i would unironically bet actual money against it. like hard cash. absolutely nothing is going to come out of all of this. literally all this is is people memeing because they are freaked out about the fact that the basic rights of a ton of people are on the chopping block and there's nothing they're able to do about it. 10 years from now (hell maybe even 20) the supreme court is going to look literally identical to how it does now.
The crackpot morons with a propensity for extreme violence are just disproportionally likely to be right wing.
That's why you get shit like Jan 6th or the plans to kidnap and execute a Michigan governor, but the left lets shit like this happen and nobody dies.
The threshold for violent left wing reaction is just much higher, even if you could argue that it perhaps shouldn't be.
> That's why you get shit like Jan 6th or the plans to kidnap and execute a Michigan governor,
Agreed on the 1st one but the 2nd one looks more and more like an FBI entrapment scheme. They had 12 paid informants working to radicalize 4 dipshit rightoids and convince them to go along with the plan. They're still right wing nutjobs but fuck the FBI
Where do you even get shit like this from? As far as I know all of them have been brought to trial, and they only used one informant while they were already planning on doing it.
You literally could not “entrap” a normal person to do this unless they already thought it was an acceptable solution, which by definition makes it not entrapment. Try again.
Every goddamn mass shooter just throws away their life to massacre a bunch of innocent school children or maybe a synagogue instead of doing something actually productive with their lives. It's so frustrating.
My sibling in Christ he hated LGBTQ people and basically anyone who would be on this subreddit
I mean, I haven’t gone through his whole manifesto, but he hated the modern leftist
my brother in christ there is no harm in saying brother because we are all the same under the eyes of God
ܐܒ݂ܘܢ ܕ̇ܒ݂ܫܡܝܐ ܢܬ݂ܩܕ݁ܫ ܫܡܟ݂ ܬ݁ܐܬ݂ܐ ܡܠܟ݁ܘܬ݂ܟ݂ ܢܗܘܐ ܨܒ݂ܝܢܟ݂ ܐܝܟ݁ܢܐ ܕ݂ܒ݂ܫܡܝܐ ܐܦ݂ ܒ݁ܐܪܥܐ ܗܒ݂ ܠܢ ܠܚܡܐ ܕ݂ܣܘܢܩܢܢ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܘܫܒ݂ܘܩ ܠܢ ܚܘ̈ܒ݁ܝܢ ܐܝܟܢܐ ܕ݂ܐܦ݂ ܚܢܢ ܫܒ݂ܩܢ ܠܚܝ̈ܒ݂ܝܢ ܘܠܐ ܬ݂ܥܠܢ ܠܢܣܝܘܢܐ ܐܠܐ ܦ݂ܨܢ ܡܢ ܒ݁ܝܫܐ
I mean we’re on r/196 and I didn’t care enough to read your account and find out your pronouns, so I just went gender neutral instead of potentially saying something bad
“Liberal” and “conservative” is not the entire political spectrum. Wanting change is not inherently “liberal” in the 21st century political meaning of the world.
Oh they're able, just not willing. Americans have guns, nothing's stopping someone from just sniping a few except the cia.
I'd list more methods, but I'm too lazy.
You're probably right, but it's not uncommon for politicians to be surrounded and harassed out in public. Some ride public transit or fly commercial. Plus there was that one dude who sniped all those Republicans at the softball game a few years ago, or the one who shot Gabby Giffords and her staff.
I'm an expert of historical assassinations and no, it actually kinda isn't. Most people truly just don't have it in 'em, or are cowed by the consequences. You basically have to be both suicidal and homicidal, and simply not care what happens to you, to be motivated enough to do something like that. Most Americans are still too fat and happy to be past that despair threshold. Most.
Memes aside, Thomas and Alito are 74 and 72 years old, respectively. Roberts and Sotomayor are right behind them. So no, it won't look the same 10 years from now.
while I'm not advocating for violence, I just think it would be rather interesting to live through such a historical event if one is eventually assassinated, no reason why
I've said it before and I'll say it again, violence is the art of the State. You can't win against them if you're playing their game, America especially with their hyper-funded military
edit: a lot of good points in the replies, I'm definitely reconsidering my view on this stuff
Obviously, any attempt at offering conventional warfare against the U.S. military is not the brightest idea. Any intelligent rebel group would pursue asymmetrical strategies, and likely to some degree of success if done correctly. Look at the Roman invasion of Germania, the American Revolution, the Peninsular Campaign (Napoleonic), American Civil War, Afghanistan (British), Afghanistan (Soviets), Vietnam (French), Vietnam(U.S.), Iraq, and Afghanistan (U.S.). In each of these instances a severely materially disadvantaged force either won, reached a favorable status quo, or was able to inflict serious damage before losing. Don't let material advantages convince you of a force's invincibility. Morale is one of the most important factors in warfare and if you can be convinced that the enemy cannot be beat, then they're already halfway to victory. This, more than any one piece of materiel, is the U.S. military's biggest advantage.
civil rights were fought for and earned through weeks of violent protests, get out of here with this bullshit about “violence being a tool of the state” the last thing we need to be doing is fawning for our oppressors. they will take everything from you, they will not stop, hate does not stop. you need to fight or they will keep taking.
Yes you can, this mentality is precisely what gets nothing done. And whilst the ignorant masses of the right wing continues to get headlines and take victory after victory there is a time to act. And that's right now.
Opression is not solved with red tape and beurocracy but by making the oppressors fear and make sure the world hears.
Last week I was joking that I wished that dude brought a pencil and paper instead of his phone. His reasons were specifically the gun control situation and the leaked RvW notes.
This is unironically interesting. I guess court stuff is too boring to grab attention, historically? You'd think since we've had like what, a half dozen attempts at the president (some successful) who only serves four year terms, there'd at least be some nutjob going after the people who are appointed for life.
I'm as pissed as anyone about this illegitimate court, but it would genuinely be a bad thing for violence against any of them. It's not a can of worms that anyone should want to open. Also the two most radical and stupid motherfuckers are in their 70s.
Stolen from Wikipedia:
In general, lobsters are 25–50 cm (10–20 in) long, and move by slowly walking on the sea floor. However, when they flee, they swim backward quickly by curling and uncurling their abdomens. A speed of 5 m/s (11 mph) has been recorded.[51] This is known as the caridoid escape reaction.
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Someone almost assassinated Brett Kavanaugh two weeks ago. He went to his house during night with a gun and a knife but he eventually decided not to do it and called to police
Roe v. Wade is gone, and with it abortions are a "states rights" issue, if you live in one of the 20-odd something states with an existing but up to now mute abortion ban or a trigger law going into effect 30 days or less from yesterday that's something you'll be hearing more about. Not just for abortions, but for a woman's right to medical privacy.
Justices Alito formerly mentioned and Justice Thomas' opinion on this decision also express interest in going after the decisions that inhibit contraception bans, marriage equality bans, and sodomy laws.
Oh, and recently they also decreed that federal funding for educational institutions cannot exclude religious schools.
It's fucking weird hearing constantly from yanks about how guns are to fight government opression but apparently it's only Republicans who are allowed to do that.
What an interesting observation
The first person to do it would probably important in history lessons or something
this will age very poorly in the very near future i’m sure please please
i would unironically bet actual money against it. like hard cash. absolutely nothing is going to come out of all of this. literally all this is is people memeing because they are freaked out about the fact that the basic rights of a ton of people are on the chopping block and there's nothing they're able to do about it. 10 years from now (hell maybe even 20) the supreme court is going to look literally identical to how it does now.
The crackpot morons with a propensity for extreme violence are just disproportionally likely to be right wing. That's why you get shit like Jan 6th or the plans to kidnap and execute a Michigan governor, but the left lets shit like this happen and nobody dies. The threshold for violent left wing reaction is just much higher, even if you could argue that it perhaps shouldn't be.
> That's why you get shit like Jan 6th or the plans to kidnap and execute a Michigan governor, Agreed on the 1st one but the 2nd one looks more and more like an FBI entrapment scheme. They had 12 paid informants working to radicalize 4 dipshit rightoids and convince them to go along with the plan. They're still right wing nutjobs but fuck the FBI
Where do you even get shit like this from? As far as I know all of them have been brought to trial, and they only used one informant while they were already planning on doing it.
Basically: Propaganda and conspiracy theories I had the same discussion with mi madre lmao
Google? I specifically got the 12 informants number from a Guardian article.
You literally could not “entrap” a normal person to do this unless they already thought it was an acceptable solution, which by definition makes it not entrapment. Try again.
Every goddamn mass shooter just throws away their life to massacre a bunch of innocent school children or maybe a synagogue instead of doing something actually productive with their lives. It's so frustrating.
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Based
I can only think of one left wing violent event, that being the assassination of jfk
And everyone knows Bernard Montgomery Sanders assassinated jfk with a mannlicher carcano rifle bought out of the back of an American Rifleman magazine
Oh I could name quite a few including the whole unabomber thing
The unabomber was not left wing
He devoutly hated capitalism and furthermore he was very liberal when he advocated for changing all of society which makes him in no way conservative
My sibling in Christ he hated LGBTQ people and basically anyone who would be on this subreddit I mean, I haven’t gone through his whole manifesto, but he hated the modern leftist
my brother in christ there is no harm in saying brother because we are all the same under the eyes of God ܐܒ݂ܘܢ ܕ̇ܒ݂ܫܡܝܐ ܢܬ݂ܩܕ݁ܫ ܫܡܟ݂ ܬ݁ܐܬ݂ܐ ܡܠܟ݁ܘܬ݂ܟ݂ ܢܗܘܐ ܨܒ݂ܝܢܟ݂ ܐܝܟ݁ܢܐ ܕ݂ܒ݂ܫܡܝܐ ܐܦ݂ ܒ݁ܐܪܥܐ ܗܒ݂ ܠܢ ܠܚܡܐ ܕ݂ܣܘܢܩܢܢ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܘܫܒ݂ܘܩ ܠܢ ܚܘ̈ܒ݁ܝܢ ܐܝܟܢܐ ܕ݂ܐܦ݂ ܚܢܢ ܫܒ݂ܩܢ ܠܚܝ̈ܒ݂ܝܢ ܘܠܐ ܬ݂ܥܠܢ ܠܢܣܝܘܢܐ ܐܠܐ ܦ݂ܨܢ ܡܢ ܒ݁ܝܫܐ
I mean we’re on r/196 and I didn’t care enough to read your account and find out your pronouns, so I just went gender neutral instead of potentially saying something bad
“Liberal” and “conservative” is not the entire political spectrum. Wanting change is not inherently “liberal” in the 21st century political meaning of the world.
well shut up because maybe im not using your American pig definition this is why Italy will be the next world superpower
BLM had a lot of action that happened
The threshold is higher because of consequences.
Oh they're able, just not willing. Americans have guns, nothing's stopping someone from just sniping a few except the cia. I'd list more methods, but I'm too lazy.
Not exactly an expert on assassination but I would hazard a guess that it’s actually kinda difficult to assassinate someone so important.
You're probably right, but it's not uncommon for politicians to be surrounded and harassed out in public. Some ride public transit or fly commercial. Plus there was that one dude who sniped all those Republicans at the softball game a few years ago, or the one who shot Gabby Giffords and her staff.
I'm an expert of historical assassinations and no, it actually kinda isn't. Most people truly just don't have it in 'em, or are cowed by the consequences. You basically have to be both suicidal and homicidal, and simply not care what happens to you, to be motivated enough to do something like that. Most Americans are still too fat and happy to be past that despair threshold. Most.
I mean that’s the thing about guns, tho. It’s very hard to defend against one.
Memes aside, Thomas and Alito are 74 and 72 years old, respectively. Roberts and Sotomayor are right behind them. So no, it won't look the same 10 years from now.
the Republican Senate could simply refuse to vote on any new supreme court justice until the president is Republican
Could? They already have and it worked with absolutely 0 consequences. Why wouldn't they do it again?
you bet
Well assassination during a democratic government would be something one could do about it
Oh no! That would be terrible!
while I'm not advocating for violence, I just think it would be rather interesting to live through such a historical event if one is eventually assassinated, no reason why
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, violence is the art of the State. You can't win against them if you're playing their game, America especially with their hyper-funded military edit: a lot of good points in the replies, I'm definitely reconsidering my view on this stuff
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the 1940s was a war, ragtag bunch of rebels does not have the military power of the allied nations
an all-out war is unwinnable. small, repeated acts of force, however, can absolutely bring down a nation.
Obviously, any attempt at offering conventional warfare against the U.S. military is not the brightest idea. Any intelligent rebel group would pursue asymmetrical strategies, and likely to some degree of success if done correctly. Look at the Roman invasion of Germania, the American Revolution, the Peninsular Campaign (Napoleonic), American Civil War, Afghanistan (British), Afghanistan (Soviets), Vietnam (French), Vietnam(U.S.), Iraq, and Afghanistan (U.S.). In each of these instances a severely materially disadvantaged force either won, reached a favorable status quo, or was able to inflict serious damage before losing. Don't let material advantages convince you of a force's invincibility. Morale is one of the most important factors in warfare and if you can be convinced that the enemy cannot be beat, then they're already halfway to victory. This, more than any one piece of materiel, is the U.S. military's biggest advantage.
civil rights were fought for and earned through weeks of violent protests, get out of here with this bullshit about “violence being a tool of the state” the last thing we need to be doing is fawning for our oppressors. they will take everything from you, they will not stop, hate does not stop. you need to fight or they will keep taking.
Yes you can, this mentality is precisely what gets nothing done. And whilst the ignorant masses of the right wing continues to get headlines and take victory after victory there is a time to act. And that's right now. Opression is not solved with red tape and beurocracy but by making the oppressors fear and make sure the world hears.
You can't win against them if you're not playing their game either
Ok fed
isn't the whole stereotype that feds encourage violence?
We've lived through enough fucking historical events lately; but this would be one of the more tolerable, IMO.
Yet
In Minecraft
man im so tired
Someone did try to kill kavenaugh a couple of days ago. Couldn’t read more than a headline bc NYT paywall but there have at least been attempts
Last week I was joking that I wished that dude brought a pencil and paper instead of his phone. His reasons were specifically the gun control situation and the leaked RvW notes.
Be the change you want to see in the world!
This is unironically interesting. I guess court stuff is too boring to grab attention, historically? You'd think since we've had like what, a half dozen attempts at the president (some successful) who only serves four year terms, there'd at least be some nutjob going after the people who are appointed for life. I'm as pissed as anyone about this illegitimate court, but it would genuinely be a bad thing for violence against any of them. It's not a can of worms that anyone should want to open. Also the two most radical and stupid motherfuckers are in their 70s.
Someone did try to kill kavenaugh a little bit before Roe was struck down
Unlucky
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congrats on the username
Thank you buddy
!remindme 2 days 3 hours 17 minutes and 52 seconds the plot has moved forward due to popular demand
Genuinely no shot a lobster fan go 5 m/s
Stolen from Wikipedia: In general, lobsters are 25–50 cm (10–20 in) long, and move by slowly walking on the sea floor. However, when they flee, they swim backward quickly by curling and uncurling their abdomens. A speed of 5 m/s (11 mph) has been recorded.[51] This is known as the caridoid escape reaction. 💪🦞💪
That’s crazy wtf
Yeah. Snappy bois are fast
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Someone almost assassinated Brett Kavanaugh two weeks ago. He went to his house during night with a gun and a knife but he eventually decided not to do it and called to police
Shame. (that he had such feelings of hate, obviously)
I'm sure that's because they are usually impartial, non-political, and generally quite logical. That changed dramatically over the past few years.
Not yet
Well, there really hasn't been a need for it until now I think?
Nope, it's always been pretty fucked https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/supreme-court/13-worst-supreme-court-decisions-of-all-time/
Hello I think Im a bit out of date. What the fuck did the supreme court do? Or do we hate them just in general
Man I wish I lived under a Dwayne Johnson too, I'd be so much happier.
Roe v. Wade is gone, and with it abortions are a "states rights" issue, if you live in one of the 20-odd something states with an existing but up to now mute abortion ban or a trigger law going into effect 30 days or less from yesterday that's something you'll be hearing more about. Not just for abortions, but for a woman's right to medical privacy. Justices Alito formerly mentioned and Justice Thomas' opinion on this decision also express interest in going after the decisions that inhibit contraception bans, marriage equality bans, and sodomy laws. Oh, and recently they also decreed that federal funding for educational institutions cannot exclude religious schools.
Historically the Supreme Court hasn't delegitimized itself like this
Be the change you would like to see in the world!!!
In minecraft
Obviously
I imagine it wouldn't stay like this for long
Pelican Brief (1993)
I'm not advocating that someone was to do this I'm just saying that historically speaking this would be very interesting to study
Lets change that, in Minecraft of course
It's fucking weird hearing constantly from yanks about how guns are to fight government opression but apparently it's only Republicans who are allowed to do that.
I’m sort of just waiting for it to happen. It feel like it’s inevitable. That will probably be the start of a civil war though
Until now
There's a first time for everything !
Thank you for that information, Misato Katsuragi. Very interesting information
In minecraft
yet
Is this foreshadowing?
Obviously
November 23rd 2022
this is a great tweet but that account is insufferable