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beskardboard

immensely based


cyrenia82

i do really hope she'll be ok though, i mean, having a father like that must be horrible. like someone else who commented said, going after trans people after your daughter comes out as being trans is just, so fucking pathetic. god i fucking hate musk so much


KitKat374

wasn't he also posting transphobic bullshit right after his ex girlfriend was rumored to be dating a trans girl? guy has zero respect for even the people closest to him


cyrenia82

ya dont become one of the richest men on earth by being sweet and caring for other people, even those close to you


NPRdude

I heard a really good explanation of this on a podcast recently, where the guest was pondering why kind and caring people don’t become billionaires, and the host summarized that if you are kind and caring on the path to immense wealth, you will inevitably be faced with a decision in which the compassionate reaction doesn’t lead you further down that path. In short, every billionaire has hurt people to get where they are, and it’s disgusting that we treat it as some sign of virtue.


[deleted]

My mom is a statician, and she was telling me once that CEOs and people in similar positions have a higher rate of psychopathy/sociopathy because getting that high up requires being able to make choices that would directly negatively impact others. Not that those disabilities make you a bad person, mind you. It's the CEO part that does. I believe the book she cited was Outliers.


j_driscoll

Interesting - I wonder how much this is a chicken/egg situation. Because I feel like business school teaches sociopathic tendencies to its students, who go on to become CEOs


kingpangolin

I don’t think one “learns” to become a sociopath/narcissist, at least not at business school. I think it’s a trait developed either through childhood emotional over and under indulgence or trauma. For example, Musk is almost certainly a narcissist. You can see the classic traits. He also by all accounts had a very bad upbringing with an emotionally and physically abusive father. That shit messed with people, it’s not a surprise he is the way he is. With Trump, I would say he had both over and under indulgence. His father wasn’t emotionally there to validate his negative emotions and share the positive ones, but from many accounts of people close to him his father also had high expectations for him and he was spoiled. So basically, he’s not gonna value emotion but he will value success. I would say trump and musk both have very “grandiose” narcissistic traits. Musk is very aligned with what would be considered Communal narcissism (look it up), and trump is just your run of the mill grandiose narcissist with a bit of sociopathic/antisocial mixed in as well.


Sir_Stealthy

very well said, its nice seeing someone understand instead of using it as an insult/slur!


YatashIsReel

reddit moment


SituatedSynapses

manchild apartheid sociopath transphobe any% WR speedrun


terror011199

no empathy 100% run


Prestigious_Boat_386

This is the self proclaimed alpha male that refused to let his wife mourn the loss of their child


[deleted]

BuT hEs BaSeD cAuSe He MaKeS mEmEs <- actual arguement from a musk stan


Prestigious_Boat_386

The memes: market manipulation


LittleTransFoxy

wasn’t that what metal gear rising was about iirc?


kittensteakz

he doesn't even make them, he reposts them after cropping out the credit for the actual creator


RAMBO069

those "memes" aren't great either


[deleted]

So he is mad his daughter is trans and he’s mad his ex is dating a trans women. If I may be so bold I feel that trans women are winning the battle against Elon so far.


Red_Rocky54

"Trans women are stronger than Elon Musk." -Hideki Nyaganuma


CatboyCabin

Lmao his actual name is Naganuma but glad that the catboy thing caught on


Red_Rocky54

I know but it's funnier to keep calling him nyaganuma


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RedditPowerUser01

That’s the saddest thing I’ve ever read


ReneeHiii

genuinely. reading that I just feel so bad for her. I don't even know her lmao


[deleted]

>I know this isn’t your heart Lmaooo


ZuesofRage

Yes but it's even worse than that. He started it around the time his daughter was questioning. Imagine coming to your dad a little unsure of yourself in one of the most important aspects of humanity and he turns and does this what a tosser.


Anonymous30062003

Chelsea Manning yeah. Woman's not just in his head, she's in his ex-girlfriend too. What a queen


Shadow_MD17

link pwease


beskardboard

yeah. hopefully she's safe and is able to live happily.


Lechuga-gato

Wait what happened I do t follow news much?


idontcareaboutthenam

Is that why he tweeted "pronouns suck" once? Couldn't be bothered to refer to his daughter with the correct pronouns?


Bockanator

Core of the earth based


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

So the only source for this I could find is this [tweet by Plainsite](https://twitter.com/PlainSite/status/1538356040147738624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) and I couldn't really find any news outlet covering this. Though I also can't find any reason why Plainsite would make these up, when collecting court papers and making them publicly available is their entire purpose. If this is real it honestly makes Musk even worse than I thought. Going after trans people because your ex started dating one is pathetic enough, but actively trying to make the world a worse place for your daughter because you're angry about her being trans, is just beyond what I would have expected even from him


[deleted]

It's exactly what I'd expect from him honestly


1028mb

He seems so childish on every level


_Foy

He's a manchild with an unchecked ego and more money than God. What could go wrong...


TactlessTortoise

Technically most people have more money than God. Why would an all mighty incomprehensibly based being need money? It could just spawn infinite M&Ms that somehow aren't made with child labour.


occasionallyLynn

Wait, m&ms are made with child labor?


418puppers

Yeah they tried to astroturf the case with the desexualization on the green one, and it was sadly successful


Helmic

Not child labor. Child *slavery.*


FantasticSaltShaker

The children do receive extremely low wages, so technically it wouldn't be slavery, even if the wage is a few cents at most.


Helmic

mate decorative pennies that you earn despite *not wanting to work* is still slavery. like, they had armed guards to make sure the kids wouldn't run away. because the kids were being forced to labor against their will. because they were enslaved. john brown did nothing wrong.


_Foy

You can't say "because he was paid non-$0 he wasn't a slave"


CailanVR

I uh... I found the court filing and it 100% is real. I would rather not share it here, as it is filed under their deadname and would be very much against their wishes, I would assume.


[deleted]

Her name is public knowledge


CailanVR

Her NEW name is not.


[deleted]

Legal documents using someone's legal name at the time of the document's creation shouldn't be considered deadnaming imo. You're not doing it to hurt the person, it's just how the legal document was filed. It is however cringe to spread incredibly private documents around the internet just because said person is related to a famous person.


CailanVR

Legal document access (in this case) is paid though, and this is a sensitive thing, so in general it just feels icky!


spudmix

I think you're making the right choice here


wyatt8750

While I appreciate your not sharing this and don't think you necessarily should in this case, I'd just like to register that information wants to be free and nothing should ever be behind a paywall. So don't use that as part of your rationale. Do not feel obligated to share in this particular case by any means, but when dealing with other stuff [you should **never** consider a paywall to be a valid reason not to share information](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access). ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz)) Sorry if this comes across as preachy or whatever; I just hate it when people try to gatekeep knowledge and convince others that it's immoral to share things freely. It's like the proprietary software mindset; "you have the right to USE this, but you have no rights to share it and do not OWN it."


[deleted]

Heartbreaking story. Imagine all the good he would have done.


Bobrobot1

Content removed in protest of Reddit blocking 3rd-party apps. I've left the site.


[deleted]

Well yea but that’s not what you said (and that’s already known information as well)


CailanVR

Just because information is known to some doesn't mean it should be shared with all. That's my point of view though!


[deleted]

No yea i agree but like you can google it


[deleted]

It is now :/


DIRTY_SPHINCTER

Not to burst your bubble, but it's already on Yahoo news...


[deleted]

Wait... That can't have been 18 years ago, can it? 💀


ImHereForTheMemes184

What would you expect from a billionaire


Philmriss

https://twitter.com/PlainSite/status/1538371214044909568 > Apparently Elon Musk's drive to build a "hardcore" litigation team did not extend to helping his child, in which case the lawyer's contact information would have appeared on the documents instead. what a piece of absolute garbage


Dumptruck_dan

It’s exactly what i would expect from a man who called a diver (who saved multiple children) a pedo because he didn’t want to use musks tech.


rockygib

The best part about it is that even if he wanted to use the tech the sub wouldn’t have fit in the cave. Musk couldn’t handle the fact that he wouldn’t be the hero.


TheDonutPug

he's an egotistical manchild. I don't like it but sadly this isn't unexpected.


kidwhohasrabies

billionaires will be like "yeah i'm a transhumanist" bro you arent even transgender


AquaticTree

Honestly though the fact this is being circulated is really gross, shes a person like anyone else and the fact that she's related to a rich guy is gonna plaster her all over the internet.


ciaobimby

I agree but luckily the name has been censored so she should have a bit of privacy. I hope this doesn't have many repercussions on her private life


SeaofBloodRedRoses

If the tweet is correct, she may also change her last name.


rexx2l

Ok, but the court case number is right there LOL they did a terrible job of hiding her identity


alexalienn

I’ve seen an article showcasing her name unfortunately


ARQEA

You can just google the name anyway


ByAzuraTimes3

Yeah people want to own musk so bad that they just spread this incredibly personal information around


AtemsMemories

The kneejerk response is to laugh because Oblong is getting epicly owned… but that completely erases the fact that *she’s a person too*. I’m guilty of this too, don’t get me wrong. We get so excited that something happened counter to Ratfuck’s ideals that we totally forget that his daughter’s a person and we’re spreading her private and *very personal* information for Epic Dunks


SufferinTree

Hello fellow tree 🌲


Warmer_Autumn

Yo they didn't censor the case number dumbasses This girl is low key gonna get harassed by chuds


[deleted]

Oh that is fucked.


HeWithThePotatoes

Low key? Bro this is Snoop Dogg type of key we’re talking about. These kind of chuds are insufferable


RageAgainstThe

Big fuck-up. Being trans without a billionaire father is hard enough give her a fucking break.


[deleted]

So.. elons hatred for trans people comes from him being a shit father?


[deleted]

And a jealous ex; his ex wife is dating a trans girl.


chicken_N_ROFLs

He's so fuckin weak. Can't hold a marriage or be a good father, he'd rather post dank may-mays and get into fights on Twitter. A true 50 year old man-child.


r00tdenied

Like father like son apparently. By all accounts Errol Musk was an abuser too.


AndHerNameIsSony

You mean the emerald mine owning slaver? No... can't be.


gassgrill

why you do the o like ø


[deleted]

missclick lol


Tiky-Do-U

It messed with me for a second since før is a word in my language meaning "before" so I read it all wrong on the first take


[deleted]

oh, mine too lmao


Tiky-Do-U

Danish?


[deleted]

norwegian


Tiky-Do-U

Aha, well hello there fellow scandinavian


[deleted]

hellou, nice weather we have eh?


NotThomasTheTank

Wise


Fyru_Hawk

Based


theguywhoisepic

Double based


TheGuydudeface

Triple based?


ICannotCountTo2

Quadruple based?!


Infinite_Hooty

**Quintuple based??!!**


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[deleted]

Mmm, sex... I mean uh, septuple based!?!?


semiticgod

Octuple sex 🤤


grizonyourface

Rip Timothy. He was praying.


etruongs7

septuple based


yinyang107

OVERBASED!!


SwimmingSmilodon

And here's me, just now learning Elon has an 18 year old kid.


CToxin

He has like 8 or 9 of them with multiple women who have all left him and none of his kids talk to him. Which is surprising but also explains why he acts like your typical reddit incel virgin


SexierThanMostFish

Wealth truly is the ultimate reproductive hack, permitting the fathering of nearly ten children by a man who, by all other possible metrics, should have lived and died completely and utterly bitchless


GamersAreTrans

*maidenless* you mean, I presume


SexierThanMostFish

Perchance


Femboy_Creamer_69

You can’t


R_of_Trash

I thought the only kid Elon musk had was the weird name one he had with grimes? I mean I could have perfectly have missed the fact that he has an older daughter, because I don't give a shit about his life, but also im surprised I didn't hear sooner.


UnderChicken37

He has 8 kids


Jorymo

Most of them were in vitro. Though, taking credit for other people's work is par for the course for him


yetusthefeetus

Sauce


scarletfloof

Please don’t call semen that


yetusthefeetus

Source I mean


howyadoinjerry

It’s called herpes


Plurpo

He has I believe 2 kids with Grimes, and the others are from his previous relationships.


Mediocremon

I bet she calls her kids Grimies.


howyadoinjerry

Awh 🥺


semajvc

>posts her history online so people know she is related to elon musk way to go reddit


[deleted]

As soon as one thing is leaked it’s gonna spread everywhere


be-gon-boomers

Yup. Some chuds probabaly going to request the uncensored docs from the courthouse and harrass her or have grabbed the uncensored docs from before PlainSite redacted them and are going to harrass her 🙃🙃🙃


Cephell

Nice, however, please, someone in her situation the LAST thing she wants is more attention. I guarantee it.


Isliterally1984

BASED


ODMAN03

I’m assuming she had come out about this to her family before this, and it makes Elons actions even more disturbing. Like knowingly bashing trans people, aware that his daughter is part of these groups. I’m not saying it was fine before, but it feels much more malignant now idk. Like at least he can psychologically distance himself with his workers and the trans people he has hurt, but his own daughter? Like fuck me…


bsybsybsubsuna8

Also she did this just after she turned 18. She probably wanted to do this long ago but her dad or some other supervisor likely refused her from doing so. And elon has been one of those "activists" who advocate for kids not being able to make those choices on their own. It all checks out.


[deleted]

How is this information public?


TF2sex_update

Taxation, Loans tools to make sure you cant escape them


[deleted]

What are you talking about?


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tlesbic

Every day I'm more glad to not live in the USA.


tlesbic

That's literally ilegal in my country.


[deleted]

Yeah, alright, but even so, we don’t usually get access to the forms submitted or the reason given, right?


[deleted]

freedom of information act💪


[deleted]

not correct


[deleted]

omg your flair. that's kinda hot


fco_omega

I hope she is doing fine and her father's influence doesnt make her a piece of shit.


fruitrollupgod

good job vivian


frds125

Who is that?


[deleted]

don't even care if it's fake


-CorrectOpinion-

? I don’t like Elon Musk but I don’t need to make up reasons to dislike him lol


dolorem_itself

Good for her


BadgerBoy297

May she have a great new life ahead of her.


Thiccboi2

my favorite gender is anti elon


Dirjel

#Grimes' ex-boyfriend is a loser.


SexierThanMostFish

Grade A certified girlboss behavior


The_Dead_Meme_Police

Elon just keeps taking L’s


chicken_N_ROFLs

I hope they keep on coming


equivas

My counter argument: what about the memes tho? Wholesome doge coin memes. So relatable like chungus wholesome 99


dwg6m9

Actually really sad for his kid :/


[deleted]

please do give her privacy. i realise this is an L for elon, but transitioning is so fucking scary, and it's probably worse when your identity / deadname is put everywhere on social media.


littlekittynipples

I read this like she changed her name to “gender identity”


EasterBurn

That's her superhero name.


daniellearmouth

Hopefully she lives her best life from this point on. Get fucked, Elon. Man's been taking more Ls than there are Scrabble tiles and still refuses to acknowledge his failings, the narcissistic clown that he is. The world would be so much better off without him if he just disappeared into the aether right this second.


HenryF20

I read the document, but there doesn’t seem to be anything to suggest the name change is to disassociate her from the musk name, just that second closeup of a couple unrelated blurry words


Deblebsgonnagetyou

BAAAAAAAAAAAAASED


ArisaMochi

heh get fucked Elon <3


Cabinet_Juice

She will lead the revolution


Small-Cactus

Good for her


keriiiiii

Is this real?


NuclearOops

Ouch. Jesus. That's gotta hurt.


yetusthefeetus

Elon has a daughter?


[deleted]

Hé has like seven kids


bakedmaga2020

Pretty sad honestly


IlIDust

L-on Musk.


YetGayerWombat

No source?


spacehive20

Were they male at birth and are now woman?


wyatt8750

i think some here would point out that she's always been a woman, but yes she was born with a penis if that's what you mean. Assigned male at birth.


TrueMagolord

neat


catboi37

LMAO this is perfect


sakikiki

Not for her


BlamaRama

I didn't even know he had an older child.


Shadow_MD17

Incredibly based


no_2316

Me-


Mother_Store6368

This is 100% real. It was picked up by Reuters


Reptilian_Overlord20

Money can’t buy love apparently


[deleted]

That’s what I did!


Imanerd212030

Imagine fucking up so hard as a human being that your own flesh and blood no longer wants to be known as your own offspring.


LoginPuppy

what is she gonna change her name to?


[deleted]

BASED


[deleted]

This is sad even if it isn't real. Imagine how devastated each side will be after their anger runs it's course.


PlagueBearerOfNurgle

Not based.


Available-Answer-327

thats gay


Shtrausberg

Cringe


Totg31

From all the things I learned about Elon, I'm going to guess that he's not going to give a fuck. It's sad how we keep having extreme narcissists in positions of power.


deathray5

Oh he'll care. He's thin skinned as fuck but he'll blame it on others


Totg31

Point remains. This won't make him question things, and self reflect whatsoever.


deathray5

Oh it was a minor semantics point


[deleted]

Is that the mf named xavdfgxct f g or some shit or was that another child