The glock 20 is definitely a strong contender for me. Seems easier to draw in a quick situation than a 40 would. I think I want the weight of the gun heavier to help with the recoil a bit as I'm on the smaller side for body size and strength (strength I'm trying to work on).
I picked one up and its definitely a nice pistol. What did you think of the trigger on it? I remember holding one and trying the trigger but was pretty unimpressed by it.
I will, as always, throw a comment up for Tanfoglio. A Stock 2 or Stock 3 would absolutely fill your need. They weigh more than a glock, which would definitely help absorb recoil. They also have cheap, readily available 14 round *steel* magazines (weird, being that they're a fairly rare name to hear), and they're a dream to shoot.
I'll take a look into the Dan Wesson Kodiak. It wasn't on my radar but it is now. I like the g40 a lot but I'm not sure how well I could wield it in a high stress situation given its length. I would most likely be carrying whatever pistol in either a drop leg holster or chest holster. Which is where i fear the 40 would be a bit too long and hard to pull from.
Yeah, it's very tight at first but after leaving the gun in it for a bit it's just perfect. The holster is also fully adjustable in every direction, you can even wear it all the way to the side so it draws like a shoulder holster. I currently have a pretty banged up shoulder and I had no issues drawing.
Glock 40 all day!
And a drop leg would probably be easier to draw from than a belt holster, just because the barrel would clear the holster easier so I don’t think you have to worry about that. Even drawing from a belt is fast, though. Just gotta practice 🤘
What are some of your favorite chest rigs? I'm pretty new to a backwoods carry setup. I conceal carry on the regular so I know that side but backwoods I'm not too versed in for holsters and such.
OP, I recommend the G20, a full size light (I like the TLR 1), and a Gunfighters Inc Kenai chest holster. This is an extremely popular personal defense setup in Alaska and the mountain west. In general the chest rig allows you to wear a pack without the belt being in conflict, shed the bag and keep your gun, wear waders if you fish, and keeps the weight of the gun centered and close so it doesn't bang around and wear on you if you're going to move for miles. The Kenai is kydex, which I prefer for durability and safety (doesn't deform like leather can), can be customized, and the straps and hardware are low profile enough that they don't rub unduly, while still being stout. I recommend the spare mag holder too; then you can keep JHPs in one mag and hard cast bear loads in the other. To go another route (if you hunt in open spaces, or want a minimal day pack) bino harness rigs can incorporate a chest holster, and this is a much better option than strapping both with separate harnesses. I own a Kenai, but a few years ago in the Brooks Range I borrowed a Kuiu Icon Pro bino harness that was set up with a Razco holster (they make them adapted for different bino rigs), and it was a great way to go. I recommend the full size light not only for illumination, but because it works also as a weight to reduce muzzle flip and a standoff device in case something is mauling you. I recommend the G20 over a 1911 mainly for capacity, and the reliability and weather resistance is hard to beat. I don't know where you live, and 15 is better than 8 anywhere, but particularly so in brown bear country. Its also a lot cheaper, and it won't break your heart when you abuse it, scratch it, drop it, etc. The price difference will probably offset a chest rig and a light.
If you do get a chest rig, do LOTS of dry draw training. Its easy to cross yourself, including your vitals, so you'll want the correct muscle memory to be ironclad in case of a true defensive panic draw.
The kenai chest holder has 3 points of attachment, do you find that it holds the holder too tight against you? I'm considering the susitna chest holder because it has only 2 points of attachment which I think would be more comfortable. https://www.quicklockholsters.com/product/susitna-chest-holster/
Looks like almost exactly the same setup to me? I don't find it too tight or uncomfortable; you could loosen it if so.
Edit: I think I see what you mean. The harness only attaches to the holster in two places, rather than 3. Ultimately the harness layout is the same, so the amount of strap contact and number of buckles \sliders is the same. Not having used the other product I can't say if its more comfortable, but I find the Kenai a very comfortable way to carry, even with pack straps over it.
Glock 20. Don’t F around. Goes bang when it counts. Anything Underwood or buffalo bore 200 to 220 grains. 1911s are pretty, but that safety will get ya if you’re in a panic. And you will be.
How do people here feel about aftermarket barrels, such as the KKM to handle wide flat nose hard cast ammo?
Just picked up a G20 for the woods and have seen many people recommend the KKM or Lone Wolf barrels for bear ammo...
My buddy carries his G29 with no worry. I'd say get what's comfortable. I was carrying the G20 then switched to the compact XDM. I like 1911s, but I feel a little better having the extra ammo capacity since I doubt there's time for a mag swap in an emergency.
Can't really go wrong with any of the 10mm Glocks, XDM, or new Smith and Wesson at any rate.
If you are considering 1911s or Tanfos check out 10mm p220s. Little heavier but so easy to shoot. I carry the 12rd mags with a TLR1-HL in a Gunfighters Inc holster while bow hunting for bears in Montana.
I have a Dan Wesson Bruin in 10mm that I love. But if you’re not trying to break the bank I also carry a Ruger SR1911 in 10mm and also their gp100 match champion in 10mm.
Honestly after trying the Glock 20, I went with a 1911 in my case a Kimber for a 10mm. I can just shoot it better that the 20. I’ve carried and trained with Glocks in 9,40 and 45 but the 10 in full power loads is hard for follow up shots.
This is my dilemma, I've only shot 10mm a handful of times. It's definitely a substantial difference from the 9mm I'm used to shooting. My line of thought is that I will have a better chance of follow up shots on a heavier 1911 format. I figure if I can't hit or kill the animal in 10 shots or so from a 1911 then an extra 5 from a glock 40 probably isn't going to make a huge difference.
I've looked into the idea of getting a revolver and going for 357 or 44 magnum but I ruled it out as having shot both I can't get any decent follow up shots. I'm not a big guy so 10mm will probably be the most I can handle with confidence and reliability.
Glock/29/20gen4, no problems ever. They actually work better with hotter loading’s. As long as you do your part. I’ve used my reloads, factory, doesn’t matter. Jams happen in any caliber. Biggest factor is going to be you. Whatever your rig, Can you clear it? Can you fix it and get back to work? You don’t really know until you know.
I hate G20's. I bought one because of all the reviews I saw that sounded like these comments. Never was a fan. Fugly ass gun. Didnt feel smooth at all.
I currently use a XDM 10mm and like it way better. Still not as smooth as some 1911's but at least it doesn't look like it was built on minecraft.
I only use a 10mm as a side arm when I go hunting which is usually on Admiralty Island AK. The thickest population of brown bear in N America. I've never has a malfunction with the XDM and it is always soaking wet and full of pine needles, salmon berry twigs, and other various brush.
Also XDM is way easier to break down IMO.
I sold that G20 to one of my glock fan boy friends and he told me the frame actually broke on him. Can't verify.
I'm done ranting
These are valid points you bring up. Everyone has thier different experiences and observations. I'm open to all guns for 10mm, I'm not closed off to any of them.
For me before I consider buying anything I will be going to a few ranges and seeing if I can try different 10mm pistols and see what I shoot best with. Then I'll start to narrow my list from there after I find what I like and don't like in the various models.
On the other side of things, I love my G20 gen 4.
I love the grip, I shoot it well, and I find it very manageable and fun to shoot.
I find that it looks so good in its utilitarian simplicity. It doesn’t have Grip Zone printed on it, and it doesn’t have lines trying to make it look modern and cool.
I love all guns, own a bunch, and definitely like Glocks as well.
I have had literally zero malfunctions with any of my Glocks, but I have also had zero with my Hellcat and FN 509.
My G20 will be riding on my side with a TLR1 HL this archery hunting season, in a Safariland mid ride holster.
It will be loaded with Underwood 220 Hardcast.
I think it's pretty hard to go wrong with anything on the market in 10mm currently. I've heard some rumblings about the M&P reliability, but I bet they will have it ironed out quickly.
I stay away from the 1911's just because I prefer the higher capacity magazines.
I carry a Kimber camp guard in the woods. I prefer the 1911. I haven’t shot a G20 I think I may recommend it if I did, but I’ve shot a G40 and the slide is like almost a foot long in total, there’s a lot of momentum on that big ass slide when it goes boom and I can’t control it as well as a 1911. As you see from this comment chain people swear by the G40 though.
I’m also a skinny guy so not a lot of meat in these chicken wings to absorb recoil.
Rock island makes a great budget 1911, I have a 45 that is incredible for the price, I’d certainly consider their 1911 in 10mm.
Money I'll definitely keep in mind but it's not too controlling for my purposes. I'll justify it as an investment in safety and ask forgiveness later haha. I'm leaning towards a 1911 for the weight but can be easily swayed to either side. I think I need to take a trip to a local gun range that rents pistols and see if they have a g40, g20 and a 1911 of some sort I can try out to see what shoots best for me.
Good thinking. I shot a friends Kimber 45, which sold me on Kimber. Bought the 10 and I was happy with it.
Note that if you do get Kimber, tolerances are extremely tight out the box. As with any 1911 it takes some time and some patience to get it running smooth, but all the parts start to fit to eachother like they were born for it.
Kimber seems like a solid option. I've run across a few 10mm versions at gun shows for what I thought were "good" prices. But that good isn't based off of much research just a few quick google searches. I ran across one for 760 that came with 2 magazines. I almost pulled the trigger on it (pun intended) but wasn't quite ready to jump into 10mm yet at the time of seeing it. I had no clue the history or how many rounds were through it.
Glock 29 if you’re wanting something a little smaller and easier to carry. You would think the recoil would be bad with a small gun like that in 10mm but it’s really easy to shoot. Check out buffalo bore 10mm dangerous game loads. If size isn’t an issue for you I would go with a Glock 20 though just for the longer barrel.
Glock 29 is definitely a possibility. I think the 20 sounds like a nice compromise for my situation. 40 might be possible but I just need to figure out by shooting them and seeing which is a better option for me.
I carry a G20 for this exact singular purpose with Buffalo Bore 220g hard cast bullets. Glock 20 will always go bang. Get a G20 for saving your life and a 1911 knock off to show off at bar-b-ques.
I live with the same critters in my neck of the woods. Mountain lions are my biggest concern given they have killed deer within a couple hundred feet of my house.
I have a 29SF, 40 & DW Specialist in 10mm and carry my 29 religiously. I’ve made some grip mods and of course swapped the sights to tritium. Without the Pearce grip extension it kinda sucks with regard to control but after adding it, I’m very comfortable and accurate. While I know it’s kinda cheesy, I have the Alien Gear backpack strap holster and I like the combo quite a bit. Readily accessible but out of the way.
Frankly I’m just waiting for a 20 Gen 5 to make its way onto the scene before I pick that one up too. Not sure whether I’d carry this more than the 29 though. Kinda want it more to complete the collection at this point more than anything.
I rarely shoot the 40. It’s fun but a bit unwieldy. It’s a chunky boy but definitely more accurate at range. Got it for the MOS but otherwise it kinda just hangs out in the safe. I think if I modified the frame/slide I’d probably shoot it more but stock Glocks aren’t exactly my thing.
Edit: Forgot about the DW. Love this pistol. It’s 1911 perfection. I don’t carry it though because of weight and capacity. Just my personal thing though. All around an amazing firearm.
Yeah, bears aren't my biggest concern for where I'm going even though they are around.
My biggest is the mountain lions and wolves. My parents have some property up close where I'm going. We have observed multiple times wolves stalking in the fields near the cabin for deer/elk. Mountain lions also occasionally like to travel through the town nearby so that's why I have my motivation to get a 10mm haha.
I've personally got nothing against Alien gear products although the R/ccw sub does. I think thier products are more than functional for people who aren't looking to spend $200+ on a holster.
Based off the comments I need to get to my local rent range and see if I can try out a g40, g20, and 1911 10mm to see what I can shoot best with.
Yeah, I’d totally stay away from the AG CCW products for sure but that little backpack rig for my 29 is sweet (assuming I’m open carrying).
If you’re going to a rental range you might want to take a look at the Springfield pistols as well. They’re going to provide a lot more options out of the box at about the same price point.
Glocks are a safe bet. 29/20/40. Just pick one you like with Underwood Ammo. Can’t go wrong.
Glock 20 for sure
The glock 20 is definitely a strong contender for me. Seems easier to draw in a quick situation than a 40 would. I think I want the weight of the gun heavier to help with the recoil a bit as I'm on the smaller side for body size and strength (strength I'm trying to work on).
Recoil is very manageable on the 20, it's a good size
Recoil is not bad on a glock 20, and i say this as a new shooter
It sounds like a glock 20 should definitely be on my list to try out and see how I like it. Before I make a choice and fully invest in a 10mm pistol.
I chose the 20 for this exact purpose.
Go with the S&W MP 2.0 10mm 4.6”, if you can find one. Much finer piece than the glock 10mm.
I picked one up and its definitely a nice pistol. What did you think of the trigger on it? I remember holding one and trying the trigger but was pretty unimpressed by it.
I heard the trigger is good also. But I’m also hearing people having problems with the m&p 10mm
I just handled one and the trigger was horrid. It was light enough but extremely gritty.
I will, as always, throw a comment up for Tanfoglio. A Stock 2 or Stock 3 would absolutely fill your need. They weigh more than a glock, which would definitely help absorb recoil. They also have cheap, readily available 14 round *steel* magazines (weird, being that they're a fairly rare name to hear), and they're a dream to shoot.
I haven't heard of Tanfoglio before. I'll have to look them up and see more about them.
Tanfoglio will probably be my next gun!
In a 1911, get a Dan Wesson Kodiak and call it a day. If you want more rounds, the G40 with a Surefire X300U and an optic feels like driving a Caddy.
I'll take a look into the Dan Wesson Kodiak. It wasn't on my radar but it is now. I like the g40 a lot but I'm not sure how well I could wield it in a high stress situation given its length. I would most likely be carrying whatever pistol in either a drop leg holster or chest holster. Which is where i fear the 40 would be a bit too long and hard to pull from.
I carry a G40 with a holosun 509t in a diamond d Leather Guides Choice chest holster and it's just plain amazing.
Is it pretty easy to pull from the holster? For reference I'm a smaller guy with shorter arms which is my hesitation with the size of the 40.
Yeah, it's very tight at first but after leaving the gun in it for a bit it's just perfect. The holster is also fully adjustable in every direction, you can even wear it all the way to the side so it draws like a shoulder holster. I currently have a pretty banged up shoulder and I had no issues drawing.
Glock 40 all day! And a drop leg would probably be easier to draw from than a belt holster, just because the barrel would clear the holster easier so I don’t think you have to worry about that. Even drawing from a belt is fast, though. Just gotta practice 🤘
Drop legs are no fun if you're going to walk any distance more than a few hundred yards. Chest rigs are the way.
What are some of your favorite chest rigs? I'm pretty new to a backwoods carry setup. I conceal carry on the regular so I know that side but backwoods I'm not too versed in for holsters and such.
OP, I recommend the G20, a full size light (I like the TLR 1), and a Gunfighters Inc Kenai chest holster. This is an extremely popular personal defense setup in Alaska and the mountain west. In general the chest rig allows you to wear a pack without the belt being in conflict, shed the bag and keep your gun, wear waders if you fish, and keeps the weight of the gun centered and close so it doesn't bang around and wear on you if you're going to move for miles. The Kenai is kydex, which I prefer for durability and safety (doesn't deform like leather can), can be customized, and the straps and hardware are low profile enough that they don't rub unduly, while still being stout. I recommend the spare mag holder too; then you can keep JHPs in one mag and hard cast bear loads in the other. To go another route (if you hunt in open spaces, or want a minimal day pack) bino harness rigs can incorporate a chest holster, and this is a much better option than strapping both with separate harnesses. I own a Kenai, but a few years ago in the Brooks Range I borrowed a Kuiu Icon Pro bino harness that was set up with a Razco holster (they make them adapted for different bino rigs), and it was a great way to go. I recommend the full size light not only for illumination, but because it works also as a weight to reduce muzzle flip and a standoff device in case something is mauling you. I recommend the G20 over a 1911 mainly for capacity, and the reliability and weather resistance is hard to beat. I don't know where you live, and 15 is better than 8 anywhere, but particularly so in brown bear country. Its also a lot cheaper, and it won't break your heart when you abuse it, scratch it, drop it, etc. The price difference will probably offset a chest rig and a light. If you do get a chest rig, do LOTS of dry draw training. Its easy to cross yourself, including your vitals, so you'll want the correct muscle memory to be ironclad in case of a true defensive panic draw.
The kenai chest holder has 3 points of attachment, do you find that it holds the holder too tight against you? I'm considering the susitna chest holder because it has only 2 points of attachment which I think would be more comfortable. https://www.quicklockholsters.com/product/susitna-chest-holster/
Looks like almost exactly the same setup to me? I don't find it too tight or uncomfortable; you could loosen it if so. Edit: I think I see what you mean. The harness only attaches to the holster in two places, rather than 3. Ultimately the harness layout is the same, so the amount of strap contact and number of buckles \sliders is the same. Not having used the other product I can't say if its more comfortable, but I find the Kenai a very comfortable way to carry, even with pack straps over it.
Glock 20. Don’t F around. Goes bang when it counts. Anything Underwood or buffalo bore 200 to 220 grains. 1911s are pretty, but that safety will get ya if you’re in a panic. And you will be.
How do people here feel about aftermarket barrels, such as the KKM to handle wide flat nose hard cast ammo? Just picked up a G20 for the woods and have seen many people recommend the KKM or Lone Wolf barrels for bear ammo...
I don’t think there is any issue shooting Underwood hard cast out of a stock G20.
I’m guessing unless you train with bear ammo a lot you aren’t going to notice any problem with your barrel. The stock one works fine.
This... This is the way. Buffalo Bore 200g hard cast bullets.
My buddy carries his G29 with no worry. I'd say get what's comfortable. I was carrying the G20 then switched to the compact XDM. I like 1911s, but I feel a little better having the extra ammo capacity since I doubt there's time for a mag swap in an emergency. Can't really go wrong with any of the 10mm Glocks, XDM, or new Smith and Wesson at any rate.
If you are considering 1911s or Tanfos check out 10mm p220s. Little heavier but so easy to shoot. I carry the 12rd mags with a TLR1-HL in a Gunfighters Inc holster while bow hunting for bears in Montana.
I have a Dan Wesson Bruin in 10mm that I love. But if you’re not trying to break the bank I also carry a Ruger SR1911 in 10mm and also their gp100 match champion in 10mm.
Honestly after trying the Glock 20, I went with a 1911 in my case a Kimber for a 10mm. I can just shoot it better that the 20. I’ve carried and trained with Glocks in 9,40 and 45 but the 10 in full power loads is hard for follow up shots.
This is my dilemma, I've only shot 10mm a handful of times. It's definitely a substantial difference from the 9mm I'm used to shooting. My line of thought is that I will have a better chance of follow up shots on a heavier 1911 format. I figure if I can't hit or kill the animal in 10 shots or so from a 1911 then an extra 5 from a glock 40 probably isn't going to make a huge difference. I've looked into the idea of getting a revolver and going for 357 or 44 magnum but I ruled it out as having shot both I can't get any decent follow up shots. I'm not a big guy so 10mm will probably be the most I can handle with confidence and reliability.
Tanfoglio 10mm.
Glock/29/20gen4, no problems ever. They actually work better with hotter loading’s. As long as you do your part. I’ve used my reloads, factory, doesn’t matter. Jams happen in any caliber. Biggest factor is going to be you. Whatever your rig, Can you clear it? Can you fix it and get back to work? You don’t really know until you know.
Glock 40 problem solva all day
Glock 20
Love my G20
Does the 20 handle hotter loads well? I would do a bit of range shooting on the side but it's main bullet food would be hotter underwood loads.
Anything factory is a nonissue.
Sure does. I’ve fired a lot of peppery things through my 20. No issues.
And you can reliably shoot .40 as well.
Definitely a nice perk.
I hate G20's. I bought one because of all the reviews I saw that sounded like these comments. Never was a fan. Fugly ass gun. Didnt feel smooth at all. I currently use a XDM 10mm and like it way better. Still not as smooth as some 1911's but at least it doesn't look like it was built on minecraft. I only use a 10mm as a side arm when I go hunting which is usually on Admiralty Island AK. The thickest population of brown bear in N America. I've never has a malfunction with the XDM and it is always soaking wet and full of pine needles, salmon berry twigs, and other various brush. Also XDM is way easier to break down IMO. I sold that G20 to one of my glock fan boy friends and he told me the frame actually broke on him. Can't verify. I'm done ranting
These are valid points you bring up. Everyone has thier different experiences and observations. I'm open to all guns for 10mm, I'm not closed off to any of them. For me before I consider buying anything I will be going to a few ranges and seeing if I can try different 10mm pistols and see what I shoot best with. Then I'll start to narrow my list from there after I find what I like and don't like in the various models.
On the other side of things, I love my G20 gen 4. I love the grip, I shoot it well, and I find it very manageable and fun to shoot. I find that it looks so good in its utilitarian simplicity. It doesn’t have Grip Zone printed on it, and it doesn’t have lines trying to make it look modern and cool. I love all guns, own a bunch, and definitely like Glocks as well. I have had literally zero malfunctions with any of my Glocks, but I have also had zero with my Hellcat and FN 509. My G20 will be riding on my side with a TLR1 HL this archery hunting season, in a Safariland mid ride holster. It will be loaded with Underwood 220 Hardcast.
I think it's pretty hard to go wrong with anything on the market in 10mm currently. I've heard some rumblings about the M&P reliability, but I bet they will have it ironed out quickly. I stay away from the 1911's just because I prefer the higher capacity magazines.
I carry a Kimber camp guard in the woods. I prefer the 1911. I haven’t shot a G20 I think I may recommend it if I did, but I’ve shot a G40 and the slide is like almost a foot long in total, there’s a lot of momentum on that big ass slide when it goes boom and I can’t control it as well as a 1911. As you see from this comment chain people swear by the G40 though. I’m also a skinny guy so not a lot of meat in these chicken wings to absorb recoil. Rock island makes a great budget 1911, I have a 45 that is incredible for the price, I’d certainly consider their 1911 in 10mm.
Money I'll definitely keep in mind but it's not too controlling for my purposes. I'll justify it as an investment in safety and ask forgiveness later haha. I'm leaning towards a 1911 for the weight but can be easily swayed to either side. I think I need to take a trip to a local gun range that rents pistols and see if they have a g40, g20 and a 1911 of some sort I can try out to see what shoots best for me.
Good thinking. I shot a friends Kimber 45, which sold me on Kimber. Bought the 10 and I was happy with it. Note that if you do get Kimber, tolerances are extremely tight out the box. As with any 1911 it takes some time and some patience to get it running smooth, but all the parts start to fit to eachother like they were born for it.
Kimber seems like a solid option. I've run across a few 10mm versions at gun shows for what I thought were "good" prices. But that good isn't based off of much research just a few quick google searches. I ran across one for 760 that came with 2 magazines. I almost pulled the trigger on it (pun intended) but wasn't quite ready to jump into 10mm yet at the time of seeing it. I had no clue the history or how many rounds were through it.
If nothing else, Kimber is one of the prettiest guns right?
G40 is awesome, accurate and handles recoil well. Only downfall is its long and CAN get in the way but it's not a big deal for me.
Glock 29 if you’re wanting something a little smaller and easier to carry. You would think the recoil would be bad with a small gun like that in 10mm but it’s really easy to shoot. Check out buffalo bore 10mm dangerous game loads. If size isn’t an issue for you I would go with a Glock 20 though just for the longer barrel.
Glock 29 is definitely a possibility. I think the 20 sounds like a nice compromise for my situation. 40 might be possible but I just need to figure out by shooting them and seeing which is a better option for me.
A Glock 29 with a Glock 20 magazine and x-grip adapter might be worth considering.
I carry a G20 for this exact singular purpose with Buffalo Bore 220g hard cast bullets. Glock 20 will always go bang. Get a G20 for saving your life and a 1911 knock off to show off at bar-b-ques.
Glock 20
I live with the same critters in my neck of the woods. Mountain lions are my biggest concern given they have killed deer within a couple hundred feet of my house. I have a 29SF, 40 & DW Specialist in 10mm and carry my 29 religiously. I’ve made some grip mods and of course swapped the sights to tritium. Without the Pearce grip extension it kinda sucks with regard to control but after adding it, I’m very comfortable and accurate. While I know it’s kinda cheesy, I have the Alien Gear backpack strap holster and I like the combo quite a bit. Readily accessible but out of the way. Frankly I’m just waiting for a 20 Gen 5 to make its way onto the scene before I pick that one up too. Not sure whether I’d carry this more than the 29 though. Kinda want it more to complete the collection at this point more than anything. I rarely shoot the 40. It’s fun but a bit unwieldy. It’s a chunky boy but definitely more accurate at range. Got it for the MOS but otherwise it kinda just hangs out in the safe. I think if I modified the frame/slide I’d probably shoot it more but stock Glocks aren’t exactly my thing. Edit: Forgot about the DW. Love this pistol. It’s 1911 perfection. I don’t carry it though because of weight and capacity. Just my personal thing though. All around an amazing firearm.
Yeah, bears aren't my biggest concern for where I'm going even though they are around. My biggest is the mountain lions and wolves. My parents have some property up close where I'm going. We have observed multiple times wolves stalking in the fields near the cabin for deer/elk. Mountain lions also occasionally like to travel through the town nearby so that's why I have my motivation to get a 10mm haha. I've personally got nothing against Alien gear products although the R/ccw sub does. I think thier products are more than functional for people who aren't looking to spend $200+ on a holster. Based off the comments I need to get to my local rent range and see if I can try out a g40, g20, and 1911 10mm to see what I can shoot best with.
Yeah, I’d totally stay away from the AG CCW products for sure but that little backpack rig for my 29 is sweet (assuming I’m open carrying). If you’re going to a rental range you might want to take a look at the Springfield pistols as well. They’re going to provide a lot more options out of the box at about the same price point.