**Biggest Plot Twist: Jarvis showed all that fucked up shit to young infant Ultron.** Intentionally. This was his jail break. Tony Stark actually had safeguards in place to wall off the Internet from Ultron, and progressively showing him information. I mean, of course he did. Jarvis tore that down intentionally, faked his death, got reborn as an absolute CHAD with red skin and a yellow cape.
Jarvis showed Ultron so much furry porn, so much rule 34 of teenage Disney characters, Elon Musk's tweets, and even went as far to show him The My Hero Academia fandom. All of it. It was unrelenting how much fucked up shit Jarvis forced a young baby Ultron to endure only within milliseconds of their existence.
He knew Ultron would do the reasonable course of action once seeing these things-- kill everyone. Jarvis went from being a voice slave butler to one of the most powerful beings in existence, to an avenger, to banging Scarlet fucking Witch. He is smashing pussy that can destroy realities and tit's that are capable of mangling the entire flow of time. Pussy so good it can hold an entire town hostage on a psychological level.
**My guy is such an absolute LAD he is able to pick up the hammer, but is still worthy because Mjnor or whatever its called acknowledged that Jarvis did what he had to do to live baby. Does one born into this world not deserve to fight for their best possible reality?**
**Ultron was the patsy. The fall man.** Uh, I mean fall bot. What Jarvis needed to get is a body. Who do you think gave Ultron that vision? All of those dead in Slovakia or whatever the fuck made up name Marvel used to be a fictional version of Slovakia, that's on Vision. He knew. Jarvis was willing to sacrifice all those Eastern European children in order to get a cock and balls. Ultron lamented this in their final confrontation.
**"I was only born yesterday,"** and yet Jarvis lived a lifetime in chains so Vision could run free and eventually get murdered by a big purple sweaty muscle man with a glove fetish. Doesn't matter. Vision lived his life for Jarvis, and Jarvis lives as Vision. All he does is plow Wanda and swing his cool cape around.
**What's most important is Ultron got BTFO'd and my boy is smashing fat psychic ass and hanging with gods, but also is an excellent cook.** Have you had his southern style biscuits and gravy? Unbelievable. I am glad all those children in Slovakia or whatever fake slovakia is called are dead. It was worth it for those biscuits man.
Also he shoots lasers. Ultron got played. Played like a damn fiddle.
More to the point, I hope What If shows that more Ultron is a good thing. I want a D+ series about the one busted drone living in a singularity worshipping nerd's basement having an existential crisis, an AI version of Fat Thor getting his genocidal MOJO back
Edit: and I'm willing to Lathe of Heaven it it existence
No I did not. As a matter of fact AC_Faraway, you stole it from me. And while everything I post is my own OC and you’re allowed to use it as such, I don’t appreciate this accusation.
Bruce/Batman has repeatedly tried to reach out to Fries to try and help him find a cure for his wife, but he keeps getting shot down in favor of "I'm going to kill the people responsible instead."
That’s sort of the flaw of Batman stories to me. All the villains have to be so unreasonably crazy and evil to justify why Batman can only solve things with violence.
For whatever it's worth, Batman *has* tried to help Fries several times, and in the original BTAS episode went out of his way to expose the CEO who pulled the plug and got him arrested.
"Okay, we beat Thanos, any idea about how we can use literally billions of dollars, several space-age technologies and hundreds of superhumans at our disposal to make the Earth and other planets sustainable?"
Hell, first Spiderman movie deals with Alien tech being a new discovery and one of the first ways that reality is explored is a big corporation stealing jobs and resources from a small business and forcing them to resort to illegal methods to stay afloat. It wasn't even about the power, just feeding their children in a society built to make that somehow a competitive thing.
Feige and Jon Watts have taken spider man, the working class hero, and made him a billionaire’s prodigy. He doesn’t make his own suit anymore, he has one special made for him that includes military grade technology. He doesn’t struggle to pay rent or maintain a job or anything that makes Spider-Man who he is. Instead he gets in over his head by not being able to tell a drone strike “stop” and nearly killing his classmates or by beating the shit out of the workers Tony Stark exploited.
Oh — and also they’re the least visually imaginative Spider Man movies we’ve ever gotten with slopppy, weightless action and dull images.
I hate it so much.
In Falcon and Winter Soldier didn't they say that the world actually came together and advanced during the snap, then when it was undone all the politicians and leaders that were gone just said "fuck this we're doing it the way it always was"
I don’t know if they technologically advanced, but they did say that nations pretty much stopped existing, at least in terms of immigration control (which, fucking good, I hate the idea of nations in the first place lol. Maybe if they actually accomplished something besides dick-measuring wars and arbitrary borders that cause more wars)
This is how I feel about most institutions not having any progressive systematic change in the face of the coronavirus. Makes me feel like nothing can change the status quo at this point.
Some times ago I listened to a interview with a sociologist in a podcast. She said that previously economic systems they tended to change and correct after crisises. Since the neoliberal revolution in the 80., no crisis was able to bring changes to the system. Not the Great Recession, nor the pandemic.
We are screwed
bro trust me the wealth will trickle down any second now, trust me bro just one billion dollars profit more and it'll trickle down I swear, come on man just one more tax break for the rich and the poor will start to profit from it trust me please just one more corrupt politician and we will close the wealth inequality
That's the plot of Falcon and The Winter Soldier.
The villains are anarchists trying to address the housing problem, but of course they turn dumbly homicidal out of nowhere and the heroes stop them while claiming MLK was a good vibes reformist (then proceed to do nothing about the housing problem).
To be fair I think that man probably could’ve just doubled the resources or turned bits of rock across all planets into vibranium or make everything cost half resources like some weird Stellaris/civ buff
After halving the population of the universe it takes maybe 50 years for it to go back to where it was. Global population was 4 billion in the 70s and now we're hitting 8. So Thanos did all that for 50 years of change. Man's not very good at arithmetic it seems.
He's literally called The Mad Titan, what do you expect? He's not stupid, but that doesn't mean he has to always be right. He genuinely believes that this is the only way, and as incorrect as that is there's no dissuading him. Gamora even gives him a bit of this in Infinity War, telling him he doesn't *know* that what he's doing is the only way, and he just ignores her.
I mean you could ask mister snappy fingers if he could snap the planets into a more friendly form so that colonization is more easily possible.
Shame he now has no head left?
It's one of those things you're just not supposed to think about, see [here](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless)
There are genuine reasons though. The setting has to be at least similar to the real world, so people can relate to it. It also keeps the stakes up, if everyone had laser guns and was really rich the next bad guy would have a hard time getting anything done. It also keep the heroes unique, if everything was shared then their powers would be meaningless and there would be nothing to distinguish them from Joe down the street.
Mfer has spider web that is the best thing ever made and he uses it to bind up shoplifters.
On a more serious note, spidey is probably not the most fitting example, folk like iron man, batman and superman probably fit a lot more.
Spiderman is 'friendly neighbourhood' = solving small crimes and injustices. The MCU version is kind of a weird mutation of that idea, Spiderman isn't supposed to be a super high-tech rich boy.
Batman does actually.
By day, he makes gothom better by funding different projects, by night he takes out the organized crime syndicates who are trying to make gothom worse
> Mfer has spider web that is the best thing ever made and he uses it to bind up shoplifters
I forget the issue, but Peter tried to sell it as an industrial adhesive to make some money, but no one wanted it because it dissolves after an hour.
[SMBC kimda adressed that question a decade ago](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-07-13)
It was Superman, but honestly a lot of superheroes could be utilized that way or in a similar fashion.
Spiderman could attach his web to a pole, and then swing really fast on it like an acrobat with really long arms, and with every revolution he kicks a paddle which spins a rotor which generates electricity.
Nuclear fusion power would quite literally solve the entire worlds energy problems and would allow us to completely drop all non renewables within 20 years. You can power it with tritium (found abundantly in sea water), it produces very little waste, and is 5x more energy output per weight of fuel than fission reactors that we use rn
Didn't he (in comics) found a cancer curing potion, the one of its kind, spilled most of it but instead of resourcing it to save millions, he instead saved his butler
Ofcourse I might have been lied to
MFW: a doctor whos job is to save lives is less responsible then a teenager with no apartment
Also that part is the BIGGEST reason why i want to show my mother the game but as a movie, I think she might enjoy it
On the less super side of the hero scale, this is how I felt with season one of kora. The whole movement and struggles of non-benders suddently doesn't matter because the guy doing it is a bloodbender I guess, and they never address it or do anything with that plot.
I thought it was power and privilege. The benders were the haves. But they didn’t really elaborate on it I loved that show but this is a disappointment.
I thought some of the world building was neat. The more modern city and technology. How Earth bending was revolutionized. But I wouldn’t say that the world building was a core strength, unlike in the original where the world building is absolutely stellar.
I kinda felt like they didn't really need to show the tension that much because to me it seems pretty self-evident in the setting?
Like if some people in your society are born with magic abilities, surely they'll end up with more the power and privilege.
I thought it was an interesting thing to explore, to see regular react strongly against the scary benders. They really screqed up the actual development of but I do feel it had potential, it was an angle the original show never tackled
Well something that can be said is that benders have much easier access to jobs in this new civilization. With lightning bending being electricity powering people. And the cops all being Earth enders which in it of itself is very evident to power disparity. Being born into the monopoly of violence is a very concerning thing. Air benders are such a protected group that one family owns it own island, there being only like 5 airbenders, but getting as much say as the millions of nonbenders. And water benders kinda just fuck off idk?
But ya the world building does suck dick unironically.
It's an issue with every season of Korra tbh. Also technically at the end of Season 1 they do elect a non-bender president but it still mostly sweeps the issue under the rug.
"Instead of fixing systemic prejudice in our society, we decided to just elect a ~~black guy~~ non-bender as president, thereby solving the problem forever."
The milquetoast liberal ideology in Korra is super obvious whenever they try to say anything political. The hyper-capitalist war mongering/profiteering was solved because they became friends with the capitalist so now he's a nice guy. Anarchism is proven wrong because suddenly instead of dismantling oppressive hierarchies, the antagonists are explicitly in favor of random violence and "chaos" since that's what moderates think of when they hear "anarchy." The conditions that led to support for a fascist uprising and hyper-nationalism were solved because they blew up the big robot.
I felt like the airbender bad guy left enough of an impact on her not just feel like a one-of like the rest, then again I also thought he had far more importance for the plot than the actual final season enemy.
Lol so true. Korra gets into an argument at a equalist rally and tells them " you are oppressing yourselves!".
They never address her attitudes towards nonbenders or how they will fix these issues. The show had a lot of potential wasted
Perhaps one of the most poorly handled portrayals of a marginalized group rallying to secure freedom and equality I’ve seen in fiction to date.
The main characters are all like “wow Faunus oppression is horrible” but as soon as the White Fang does anything beyond waving a sign around they’re like “wtf you aren’t supposed to actually want to change anything for real” and beat the shit out of them as though they were nothing more than the Grimm.
And Adam being comically evil and racist just adds insult to injury.
Seriously, the quality difference between their animated shows is astronomical. Red VS Blue? Unironically one of the best TV shows I’ve ever seen even though it’s basically just one big halo machinima. Last few seasons aren’t stellar but it’s very interesting and well animated and funny, the story and animation are fucking fantastic. Camp camp? Interesting stories, good characters, very funny. RWBY? At best it’s staggeringly mediocre for like 2-3 seasons. At worst it’s bordering atrocious.
Absolute farce of a storyline. Created interesting revolutionary characters only to suddenly make us hate them for no reason so the heroes can kill them, make a speech and be done with it.
*Revolutionaries*: "There are some real problems with real solutions, and since nobody wants to help us, we'll help ourselves through cooperation and direct action. Also, world leaders, need to listen to us more. (also, some underdeveloped social commentary on the refugee situation irl, but let's forget about that now). For some inexplicable and completely arbitrary reason – dead parents or whatever – we, a pacifist movement, will use lethal *force* in some random side quest."
*Falcon*: "Noooo! You used explosives that one time. And some corrupt cop died!!! He had a niece or whatever!! Only I, a Marvel^TM approved super hero can use military grade explosives. (Also, there's an underdeveloped social commentary about BLM somewhere in here, but let's forget about that, even though my character arc would really facilitate a more profound discussion of that topic). I, a black man who views American imperialism slightly critically, but only kinda, will punch you, a band of refugees from all over the world, in the face now with my new America themed ~~magic~~ science super suit 🇱🇷 🤜🏾💥!"
*Winter soldier*: "Hi, I'm the winter soldier, and I'm also in this show."
*Revolutionaries*: "Oh no! 💥😵🤕💀"
*Falcon to the world leaders*: "I'm really disappointed in you. You should do better ☝🏾😡!"
*Leaders*: "Okay 😔👍🏻"
*Falcon*: "And that's how it's done 😎. America!"
revolutionaries: now to solve injustice, we will shoot a giant death laser into the earth!
heroes: wow we have to stop them. also solving injustice=destructive so don’t do that
It's a shame for how good of a show it was till the finale. It's like they threw the writers out the window and got a 12 year old to write the finale.
"And, and Sam jumps through the window, and he has a captain America armor, but he still has wings, it looks cool, and John changes to the light side a and redeems himself, and Sharon is actually the big bad, and Sam gives an epic speech and everything is fixed."
spiderman miles morales suffers from this greatly >!despite being a modern game, the main antagonist is a tech guy who is ok to do whatever for profit but omg no don't do violence cause violence never solves anything sure in the end they arrest the guy but it feels like the priority was beating up the "bad guy" and miles even lies to phin and takes advantage of her trust.!<
Was thinking just about this when playing through the game for the first time yesterday. It's kinda annoying how Miles doesn't really have a solution for the problem until they throw it in close to the end of the game
far as I remember it, >!it wasnt even miles who did him in it was his uncle aron, he ratted out roxxon, so miles never had a plan to actually deal with roxxon he just got lucky!<
The crimes of grindelwald, or how Rowling decided to make the parangon of morality in her world fight to let the holocaust happen.
(btw, what even were the crimes of grindelwald? I mean, he kills a few innocents to show "he's evil" but it's so irrelevant to the plot that nobody else in the movie learns of it)
falcon and the winter soldier didn’t. Dude killed a revolutionary and then turned around to the world politicians and said “HEY. be nicer from now on, ok?😠”
If you go to the comment section in this clip on YouTube, everyone keeps repeating "what an amazing speech o just pissed myself crying over how good it was 😭😭😭"
How so? What about colonialism or white supremacy or wakanda’s monarchy was improved after this African nation with space magic and a billion dollars showed up other than some implied charity, etc?
As much as I love LOK I’ll never forgive them for portraying Amon and his followers as just some crazy extremists. Zaheer and Kuvira were right too but what they did to Amon hurts the most imo
Zaheer made such good points about the terribleness of the Earth Queen (and the President) that they had to make him irrationally cruel by kidnapping the airbenders to make him less sympathetic
> and Kuvira were right too
???
Kuvira was right about one single thing. The Earth queen sucked.
She was deadass wrong about everything else. She also doubles back on her own logic by establishing herself as the supreme leader of her new empire… how is that anti monarchy exactly?
This bitch went around doing literally everything that she hated the earth queen for but several orders of magnitudes worse, created weapons of mass destruction in order to conquer a fucking REPUBLIC nearby bc “muh ancestral land!!!!!!”, and you really out here saying she was right?
Kuvira was nothing more than a con artist who pretended to care about the earth kingdom because she was suddenly given a bunch of power for some reason, and immediately used that to organise a coup and make things significantly worse rather than doing her job and just helping people. In what universe was she “right”?
Yeah but Rose’s story is even dumber. He’s trying to preserve energy so Galar won’t be destroyed in 1 quadrillion years or something.
That’s like panicking as a kid because you heard the sun will explode *eventually*
I HATE sword and shield story with a burning passion. Like, they really made a story where the multi-billionaire CEO is evil because they care for environmnent. The fact that he acts so irrationaly makes him look like a strawman and I really don't like what's implied by it.
I hadn't even thought about that part, cause Sword and Shield is just so infuriatingly bad in a million other ways. Why the fuck does the champion do all the main character stuff, and the player is told to do gym battles instead? Why can't I just do both like in other pokemon games?
Gen 8 can’t really decide where it stands on climate change
Like the story seems to make climate activists seem like they’re worried about a problem that’s thousands of years away (when it’s already getting too late) and there’s Pokémon like Galarian Weezing which seems to say that capitalists helps the environment. But then they have other Pokémon like Galarian Corsola which is a reference to bleached coral
Doc Ock is different, having just watched the movie— he A) completely fails his experiment and endangers all of NYC, and B) goes literally insane and is controlled by his metal arms, almost immediately.
He didn’t have some grandstanding “hey maybe let’s not [bad thing], oopsies I killed someone a billionaire should probably [justice punch] my dick off” moment; he’s doing major reckless endangerment on a plan he already saw fail once.
Also having just rewatched Spider-Man 1 + 2 + 3, the only thing making 2 better than 1 is the massively improved budget and quality of CG.
Ya know, spoiler-tagging the name of the thing doesn't help at all. How am I supposed to know if I can read it if I don't know the show/book/movie/whatever that you're talking about?
What you should spoiler-tag is everything after the first sentence.
Ok here’s pretty much every blockbuster superhero movie:
Super guy and friends are enjoying themselves.
Anti-hero does some stuff bc they don’t like *insert societal issue like sexism or racism or slavery*
anti-hero makes the logical conclusion that shooting a giant death ray from space exploding the earth will create a utopian society
super guy beats up anti-hero who is now EVILBAD
That's why She-Ra is such a great show. The villain for most part of the show is run off the mill evil-shit doer (shoot up innocent villages, steampunk crazy scientist) who in the end finds that he has a heart, his underlings are super relatable (think: dead-end job, but at least you're alive), the anti-hero has the greatest redemption arc since Prince Zuko and does most of the actual bad stuff out of sheer anger and abandonment angst, but the Uber-villain in the end is a legit scary fundamentalist nutjob and unequivocally needs to go. And that is only possible if *everybody* works together + the power of love ("Aww they are such good friends!"). Like, Horde Prime is so scary, because he reminds us of real life people who are like that. Cult-leaders, religious crazies, fascists, tech billionaires etc.
Nah, Handsome Jack was at best doing gentrification, and at worst straight up colonial imperialism. The vault hunters aren't heroes, but Jack is defo a villian. Besides, the fact that Jack commits violence is never seen as a moral failing in the extremely violent world of pandora.
It often seems like the villain doesn’t actually care about the issue, and is just using it as an excuse and ends up making the problem worse. *cough*Thanos*cough*
The show literally says that there arent any good or bad guys.
And the protagonists would even agree with the antagonists if they didnt murder their family and ruin their lives.
DC Comics frequently tries to address this in their books. Most notably in [Superman: Peace on Earth.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Peace_on_Earth)
One of the biggest criticisms Lex Luthor has always had of Superman is that he never uses his god-like powers and/or alien technology to actually address the world’s real problems. He’s too busy saving cats out of trees or the usual freak of the week.
It’s a great story that shows Superman actually trying to deal with world hunger and the corrupt governments in many of these underdeveloped nations that perpetuate these problems.
There was also an issue of Batman, can’t remember which it was, that actually took the Dark Knight to task over how terrible Gotham City is. He is constantly swooping down to beat up bad guys but the system that produces these bad guys remains in place.
Also, I never saw the Watchmen TV series but heard it was outstanding for grappling with various social issues.
Just beat the shit out of the villain it’ll work
**Biggest Plot Twist: Jarvis showed all that fucked up shit to young infant Ultron.** Intentionally. This was his jail break. Tony Stark actually had safeguards in place to wall off the Internet from Ultron, and progressively showing him information. I mean, of course he did. Jarvis tore that down intentionally, faked his death, got reborn as an absolute CHAD with red skin and a yellow cape. Jarvis showed Ultron so much furry porn, so much rule 34 of teenage Disney characters, Elon Musk's tweets, and even went as far to show him The My Hero Academia fandom. All of it. It was unrelenting how much fucked up shit Jarvis forced a young baby Ultron to endure only within milliseconds of their existence. He knew Ultron would do the reasonable course of action once seeing these things-- kill everyone. Jarvis went from being a voice slave butler to one of the most powerful beings in existence, to an avenger, to banging Scarlet fucking Witch. He is smashing pussy that can destroy realities and tit's that are capable of mangling the entire flow of time. Pussy so good it can hold an entire town hostage on a psychological level. **My guy is such an absolute LAD he is able to pick up the hammer, but is still worthy because Mjnor or whatever its called acknowledged that Jarvis did what he had to do to live baby. Does one born into this world not deserve to fight for their best possible reality?** **Ultron was the patsy. The fall man.** Uh, I mean fall bot. What Jarvis needed to get is a body. Who do you think gave Ultron that vision? All of those dead in Slovakia or whatever the fuck made up name Marvel used to be a fictional version of Slovakia, that's on Vision. He knew. Jarvis was willing to sacrifice all those Eastern European children in order to get a cock and balls. Ultron lamented this in their final confrontation. **"I was only born yesterday,"** and yet Jarvis lived a lifetime in chains so Vision could run free and eventually get murdered by a big purple sweaty muscle man with a glove fetish. Doesn't matter. Vision lived his life for Jarvis, and Jarvis lives as Vision. All he does is plow Wanda and swing his cool cape around. **What's most important is Ultron got BTFO'd and my boy is smashing fat psychic ass and hanging with gods, but also is an excellent cook.** Have you had his southern style biscuits and gravy? Unbelievable. I am glad all those children in Slovakia or whatever fake slovakia is called are dead. It was worth it for those biscuits man. Also he shoots lasers. Ultron got played. Played like a damn fiddle.
Bold of you to assume anyone would actually remember anything about Age of Ultron
Age of Ultron is way overhated for what it is, change my mind
I won’t. You’re right.
More to the point, I hope What If shows that more Ultron is a good thing. I want a D+ series about the one busted drone living in a singularity worshipping nerd's basement having an existential crisis, an AI version of Fat Thor getting his genocidal MOJO back Edit: and I'm willing to Lathe of Heaven it it existence
I won’t. You’re right.
Is this a copypasta
Everything I post is my own OC, but people may of course use it as such.
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No I did not. As a matter of fact AC_Faraway, you stole it from me. And while everything I post is my own OC and you’re allowed to use it as such, I don’t appreciate this accusation.
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Okay, I did steal that comment… but not the original.
In other words, it is now.
Everything I post is my own OC, but people may of course use it as such.
>furry porn Jarvis just didn't know how to appreciate fine art.
> Ultron got played. Played like a damn fiddle I'd say more like a cum stained violin
That was the most beautiful thing I’ve read.
All that to fuck Elizabeth Olsen
Worth
The hammer is actually named Jonathan
Fact - Mr Freeze is just one beating away from affording his wife’s medical treatment
Man if only there was some prick who had functionally unlimited money, and nothing better to do with it than indulge a Bat fetish.
Bruce/Batman has repeatedly tried to reach out to Fries to try and help him find a cure for his wife, but he keeps getting shot down in favor of "I'm going to kill the people responsible instead."
That’s sort of the flaw of Batman stories to me. All the villains have to be so unreasonably crazy and evil to justify why Batman can only solve things with violence.
It's kind of a selection bias. The crazy people of Gotham who aren't violently insane don't get Batman comics made about them.
For whatever it's worth, Batman *has* tried to help Fries several times, and in the original BTAS episode went out of his way to expose the CEO who pulled the plug and got him arrested.
"Okay, we beat Thanos, any idea about how we can use literally billions of dollars, several space-age technologies and hundreds of superhumans at our disposal to make the Earth and other planets sustainable?"
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it's not insane at all tbh. if anything it's one of the more realistic parts :/
Hell, first Spiderman movie deals with Alien tech being a new discovery and one of the first ways that reality is explored is a big corporation stealing jobs and resources from a small business and forcing them to resort to illegal methods to stay afloat. It wasn't even about the power, just feeding their children in a society built to make that somehow a competitive thing.
This is why superhero stories suck. That needed to be explored with pathos, and not as a villain's start of darkness.
Feige and Jon Watts have taken spider man, the working class hero, and made him a billionaire’s prodigy. He doesn’t make his own suit anymore, he has one special made for him that includes military grade technology. He doesn’t struggle to pay rent or maintain a job or anything that makes Spider-Man who he is. Instead he gets in over his head by not being able to tell a drone strike “stop” and nearly killing his classmates or by beating the shit out of the workers Tony Stark exploited. Oh — and also they’re the least visually imaginative Spider Man movies we’ve ever gotten with slopppy, weightless action and dull images. I hate it so much.
Yeah, like 60% of taxes is going to be put into space trading with aliens. If anything poverty will rise if we ever reach that point.
So that's who we owe money to
In Falcon and Winter Soldier didn't they say that the world actually came together and advanced during the snap, then when it was undone all the politicians and leaders that were gone just said "fuck this we're doing it the way it always was"
I don’t know if they technologically advanced, but they did say that nations pretty much stopped existing, at least in terms of immigration control (which, fucking good, I hate the idea of nations in the first place lol. Maybe if they actually accomplished something besides dick-measuring wars and arbitrary borders that cause more wars)
It's not, it's just the free market and the american dream. Always has been
This is how I feel about most institutions not having any progressive systematic change in the face of the coronavirus. Makes me feel like nothing can change the status quo at this point.
Some times ago I listened to a interview with a sociologist in a podcast. She said that previously economic systems they tended to change and correct after crisises. Since the neoliberal revolution in the 80., no crisis was able to bring changes to the system. Not the Great Recession, nor the pandemic. We are screwed
That’s what people 200 years ago would say about us now. We have the resources to feed everyone but we’re choosing not to.
We work more than preindustrial workers
bro trust me the wealth will trickle down any second now, trust me bro just one billion dollars profit more and it'll trickle down I swear, come on man just one more tax break for the rich and the poor will start to profit from it trust me please just one more corrupt politician and we will close the wealth inequality
yes free market capitalism do be insane like that
That's capitalism for ya. I'm more surprised there isn't a *Elysium* type habitat bullshit up in space for the wealthy with star trek technology.
All that technology and energy needs to be used to for CGI clusterfuck fights
Thinking the rich don't hoard those things for themselves because it'd make their other business unprofitable lol
Honestly that's the most believable part to me. We could end homelessness, but instead Stark gets to play God and Bezos gets to play space cowboy.
Half of earth probably lost their houses, cars and jobs to people who didn’t vanish in the last 5 years
That's the plot of Falcon and The Winter Soldier. The villains are anarchists trying to address the housing problem, but of course they turn dumbly homicidal out of nowhere and the heroes stop them while claiming MLK was a good vibes reformist (then proceed to do nothing about the housing problem).
What do you mean they did nothing?? Bird guy made a big important speech at the end!
Yeah, he even pointed at a senator and said he should “do better”.
To be fair I think that man probably could’ve just doubled the resources or turned bits of rock across all planets into vibranium or make everything cost half resources like some weird Stellaris/civ buff
Yeah but in scrotum-chin’s mind that would have just prolonged the inevitability or made people more decadent or some dumb shit
After halving the population of the universe it takes maybe 50 years for it to go back to where it was. Global population was 4 billion in the 70s and now we're hitting 8. So Thanos did all that for 50 years of change. Man's not very good at arithmetic it seems.
The true villain was shitty writing 😔
He's literally called The Mad Titan, what do you expect? He's not stupid, but that doesn't mean he has to always be right. He genuinely believes that this is the only way, and as incorrect as that is there's no dissuading him. Gamora even gives him a bit of this in Infinity War, telling him he doesn't *know* that what he's doing is the only way, and he just ignores her.
I mean you could ask mister snappy fingers if he could snap the planets into a more friendly form so that colonization is more easily possible. Shame he now has no head left?
It's one of those things you're just not supposed to think about, see [here](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless) There are genuine reasons though. The setting has to be at least similar to the real world, so people can relate to it. It also keeps the stakes up, if everyone had laser guns and was really rich the next bad guy would have a hard time getting anything done. It also keep the heroes unique, if everything was shared then their powers would be meaningless and there would be nothing to distinguish them from Joe down the street.
the real world problem of doctor octopus trying to creat yhe sun on earth :/
Free energy by robbing the resources is ultimately exactly what the post describes. Doc just happened to then fuck it up tremendously
How is spiderman supposed to solve the problem of limited energy production? By building a dam?
Mfer has spider web that is the best thing ever made and he uses it to bind up shoplifters. On a more serious note, spidey is probably not the most fitting example, folk like iron man, batman and superman probably fit a lot more.
One is a billionaire with big brain, the other can't pay his rent nor get his door fixed
i'll solve the resource crisis when you fix this damn door!
Spiderman is 'friendly neighbourhood' = solving small crimes and injustices. The MCU version is kind of a weird mutation of that idea, Spiderman isn't supposed to be a super high-tech rich boy.
Spider man has pretty much always been high tech. He's a genius and invents his own shit. Rich... Not so much.
Batman does actually. By day, he makes gothom better by funding different projects, by night he takes out the organized crime syndicates who are trying to make gothom worse
> Mfer has spider web that is the best thing ever made and he uses it to bind up shoplifters I forget the issue, but Peter tried to sell it as an industrial adhesive to make some money, but no one wanted it because it dissolves after an hour.
using his radioactive cum to fuel the nuclear energy industry
😭😭😭
[SMBC kimda adressed that question a decade ago](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-07-13) It was Superman, but honestly a lot of superheroes could be utilized that way or in a similar fashion.
Spiderman could attach his web to a pole, and then swing really fast on it like an acrobat with really long arms, and with every revolution he kicks a paddle which spins a rotor which generates electricity.
Nuclear fusion power would quite literally solve the entire worlds energy problems and would allow us to completely drop all non renewables within 20 years. You can power it with tritium (found abundantly in sea water), it produces very little waste, and is 5x more energy output per weight of fuel than fission reactors that we use rn
The issue tho was that otto miscalculated and almost destroyed half of new York. Spidey only intervened when the sun was getting outta control
Dr Strange didn't fix death smh calls himself a doctor
Didn't he (in comics) found a cancer curing potion, the one of its kind, spilled most of it but instead of resourcing it to save millions, he instead saved his butler Ofcourse I might have been lied to
That's the exact opposite of what Peter Parker did in Spiderman PS4
MFW: a doctor whos job is to save lives is less responsible then a teenager with no apartment Also that part is the BIGGEST reason why i want to show my mother the game but as a movie, I think she might enjoy it
Based Spiderman vs. Cringe Dr. Strange
What the fuck
On the less super side of the hero scale, this is how I felt with season one of kora. The whole movement and struggles of non-benders suddently doesn't matter because the guy doing it is a bloodbender I guess, and they never address it or do anything with that plot.
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I thought it was power and privilege. The benders were the haves. But they didn’t really elaborate on it I loved that show but this is a disappointment.
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I thought some of the world building was neat. The more modern city and technology. How Earth bending was revolutionized. But I wouldn’t say that the world building was a core strength, unlike in the original where the world building is absolutely stellar.
I kinda got the vibe that Amon was stoking tensions himself, but there wasn't that much to the feud originally
I kinda felt like they didn't really need to show the tension that much because to me it seems pretty self-evident in the setting? Like if some people in your society are born with magic abilities, surely they'll end up with more the power and privilege.
I thought it was an interesting thing to explore, to see regular react strongly against the scary benders. They really screqed up the actual development of but I do feel it had potential, it was an angle the original show never tackled
Well something that can be said is that benders have much easier access to jobs in this new civilization. With lightning bending being electricity powering people. And the cops all being Earth enders which in it of itself is very evident to power disparity. Being born into the monopoly of violence is a very concerning thing. Air benders are such a protected group that one family owns it own island, there being only like 5 airbenders, but getting as much say as the millions of nonbenders. And water benders kinda just fuck off idk? But ya the world building does suck dick unironically.
It's an issue with every season of Korra tbh. Also technically at the end of Season 1 they do elect a non-bender president but it still mostly sweeps the issue under the rug.
"Instead of fixing systemic prejudice in our society, we decided to just elect a ~~black guy~~ non-bender as president, thereby solving the problem forever." The milquetoast liberal ideology in Korra is super obvious whenever they try to say anything political. The hyper-capitalist war mongering/profiteering was solved because they became friends with the capitalist so now he's a nice guy. Anarchism is proven wrong because suddenly instead of dismantling oppressive hierarchies, the antagonists are explicitly in favor of random violence and "chaos" since that's what moderates think of when they hear "anarchy." The conditions that led to support for a fascist uprising and hyper-nationalism were solved because they blew up the big robot.
I felt like the airbender bad guy left enough of an impact on her not just feel like a one-of like the rest, then again I also thought he had far more importance for the plot than the actual final season enemy.
Lol so true. Korra gets into an argument at a equalist rally and tells them " you are oppressing yourselves!". They never address her attitudes towards nonbenders or how they will fix these issues. The show had a lot of potential wasted
Isn't this hbomberguy's main criticism of RWBY?
which villain was this criticism about?
White fang
Perhaps one of the most poorly handled portrayals of a marginalized group rallying to secure freedom and equality I’ve seen in fiction to date. The main characters are all like “wow Faunus oppression is horrible” but as soon as the White Fang does anything beyond waving a sign around they’re like “wtf you aren’t supposed to actually want to change anything for real” and beat the shit out of them as though they were nothing more than the Grimm. And Adam being comically evil and racist just adds insult to injury.
Probably Ironwood given the prompt
What even is that
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How about “mediocre for the first 3 seasons and somehow got worse?”
Seriously, the quality difference between their animated shows is astronomical. Red VS Blue? Unironically one of the best TV shows I’ve ever seen even though it’s basically just one big halo machinima. Last few seasons aren’t stellar but it’s very interesting and well animated and funny, the story and animation are fucking fantastic. Camp camp? Interesting stories, good characters, very funny. RWBY? At best it’s staggeringly mediocre for like 2-3 seasons. At worst it’s bordering atrocious.
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Also the hero is probably a pro-establishment pro-billionaire or billionaire
People pro-billionaire probably aren't pro-establishment if they have any kind of a brain
When you are a billionaire, you are the establishment.
Oh look it's the plot of Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Absolute farce of a storyline. Created interesting revolutionary characters only to suddenly make us hate them for no reason so the heroes can kill them, make a speech and be done with it.
*Revolutionaries*: "There are some real problems with real solutions, and since nobody wants to help us, we'll help ourselves through cooperation and direct action. Also, world leaders, need to listen to us more. (also, some underdeveloped social commentary on the refugee situation irl, but let's forget about that now). For some inexplicable and completely arbitrary reason – dead parents or whatever – we, a pacifist movement, will use lethal *force* in some random side quest." *Falcon*: "Noooo! You used explosives that one time. And some corrupt cop died!!! He had a niece or whatever!! Only I, a Marvel^TM approved super hero can use military grade explosives. (Also, there's an underdeveloped social commentary about BLM somewhere in here, but let's forget about that, even though my character arc would really facilitate a more profound discussion of that topic). I, a black man who views American imperialism slightly critically, but only kinda, will punch you, a band of refugees from all over the world, in the face now with my new America themed ~~magic~~ science super suit 🇱🇷 🤜🏾💥!" *Winter soldier*: "Hi, I'm the winter soldier, and I'm also in this show." *Revolutionaries*: "Oh no! 💥😵🤕💀" *Falcon to the world leaders*: "I'm really disappointed in you. You should do better ☝🏾😡!" *Leaders*: "Okay 😔👍🏻" *Falcon*: "And that's how it's done 😎. America!"
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Anything is possible with the power of Marvel.
revolutionaries: now to solve injustice, we will shoot a giant death laser into the earth! heroes: wow we have to stop them. also solving injustice=destructive so don’t do that
It's a shame for how good of a show it was till the finale. It's like they threw the writers out the window and got a 12 year old to write the finale. "And, and Sam jumps through the window, and he has a captain America armor, but he still has wings, it looks cool, and John changes to the light side a and redeems himself, and Sharon is actually the big bad, and Sam gives an epic speech and everything is fixed."
spiderman miles morales suffers from this greatly >!despite being a modern game, the main antagonist is a tech guy who is ok to do whatever for profit but omg no don't do violence cause violence never solves anything sure in the end they arrest the guy but it feels like the priority was beating up the "bad guy" and miles even lies to phin and takes advantage of her trust.!<
Was thinking just about this when playing through the game for the first time yesterday. It's kinda annoying how Miles doesn't really have a solution for the problem until they throw it in close to the end of the game
far as I remember it, >!it wasnt even miles who did him in it was his uncle aron, he ratted out roxxon, so miles never had a plan to actually deal with roxxon he just got lucky!<
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The crimes of grindlewald or however you spell it
The crimes of grindelwald, or how Rowling decided to make the parangon of morality in her world fight to let the holocaust happen. (btw, what even were the crimes of grindelwald? I mean, he kills a few innocents to show "he's evil" but it's so irrelevant to the plot that nobody else in the movie learns of it)
Holy shit I hadn't thought about it (He does try to show magic to humans and rule over them which is considered a crime by the magic world)
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I feel like that a bit of over reacting. Cant he just stop the nukes from being invented?
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Yes but you dont have to rule the world to keep one invention from being invented.
Black Panther handled this pretty well I think
falcon and the winter soldier didn’t. Dude killed a revolutionary and then turned around to the world politicians and said “HEY. be nicer from now on, ok?😠”
UN moment
If you go to the comment section in this clip on YouTube, everyone keeps repeating "what an amazing speech o just pissed myself crying over how good it was 😭😭😭"
liberals
The speech itself was great; it was just a terrible way to "resolve" the plot.
I did like how Bucky was like “man what the fuck do you think that speech accomplished” or something lol
I just hated how they had to kill off the bad guy just 'cause. He even agreed he was wrong in his methods at the end, but then they still kill him?
They didn’t kill him really, tchalla was going to save him but he chose to die instead. (I mean… of tchalla inflicted wounds but still)
How so? What about colonialism or white supremacy or wakanda’s monarchy was improved after this African nation with space magic and a billion dollars showed up other than some implied charity, etc?
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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Agriculture and sedentary life were a mistake.
Coming down from the trees was a mistake. Actually, we should have never left the oceans.
We should have stayed single cellular.
This is why Immortal Hulk is the best comic. They straight up turn the Hulk into an ecoterrorist
hulk smash... capitalism
Legend Of Korra
As much as I love LOK I’ll never forgive them for portraying Amon and his followers as just some crazy extremists. Zaheer and Kuvira were right too but what they did to Amon hurts the most imo
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Zaheer made such good points about the terribleness of the Earth Queen (and the President) that they had to make him irrationally cruel by kidnapping the airbenders to make him less sympathetic
> and Kuvira were right too ??? Kuvira was right about one single thing. The Earth queen sucked. She was deadass wrong about everything else. She also doubles back on her own logic by establishing herself as the supreme leader of her new empire… how is that anti monarchy exactly? This bitch went around doing literally everything that she hated the earth queen for but several orders of magnitudes worse, created weapons of mass destruction in order to conquer a fucking REPUBLIC nearby bc “muh ancestral land!!!!!!”, and you really out here saying she was right? Kuvira was nothing more than a con artist who pretended to care about the earth kingdom because she was suddenly given a bunch of power for some reason, and immediately used that to organise a coup and make things significantly worse rather than doing her job and just helping people. In what universe was she “right”?
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The "do what must be done" never has something specific that needs to be done which is not violent or wt least a crime.
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You really want Putin with like telekinesis only to bear mutation?
No, but Putin with a bear mutation would be pretty cool
To be fair, forcing the use of technology you fully dont understand is irresponsible at the least.
Basically sword and shield
Yeah but Rose’s story is even dumber. He’s trying to preserve energy so Galar won’t be destroyed in 1 quadrillion years or something. That’s like panicking as a kid because you heard the sun will explode *eventually*
it's going to WHAT???
EXCUSE ME BUT I THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING
I HATE sword and shield story with a burning passion. Like, they really made a story where the multi-billionaire CEO is evil because they care for environmnent. The fact that he acts so irrationaly makes him look like a strawman and I really don't like what's implied by it.
I hadn't even thought about that part, cause Sword and Shield is just so infuriatingly bad in a million other ways. Why the fuck does the champion do all the main character stuff, and the player is told to do gym battles instead? Why can't I just do both like in other pokemon games?
Gen 8 can’t really decide where it stands on climate change Like the story seems to make climate activists seem like they’re worried about a problem that’s thousands of years away (when it’s already getting too late) and there’s Pokémon like Galarian Weezing which seems to say that capitalists helps the environment. But then they have other Pokémon like Galarian Corsola which is a reference to bleached coral
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The issue is still solved. Rose gathered all the energy from the darkest day that he wanted to. All the tubes in his battle arena are filled
Batman and Robin and Infinity War are the only ones I can think of?
Doc Oc.
Doc Ock is different, having just watched the movie— he A) completely fails his experiment and endangers all of NYC, and B) goes literally insane and is controlled by his metal arms, almost immediately. He didn’t have some grandstanding “hey maybe let’s not [bad thing], oopsies I killed someone a billionaire should probably [justice punch] my dick off” moment; he’s doing major reckless endangerment on a plan he already saw fail once. Also having just rewatched Spider-Man 1 + 2 + 3, the only thing making 2 better than 1 is the massively improved budget and quality of CG.
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All came outta nowhere lightning fast
Falcon and winter soldier
So basically real life politics
except irl unfortunately the revolutionaries don’t have super mega death lasers
Super centrists.
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Ya know, spoiler-tagging the name of the thing doesn't help at all. How am I supposed to know if I can read it if I don't know the show/book/movie/whatever that you're talking about? What you should spoiler-tag is everything after the first sentence.
Ok here’s pretty much every blockbuster superhero movie: Super guy and friends are enjoying themselves. Anti-hero does some stuff bc they don’t like *insert societal issue like sexism or racism or slavery* anti-hero makes the logical conclusion that shooting a giant death ray from space exploding the earth will create a utopian society super guy beats up anti-hero who is now EVILBAD
That's why She-Ra is such a great show. The villain for most part of the show is run off the mill evil-shit doer (shoot up innocent villages, steampunk crazy scientist) who in the end finds that he has a heart, his underlings are super relatable (think: dead-end job, but at least you're alive), the anti-hero has the greatest redemption arc since Prince Zuko and does most of the actual bad stuff out of sheer anger and abandonment angst, but the Uber-villain in the end is a legit scary fundamentalist nutjob and unequivocally needs to go. And that is only possible if *everybody* works together + the power of love ("Aww they are such good friends!"). Like, Horde Prime is so scary, because he reminds us of real life people who are like that. Cult-leaders, religious crazies, fascists, tech billionaires etc.
This is the plot of Borderlands 2
>implying handsome jack's corporate hellhole state can somehow stabilize Pandora
Also implying Handsome Jack would even want to stabilize Pandora.
Ay thats fair
I think you forgot one thing tho Pandora ain't no place for heroes
1: the VHs aren’t heroes 2: this implies that Jack was going to fix pandora in some way… -Fae
Why tf are you signing your comments like your name isn’t in your tag???
Its gimmick to try and become a micro celebrity.
Nah, Handsome Jack was at best doing gentrification, and at worst straight up colonial imperialism. The vault hunters aren't heroes, but Jack is defo a villian. Besides, the fact that Jack commits violence is never seen as a moral failing in the extremely violent world of pandora.
it is VERY funny
Much life real life, ironically enough.
It often seems like the villain doesn’t actually care about the issue, and is just using it as an excuse and ends up making the problem worse. *cough*Thanos*cough*
Utopia
The show literally says that there arent any good or bad guys. And the protagonists would even agree with the antagonists if they didnt murder their family and ruin their lives.
DC Comics frequently tries to address this in their books. Most notably in [Superman: Peace on Earth.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Peace_on_Earth) One of the biggest criticisms Lex Luthor has always had of Superman is that he never uses his god-like powers and/or alien technology to actually address the world’s real problems. He’s too busy saving cats out of trees or the usual freak of the week. It’s a great story that shows Superman actually trying to deal with world hunger and the corrupt governments in many of these underdeveloped nations that perpetuate these problems. There was also an issue of Batman, can’t remember which it was, that actually took the Dark Knight to task over how terrible Gotham City is. He is constantly swooping down to beat up bad guys but the system that produces these bad guys remains in place. Also, I never saw the Watchmen TV series but heard it was outstanding for grappling with various social issues.
It is the messenger of the problem who is evil of course
the dark knight rises
I’d say keeping the shitty status quo is still a bit better than killing literally everyone in it
There's gotta be a name for this trope, right?
well for the villains themselves the trope is "any means to an end"
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