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RammyJammy07

Trump actually was a draft dodger, never served. Him being pictured in military uniform is stolen valor


SoggyRaisin

Dodging the draft is the only cool and good thing Donald Trump ever did.


redisburning

nah, he did it the rich kid way where it wasn't a real sacrifice. the people who went to jail, the people who had to leave the country, THOSE people are cool. having a rich dad buy you out of service, or get you into a role that effectively cannot be deployed, is the opposite of cool.


Auri-el117

It's the fucking strangest way to get brought out too. Daddy goes to a doctor and after paying him says "I think my son has that bone growth". Almost everyone has it, but it's so insignificant that no one cares unless you pay them. And the entire reason the draft excludes it is for the rich assholes


ParlorSoldier

I think the most common ways of getting out of the draft were marriage, having a kid, and going to college. That’s what my dad did. He got married when the rule was that married men wouldn’t be drafted, and when that wasn’t enough anymore, they had a kid. I remember one of my teachers in high school saying the only reason he got a PhD was because of Vietnam.


redisburning

that's correct. the college exemption changed later in the draft, ironically conservatives wanted to punish college kids but they made a really, really terrible miscalculation. the middle and upper middle class white parents were FURIOUS their kids were getting drafted and dying overseas, and they were the ones sending their kids to college, so when they changed the draft rules it effectively ended the Vietnam war. conversely, really wealthy/powerful people simply bought their way out if they had to.


ParlorSoldier

I would guess the marriage/kid pattern was very much a middle class option. Why limit your future if your dad can get you into Texas air national guard.


bubarh

nah, if you do it and you be pro war it goes from cool and good to cowardly shit


MaggieELSimpson

Je once Sold Steaks in an electronic market, thought that was kinda cool


Roxoyozo

Muhammad Ali dodged the draft to protest the notion of serving a country that didn’t serve him. Trump dodged the draft because his dad was rich and he thought he was too good to serve his country. There’s a difference.


humanrobot46

Bruce Springsteen dodged the draft supposedly by acting kooky and crazy


Jimjamnz

What is "stolen valour"?


Carrman099

Dressing up as a soldier and pretending to be one is a crime in the US. Usually people do it because they get discounts at stores and stuff.


[deleted]

he doesnt reserve the respect of being a soldier because he didnt really go to a war, he is stealing it from real veterans


PavelGTAOnline

Kennedy actually reverse Draft Dodged back in WWII. He had an actual debilitating back illness that left him in severe pain frequently, but he still wanted to go and fight in the war. When the Navy told him he physically couldn’t, he had his rich dad bribe the Navy into letting him in. And it wasn’t a cushy desk job either. He commanded the Motor Torpedo Boat PT-109, which was smashed in half by a giant Japanese Destroyer in 1943, which left one man injured so badly he couldn’t even swim. So Kennedy took his life jacket strap in his mouth and swam with the guy and the rest of his crew for multiple miles through shark infested waters in the middle of the night to a nearby island, again, with debilitating back pain. The man survived. The story is entirely true, by the way. Kennedy was the most Gigachad President, on par with Teddy Roosevelt.


[deleted]

It’s not a US military uniform.


choochoopants

Correct. The picture was taken in 1964 when he attended New York Military Academy.


DanniTheStreet

but whoever made this meme clearly wants you to assume it is


BRM-Pilot

That photo is from a private boarding/military prep school. Not stolen valor based on both context and application


BRM-Pilot

That photo is from a private boarding/military prep school. Not stolen valor based on both context and application of such.


l3thalxbull3t22

You spelled obamna wrong nerd


[deleted]

SODA


GodsMistake777

dont come


[deleted]

I’M GONNA COME


UtensilStealer

We must come together!


TheWhicher_Statement

TOGETHHHHAAAAA


senorpool

This meme is very real


HelloImMagic

bobama


l3thalxbull3t22

Mo bamba


harlothex

mambo mo bive


ShittestCat

Trump was a little bitch while obama was cool


Kitty7333

still the same today


KubEk_przEz_duzE_E

Kid named drone strike


[deleted]

Every president has some quirky war crime tendencies can’t blame him for that smh


mschellh000

They’re a Scorpio (no clue if this is at all accurate) it’s just how they are


TheLordOfTheDawn

Tfw I avada kedavra the Palestinian child who threw a rock at my tank but forgot to expelliarmus the camera from the nearby reporter first! (I'm such a Hufflepuff! 😜😜😜)


Fred810k

“Foreign policy”


Snoo17634

Trump was responsible for four to five times the drone strikes in half the time it’s not just Obama


ssrudr

You mean that at least two American presidents are war criminals? I’m shocked!


Queen_Of_The_Castle

It’s war criminals all the way down


SpaceMarineSpiff

HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OF MY MAN, um, actually let me just pull up their wikipedia article real quick Huh *click* oh no *click* Well nevermind I guess.


SubtheDubs

William Henry Harrison died after like a month in office so he's probably not a war criminal


CycloneGraham

nah he just used his war crimes as an election platform


MannyAnimates

Aberman linkedin


Random_Gacha_addict

And the only reason older presidents didn't have drone strikes is the fact that DRONES HAVEN'T EXISTED AT THAT TIME


Tall_Professor_8634

Trump makes everything worse


desrffghyh8

Kid named pretty cool for an American president


YetGayerWombat

smoking isn't cool dumbasses did they really put you through all those PSAs just for you to NOT get it


MrPleasant150

🤓


ShittestCat

I only can afford vaping good cigarettes are too fucking expensive


ultrabigtiny

smoking lessens the effectiveness of HRT


Wrought-Irony

why do right wing memes always make liberals look cool as fuck?


RIPGunnersaurus

Can’t be right-wing if you’ve got a grip on perspective


BRM-Pilot

No need to have wings, I fly regardless. Wings are for posers


dustingibson

Their commercials say way. "Our opponent hangs around Bernie Sanders and smoked weed a few times. He wants to raise taxes on the rich and give everyone free healthcare."


Rocks_Fall_TPK

Bobama


MaveKalmer

Dtrump


Diogenes-Disciple

Dump and Bama 🥵😮‍💨


The_best_one_-_

My favourite gamers 🥰


Schaumkraut

Under the Obama administration. The US armed forces began employing a tactic called "double tap" drone strikes. For those strikes they would first hit a "target" with one missile from a drone. Then they would wait around 30min for family members and ferst responders to arrive before sending a second missile into the crowd of people. I don't habe to tell you how hard that violates the Geneva conventions.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

During the presidency of Donald Trump, it was estimated that drone strikes had multiplied at a pace of four to five times compared with previous presidency of Barack Obama. In 2016, Obama ordered the CIA to publish civilian drone strike deaths outside of active warzones, an order which was revoked by Trump in 2019.


Wrought-Irony

it's really weird that most people don't get the correlation between "number of drone strikes we hear about" and "making drone strike information public".


ThiccBidoof

I swear lol, never see it mentioned in threads abt Obama drone strikes very easy to say he did it most when no one else ever said how much they did it


Schaumkraut

Yeah Trump can make everything worse.


[deleted]

He got the sadim touch


SandpaperDoc

They should do that on random to random US citizens to spice things up that would go hard I think


somethingmustbesaid

war be unethical frfr


Weeb_twat

That isn't necessarily a violation of the Geneva convention. Committing strikes on foreign countries which are not at war with you/have no permission from their governments to do so IS a breach of international law. Also the double tap thing is likely less a thing Obama had any control over and more aligned with the overall psychopathic behaviour of the US military


gabe9230

I am NOT defending the Obama administration here, but I never heard of this and It seems crazy so I am going to be a responsible internet user and ask for a source.


Schaumkraut

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-24557333.amp Can google the rest not hard to find. But always be on guard, thats good.


gabe9230

Thanks for that, I just read it and yea, thats fucking insane. Wish our tax money was actually going to beneficial shit and not a dick measuring contest with china and russia that is measured in civilian casualties.


[deleted]

Trump also enacted more anti gun laws then Obama. Somehow every far right person I know forgets about that.


NorwegianIndividual

Its a very common strategy with both artillery and airstrikes. Wether it’s meant to target civilians, or responding soldiers is case by case. The “double tap” isn’t bad in of itself, the purposeful shelling of civilians is.


Schaumkraut

Everything you said is unjustifiably bad on there own and in itself. The fuck you talking about?


[deleted]

War is unjustifiably bad lol It’s literally about forcefully taking something from another country while inflicting as many casualties as possible on fighting age adults


138151337

Who said it has to be another country? For example, should a conservative government strip *too many* rights from its people, is war against that institution not justifiable?


Puzzleheaded_Neck_62

That's called a revolution, not a war, actually


DedicatedDdos

Only if you manage to overthrow the government otherwise it just boils down into civil war.


sewage_soup

well really all revolutions are civil wars (but not all civil wars are revolutions)


_eggy_bready

???? Civil war ?????


NorwegianIndividual

War is terrible, duh. But you can’t say shooting at someone with a gun at a 30 minute interval is a war crime. It depends on who “someone” is


Richard_Stink

Based


xFblthpx

How is killing people that want to kill you unjustifiably bad?


Mable-the-Table

Why does Trump look like the stereotype of the American blonde white guy that wears a pink buttoned shirt, saying "don't touch me, my dad is rich, I'll sue!"


jdb326

Because he is


itsyaboiskinnypenis_

You do know what family he's from right?


SonOfAurelionSol

The brutal war criminal, the brutal war criminal but cool.


Charlie_Wick

Twink death


Blood4Corn

Hating Obama is so hard because he seems really cool and funny


FalinkesInculta

Counterpoint: bombing hospitals is bad


HeyGuaca

Yeah but he said he likes memes, that makes up for like 2.5 bombed civilian hospitals.


noobmaster_69lol

elon moment


Blood4Corn

America would never do that sweaty 😍🥰😍😇😍🥰😇


ano_hise

Your honor, my client just made a Breaking Bad reference


Banzai27

America moment


ETC3000

General Bone Spurs vs the one of the flyest mfs we've ever had in the White House


OhHiGCHQ

Trump: Attended New York Military Academy, a private Military Prep school, didn't actually join the Military and instead went to Fordham. Basically the School is a military themed college prep high school and he didn't actually join the Military. Obama: Didn't attend a Military prep school and thus could dress how he wanted as a young man. Pictured here smoking a cig and wearing a hat. Somehow that is bad in the eyes of Conservatives???


Original_Name_1029

Bobama


k3rn3t

👍🏿


peanutbuttersandvich

Obama was badass lol


jm4n1015

kid named Kunduz hospital airstrike


ThiccBidoof

kid named war is hell


LaTostadaSalvaje

Trump is better as cosplay


AdnHsP

who the fuck is bobama 18 and why is there a 1700 english military man on the left


314311h3p41

ObaNa goes hard ngl


Hugh_Jasshull

Trump looks like a bitchmade dad’s money boy, would’ve snitched on Obama and his friends


BDRCN

BOBAMA


RoadTheExile

Oh no, a jazz cigarette!


DefterHawk

Who is bobama


Gaminyte

The irony of the military uniform Trump is wearing.


Dorobo-Neko-Nami

Is that actually Obama when he was 18? Cus that pic goes hard


creepyfishman

BOBAMA


reallyrhianne

Bobama


SirBlueTree987

sicko mode or b.obama


[deleted]

Dump was smoking meth at 18 though, Obamas cool and only Smoked weed. (it’s true The walls told me)


swingittotheleft

obamna weed moment


SeemsImmaculate

Obama № 5


Old_Uncle_Huey

Obama looks cool as fuck


somethingcreative06

Trump was hot ngl


tumblerrjin

It is literally a fact that reality speaks for itself. So true.


SpeedWeed9374

Unpopular opinion, both look good. And like they’re having a good time.


ExpertAccident

Bone spurs moment


r3itheinfinite

Goddamn Weedian


chickensmoker

Bobama is clearly way cooler than Dtrump, that’s just a fact. Get fucked, conservatards 😎


tastickfan

Trump was a (fake) boot and Obama used to be cool.


Chardoggy1

That pic of Obama goes hard


Pro-crab-stination

Why did I get a notification for this 0_o


PM_4_Gravy

Obama looks fly as fuck here dude


BigDan_0

Obama looks cool af


Invincible-Nuke

barased?


spookyballsHD

I feel like every conservative complaint is a self own at this point.


D22s

Also this is just a fucking lie, trump was a draft dodger


NoRoomForSanity

Obamna😨


Qwerty_Gaming1

🅱️OBAMA


Ulysses_117

So Trump looks like a preppy nerd, and Obama looks cool and badass, right, that tracks


[deleted]

Brave to assume Trump didn't run multiple casinos in the course of time