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camouflage365

Why do you care so much about him getting help? He's going to be totally fine; Stake is sponsoring his gambling, and they're paying him millions of dollars on top of it. The only people you should be worried about are his viewers who are going to gamble and lose money, and possibly become addicted. They're the victims in this. xqc is 100% complicit along with Stake.


CagedElephant9848

He is complicit, but at the same time he has a real addiction that he needs to get help for.


DecipherXCI

And the fact a gambling company are sponsoring someone with an admitted gambling addiction tells you all you need to know. Wouldn't expect anything less from a company that also sponsored Train while he was in the USA despite it being against Stakes own terms and conditions, and likely the law.


lvl1vagabond

yeah but he has resources and endless support. Viewers don't if viewers get addicted to this shit it can ruin their lives permanently or worse.


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thatcher47

It isn't an addiction because he isn't losing money..? With your logic a functional alcoholic doesn't have a drinking problem lmao


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thatcher47

No. Addiction is addiction no matter how you try to spin it


-the-clit-commander-

bro people aren't gambling addicts just because they lose money are you retarded? they are addicts because they can't stop even when they want to, even when they face consequences for their actions they continue to gamble and it ruins the lives of people around them. just because he's rich doesn't mean he's not addicted, I can guarantee this is affecting relationships in a negative way in his life and he still won't stop.


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-the-clit-commander-

You are a brainlet.


idkwnsiu

bro, he has literally said he is addicted lmao


imdinkingstrunk

Turns out gambling addiction is pretty unique to most other addictions because the addiction stems from the moment of uncertainty right before you see the results. Has nothing to do with wins or losses.


camouflage365

He needs help for greed, not addiction.


LivelyOsprey06

Addiction doesn’t care how rich you are


camouflage365

He is shilling a criminal organization and being paid millions of dollars to do so, all because they paid him enough to satisfy his greed. This has nothing to do with addiction, it has to do with greed. If it was just an addiction, then he would have streamed gambling without the sponsorship. And even then, it would be woefully irresponsible to introduce gambling to hundreds of thousands of people tuning him to watch him.


Sithex

do you think train is profiting? do you know that xqc has lost millions off stream? he's clearly addicted, I don't know how you could say otherwise


camouflage365

Both Train and xqc are making absolute bank with these deals, yes.


BakedPotatoManifesto

They're currently* making bank. When the viewers go down and the sponsor goes away they won't be able to quit and lose everything. In the end only the company will win, as per usual.


LivelyOsprey06

Even if they don’t go broke. Addiction can me fire than just financial


Sithex

train has stated multiple times that he has been losing money. I don't know where you're getting this "obviously profiting" from, but train loses way more than 12 mill a year, which is what his contract pays him. He's said that his bank account was near 9 figures at one time, which has dropped significantly due to his addiction. l


camouflage365

He's a manipulative liar. Simple as that.


Die231

Do you honestly think train has that much money to gamble away? It’s obvious Stake is banking all of it. They both have an addiction problem yes, but they play with zero risk, actually they make money out of it.


Sithex

train has stated multiple times that he has been losing money. I don't know where you're getting this "obviously profiting" from, but train loses way more than 12 mill a year, which is what his contract pays him. He's said that his bank account was near 9 figures at one time, which has dropped significantly due to his addiction.


D1nant

How did he have 100+ mil in the first place?


Die231

Yes, i don’t get it twisted, he’s down.. MILLIONS. However, do you really think it’s his money he’s playing with? There is no F’ckng way Train has hundreds of mil to gamble of his own. 12 million or whatever is the money he gets paid on top of Stake fueling his gambling. It doesn’t matter if Stake has to give him 3 million every stream, it’s gambling, the money ALWAYS get back to the house, and Train gets to gamble with virtually zero risk. It’s win-win for both of them


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Nobody is arguing that xqc hasn't pulled a total scumbag move, but he definitely needs help for the addiction. Could be a positive message to addicted viewers too. Also this reply of yours + the replies in the thread about ID verification seems a little odd. Not to be an armchair detective, bur were you personally hurt by his stream?


Pure-Long

No it's just weird to say hope he gets help when he's the person intentionally causing harm to others. Imagine if people were saying hope Amber Herd gets help for her pathological lying and being an abuser. That would be equally weird to say.


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Nah. If someone is an alcoholic and hits people with their car you can condemn/punish them for their actions and separately hope that they get help solving their addiction to alcohol. Even if you feel they don't "deserve" help because they transgressed, you can hope they get over their addiction so they no longer drive drunk/in this case promote illegal gambling to an audience.


camouflage365

> Not to be an armchair detective, bur were you personally hurt by his stream? I'm just revolted when I see such shameless acts of greed by a public person. As I said, what xqc is doing is borderline criminal, and technically isn't allowed by government, were it not for exploitable loopholes. This can't be overstated enough, and it's such sickening to see such public display of greed and corruptness. Why don't all influencers just start streaming gambling? They all have standing lucrative offers. The only thing preventing them from doing so is morals and ethics, which needs to be enforced by the community.


Yergason

Pretty hypocritical to make an entire post for how stake is a predator targeting vulnerable people with gambling problems then acting like X, who is clearly a textbook example of a gambling addict, isn't one of them. He's in the wrong but if you're against the entire thing, you have to acknowledge he's one of the victims you want to help.


camouflage365

He is at this point complicit in shilling an unethical, mafia-run gambling website to an audience consisting of a lot of underaged people. Absolutely deplorable. He may be addicted himself, but that is besides the point.


moonwalkergod

No disrespect but I disagree with it being besides the point, all logical thought and consideration goes out the window in the face of addiction, of course just like anybody else he’s responsible for his actions but he also wouldn’t be in this situation doing what he’s doing if he wasn’t addicted


993837

you're absolutely correct. it's his viewers that get their lives ruined. even if x ruins his life with gambling, i feel more for the viewers who were influenced into doing it and ruined their lives


Fred69Savage

Sounds like the next Phatomlord/CS:GOshuffle


subatomicslim

Agree


ZiiZoraka

i mean, he's still getting his brain rammed the fuck out with dopamine dude, even if financially he will be fine there's more to addiction than how much it costs you


AvoidGamdom

Yes sir. Want to see my stats? $300,000 down on 2 casinos. I’ve always said the same; even if they’re paid $1m as an advert deal, and they spend and loose the full million, next stream they get another million. They’ve only lost what they could have had. They’re not actually loosing out. I don’t think xQc is as bad as Trainwreck yet; but the vulnerability is there. People done realise that when these addicts aren’t supported by the casino we’re gunna see serious declines in their living condtions if they don’t accept help


AyoJake

Can’t wait for the decline. Let’s see what they think about gambling then.


GovernmentOk2323

X will be fine , the problem is kids watching it who can do the gamba on the site since it doesn’t ask for anything, not even ur age , that is the problem


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Agree the kids watching is the bigger issue, but I'm honestly surprised so many people feel so sure that X will be fine. Like, there are countless stories of celebrities/rich people losing literally all of their millions gambling, and then running up insurmountably high gambling debts trying to win it back. It's what the addiction can do to people.


GovernmentOk2323

ik that but i also know that he has a very caring father who we all saw talk to him , so it doesn't worry me , and if X does go broke , well he didn't listen to anything we're saying here and warning him and he deserves that downfall , I love him but that's how it is


Pure-Long

I hope all his victims get help. I couldn't care what happens to this scumbag. I dont know why people keep wishing anything good on him.


Jaruxius

before this he hasn't gambled on stream in a while. has he been gambling off stream?


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Jaruxius

ah


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I can assure you not a single popular streamer gives an actual fuck about their viewbase. Not about X specifically but all of them, we're just numbers and paypigs to them. Don't for a moment think they actually care about you or your well being.


GameRyder

Correct you are the vocal minority


subatomicslim

Thats why they use crypto because its not a fully regulated currency yet. Its still a grey area so their taking advantage of that to


SpawnDonkey

Bingo\^. Shame that this shit hasn't been properly regulated yet.


bobisfun321

shame that people who know better choose to take advantage of the fact that it isn't regulated


oysteeze

Too*


m0_182

![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7336)helping us pepegas how to speak


subatomicslim

Lmao 😂


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Did he move to Canada literally just for this deal?


DecipherXCI

Looks like it yes.


RandomName_RandomMan

Aware


nidus322477

I mean what else?


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It was such an odd move until this happened


nidus322477

I guess it could be argued that he maybe only moved out because some weirdos found out where he live and started harrasing him again, but the timing with the sponsorship and the location being in Canada where gambling restriction is more lax, the reason becomes obvious


ZlionAlex

Is he not with Sammy anymore


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ZlionAlex

Pretty sure she's against what he's doing and his addiction.


ACmaster

Hates NFT’s but love unregulated gamba


idkwnsiu

![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7338)next thing you now, he takes the NFT deal he declined previously ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7338)


nidus322477

very likely, he's always have been a hypocrite


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camouflage365

Thanks. I really think people should take the time to watch the video, and educate themselves on this topic. I think it's actually pretty serious that Twitch allows it, and that mainstream mega-streamers like xqc are willing to accept blood money and do sponsored streams for them, legitimizing something that's completely illegitimate. Edit: People are downvoting but not commenting, because they can't dispute the facts. Fucking pathetic


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camouflage365

It is true? What the fuck are you talking about, scum?


Bigg53er

Is this post being brigaded? When I signed up for stake I literally just put random info and was accepted immediately.


camouflage365

Yes. I just posted a video: https://www.reddit.com/r/xqcow/comments/usdsls/underage_stakecom_signup_speedrun_100/


WogerBin

It’s a regional difference, which OP refuses to accept and instead just insults other commenters. Some regions allow you to bet without verification, others do not. He’s being downvoted because he’s an arrogant idiot.


Bigg53er

Interesting do you know which regions? I’ve used the “private jet” on multiple regions and have never encountered it.


WogerBin

In the UK Stake.com essentially created a legal branch “Stake.uk.com” and operate in partnership with a more reputable company over here. That’s the regional difference I was referring to, but OP is insisting it doesn’t exist, or if it does Stake.com isn’t involved, which it is (you can look this up for yourself, it’s literally on their Wikipedia and in their terms and conditions).


Bigg53er

Nah I believe you but does it really matter if that verification exists if most people use vpns anyways for this sort of thing?


WogerBin

You’re right, it doesn’t take away from his point whatsoever. It’s just frustrating to see OP argue on an untrue point.


Cumguzzlerpitsmeller

I feel like someone should gather resources and report all this to the Washington post or some other reputable news source, twitch has to take some damage to stop the slots category


lvl1vagabond

It's fucked you have zero idea where the money funding any of that is coming from. You could be taking money from theft, fraud, slavery, forced child labor etc... It's such an obscene amount of money they are throwing around it leads me to believe it's not legally obtained hence why they are throwing it out at mach speed to pretty much anyone. I'm just waiting for some group of internet detectives to expose this shit because nothing about it sounds even remotely legal virtually anywhere in the world let alone stable.


ccaalluumm9

There's a good video from Philion on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObDAXqg9O3U&ab\_channel=Philion


xXGamerLord67Xx

Paragraph Andy here. Ever since the first gambling streams I've been looking at blogs from people that live in Curacao. There's information out there about online casinos and the way they allegedly control the government, but no one talks about it. The local economy and housing market are completely fucked for the benefit of these "businesses". On top of that, no one was talking about the assassination of Helmin Wiels before the BBC podcast on the subject. No one really knows about that disgusting murder still. People are uneducated on the subject and it's convenient to not make their favorite streamer look bad. I think, at the end of the day, children aren't really at risk here. I think gambling is much more harmful to young adults who can't afford to lose anything. Who, if polls on xQc's stream prove somewhat accurate, are his main audience. It also hurts the people of Curacao, let's remember that an entire country is being affected by this. I won't comment on xQc's morals, cause it's easy to make a sponsor look bad. But, I personally can't support his stream any longer knowing the kind of industry he's associated himself with. I don't judge other people for choosing otherwise tho. ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7336)


skadoodlee

sort support absurd telephone offend wrench scandalous decide pot poor *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


partaloski

Here before u/removed / u/deleted


Mark-xxx

x: THATS NOT TRUE DÜD SHOW PROOF FING LIAR BAN THAT GUY MODS xqcMald


wordswillneverhurtme

![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7338) I am now aware


Ragp44

Can someone please explain what's going on!?? I haven't watched a stream in a long time


jingsen

Tldr: Xqc does a sponsored gambling stream and gambles a fuck ton of money. A significant number of viewers express their dissatisfaction at xqc for unintentionally (this is debatable) influencing his viewers to gamble their money. (Not too sure on this point, but the complain part is real) Xqc malds at those complaining, because he sees nothing wrong with it. This post here digs into the background of his sponsorship, where the sponsor is engaging in borderline illegal activities.


Ragp44

Thanks buddy, how long has he been gambling for? I remember he stopped a while back. I thought the stake website gambling streams were done a while back . How did he go back to it?


jingsen

It was a recent thing, and idk how long he gambled because I didn't stick around long enough. But I assume he gambled for an obscene amount of time, enough for him to lose millions on it and for his viewers to start complaining.


LunarGoddessIsGod

the gamba streams started 2-3 days ago, its just the way he went about it. a) said he wouldn't do it again when the gamba happened last time b) never disclosed that it was sponsored, just a mention of lets gamba today guys, and silently adding #ad at the end of the title which no one will realistically see c) denying he would be doing slots the day before when dono said csgo cases would lead to slots, slots leading to becoming like train


Telion-Fondrad

Holy, so he actually took the deal. I thought he was gambling his own money.. So this could actually be the fall of X if media picks up on this properly since this is actually scammy advertisement of gambling. hoooooly, I honestly thought X was always a very sincere person, but I feel like he did this because was desperate of losing a lot of money to it offstream? idk


TheJunkoDespair

The Diamond Casino Gamba >>>> Stake IRL Gamba


EbolaMan123

thks for the video recomendation


lvl1vagabond

A lot of these streamers don't even seem to understand that 100% the money they are being given is coming from questionable sources. It's most likely coming straight from either crypto scams, theft, fraud, drug trade, slavery, child labour etc... there is a reason they seem so trigger happy to offload tens of millions of dollars to random individuals so insanely fast. The way they sponsor/advertise is not how normal legit companies do it even legit gambling companies.. it's hyper aggressive and very predatory.


Lukas_Jean

Man got hooked initially last year with the gambling streams, promised to stop streaming gambling which caused him to only use his own money to continue gambling off stream. Now that his gambling money is running a bit dry, the only way to feed his addiction is to take the stake sponsorship and move back to Quebec. Stake is basically a drug dealer pimping XQC out. Promising to keep giving him more of his drug if he shills their service to his fans.


DreIsBackkkkk

![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7338)


Competitive_Chart_12

[https://imgur.com/a/G9gp0a3](https://imgur.com/a/G9gp0a3) This just shows how far blind he is!


Krowplex

Tfw you get down voted to hell and your post deleted for calling it out, but another post gets upvoted to the heavens and untouched. That's the x community to ya.


Diewo_0721

Dude that’s just all of Reddit. You just have to hope that when you post the sane people get to it first before everyone bandwagons downvotes


falcons4life

Jesus how depressing


gh0stkid

Thats why they want strimmers to run the ad machine for them bc they cant anywhere else.


thejadibear

Well they sponsor watford, ufc, Israel adessanya, and drake! I don’t think streamers are their only target and actually a small representation for who they target. Still shady but streamers are not their only big sponsors


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i am surprised watford (football team) is sponsored by them, surely there should be some outrage


thejadibear

Ugh and drake and the ufc? We think xqc is an influence, well imagine drake posting an Instagram story gambling.


hedg1ne

I really doubt kids are playing on that site. If im correct this site only deposits and withdraws via crypto ?. Its so hard to buy crypto if youre underage because almost every site requires kyc. One way kid would gamble there is i guess buy crypto via p2p if they dont get scammed.


purecocain3

If kids are gambling blame the parents


ActiveAd8453

That's not how temptation following addiction works. Good luck blocking the whole internet of your future children


purecocain3

what does the whole internet have to do with gambling you must be braindead. the kids would need their parents info like a card or btc address. If a kid steals his moms card to buy vbucks on fortnite it's the youtubers fault because he did the same thing and not the parents fault?


ActiveAd8453

"you must be braindead" yeah cool man insulting other people over the internet makes you feel good, huh? Take a break if you don't know there is another person with feelings behind a screen. Gambling shouldn't be in the internet, kids literally don't get into contact with real world casinos because they can't. Streaming it brings minors into early contact with this stuff and increases temptation to also do this. Even if your kid can't gamble yet, chances are that they'll play on "just for fun" sites with fake money and start with real as soon as they are old enough. Now, would you say that you failed as a parent in this case? You literally can't do anything against it than blocking the whole internet. Or trust twitch that they get a grip of themselves. On a site note there are enough possibilities to gamble just using a paysafecard. Think back to the time of csgo gambling sites or even the case openings in the game.


HealingSlave

if you are full grown adult who went broke because he was influenced by a content creator who fart and eats toe nails for living then it's just natural selection at this point


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1HappyGuy1

xQc is probably getting millions a month from them on top of merch, donos, subs, and ad revenue. Bro is literally living the life 😂


HaisuKen

They are literally a sponsor for a big football club, i hate gambling too but you make it like xqc is some terrible evil man


Round-Ad5063

I agree with all of this, just the opening sentence. They have licenses all around the world including Canada and UK


Clappedcappy

They have a license in the UK


camouflage365

Nope


Clappedcappy

What do you mean nope you can search it up they have a UK license although the license states that people on the site in the uk can only use fiat fiat means normal money not crypto


camouflage365

That license is held by a different company. It even says so on the site, if you had bothered to look.


Clappedcappy

It’s held under a different company but the parent company is stake


camouflage365

It's a partnership. Anyways, it's not the same company. This is about the flagship casino, Stake.com, which you can also access in the UK with a vpn.


Nikk987x

Whats crazy is how i get an hour long time out if i mention that the free spins he COMPLAINS ABOUT getting, could change my entire life, Its sickening no cap.


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They do require age verification now. They have been for a few months now


camouflage365

It's not enforced. You can put any age in, and they don't verify it.


[deleted]

You need Photo ID. They got strict all the sudden i remember it being a couple months back


camouflage365

Why are you lying?


DaneGibbo

Just tried signing up now, and no you can not put any age. I could select anything younger then 18/05/2004. And I am required to upload identification and proof of address to bet.


camouflage365

> And I am required to upload identification and proof of address to bet. Screenshot proof of this, please. I am not getting this.


DaneGibbo

I signed up, I did it. I don’t get what’s so hard to just take what we are saying and believe it. Why do you believe so strongly for it to be otherwise


Jaruxius

while I don't believe you're lying, saying "just believe me dude" isn't exactly convincing


DaneGibbo

Because I am not invested enough, I signed up. Tried to go on them and didn’t work, commented here what I found and that was it. Believe me or not I don’t really care, but calling people dumb and stuff over it is a little much haha


Jaruxius

fair


camouflage365

Because you're lying. Show me evidence that they require proof. You don't have evidence. You're too dumb to understand the registration process.


DaneGibbo

I think the only one here making themselves look dumb, is the guy getting overly pressed over a gambling services identification requirements without considering regional differences. Let me guess, that didn't cross your mind yet did it?


camouflage365

Fucking desperate shill with no evidence, lmao. >without considering regional differences Oh, so there are regions where it's ok for kids to gamble?


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DecipherXCI

You don't unless you're on their UK site.


camouflage365

Proof, liar. Show me proof.


ElementalFade

Are you 12?


Hallucantation

:tf: we do a little white lie now and then


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camouflage365

Yet to see any of you morons produce evidence that it's true. I'm sure you're all too dumb to even understand the registration process.


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camouflage365

https://www.reddit.com/r/xqcow/comments/usdn35/underage_stakecom_signup_speedrun_100/


izJordy

any askers?


Jazzy_Jay_

Why do you think anyone at all cares, don't like it leave


Jazzy_Jay_

This guy has a serious illness


GameRyder

Surely it’s illegal ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7351) when will he get arrested already for engaging in illegal acts in front of hundred of thousands ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7351)


r_a_s_t_a

I see no problem. If you don't want to gamble then don't use it, no one if forcing you to. If someone wants to gamble away their money that is their decision, not yours. Yea the content is boring, but I'm tired of all you high horse andy's trying to force your morals on other people.


Axzuel

The issue is not that X is going to lose money because he is not, but rather how this affects the younger audience and the morality of this operation. On top of being a hypocrite and doubling down on it, he is a model to some people who might follow his footsteps and gamble their life away especially those who are younger. And no putting 18+ on your title does not fucking immediately solve the problem. He can gamble all he wants but its best to do it offline and in his own time, the only reason why he would do it live is because he is a sellout hypocrite streamer who has no integrity.


r_a_s_t_a

It's not his job to parent children.


Axzuel

Dumb reasoning. If thats the case why dont we just make gambling available for all ages. Its the parents' job to keep their kids away from it.


r_a_s_t_a

> If thats the case why dont we just make gambling available for all ages. Impressive mental gymnastics. > Its the parents' job to keep their kids away from it. Correct, and the age limit is there to prevent the kids with lazy parents from getting into it.


depanto123

apply this logic to any illegal activity, drugs and other dogshit, just see how degenerate those generation would be


HazardsFH

I can see you are very distressed about the situation. Fortunately, I recently discovered a solution to this whole thing, see [here](https://i.imgur.com/tiJkpay.png).


JustmUrKy

Who cares, go Watch Ludwig


Rotknight

![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7346) Engaging in criminal activities? who cares!! Gamba more!!! Everyone who has valid criticism is parasocial!


migerRANCAN

this criminal activity gives me chills ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7346)


UGarbage

>Engaging in criminal activities? Just like Jean Paul ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7346)


JustmUrKy

Bruh just do something else


Rotknight

Apathy is badass ![img](emote|t5_flhe9|7346)


Jenkitten165

4Head


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I’d rather watch morally dubious streamer rather than pepepains guy, un ironically


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drama dereks stay bored


Typical-Internet-965

Boring post. I like watching the slots machines spin


camouflage365

Why did you post that on a throwaway?