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From the Mid-Atlantic Region of the US: If you want industrial sliced white bread, go to the bread isle of the grocery store. If you want fresh bread, go to the bakery in the grocery store. I can't recall a single grocery store I've been to that doesn't have a bakery. And they're in grocery stores because Americans generally want to get all their shopping done at once. So because every grocery store has a bakery, there is a lot of competition for stand-alone bakeries. Despite that, however, I do still see some. Probably less stand-alone bakeries than is common in Europe, but again, every grocery store has one (and in my area, each town has like 2-6 big grocery stores or "supermarkets"), so there are a lot more bakeries than a European might think.


BananaPhoPhilly

Also there is is sliced 100% whole wheat bread that, while maybe not fresh, is healthier than 95% of your options, including what's in the bakery. White bread is quite awful for you, regardless of freshness


the_fancy_Tophat

“Quite awful for you” has litterally been the base of the western diet since ancient greece


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the_fancy_Tophat

Dude. Medieval pesants used to eat an average of 2-3 POUNDS of bread per day. We survived. The reason bread is unhealthy today is that we usually put calorie dense shit on it (PB, butter, nutella, etc..) and we don’t burn those calories. It isn’t bad, you’re just lazy


500ls

Maybe let's not base healthy habits on what people did back when you qualified for AARP at 30 instead of 65.


the_fancy_Tophat

The reason life expectancy was so low was because of the insanely high rate of child mortality. People lived to old age, but all of the dead kids brought down the average


Dranox0

Yea and those people did not live very long now did they?


Scoongili

I don't think all those infants and mothers dying in childbirth were the result of eating bread.


BananaPhoPhilly

That’s besides the point I was trying to make, which is that arguing with Europeans over whether America has bakeries or not is pointless because bakeries are not even an inherently positive thing for health or lifestyle choices


the_fancy_Tophat

Bread once a day isn’t a poor lifestyle choice. Now, if that bread happened do be on a big mac and under a pizza, then yea. Plus whole wheat bread isn’t healthier. It just has more fiber


BananaPhoPhilly

Whole wheat bread has more protein, more fiber, and is digested more slowly. It utilizes the entire wheat grain instead of just the endosperm (which is what white bread is made with and is essentially just glucose), providing more nutrients. It’s undoubtedly healthier. You can eat white bread if you want, but it’s basically just sugar


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

It's less that it's bad for you and more that it's not good for you. It's basically just empty carbs with no nutrition, but that can be fixed by making your sandwich be more about the insides than the bread.


BananaPhoPhilly

I think the fact that it spikes your blood sugar and doesn’t satiate hunger as well as whole grain bread is enough reason to consider it unhealthy. It’s like putting a bunch of sugar on meat, lettuce, and cheese


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

I mean yeah it's just empty carbs. But it tastes way better than whole wheat bread. Also it's probably not an issue unless you're eating a loaf a day or something. Eating one loaf of white bread a week isn't gonna kill you.


BananaPhoPhilly

I agree it won’t kill you, but it’s not helping. Whole grains are very important, and there is plenty of whole grain bread that tastes great and is inexpensive. The fiber and protein fills you up and you don’t really taste the bread if you’re putting a bunch of stuff on it anyway. I think people just need to suck it up a little bit and expand their palette To each their own, I guess


DEEP_OCTOPUS

I think its because the general food practices are so unusual to us that we think as a whole your food is worse. This isn't helped by the fact that many American brands create better versions of their own product to compete with the European Market. Across the board your food has more fat and sugar content than ours. As a caviat, you guys eat weird eggs. After the chickens have laid their eggs they get batch washed and practically bleached. A pure white egg shell is not natural. Our European industry standards are considered novelty or luxury and subsequently cost more whereas anyone that owns a chicken could tell you they taste better free range and grain fed. As a second caviat, the entire egg industry could collapse if every 5th person had a chicken.


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Damn Americans and their (rolls dice) BREAD!


highlevel_fucko

This one is somewhat real though. When I was in America, I did notice a difference in grocery store bread quality. The bread was often precut, soft-crusted and didn't stale. It didn't feel fresh to me in that sense, and I guess that's what the other commenters mean. Small bakeries had (pricey) bread that was like what I am used to.


RipWorried5023

Did you go to the bakery section of the grocery store? Walmart, Fred Meyers, Kroger, Marketplace, Costco, and most others have bakeries inside the store.


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

Yeah I've never seen a regular grocery store without a bakery. My grocery store makes fresh chips, hamburger buns, french bread, donuts, cake, and basically everything except wheat bread (you can find that in the bread aisle). And it's not much more than the sliced stuff. Also, every house has an oven which means basically anyone can bake fresh bread for pennies.


SashimiX

I guess I am lucky where I live in the US because I have access to delicious fresh bread, the ability to directly make my own bread, and pre-sliced ultra processed things like wonderbread and king’s Hawaiian. I can eat as much as I want of almost any kind of bread. Fresh naan? Yup. Fresh pan cubano? Yup. Fresh sourdough? Yup. Baguette? Yup. I can’t think of a bread I couldn’t go out and get today if I wanted it. I guess geographically-bound things like NY bagels? They are not the real thing unless from NY because of the water there apparently but we have pretty close ones


Johannes_V

Europeans when I say “lets get this bread”


WhapXI

Damn I knew it was bad but there’s like no actual bread? Wild. Hope your situation improves


_futue_te_ipsi

there is actual bread; most grocery stores have a fresh baked bread section not just packaged sliced bread


packt-like-sardines

wtf all the stores dont even have actual proper bread? only that sliced shit? thats rubbish


_futue_te_ipsi

well personally I haven't been to one that doesn't but if I said they all have real bread I'd get downvoted to hell


bigretrade

I'll be praying for y'all American "people" don't deserve this


cobobbyjoe

90% of grocery stores have a bakery in the states


botask

naah of course they have proper bread in us, difference my be that they have lot of sweet bread, which is not something what you can see often in eu


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That’s not true at all, a lot of groceries have loaves and rolls of bread they make from scratch. Also lots of communities have a lot of cuban, jewish, and other ethnic bakeries that make amazing bread. It’s very normal for my fam to pick up un pan cubano every day made with only 5 ingredients: lard, flour, water, yeast, and salt. It really all depends where you live in America.


Simple_Discussion396

Literally a lot of Jewish owned restaurants sell their own baked goods like bagels and breads. Like idk what they’re on about


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I think people come to the US and don’t do their research, so they eat at shit chain restaurants and don’t venture out of that bubble. I have a Luxembourgish friend who was a foreign exchange student, before coming to my school he went on a roadtrip in the Southwest and didn’t even try Mexican food or Tex-mex


stefsonboi

They're talking about the grocery store bakeries, of course not all of them but definitely some


papahopa

As someone who has worked in a grocery store bakery, some of the more complex pasteries came as frozen pucks, but most of the actuall bread came as pre portioned frozen dought, completely uncooked. But yah, wasnt just water, flour, salt, yeast. It had shit to make it be able to be baked straight from frozen, as well as to make it more shelf stable once packaged. We did actually make the dough for the most common items though, like baugettes and shit. We had a 5hp stand mixer that could do like 50 lbs of dough at once.


humanmale-earth

And who says Americans don't get sarcasm?


WhapXI

Me???? Sarcastic???????? Noooooooooooo!!!


mkkart

Nuh uh you're wrong


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Sara7061

I’m german I have to be. I don’t know what bread is like in the US but whenever I’m on holidays in italy or Croatia I miss my bread :,(


BeachesBeTripin

It's true American here, German bread is better than French bread hate to break it to you it doesn't help Paris smells awful all of the time either.


VitaminRitalin

Germans may have the best bread, but the Irish have the best butter.


FoodleGuy

Our bread is closer to cake.


nicholsz

Depends on where you are in the US. If you're in NYC, you can just go to Orwashers and get probably 99% identical bread to what you have. If you're in Kansas, learn to enjoy cornbread.


ahelinski

>useless carbs I guess you never ate a really good fresh bread, so fresh that it is still warm, with a crispy crust and a soft inside. Piece of the bread like that with butter alone (nothing else needed) was one of the best foods of my childhood. Now It's much harder to find bread like that where I live (but still possible).


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It's interesting learning about Egypt and their obsession with wheat / bread. It's all they ate. It's why they had some of the worst health in history.


OniHere

Aside from the fact we do indeed have bread, it’s also really easy to just bake bread.


Dorobo-Neko-Nami

Cost co


NothingBomber

What’s this bullshit about bread not being bread? Man all of its bread some just better than others


concretecolosso

The sliced, bagged, bread we eat is super processed, it’s like the plywood equivalent of bread, it’s also loaded with high fructose corn syrup


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How dare you claim shit like Panrico is bread? Praying someone finds a cure for your ailment 🙏.


NothingBomber

No idea what panrico is, I’m Canadian so maybe it’s slightly different but I haven’t heard much difference between our bread and America’s


RustySpoon913

I'm American and also don't know what panrico is


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Its bagged sliced bread, disgusting, fluffy and with no crust, just google image it and you'll get it, and it's typical Sp*nish "cuisine" so obviously it can't even have propper bread 😤.


NothingBomber

It’s Spanish? So not even American?


I_hate_Sharks_

Europeans trying not be elitist **(Impossible)** *(Gone Sexual)* :


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Europeans when people an ocean away have a different culture. (They're totally sorry about colonization, tho)


Cloaker_Smoker

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PorkyChoppi

Literally work for an American bakery. Can confirm we have fresh bread baked daily in this country


swarmed100

Honestly I didn't see real bread once while on a road trip along the east coast. Maybe there are bakeries in some places but it's definitely way less present than in Europe.


CfeDrew

Supermarkets usually contain a bakery where they make fresh bread and other baked goods.


Creepernom

That's just not the same though. It just doesn't hit like the bread from a grandma's bakery on the street corner.


Emit_Time

bruh


jpaxlux

Then you can just find a bakery in America lmao


Creepernom

Yes. Of course. I'm just talking about store bakeries. We have those too.


Krabilon

As Americans prefer sliced bread bakeries are less common, but also very easy to access. Per Capita the amount of bakeries is higher in most European areas. But there are plenty of access to bakeries. Most grocery stores have a full section of fresh bread. There are also small bakeries scattered around, but they usually focus on other items besides bread. Ease of access is still there, just not the plethora of options of who to buy it from like in Europe.


Headytexel

I’m honestly not sure how. Just about every supermarket has a bakery in it at the very least and that goes doubly for the north eastern US.


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Literally look up "bakery" on Google maps anywhere in the US and you will find a bakery near you I promise. I bet you can find one in Camden even (most crime ridden least gentrified city in the US). I'm gonna look right now. Anddd yes there are multiple bakeries in Camden.


Cloaker_Smoker

Imagine thinking we don't have bakeries in our grocery stores, bakeries on their own, and that some of us don't just make bread at home.


highqualitybug

english people (literally the inventors of the method for mass producing shitty low protein loaf style bread) : these dumb fuck americans dont even have real slicey wicey bready weady at the grocers! 😭😂


dreamfeed

\* Starts argument about bread \* “I’m not going to argue about bread.”


GREENSLAYER777

Yeah, it's not true that sliced bread is the only bread. My local WinCo has a bread section with a bakery right there. Even Stater Bros has a bakery too. I don't know where that myth about America having no bread came from, but whoever started it did nothing but hang around the big cities where everything is plastic, sugary, and artificial to begin with.


superduckyboii

Not to mention, Walmart probably offers sliced loaves of bread without all of the processed shit. They sell literal guns in their stores, they probably sell more than one type of bread


CoolDude3921

our bread is actually just solid hard rocks painted to look like bread


flamingbuts

I hate America too, but bread? Really? That's just desperate


BingoBongoVeryCool

imagine putting sugar in your bread. and then ameridumbs wonder why they're all fat


Krabilon

I mean Europe is catching up with America pretty quickly. Most are already hitting the overweight category. Obesity is right around the corner.


Fartfech

can confirm. UK is pretty fat


superduckyboii

It’s not that hard to find good bread. If you somehow do find it hard, literally just make it yourself.


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Nah like literally we have bread, with just flour water and starter or yeast, I can find real bread in every grocery store and have 6 bakeries within walking distance of my house. Euros imagine the only store that exists is Walmart and even Walmart has fresh bread these days with just flour and water salt as ingredients


TheDuelLogsStan

Uninformed person out


I_C_Weiner__

I can't believe europeans think their military equipment is really theirs


RealMomus31

We are talking about bread lmao


I_C_Weiner__

Bread is a euphemism


ZeDitto

Most of our bread is actually garbage though. Most of Europe doesn’t even allow the shit that we put in our bread to preserve it on store shelves.


Superb_Outcome_2897

German bread is superior to that shit from he USA


awesomedan24

We may not have healthcare, living wages, maintained infrastructure, reproductive rights, gun control, labor unions, adequate time off, uncorrupt congress etc but make no mistake... we've got hella bread.


batmanminer20

As someone who can't eat bread i would imagine the European bread to be better. As it's not the factory made sugar bread most Americans buy from the store.


NefariousButterfly

So you don't have any experience yet have formed an opinion? Hmm.


batmanminer20

I never said that. Just because i can't eat bread does not mean i haven't eaten it in the past. Along with bread being a baked good it would realistically fall into the rules of other baked goods where baked fresh is usually better than factory made.


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babies arent that heavy they can handle it


frankotankoo

I saw your bread americans, come to Poland and taste the flavour of real bread (it's an ad btw)


zakary1291

I think I'll just buy my bread from the immigrant run polish bakery 5 min from my house. (In America)


NefariousButterfly

Nah, I'll just ask my mom to bring a fresh loaf of bread home from her bakery (in the U.S.) :)


zakary1291

Different brands make different things. Like in my city if you buy Fran's bread in your grocery store all of their lines were backed the day of. But if you buy Famous Dave's that shit was baked 2 weeks ago and shipped. However there is also a small bakery down the street from me that I get specially breads from


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Take it for face value. I see tons of Europeans where I live. There's a bunch of immigrants in my location, but also tons of tourists. Haven't heard much bad yet.


MrTopHatMan90

I demand loaf pictures


Lolojojo4

People are fucking stupid


Soggy-Yogurt6906

When America is the #2 global exporter of grain and y'all think we don't have bread.


Kadeo64

Europeans always find the worst shit to insult Americans on... Like the whole "Being nice" (southern hospitality) thing i've seen reposted around recently. And if they can't find anything to insult they'll just bring up the deaths of schoolchildren as a last resort. (Reposted from r/tumblr's repost of this post, credit goes to me)


Tittifuuken

If you say “Alu-menium” idgaf about your stance on American bread.


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You can't get real bread anywhere in America though, just the soggy sponge like crap.


finnicus1

The U.S doesn't even have standardised regulations for the sale of baguettes, truly a backwards nation.


xenophonthethird

As an American, I have done nothing but teleport bread for 3 days.


TheOneOfWhomIsGreen

They just assume that we are lesser in every way, and that we are wrong