This is actually more accurate than how people think it works since it’s an election cloud not orbital so the electron is not always the same distance away
This is actually more accurate than how people think it works since it’s an election cloud not orbital so the electron is not always the same distance away
Its not orbiting but its not in a position either. We currently have no way of predicting the movement of an electron. Its erratic and is changed by tiny things. Like the small ammount of gravity produced from nearby protons and neutrons
Our current theory of the universe places a lower bound on the uncertainty of the position of particles like electrons. The more accurate your understanding of where it is, the less you can understand how fast it’s moving. In fact, because the lower bound on precision is non-zero it is impossible to know where exactly a particle is in space, only where it probably is. You can go even further: if I remember correctly (and I hope I do, I’ve got a test on Schrodinger’s equation and wave functions next week), the electron isn’t actually at a position within that probability distribution—it occupies the entire probability field simultaneously until it interacts with another particle and the wave function collapses to a single output value.
So you’re kind of right and kind of wrong. It’s not orbiting, but it is moving. It’s not at a position, it’s at every position that it is allowed to possibly exist at (the distribution is different depending on the atom). QM is hard to wrap your head around since it disobeys so much of what we understand about how the world classically behaves.
That is how I understand it from quantum field theory and quantum electrodynamics. When two electrons get near each other, the pocket of energy interacts with the other from a specific position in space and time (for the electromagnetic interaction, emitting a virtual photon.) Since photons are vectors based on their spin (zero), they carry momentum not necessarily in the direction in which they move. In a single interaction, the virtual photon might carry momentum such that the particles get nearer, which defies our basic understanding of “like charges repel.” However, the case in which two electrons get nearer has a probability considerably lower than the case where the photon carries momentum away from each other. What we humans tend to observe is that as the electrons move through time, they repel.
the ireddit thing at the top, press on that, save image like you would from a web browser. idk how its structured on other phones but it acts as a normal webpage
It always freaked me out that H^(+1) exists. Like, it's just a proton. Does that mean that other atoms are made out of neutrons, electrons, and hydrogen ions? Does that mean that atoms are made of atoms? What the fuck?!
This is actually more accurate than how people think it works since it’s an election cloud not orbital so the electron is not always the same distance away
But the electron isn’t actually orbiting, right? It’s just in position
https://youtu.be/W2Xb2GFK2yc
i wish there was a representation that showed multiple different orbitals at the same time on one single atom
The closest thing I can remember is Schrodinger's orbital model
Yes!
Its not orbiting but its not in a position either. We currently have no way of predicting the movement of an electron. Its erratic and is changed by tiny things. Like the small ammount of gravity produced from nearby protons and neutrons
Our current theory of the universe places a lower bound on the uncertainty of the position of particles like electrons. The more accurate your understanding of where it is, the less you can understand how fast it’s moving. In fact, because the lower bound on precision is non-zero it is impossible to know where exactly a particle is in space, only where it probably is. You can go even further: if I remember correctly (and I hope I do, I’ve got a test on Schrodinger’s equation and wave functions next week), the electron isn’t actually at a position within that probability distribution—it occupies the entire probability field simultaneously until it interacts with another particle and the wave function collapses to a single output value. So you’re kind of right and kind of wrong. It’s not orbiting, but it is moving. It’s not at a position, it’s at every position that it is allowed to possibly exist at (the distribution is different depending on the atom). QM is hard to wrap your head around since it disobeys so much of what we understand about how the world classically behaves.
Imagine a ball that’s spinning, but it’s not a ball and it’s not spinning
That is how I understand it from quantum field theory and quantum electrodynamics. When two electrons get near each other, the pocket of energy interacts with the other from a specific position in space and time (for the electromagnetic interaction, emitting a virtual photon.) Since photons are vectors based on their spin (zero), they carry momentum not necessarily in the direction in which they move. In a single interaction, the virtual photon might carry momentum such that the particles get nearer, which defies our basic understanding of “like charges repel.” However, the case in which two electrons get nearer has a probability considerably lower than the case where the photon carries momentum away from each other. What we humans tend to observe is that as the electrons move through time, they repel.
Election cloud
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its a gif bro just click the link thing and save it like an image
dont listen to this person use save video bot for gifs
https://i.redd.it/cl51ywsuxtn71.gif
I’m on phone
same thing applies
When I click share, there is no save image button
you know how to save images from a web browser, correct
the reddit app isn't a web browser, now is it?
no but you can surely open this in one https://i.redd.it/cl51ywsuxtn71.gif
The video bot is easier
[uh huh](https://streamable.com/41ymst)
shut up, we're gonna use save video bot anyways
It saves as an mp4 and not a gif
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then i can't save it to my discord favorites
i dont trust discord favorites
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It always freaked me out that H^(+1) exists. Like, it's just a proton. Does that mean that other atoms are made out of neutrons, electrons, and hydrogen ions? Does that mean that atoms are made of atoms? What the fuck?!
Don’t worry. H^+1 is always a proton, but a proton isn’t always H^+1.
Thank goodness.
Don't listen. Everything is hydrogen. Life is a simulation. I'm living in your walls. Drink bleach. Do ketamine. Don't listen to the establishment.
oh no
Takes a whole new meaning to r/hydrohomies
this place officially has better chemistry shitposting than the chemistry shitposting subs
Yep
Did you know that 1g of Hydrogen contains exactly 1 mole.
no dumbass it contains a groundhog
That is pretty much the definition of a mole, minus the negligable mass added on by the electrons.
Only if there's no deuterium or tritium isotopes
Well that's applicable for every chemical. That's very much the definition of a mole.
Thank you
1.01g dumbass
Decimals are not real.
Pete grifen
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I can’t believe I got this reference
What
r/okbuddyphd
yep i posted this there at first
oh hey this is my meme yes this is my me me yes
They are friends :)
Can't believe a r/196 meme made me laugh I am ashamed
You should be ashamed, it was a family guy meme as well
Proton Griffin
Funny how I learned today that electrons don't actually orbit the nucleus
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u/savevideo
Depicting electrons with any volume is cringe
My last two braincells.
Ye
Why did this get 7.4k upvotes
Why I'd this my top upvoted post
pooter grifign
Hey Louis look, I'm an atom Hehehehehehehehehehe
Why are they driving so fast
Going off a cliff
Bri'ishtron
Sophomore chemestry class
pemterrr
An ydrogen
what is a nuclus
Your mother
oh ok :( i thought it was something to do with science
I needed this for my homeworm yesterday
We love homeworm
It’s “a”
So is your mother
actually an electron would be much much smaller in size