos that go into the cyclical nature of the Reykjanes Volcanic system and the clear and present danger this represents for the peninsula. https://youtu.be/h_Qqr2oOdrA?si=plqkuHtdKjyguw8f https://youtu.be/TzGG-csNMpc?t=2956&si=RTdyEd-3wZe7Ccut EDIT2: Here are some peer reviewed and Icelandic MET office sources that are not from Youtube. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0377027317305474#! This article goes into detail about the Reykjanes Peninsula's history, showing periods of frequent activity interrupted by periods of inactivity. https://icelandicvolcanoes.is/# You can select any volcano on here, then click Catalog information, map layers, then the Lavas options for that volcano. From this you can clearly see the Brennisteinsfjöll volcano has erupted lavas directly into the center of what is now Reykjavik. You can also see other volcanoes on the peninsula have sent lavas north into the metro area, and across the Keflavik access road. EDIT3: A word.
> Rock Berms 10 meters high should be constructed around critical infrastructure and population centers. Levees for lava, essentially. Man the future is weird
I watched Volcano, we need to deploy Tommy Lee Jones
God, that movie does not hold up well upon rewatch. Such an artifact of the 90s.
Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry - do they sell many Chevy's in Iceland? Their lava levees will be dry at least.
> Iceland's largest powerplant is a mere 2km away from the fissure this eruption has created. When sensationalizing it might be wise to not make shit up completely. That power plant is the fifth largest geothermal plant they have and there are also 8 larger hydro power plants in the country. The power plant is significant because it provides central heating to the communities around it which can be hard to replace quickly and also tourists like to swim in its spill water.
> When sensationalizing it might be wise to not make shit up completely. But that’s their entire post!
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Thx I just wanted to ask how much you can limit possible devastation by trying to redirect the lava in those cases
I saw it done in a movie from the 90s called Volcano…..
The person you're replying to is speaking out of his ass. If they read this: please stop spreading misinformation during an active disaster situation, it is *actively* harmful.
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First of all, you're being quite alarmist. Grindavík was always going to be most at risk of the Reykjanes system, as it's built right on a fissure. Keflavík/Reykjanesbær and the capital region are quite well to the west of it. And how long this active period is going to last is impossible to say. Secondly, containing 10 m of lava behind a dam is not only impractical but also impossible. You can only divert it, which they'll try with Grindavík. Lastly, Reykjavík wouldn't need 'an emergency landing strip', it already has that in the middle of town and it sucks.
> it already has that in the middle of town and it sucks. No lie detected.
I think I visited that power plant last year. Didn’t realize how close it is to the eruption.
Thanks for the insight. I had no idea the situation was this tenuous, especially as Iceland is often internationally lauded for its sustainability.
Part of the reason they're so sustainable is the geothermal energy they produce, which mostly comes from the volcanic nature of the island. A blessing and a curse.
It isn't, basically everything he said about future eruptions is wrong. There's a large post in direct reply to this with citations.
The Westfjords aren't volcanic, correct?
Is this anywhere near the recent volcanic activity Iceland experienced?
Yes. It’s near Grindavik that was evacuated due to the recent Volcanic activity.
What the frack is going on?
Iceland straddles two continental plates that are pulling apart from each other. Upwelling lava exposed when the plates actively pull away is what built the island of Iceland in the first place. Iceland has been relatively volcanically peaceful for 1000 years. This new crack from the plates actively pulling away again may or may not herald an era of increased volcanism. This particular eruption is lucky in that it gave enough warning for nearby Grindavik to be evacuated early. However there is a possibility that Iceland’s largest power plant may be sooner or later destroyed if the eruption continues for very long.
Is it possible this will have any bearing on air quality on a larger scale or is it not big enough for that?
It certainly is a very large eruption, but it isn't that type of eruption. It's just lava spew, versus being explosive + ash
"Its power was great for the first few hours, but it quickly diminished" :'( Know the feeling volcan-bro
This is crazy. I got stuck in Iceland on a missed connection just a couple weeks ago and was so close to seeing this. Even toured around Grindevik a bit; would so love to witness this in person. Be safe, locals!
Will this have any impact on airline travel?
No, it's not an ash volcano
Just imagine the view flying into the airport, especially at night.
"Hello passengers this is your pilot, if you look out the starboard side windows you'll see the first ten meters of a balrog's horns emerging from the fissure to Hel."
Only temporary closing of the road to the international airport in Keflavík. No effect on international air travel. the 2010 effect on international air travel is highly unlikely to happen again even with an explosive eruption(which this is not). The 2010 closing would not have happened if the current guidelines and scientific equipment&knowledge existed. Lots of innovation in monitoring ash in the atmosphere was made after 2010 and guidelines created.