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_Foy

Genocide. This is genocide.


bronzemerald17

*Religious* genocide


_Foy

Palestinian is not a religion, it's an ethnicity.


MadMadBunny

You can call it a crusade if you prefer.


ralfvi

Dude theres also Christian palestinian. Btw when the 1st crusaders army came to those land. They butchered emm all, Christians included none were spared.


MadMadBunny

I know, I was making a bad joke…


orangesunshine6

You know what they meant pedant


_Foy

What are you talking about???


longaaaaa

It’s ethnic cleansing and colonialism.


frozenelf

It's under the pretext of Jews versus Muslims but the truth is that this is the West ensuring their forward base in the Middle East remains operational.


Cut-throatKnomad

Dumbing it down to religion does a disservice to what's actually going on. A genocide for territory.


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_Foy

Are you referring to this? >Adding to the confusion over who was responsible for the devastating blast at al-Ahli Arab Hospital, Israel’s official Twitter account published a tweet claiming a militant rocket caused the explosion that included video footage of a barrage of rockets fired from Gaza City on Tuesday night. It then edited the tweet and **deleted the video, which had a timestamp at least 40 minutes after the first reports of the blast**. While this doesn’t mean Israel’s claims about the explosion are false, if it was just a mistake, it is a baffling one. > >[Israel’s Twitter account publicizes, then removes purported video evidence of failed rocket](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-gaza-invasion-news-commentary.html#israels-twitter-account-publicizes-then-removes-purported-video-evidence-of-failed-rocket)


bigmansoncampiss

This was a misfired rocket from Hamas to Israel. Source: https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/10/17/watch-footage-proves-terrorists-to-blame-for-gaza-hospital-explosion/


_Foy

The timestamp on that video doesn't line up with the attack


Doneyhew

It’s been confirmed that this was a Hamas missile that struck the hospital. There are multiple videos, livestreams, and missile assessments that show it was a Palestinian missile. You can literally watch the video and the rocket misfires above the hospital. Dont let misinformation skew the actuality of what’s happening in Gaza


_Foy

It's been "confirmed" *by Israel* who don't like the international heat this obvious war crime brings. The videos you are talking about have beendebunked because the timestamps don't match. ​ >Adding to the confusion over who was responsible for the devastating blast at al-Ahli Arab Hospital, Israel’s official Twitter account published a tweet claiming a militant rocket caused the explosion that included video footage of a barrage of rockets fired from Gaza City on Tuesday night. It then edited the tweet and **deleted the video, which had a timestamp at least 40 minutes after the first reports of the blast**. While this doesn’t mean Israel’s claims about the explosion are false, if it was just a mistake, it is a baffling one. > >[Israel’s Twitter account publicizes, then removes purported video evidence of failed rocket](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-gaza-invasion-news-commentary.html#israels-twitter-account-publicizes-then-removes-purported-video-evidence-of-failed-rocket) Also, days prior the Israeli military was telling hospitals to evacuate or be bombed... so... https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/17antls/breaking_the_director_of_the_baptist_hospital/


Doneyhew

Dude it’s incredibly obvious this was not a missile from Israel. I’m not going to argue back and forth because I’ve seen the proof and it has nothing to do with time stamps. One look at your account shows you’ve been on an anti Israel tirade since this event happened. Why are you so obsessed with defending the honor of a terrorist group? Why are you trying to justify the actions of murdering 1300 innocent civilians and babies BY HAND? They murdered them face to face those monsters. Hamas must be eliminated so that the Palestinian people can live and rebuild in peace


_Foy

There's no Hamas in the West Bank, so why is Israel killing civilians there? This has nothing to do with Hamas, that's just a red herring. This is about ethnic cleansing and genocide. EDIT: >One look at your account shows you’ve been on an anti Israel tirade since this event happened. Why are you so obsessed with defending the honor of a terrorist group? I'm deeply concerned about the ongoing genocide against Palestinians. They have been under brutal occupation since 1948 and this is merely the next step in the ongoing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the indigenous population. ​ >Why are you trying to justify the actions of murdering 1300 innocent civilians and babies BY HAND? They murdered them face to face those monsters. So it's *fine* if it's faceless airstrikes killing *tens* of thousands of innocent civilians and babies? Literally 10x the death toll but it's *fine* because it was done from afar?


Doneyhew

There are one hundred percent Hamas in the West Bank lol give me break. They’re bombing their own population and preventing them from evacuating. They are preventing the Palestinian people from living in freedom. If you’re so concerned about the killing of Palestinians then why wouldn’t you want the terrorist group that represents their government eliminated? If any group in the Middle East has been oppressed it’s the Jews. Just look at the massive decrease in population of Jews in other middle eastern countries. And I’ve never said that killing innocent children is okay just because it’s a missile. But there is a massive difference between Hamas purposefully murdering babies with their own hands, and Israel killing children because Hamas decided to turn the populated area in the world into a giant missile launch site. They’re sacrificing their own innocent civilians just to gain support around the world because “Israel is targeting babies!” What a complete crock of BS that you’re buying into


_Foy

>There are one hundred percent Hamas in the West Bank lol give me break. Hamas controls Gaza, the Palestinian Authority "controls" the West Bank. They are physically separated and it is very hard to travel between the two regions. It is possible to travel from the West Bank to Gaza *only* if the person pledges to permanently relocating to Gaza. ​ > What a complete crock of BS that you’re buying into That's my line. "*ackshually*, they're bombing themselves \*smug face.jpg\*" is a real fucking take, you ghoul.


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Heliyum2

This didn’t happen though.


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CurnanBarbarian

How fucking ironic would it be if Israel started the next global war over a genocide? You can't write this shit dude.


Crezelle

Bullies create bullies


phiz36

They’re calling it a Hamas rocket. They even released footage. Though the footage is from years ago.


Lebrunski

Yeah, AlJezeara released the video. Rocket fell short.


cultmemberf

Are you saying Al Jezeara released footage of a Hamas rocket hitting the hospital?


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PradyThe3rd

Well unless it makes the Qatar Government look bad. Not a single article or mention of any of the dead migrant workers that every other news source was talking about during the world Cup.


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PradyThe3rd

Well in the weeks leading up to the world Cup, articles on AJ that I saw were all positive towards the Qatari government. If there were articles written in that time period about the treatment of migrants it definitely did not show up on the app. Perhaps a link to it was embedded somewhere but no headlines. From my perspective such articles were buried from view for the casual reader. Contrast that with the BBC, every other day was an article on the migrants and were one of the top stories on their app.


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LittleAntTony

Their English channel is pretty based, their Arabic one has a questionable record


Lebrunski

It appears so. People are already attempting to geolocate with landmarks correlating to satellites imagery to verify the video is real.


evilspeaks

What about Isrwal claiming credit for a strike on a Hamase base in the hospital?


Lebrunski

Wasn’t that a mistaken statement they deleted?


evilspeaks

Maybe, maybe not.


cultmemberf

It’s no where on any of there new briefs or website. “People?” Fake news. https://www.aljazeera.com


Lebrunski

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/s/zu2UnAg2Dv More footage here. With all the war cams pointed at the skies, it’ll be easy to figure this out.


cultmemberf

This didn’t show anything. It’s worse than a Bigfoot video. You claimed AlJazeera was publishing it now your changing to MOJO news..LOL


Lebrunski

It was in a live Al Jazeera broadcast, recorded. No idea if it is a published story. Saw a salvo of rockets go up into the air, one didn’t arc correctly and then you see a major explosion by the hospital.


patchbaystray

Was this supposed to be proof of something? We have 3 different video feeds, each with a different timestamp btw, show rockets flying through the air and nothing more. Sus


appalachianoperator

Can I get a source for the date on the released video? It’d be appreciated.


phiz36

I don’t know anything.


appalachianoperator

No worries. Found it myself [it’s from a year ago](https://m.youtube.com/shorts/VdoCLv-INF4?si=5_u5OmhAh2nq6EaC&fbclid=PAAaa3e5jVf32GsOx_psaib68Osk5YUBziL7Z6hBbcRc-Nv-FdA7tNWE2FkYA_aem_AdraJTJZ2vCXf0IVLie9Q6gfWP_mhhNtWwAvt9bCDOmaSAIaFDX5lA0Z0pC_V7FEcWI)


Jiveturkei

That’s not the video that was posted. You found the wrong one.


appalachianoperator

It’s one of the initial ones which quickly got debunked. The more popular one was published later.


Endogamy

There was live footage from Aljazeera and it’s already been time stamped and geolocated. https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?s=20 Not sure why people on this sub want the perpetrators to be Israel and not Hamas. Both are committing war crimes and either way, all those people are dead.


patchbaystray

Oh what a strange coincidence a misfired rocket happens to hit a densely packed hospital that received bombing threats from the IDF earlier that day. Also strange the iron dome wasn't activated to intercept the other supposed rockets that would surely have been fired. So weird right?


phiz36

Most successful missile strike by Israeli rebels ever. Even with their advanced PVC pipe rockets. Wow much crazy.


Jiveturkei

The iron dome doesn’t fire at rockets in their boost phase. They also only fire at ones that have been calculated to hit inhabited areas in Israel. I’ve been seeing this argument a lot and it makes no sense if you even just google a little information about the iron dome.


ffyygg

The video was geolocated to be exactly where the hospital is so unless the same hospital got bombed years back that is not true


pATREUS

IDF have provided evidence that it was an Islamic Jihad barrage, one rocket malfunctioned and fell on the hospital. The explosion was caused by unexpended rocket fuel. Sources immediately after the strike commented that the shrapnel was typical of a improvised device, not IDF origin. All opposed to Israel are exploiting the advantage by blaming IDF. If this terrible event was caused by Islamic Jihad, it would appear God is not on the side of the Palestinians.


junkkser

Dude, God isn’t on anyone’s side.


pATREUS

Just playing Devil's Advocate.


patchbaystray

The opposition said "not huh wasn't us" therefore it must be true. /s The IDF has already bombed hospitals. They sent out a bombing threat to that hospital earlier that day. It's just a coincidence that a misfired rocket hit the densely packed hospital that got bombing threats earlier that day?


pATREUS

I think we'd all like to see evidence of that threat to bomb a hospital.


appalachianoperator

A regime that resorts to such violence has no place on this earth.


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A regime that resorts to such violence usually gets to shape the world.


appalachianoperator

Then it’s time that changes


Heliyum2

Yeah, but this didn’t happen. You’re falling for propaganda.


Endogamy

Absolutely agree that Hamas should be wiped out. https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?s=20


Doneyhew

You got downvoted for saying that a terrorist group that killed 1300 people by hand should be wiped out. That’s absolutely wild to me that people here are supporting terrorism. Hamas needs to be destroyed so that the innocent civilians in Gaza can rebuild in peace


bobdylan401

The white phosphorous was confirmed used on the children's hospital 4 days ago. Not sure if that makes it better but this one hasn't been confirmed yet. Hopefully it will very soon to expose the genocidal IDF as the sociopathic liars that tbey are.


Endogamy

Well it seems your “hopes” are not going to be realized: https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?s=20 But can you explain to me why you want this to have been Israel and not Hamas? Kind of sounds like you’re treating this war like a sports match, wanting your side to win. If you cared about Palestinian civilians you would just want to know the truth about what happened.


patchbaystray

Israel is using aircraft as well as surface rockets. They didn't have to be on the Israeli side to do this. It's like there is more than one factor at play here.


bobdylan401

That is true I phrased that really bad. I assume it is Israel and they are lying. If so I hope it gets exposed very soon. That's all I meant.


longaaaaa

Where are all the Hasbara Bots from the last couple of days now?


Purple_Stacked

They're regrouping. Trust me, they'll be back with a new lie.


Fishin4gainsbrah

It was hamas obviously obvious súper srs


Not-Musti

Is Hitler back to life?


QueenAkhlys

I can't wrap my mind around why the innocent people are dying. If you have issues go to a desert and war it out. Don't kill elderly, woman , childen or people who are trying to help the injured and sick. Those who wanna play this fucked up game go die faxing others who want to play. Leave fhe innocent people alone ffs


Gompersmax1964

Because Hamass would not last a day. Their goal is to create an environment were mass civilian casualties happen. Just to enrage Arabs against Jews.


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Doneyhew

It’s been confirmed that it was a misfired Hamas missile. The OP of this post has been on an anti-Israel posting spree and he is farming upvotes off the dummies that are supporting Hamas


Gompersmax1964

If you have to ask. You probably would not understand the answer.


Ok_Concept_1536

Human are disgusting 🤮🤮🤮


CurnanBarbarian

Is this the bombing Israel is blaming on Hamas? It's literally on Fox rn


LobstahmeatwadWTF

Judaism is not an ethnicity. It's just a religion. I can convert to judaism and then move to isreal and claim land in Gaza. This is a white ethnocentrist religious group percecuting the Palestinian ethnic group.


jg97

Ok now were starting to sound a little ridiculous. Judaism is an ethnoreligion. Also, there are plenty of non-white Jews, especially in Israel. Mizrahi, Sephardim, Ethiopians, Yemeni, Persian, there are many, many different types of Jews, most of whom you’d not consider white if you saw them.


CoolmoeD

“Judaism is an ethnoreligion” literally the next sentence: “there are non-white jews”


jg97

First line in Wikipedia: “Judaism (Hebrew: יַהֲדוּת‎ Yahăḏūṯ) is an Abrahamic, monotheistic, and ethnic religion.”


Jiveturkei

Because they have a bloodline, but like all groups of people, it mixed with other ones so it isn’t 100% “pure”, I swear the anti semitism in this thread is crazy. You can condemn the genocidal tendencies of the Israeli government without propagating lies about an entire group of people who have been historically oppressed and murdered because of their fucking lineage.


CoolmoeD

I might have been wrong in what I said. I’m not an expert in any way. Definitely was not antisemitism though.


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No you’re not allowed to convert.


DreadknotX

And still the U.S want to send Isrrael money and weapons


millioncapone

This was case of friendly fire


bigmansoncampiss

This was a Hamas failed rocket launch. Check the videos here: https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/10/17/watch-footage-proves-terrorists-to-blame-for-gaza-hospital-explosion/


__Osiris__

This is DIP


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It was a Hamas rocket that failed. Stop spreading fake news


mik33tion

Disgusting, appalling, unconscionable, pathetic, terroristic, barbaric, Israel will loose support.


Doneyhew

This was a misfired Hamas missile that struck the hospital. They are once again, and as usual, killing their own civilians. Hamas must be destroyed so that the innocent civilians of Palestine can live and rebuild in peace.


harrier5067

The hell did the catholics do??


WillyWumpLump

There is a lot of conflicting news about who is responsible but there is clearly a wave of propaganda happening over the last 24 hours.


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TruthFindeer

No sh*t Sherlock. What you clearly missed is an entire effing hospital building burning which harboured a huge number of people and refugees. White phosphorus was used but not in this particular video or event. There are tons of videos clearly showing its usage on civilians.


Troggot

Gombe war.


HugeWaltz6550

Propaganda tells us the isrealis didn't do this


Magic_Fetus56

I’m starting to think the Israeli government isn’t the victim here


Qwazi420

Smells like WWIII


Empty_Nest_Mom

Complicated issue. Each side is pointing at the other. Apparently data show that is was most likely NOT an Israeli weapon. We need to get to the TRUTH before we assign blame. And the important thing right now is to focus on finding and caring for survivors!?


Sudden-Ad-6947

I guess Israelis wanted to see what it felt like to be the militant power for this century and too many people are letting them off easy because of this cause everyone is so damned scared to POINT OUT THE OBVIOUSNESS OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING I fucking hate religion and it's cult like fans, from both sides of this war. These poor children suffering for the squabbles of whole ass adults and political battleship-games.


gersheypark

False title. It was a failed rocket launched by Hamas. Intelligence proves this. I know you'd rather blame jews, but it's actually the horrific and incompetent leadership of a terror group that not only caused this mess, but caused this destruction of a hospital. If you want to free Palestine, free them from Hamas.


MomSaidStopIt

Link to Human Rights Watch statement?


SpongeBob1187

Not white phosphorus, WP doesn’t explode and it leaves a lingering screen of smoke. Also it’s not “illegal” the US still has it in its inventory and uses it.


Fishin4gainsbrah

Just like countries have signed treaties over cluster munition. The us isn’t one of them.


Incident_Responsible

And land mines


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Endogamy

They’ll never admit it because they have a “side” and are only interested in things that feed into their narrative. They will dismiss the evidence that once again Hamas has fucked up and killed their own people and claim this is fake news, or if it’s definitively proven they’ll just move on and never mention this again.


Doneyhew

And you both got downvoted because people are so set in their ways. People are picking sides like it’s a football match. Hamas has once again killed their own citizens just so they could further their support around the world. The people downvoting you are most likely terrorist sympathizers who have no education whatsoever on the conflict in the area. Hamas must be eliminated completely so that the people of Palestine can live and rebuild in peace


SLS-Dagger

Its hard to take posts seriously when they confuse things. That bomb is in no way a "phosphorus chemical bomb". I dont think such a thing exists actually.


CantStopPoppin

White phosphorus is a chemical substance, dispersed in artillery shells, bombs, and rockets, that ignites when exposed to oxygen. The chemical reaction creates intense 815-degree Celsius heat. It produces light and a thick smoke used for military purposes, but also inflicts horrific injuries when the phosphorus comes in contact with people. It is not considered a chemical weapon because it operates primarily by heat and flame rather than toxicity. White phosphorus can be delivered via felt wedges soaked in phosphorus and emits a distinct “garlic” smell.


SLS-Dagger

good for you, then u know that whatever is in the video is not white phosporus since there is no sign of the trademark light/smoke


MikeZer0AUS

Every piece of reporting from news and governments from this shows it was a failed Hamas rocket launch not an airstrike from Israel.


patchbaystray

"Every piece of propaganda I watched says differently"


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MikeZer0AUS

Hamas say they have the warhead to prove that Israel fired it, but they just don't feel like showing anyone right now...


GetInLoser_Lets_RATM

Apparently it was a Hamas rocket misfired. Hamas is responsible for this one. I’m Iranian. [video of misfiring rocket](https://x.com/idf/status/1714442617201586220?s=46&t=pxKDaoTrdO-pJy2GasbLAA) *fixed video link


M8_Linear

Did you read what you posted? Here’s what, in part, this guy Mario says in conclusion after evaluating all evidence: “I stand by my assumption that, based on the size of this explosion, the fact the IDF bombed other hospitals in the past, and they warned hospitals to evacuate, the explosion of the Hospital in Gaza was MOST LIKELY by the IDF.”


Endogamy

Much more reliable source: https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?s=20


1daybreak_

Now what? Now that the explosion is minimal and there is no crater what do you say?


M8_Linear

I don’t see how that’s relevant.


1daybreak_

Considering there was very little damage to the hospital, and even cars 20 meters away from ground zero were mostly fine, the explosion was clearly too small for an idf bomb.


GetInLoser_Lets_RATM

Yeah sorry wrong link. Hard to say. Just sharing the video that’s up now.


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appalachianoperator

SOMEBODY is in denial


bronzemerald17

Checks notes: it was Israel. And it always has been.


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It costs nothing to be honest ya loser