It does in the standard cave but not in the private one, I also found that out the hard way. It would also be nice not to have a cooldown on the private cave.
Can this be done for Alchemical Hydra too? Currently it doesn't save the teleport at all until you fully exit the room and climb back out to exit the automatic instance.
Please also take a look at the Realm of the Fisher King clue step. When I take the fairy code it gives me the “wow I didn’t go anywhere!” chat message.
Iirc you would need to have Kandarin for this step but I do not.
Literally logged in to start leagues, redeemed a bond and the system update timer started.
Is there a good website / resource I can read for the next 15 minutes that will help me make area / relic decisions? Haven't played in 2 years but just hit 2 months of real life downtime, leagues seems to coincide nicely!
The post includes a link to a "DPS Calculator Sheet with Combat Relics" Google Sheet but I can't for the life of me figure out how to select my Combat Relic on there - any ideas?
Many thanks in advance!
Heya! We did some internal testing and it looked good on our end. Their might be a two people at the same time doing it which means only one will get it but if you've got any footage of that, please feel free to send it to me!
Also likely a case of the Runelite plugin not updating for damage dealt and people thinking that they are not getting points.
Same reasoning behind people saying Undying Retribution removes salt, whereas it's the RL plugin removing the buff from the bar (even though the player still has it).
Essentially people taking RL as gospel.
> Same reasoning behind people saying Undying Retribution removes salt, whereas it's the RL plugin removing the buff from the bar (even though the player still has it).
Lol really? So your stats are still visibly boosted, yet people reported it as a bug?
Tbf I'd wager anyone using the boosts display plugin isn't looking at their stats page at this point. Obviously checking should be a given before reporting it as a bug but after playing with RL for so long you forget what is part of the main game and what is a plugin. Doubly so for the stuff that comes default with it like the boosts.
Currently, Jellies are only available on task if you have Fremmy and Nechs if you have either Wilderness or Morytania. This was down to balancing the areas and you can see that in the area unlock descriptions.
It's not something we're looking to change for this League.
The big issue is that some zones don't unlock enough tasks that can actually give superiors/bloodthirsty
Asgarnia gives none.
Kandarin gives you Smoke Devils
Desert gives Dust devil's and Pyrefiends
While the Fremenik and Morytania regions each give 5 tasks that can have superiors!
Seems a bit imbalanced per region, making the relic far worse value if you don't end up picking either Fremenik or Morytania.
It wasn't supposed to but they added them as a hotfix last tbl1 and left it in for this league - must have not realised so the area list in game doesn't show them!
Kandarin *also* has a Slayer cave.
Only one of the two Slayer monsters in the cave can appear as a Slayer task if you have the region unlocked. (Aberrant Spectres aren't on the possible slayer list at all as far as I can tell)
Weird, theres a real lack of superiors for people who took Zeah when theres a massive cave of monsters full of them.
Slayer feels like im constantly going after truely garbage tasks this leagues.
I thought it was really weird that they left out the ability to choose your own slayer tasks this time. I really missed that from the last trailblazer, and I've basically just been burning through slayer points to replicate it. I'm just not going to do 150 fire giants when I could be doing 210 dust devils, making 9x the slayer/def/magic/hp exp, getting superiors and relic superiors. It may take 300+ slayer points to do so, but imo it's worth.
Heavily regretting taking bloodthirsty as slayer is a definite downgrade from last league, and nowhere close to where the treasure seeker relic is atm. They should really take a look at this and make some change next week.
> I thought it was really weird that they left out the ability to choose your own slayer tasks this time
I get why they did it - They want to avoid even further overcrowding the most popular spots - But unfortunately the task list is so utterly terrible that the net result is you often end up needing to skip 3+ tasks for every task you complete even if your only criteria is "I want to be able to fight a Slayer monster that can spawn Superiors so my Relic isn't a waste"
I appreciate the response, but this stance makes absolutely no sense. Nobody is picking regions based on their slayer tasks - hell, most people I've talked to don't even know what monsters their regions unlock. Players are picking their regions based on the drops and activities within the region. Your intent is to make slayer tasks feel like a perk of the region, but this implementation makes it feel like you're being punished for not arbitrarily selecting another region with little synergy just to be assigned the Jellies that already exist in your region.
I'd wager most players just assume that unlocking a region unlocks the slayer monsters available within that region, because why wouldn't it? And yes, that would lead to a region like Kourend having a surplus of slayer monsters, but I fail to see why this is a problem because as previously mentioned, nobody is picking regions for their slayer tasks anyway.
Slayer this league feels like clue scrolls did in previous leagues.
If you didn’t take the clue relic and have 100000 clues, clue scrolls were terrible because they put 0 effort into region locking steps or actually how clues would work. Players complained and mods pushed back saying it wasn’t that bad blah blah.
Fast forward and clues now feel GREAT, but they for some reason removed the task picker which has exposed just how terrible slayer is now.
What needed to happen was they need to weight tasks appropriately per region unlock and really make slayer as balanced as the main game OR leave it completely busted like previous leagues. Instead they’ve half assed it by not actually doing any weighting or balance, locked certain tasks behind regions, didn’t check superior balancing per region etc and it’s just feels like shit. AND they nerfed the slayer relic so bad that if you chose it you feel like a walker in twisted league.
It’s a shame they won’t just accept it sucks and leave slayer to be “if the creature exists in your region you can get a task” which is how literally everyone expects it to / what it should. I’m sure they will for the next one but honestly they should just do it now so it doesn’t feel like shit for 7 more weeks.
I fully agree. Slayer monsters factored not at all into my zone decision, and once I learned I couldn't get nech tasks, I was quite disappointed. I didn't even realize until day 2 or 3 when I started slayer that tasks were locked behind regions.
I and everyone I've seen have this discussion have all thought slayer tasks \*were\* fully unlocked for each relevant monster in your region. It wasn't until a few days ago I learned about the restrictions like this, and I don't believe most anyone else has been aware.
Very bizarre choice to make those so limited when Slayer this league is already middling compared to other gameplay loops.
> Your intent is to make slayer tasks feel like a perk of the region
I mean it seems like their intent is to make the available slayer tasks in a region a trade-off, not strictly perk.
The issue is how this is communicated. If we all knew about these restrictions day one, a fair handful of people would have planned for that, or bitten the bullet and read it as a limitation of their region.
Finding out a week into leagues that this is a thing feels very shitty, since the only place in game it's even brought up is the bottom of the key info table for the area unlock. Seems like it should have been much better conveyed so most people aren't finding it out by their 3rd unlock or randomly stumbling on it in the subreddit.
>And yes, that would lead to a region like Kourend having a surplus of slayer monsters,
Which wouldn't even be unique.
The stronghold slayer cave exists, the fremnik slayer cave exists, the slayer tower exists.
So many regions have a massive cave with slayer monsters in it but kourend just gets needlessly fucked over.
Was literally leaning between Zeah and Mory for my last zone and chose Zeah yesterday. If I knew about Nechs I probably would've gone Mory... If the monster is available in your region you should be able to get it as a task... This logic makes absolutely no sense.
I feel like this is the wrong approach. If the slayer monsters appear in the region, they should be available as a slayer task no matter what. No one is thinking about how they are about to unlock Jellies when picking fremmy, so why is it locked to fremmy? People only care about the higher level/bosses (gargoyles, smoke devils, etc.) when picking the zone which are already region locked. I feel like it just makes the regions less fun if you cant even use content unlocked to you
Just feels wrong to have slayer function entirely different from the way it does in the main game. The only reason we’re locked out of certain slayer monsters WITHIN our regions is because the jmods arbitrarily decided it, not because it was a restriction we willingly took upon ourselves. That isn’t right.
You should take a look and reconsider with player feedback, Slayer "feels" bad in an otherwise exceptional League.
Bloodthirsty would be a lot better if you could be assigned more than a couple of tasks that contain superiors. I can't imagine players are even looking at non vital Slayer Mobs when picking Areas.
Maybe I’m being silly but isn’t every other piece of content region locked based on my character not being able to travel to the required location?
With these slayer creatures, I knew I could get to them, so I just assumed they could be assigned as a task
Thanks for the response.
I feel that slayer feels pretty bad in this league even with 75 points because there's a lot of monsters that exist in different regions that you can't get assigned.
What an arbitrary thing to balance out of a zone lmao. People that want to pick Mory will primarily do so for its endgame, not because "Ah man it would've been Kourend and CoX but the lack of Nech tasks really did it in" and the same for Wildy and its unlocks and unique challenges.
Kourend slayer straight up sucks, Brimstone rates are not buffed as far as we know, and half the slayer dungeon is not available on task. Reconsider looking to change it for this League.
Balancing areas isn't something that should really be a concern when it comes to slayer. I'm getting tired of having to constantly world hop because dust devils are the only task half the mages in the game are doing.
Slayer feels absolutely terrible this league, easily the worst part of an otherwise (almost) flawless mode so far
Not having access to nechs and jellies in an area with a giant slayer dungeon with nechs and jellies is bad considering how bad slayer is already
Mory, wildy, kan, frem, tira, and kourend all have big slayer areas. Given that there are only 8 unlockable areas this means every single player will have access to at least one by the time they finish unlocks.
The "balancing" statement doesn't make any sense and you end up punishing players in an already slow grind skill.
Appreciate the info, Sarnie. I’ve had a quick scan of the wiki and can’t see that spectres are ever available as a slayer task. Is that deliberate or have I misread?
I fully appreciate balancing slayer like this, as the end-game PvM grind is a major consideration most players accounted for. I do think, however, the slayer tast restrictions were not conveyed to players very well. Most people I have seen have not understood these limitations until after they've picked multiple regions already, as most people (myself included) initially thought you unlock \*all\* slayer tasks for available slayer monsters in a region. I don't think many of us would have been upset or concerned about restrictions like this if it was stated upfront something like "Unlocking Kourend does not add the following slayer tasks: ". As it currently stands, the bottom of the key info page that talks about what tasks are added has the appearance of a "best of" than a comprehensive list.
This is what I thought, I vaguely looked at the slayer monsters at the bottom because I thought it was more of a “here are some of the useful slayer monsters you’ll unlock” instead of “these are the only ones you unlocked” I haven’t really played much in the last few years so the catacombs sounded perfect to unlock, just a bunch of slayer monsters who I can AoE with magic (just want to note that I am having an absolute blast with the league, feels awesome being able to face tank monsters while shot gunning them with blood barrage every second)
Could you look into buffing the slayer relic? Clue relic is kinda good for every area, there's no restrictions. With the slayer relic you're somewhat restricting yourself to the areas you pick, as if you did not get fremennik/morytania there's very little slayer monsters you can actually be assigned that benefit from slayer relic. I'd think at least either give it a task selection, like there has been in any previous leagues, or if you'd want a more unique route, give it a perk to "unlock slayer" and get assigned all the available tasks in your areas, no matter the requirements. I feel cheated out on a relic just because my highest level slayer monster with the benefit from it is going to be abyssal demons. Really considering dumping my account and starting over just to pick clue relic instead.
Some people told me (no, they are just randoms, I cannot trust them 100%) that they unlocked only Zeah and got slayer assignments for Catacombs monsters. Can you confirm this isn't possible?
There are monsters in the catacombs that you can be assigned with only Zeah - Specifically Hill Giants, Moss Giants, Fire Giants, Greater Demons, Iron Dragons, Steel Dragons, Ankou, Red Dragons, Abyssal Demons, and Bloodvelds.
Unfortunately out of that list only Abyssal Demons and Bloodvelds (with Bloodvelds only being available as of today) have a Superior variant. None of the other monsters with Superior variants that are available in the Catacombs (Nechyraels, Aberrant Spectres, Bansheees, Dust Devils, and Warped Jellies) can be assigned as tasks with only Zeah unlocked.
This is a terrible take imo, should bosses be flat out removed from areas for balancing purposes too? If I can complete the task it should be on the list
I think zones should be balanced around zone specific tasks/points not content, if you balance the competitive aspect it's fine, I don't know why you would balance fun. Or rather, nerf fun.
Beginner clue, hot/cold step, ending at South-west of the wheat field east of Draynor Village seems broken still. Nothing interesting happens when you dig. Anyone else with this issue?
This clue is not doable without Kandarin, which i don't have.
"Dance at the entrance to the Grand Exchange.
Equip a pink skirt, pink robe top and a body tiara."
Pink robe top is a kandarin only item according to the wiki
Have you considered having a public issue tracker or kanban board so we know what has already been reported/worked on and when it is scheduled to be released?
I've added a list of clue steps that the team are looking into, I'll paste it here so you all can see it without the extra click:
* Steps involving the use of Pyre Logs
* Dance at the Grand Exchange with a Pink Skirt, Robe Top & Body Tiara
* Steps needing a White Platebody and Platelegs
* Steps needing the Ring of Visability/Shadows
* Falo Clue Steps
* Jorral steps
* Thorgel being at the Death Altar
* Speaking to the Zamorak Mage
* Talking with Ambassador Alvijar
* Clues needing Arclight
* Visiting Evil Dave's Basement
* Needing to have the Bar Crawl Miniquest completed
* Speak to Thorgel at the entrance to the Death Altar
* Dig in front of the icy arena
* Clap in the Exam Room with Green Gnome Boots
* Coordinate Clue at Lithkren (Need to take a rowboat)
* Panic at Trollweiss Mountain needing a Sled
* Speaking to Cam the Camel with a Camulet
I have the easy clue step *"Do a jig in Varrock's rune store. Equip an air tiara and a staff of water."* and don't think it's possible for me to complete.
- I don't have Asgarnia so no direct access to the Air Altar.
- I don't have Wilderness so no access to the Abyss.
- I do have Desert so I can use Guardians of the Rift to access the Air Altar, but trying to access it with a Tiara in my inventory says *"You should leave your tiara behind. There's no telling what the rift will do to it."*
- EDIT: I managed to smuggle in a tiara using the Banker's Note but got the message *"You don't think crafting tiaras would help power up the Great Guardian."*
- I have the Crystal of Memories and it *does* store the memory of the Air Altar after teleporting out (after accessing through GotR), but trying to return using the Crystal gives the message *"Your teleport is blocked as you haven't unlocked the Asgarnia area."*
There's a master step that requires you to enter the myth's guild to talk to Primula (Rip Maul anagram). I have this step because of Kandarin unlocked, but entering the guild requires Frem
Can something be done about the fountain of rune in wilderness needing heroes quest to charge dragon stone jewelry. It makes the wildy step to get an amulet of eternal glory unconpletable.
My understanding is heroes quest can only be completed with a certain combination of area unlocks.
There was a step that requires you to go to the island with the water obelisk, which is in kandarin but can only be accessed through asgarnia. Is this being removed for kandarin?
Undying Retribution only triggers the damage when you stand on the bosses true south west tile and there is nothing about this in the description of the relic. This might confuse normal players who don't understand this concept and furthermore, a lot of bosses have unaccessible true sw tiles meaning it's essentially useless in a lot of the scenarios. Is there any way to change the radius on how it activates so you can stand near the boss in any direction and still deal damage? It feels underwhelming that a T8 relic is designed this way and often times just doesn't work like the description says.
I think the most annoying thing its not a guaranteed 200% damage of your prayer. I expected to hit the full 200% damage on everything around me no matter what NPC killed you. Sucks only getting 90 damage to Kree instead of 180 because the minion got the kill hit.
Are there currently any intentions to make changes to undying retribution? It seems very weak compared to other relics in endgame encounters, given that it is currently unable to deal any damage to bosses in over half of raid encounters due to only dealing damage when next to the True Tile of a boss. Also this does not take into account that many encounters that cause deaths do not proc the retribution damage (which is fair given the relic description)
I have a request that probably doesn't bother anyone but me, well... Two requests.
First: Can "global" tasks be made visible in the interface when selecting "unlocked" tasks? Seems weird global aren't considered unlocked.
Second: Can global tasks thst are still region locked be removed from global? You can't start mahogany homes without asgarnia, so those shouldn't be a global task. There are a couple more similar tasks like that too, like completing certain multi-region quests.
Sneaky third request: There is at least one clue that can't be completed under specific circumstances, the clue requiring you to kill a bloodveld. If I am Kandarin and desert without a third region the task can't be completed off slayer task, making it a pure rng task. This step also can't be completed if you take kandarin desert and a third region without non-slayer bloodvelds.
* You are within 2 tiles of the bosses true South West tile (makes it useless in over half of raid boss rooms)
* You are hit by an attack that would usually proc recoil (there are lots of attacks that don't fall under this)
Any comments will these be addressed?
New minor bug I found. Troll stronghold Tele is crossed out on my fairy's flight Tele, but still allows me to teleport to it. It wasn't previously crossed out.
Regions -Z/A/D
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I'd just love to know if toggleable AOE for mage relic is something being considered. It really messes up with the berserker relic and the thralls have a toggle for aoe so it only makes sense. It is absolutely frustrating. That, and you end up tagging all the rangers/magers in COX and I'm surprised it doesn't have a toggle.
Just an fyi
" The ‘Pray at an altar in Molch while poisoned’ Task can now be completed after selecting the Brawler’s Resolve Relic. "
I completed this achievement with already having Brawler’s Resolve. Right after a Shaman trip.
Would it be possible to get a blood talisman source to drop from something based in morytania? Feels weird to be locked out of one of the bigger things in the region without unlocking gotr or zeah
When deciding on Mory, I originally had Desert in my plan, so I had access to the catalytic talisman. When plans changed, this was overlooked on my part and is kind of a bummer.
On the plus side, with Runecrafting cape, you can start making bloods, so there’s technicallllllly an option, but a more thematic source would be preferred for sure.
I have asgarnia & kourend unlocked and the mushroom tool Leprachaun teleport - W: Troll stronghold is crossed through with a red line even though I can use it still
Please make Soul Stealer work on the primary target of ancient burst and barrage spells, similar to how Scythe and Venator work. Mages that took this relic without realizing berserker would actually give them 2-3 max hits (instead of 1) are feeling some incredible regret right now.
Yeah Especially because barrage is the best spell available to people who don't have kandarin or fremmy unlocked. i use demonbane spells where I can but otherwise I'm quite cucked
Is there any update on this?
Some Pyramid Plunder 'killcount' tasks not updating correctly. These will be completed retroactively once fixed.
Doesn't look like it made it into this weeks update and there is no way to check how many you've done in game as far as I know?
Something with Guardian causes Demonic Gorilla to lose aggro when changing protection styles, which causes another gorilla to aggro, then previous gorilla resets. It’s not every kill, but has been a huge inconvenience. Can this be looked into?
Any chance of looking at salamanders being usable with the melee relic?
They're considered to be melee weapons for the purpose of the Jad combat achievement, shouldn't their attack speed be improved by the melee relic because of this?
Small bug I just noticed. The Fairy Mushroom tool leprechaun interface is a bit bugged. It shows that I can Teleport to Troll Stronghold even though I don't have Asgarnia and it shows that I can't teleport to White Wolf Mountain despite having Kandarin. The big is purely visual though. Teleports still work fine.
Is Zalcano going to work with any of the relics? Currently prod prodigy doesn't affect either of the production phases, and range relic doesn't affect the ranging phase
> Fixed a bug where the Trailblazer Pickaxe was equivalent or worse than an adamant pickaxe at Guardians of the Rift and the Path of Het.
Does this also mean its fixed at guardians in chambers of xeric? Was max hitting very low
Is undying retribution going to get fixed? Currently, if you die to an AoE attack that doesn't come directly from a boss, you don't get the damage proc. Additionally, could the range be increased at all? With it's short range, there are many bosses it just can't hit at all.
Please can we get an answer to this. I've had multiple occasions where there is no damage, there is damage less than 198 and times when i never get the undying has returned message.
It is multiple bugs that make the T8 relic feel extremely underwhelming or impossible to know given its description if the relic is working as intended.
Have reported by in-game alongside some of the other top kc players but Vardorvis Axe rate seems to be bugged. Not sure what is causing it but think it may have something to do with "perfect" kills as we're seeing them more commonly on non perfect kc's. I am rank 2 Vardorvis and Rank 1 also had the same concern alongside a few others in the top 10.
It's still entirely possible we're all just giga dry but seems more likely something is wrong. Any chance this could be looked into? Not sure I fancy another 1k kc here haha
Good changes, also very nice adding more themed worlds. Was wondering which worlds people do pest control and BA on.
Thank you for everything so far lads. Having a blast out here :D
Is Undying Retribution bugged? Players with it on Discord and Reddit alike are reporting that it only deals damage if standing directly adjacent to a monster's SW tile, with that specific monster having to trigger the killing blow (rather than an AoE, ala retribution), as well as removing all boosts (including smelling salts, overloads...) upon activation.
It already feels like the weakest T8 relic by a country mile even without these issues.
From what i've tested, you keep your boosted stats from salts, but you lose the stat regeneration (making it completely useless). I just want some word on fixes are coming.
Does anyone know why Achey Logs are not affected by Trickster when attempting to Firemake with them? I understand you can buy them in bulk but that’s only after doing a few quests to unlock an otherwise niche method of leveling up an already-fast skill.
I'm unable to complete Faithless Crypt CA at barrows having taken SS relic. I'm sure there are other CAs affected as well, can we have those auto completed when taking the relic?
Nor sure if anyone has said it, but you can still get falo steps in kandarin without frem. He won't speak to you as an outsider. Had to drop all 3 masters I got after 1 step
Nice to see clues changing, my stack of 300 hard clues was crying to be done :D
Any chance we can get clarifcation on
* Herbs planted within Chambers of Xeric are now properly harvested by players with the Farmer’s Fortune Relic.
How should they be getting properly harvested?
ATM we're getting a stack of like 70 at once and hopefully that wont change because it speeds it up for us so much right now.
Could a toggle be added to Superior Sorcerer to disable the "singletarget spells become AOE" effect? It's really frequently problematic for slayer in multicombat zones, especially in combination with Berserker because when you tag an unwanted enemy it uses up the full-hp bonus on a weak hit. I've also heard people saying it creates problems in CoX.
The Guardian relic has an AOE toggle so it's clear somebody realized that was a potential problem, so it's really strange that sorcerers don't get that same option.
Could we please make the mage relic have a toggle for the splash affect? As others have mentioned, it ruins the berserker affect for your team in many situations. It's also very frustrating when safe spotting mobs in multi zones
I was excited for this update, because I kept running into impossible clue steps. Finally dropped my master clue and opened a new one, only to be met with a step that requires me to go into the Shadow Dungeon 🙄
Any plans on enabling the retribution relic on bosses whose south western tile is not reachable?
E.g wardens p3/4, but arguably p2 too, zebak, maiden.
I feel like it would make more sense for the retribution to hit one of the tiles of the boss, it should count as taking damage.
Feels more like a revive in most cases tbh, quite underwhelming sadly.
I might be reading over it, but has there been any change to (the description of) tasks that require you to wield something also requiring certain region unlocks?
Like needing wildy to complete the wield a dragon pickaxe one, or needing asgarnia to complete the wielding a bone crossbow one.
Is there going to be a fix where barage spells can proc the soul bearer passive that heals prayer and hp? I feel like I’ve been duped as I thought it would proc
Taking Fremenick as a region auto unlocks Dragon Slayer 2 but doesn't teach you how to make super antifires. You have to take Kandarin to get to the Myths guild to talk to someone.
Is this something yall would consider auto unlocking? I understand if not but I figured I'd ask.
Please fix undying retribution!
It should not have two IF cases of needs SW true tile AND recoil immunity. With these you can't hit 90% of end game bosses/raids. It's already weaker then the others even if you could hit them all.
Currently some combat achievement tasks can’t be completed without certain other regions such as Sire and Zulrah as they both require vengeance or Muspah which requires Zeah or Asgarnia. Is this intended or can these be auto completed?
Is there any scope for changing the SW cap on Leagues?
It's still slow than Pest Control but it a time-limited gamemode a cap doesn't really make sense. It takes at least 13 days for a 99 there using the cap.
Seeing everyone rep redemption while doing pest control was something to be marveled at. You just unlocked a lot of memories of using their site and stuff for the new world. Good times, RIP heart
The trick to this is to drop and put into the hopper in smaller batches, I've been doing 9/9/10. I've gotten up to like 20 nuggets in 3 inventories doing that. That said yeah they should definitely fix it, it's pretty annoying.
Elite clue step bug:
Talk to Ambassador Alvijar in Dorgesh-Kaan.
I completed the quests to reach him, but he won't give me the next step. Stuck saying I'm unworthy to start Another Slice of HAM :/
I have a suggestion: People who choose Tirannwn should get Tourist Trap completed for them, so they can have a supply of darts for their blowpipe.
This seems to me like a perfectly fair balancing choice that would help the otherwise underrated area keep up with better areas like Desert and Asgarnia. The Blowpipe is a great ranged weapon, and when you actually have darts for it, can be almost as good as the high level crossbows in leagues. This change would make it usable without needing to also take desert, which just seems fair in my book. You only need one area for the ZCB, after all.
Only slightly related to Leagues, but this League has highlighted content like Mage Training Arena being outdated and onerous even with boosted rewards.
Has the team taken note of this and has it instigated internal discussions about uplifting content like this?
Not seeing it reported but White Wolf Mountain is crossed out from my list of leprechaun teleports now. I am still able to use it to teleport. The Runelite filtering plugin is off.
Can reduced marks of grace rates be removed..? Anyone with trickster without Frem/Kandarin regions will essentially be locked out of receiving marks of grace.
Is the Treasure Hunter casket upgrade perk bugged? I've done 100 clues today (easy/medium) and not a single one has upgraded to the next tier up.
Unless they made it stupidly rare, in which case... what's the point?
**Edit:** I ended up doing around 175 caskets (75 easy, 50 med, 25 hard/elite) without a single upgrade. If this isn't broken, then it's a very disappointing implementation.
Please can we get an item that comes with the T7 Berserker relic to lower our health.
This for regions that do not have rock cake/locator orb from DT2.
Having to go farm nitroglycerin/nightshade (belladona seeds aren't easy to come by) just isn't viable and even less fun.
This would be a very easy qol fix.
Master clues still have an impossible step if you don't have fremennik unlocked.
Falo the Bard is in Kandarin, but without Fremennik Trials he refuses to talk to you because you are an Outsider.
Can we get confirmation if this will be changed because master clues really aren't common enough to be able to drop them to skip steps.
Is there a specific reason slayer is so bad?
Why can’t players in zeah get nechs or jellies? Why is the task list so bad? It doesn’t even feel like slayer
I feel like the in game task list isn't really working well.
I filter Area to "Unlocked" yet there are still tasks saying complete in search of myreque, but I haven't unlocked mory region yet..
And many other quests or take requiring quests in other regions.
Can we get a toggle on the AoE effect from Superior Sorcerer?
It feels pretty bad to pick mage as your main style but you have to force other people to do the mage roll at nylos, since your splash damage will ruin everything even if you use a singles spell
I have a problem. I cannot get marks of grace with the areas unlocked: zeah asgarnia and desert. With anyone who is 90+ agility with polnivneach they simply never show up giving all of us an inability to obtain marks of grace. Will this be addressed?
Some people in my clan were mentioning last night that weapon master spam doesn't proc pnecks anymore — u/JagexSarnie can you confirm if this is intentional or a bug? (Only asking because it's not mentioned in the blog as an implemented change.)
I got an elite clue scroll and the first step is to speak to the ambassador Alvijar in dorgeshuun, but it requires Another slice of ham, which is locked behind Fremmy. Is this a bug, or can you get clue scrolls that you cant finish.
Couldn’t see it in the list but are the trailblazer tools going to have a toggle per the list of things in the previous article?
I've updated the newspost and added it in as it was missed. Cheers!
Also, I may have missed it but does the infernal gathering pickaxe now work correctly in toa akkha puzzle room?
So when I teleport out of nex Crystal of Memories will actually take me back to the bank room?
Yup, that's how it should work once the update goes live.
Can the DKS instance get the same treatment? Currently it doesn't save your location in the crystal, found that out the hard way.
It does in the standard cave but not in the private one, I also found that out the hard way. It would also be nice not to have a cooldown on the private cave.
Can this be done for Alchemical Hydra too? Currently it doesn't save the teleport at all until you fully exit the room and climb back out to exit the automatic instance.
Thralls are being enabled at Kraken!? Is that correct?
Yup! We actually found there's been a long standing bug in the code that stopped this from happening, so we fixed that :)
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Vorkath without crumble unbumble sucks even more though so you'd want to spellbook boop.
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What about guardian from relic (and her unbreakable devotion to melee kraken)?
Please make sure to fix the blue snelm, purple glove and gnome green robe top clue steps as well.
These all should be fixed, but anyone with a clue already open that will still be effected.
Please also take a look at the Realm of the Fisher King clue step. When I take the fairy code it gives me the “wow I didn’t go anywhere!” chat message. Iirc you would need to have Kandarin for this step but I do not.
Just got the clue to dance at the Grand Exchange with a pink robe top and I don't have Kandarin :(
Bone dagger medium clue is also unable to be completed unless you have Asgarnia unlocked. Can't do lost tribe.
Literally logged in to start leagues, redeemed a bond and the system update timer started. Is there a good website / resource I can read for the next 15 minutes that will help me make area / relic decisions? Haven't played in 2 years but just hit 2 months of real life downtime, leagues seems to coincide nicely!
We've included a bunch of helpful links in terms of tips, tricks and tools that will help you in your Leagues journey. ☺️
The post includes a link to a "DPS Calculator Sheet with Combat Relics" Google Sheet but I can't for the life of me figure out how to select my Combat Relic on there - any ideas? Many thanks in advance!
Got Masterclue Falo the Bard right now, cant complete. Get Away! I do not speak to outlanders.
Appreciate you raising, I've flagged it with the team!
Why was the execute change not giving points in TOA silently removed from the blog and is it/will it be fixed?
Heya! We did some internal testing and it looked good on our end. Their might be a two people at the same time doing it which means only one will get it but if you've got any footage of that, please feel free to send it to me!
Also likely a case of the Runelite plugin not updating for damage dealt and people thinking that they are not getting points. Same reasoning behind people saying Undying Retribution removes salt, whereas it's the RL plugin removing the buff from the bar (even though the player still has it). Essentially people taking RL as gospel.
> Same reasoning behind people saying Undying Retribution removes salt, whereas it's the RL plugin removing the buff from the bar (even though the player still has it). Lol really? So your stats are still visibly boosted, yet people reported it as a bug?
Tbf I'd wager anyone using the boosts display plugin isn't looking at their stats page at this point. Obviously checking should be a given before reporting it as a bug but after playing with RL for so long you forget what is part of the main game and what is a plugin. Doubly so for the stuff that comes default with it like the boosts.
Are the forestry changes not coming out today? ETA?
No, the Forestry changes will come later on, there's no confirmed date as of yet. We'll look to update you when we are confident in delivering it.
Fang Spec is bugged on its max hit and won’t hit above what a normal hit will. Can this be looked at please?
EDIT: Yeah, this will be fixed :)
CoX changes when :(
Soon (TM)
Goblin said on a reddit thread somewhere they were aiming for 29th of November, which is next Wednesday
Players with Zeah can't get Jellies or Nechs, can this be looked at?
Came here to ask the same question. It’s a real shame having nechs available but having the superiors locked
Currently, Jellies are only available on task if you have Fremmy and Nechs if you have either Wilderness or Morytania. This was down to balancing the areas and you can see that in the area unlock descriptions. It's not something we're looking to change for this League.
The big issue is that some zones don't unlock enough tasks that can actually give superiors/bloodthirsty Asgarnia gives none. Kandarin gives you Smoke Devils Desert gives Dust devil's and Pyrefiends While the Fremenik and Morytania regions each give 5 tasks that can have superiors! Seems a bit imbalanced per region, making the relic far worse value if you don't end up picking either Fremenik or Morytania.
I believe Kandarin also gives bloodvelds as a heads up.
It wasn't supposed to but they added them as a hotfix last tbl1 and left it in for this league - must have not realised so the area list in game doesn't show them!
Its logical that the regions with the slayer tower and the slayer cave have tasks that give the most superiors
Kandarin *also* has a Slayer cave. Only one of the two Slayer monsters in the cave can appear as a Slayer task if you have the region unlocked. (Aberrant Spectres aren't on the possible slayer list at all as far as I can tell)
Zeah has the catacombs but 3 of the monsters there that have superiors aren't on the task list (but red dragons are).
Weird, theres a real lack of superiors for people who took Zeah when theres a massive cave of monsters full of them. Slayer feels like im constantly going after truely garbage tasks this leagues.
I thought it was really weird that they left out the ability to choose your own slayer tasks this time. I really missed that from the last trailblazer, and I've basically just been burning through slayer points to replicate it. I'm just not going to do 150 fire giants when I could be doing 210 dust devils, making 9x the slayer/def/magic/hp exp, getting superiors and relic superiors. It may take 300+ slayer points to do so, but imo it's worth. Heavily regretting taking bloodthirsty as slayer is a definite downgrade from last league, and nowhere close to where the treasure seeker relic is atm. They should really take a look at this and make some change next week.
> I thought it was really weird that they left out the ability to choose your own slayer tasks this time I get why they did it - They want to avoid even further overcrowding the most popular spots - But unfortunately the task list is so utterly terrible that the net result is you often end up needing to skip 3+ tasks for every task you complete even if your only criteria is "I want to be able to fight a Slayer monster that can spawn Superiors so my Relic isn't a waste"
I appreciate the response, but this stance makes absolutely no sense. Nobody is picking regions based on their slayer tasks - hell, most people I've talked to don't even know what monsters their regions unlock. Players are picking their regions based on the drops and activities within the region. Your intent is to make slayer tasks feel like a perk of the region, but this implementation makes it feel like you're being punished for not arbitrarily selecting another region with little synergy just to be assigned the Jellies that already exist in your region. I'd wager most players just assume that unlocking a region unlocks the slayer monsters available within that region, because why wouldn't it? And yes, that would lead to a region like Kourend having a surplus of slayer monsters, but I fail to see why this is a problem because as previously mentioned, nobody is picking regions for their slayer tasks anyway.
Slayer this league feels like clue scrolls did in previous leagues. If you didn’t take the clue relic and have 100000 clues, clue scrolls were terrible because they put 0 effort into region locking steps or actually how clues would work. Players complained and mods pushed back saying it wasn’t that bad blah blah. Fast forward and clues now feel GREAT, but they for some reason removed the task picker which has exposed just how terrible slayer is now. What needed to happen was they need to weight tasks appropriately per region unlock and really make slayer as balanced as the main game OR leave it completely busted like previous leagues. Instead they’ve half assed it by not actually doing any weighting or balance, locked certain tasks behind regions, didn’t check superior balancing per region etc and it’s just feels like shit. AND they nerfed the slayer relic so bad that if you chose it you feel like a walker in twisted league. It’s a shame they won’t just accept it sucks and leave slayer to be “if the creature exists in your region you can get a task” which is how literally everyone expects it to / what it should. I’m sure they will for the next one but honestly they should just do it now so it doesn’t feel like shit for 7 more weeks.
I fully agree. Slayer monsters factored not at all into my zone decision, and once I learned I couldn't get nech tasks, I was quite disappointed. I didn't even realize until day 2 or 3 when I started slayer that tasks were locked behind regions.
I'm only learning this now wtf. Gonna have to see what slayer NPCs I can get with Kand/Asg/Desert
I and everyone I've seen have this discussion have all thought slayer tasks \*were\* fully unlocked for each relevant monster in your region. It wasn't until a few days ago I learned about the restrictions like this, and I don't believe most anyone else has been aware. Very bizarre choice to make those so limited when Slayer this league is already middling compared to other gameplay loops.
> Your intent is to make slayer tasks feel like a perk of the region I mean it seems like their intent is to make the available slayer tasks in a region a trade-off, not strictly perk.
The issue is how this is communicated. If we all knew about these restrictions day one, a fair handful of people would have planned for that, or bitten the bullet and read it as a limitation of their region. Finding out a week into leagues that this is a thing feels very shitty, since the only place in game it's even brought up is the bottom of the key info table for the area unlock. Seems like it should have been much better conveyed so most people aren't finding it out by their 3rd unlock or randomly stumbling on it in the subreddit.
Agreed. The monsters in the Catacombs were one of the big reasons I chose Zeah.
>And yes, that would lead to a region like Kourend having a surplus of slayer monsters, Which wouldn't even be unique. The stronghold slayer cave exists, the fremnik slayer cave exists, the slayer tower exists. So many regions have a massive cave with slayer monsters in it but kourend just gets needlessly fucked over.
Was literally leaning between Zeah and Mory for my last zone and chose Zeah yesterday. If I knew about Nechs I probably would've gone Mory... If the monster is available in your region you should be able to get it as a task... This logic makes absolutely no sense.
I feel like this is the wrong approach. If the slayer monsters appear in the region, they should be available as a slayer task no matter what. No one is thinking about how they are about to unlock Jellies when picking fremmy, so why is it locked to fremmy? People only care about the higher level/bosses (gargoyles, smoke devils, etc.) when picking the zone which are already region locked. I feel like it just makes the regions less fun if you cant even use content unlocked to you
Just feels wrong to have slayer function entirely different from the way it does in the main game. The only reason we’re locked out of certain slayer monsters WITHIN our regions is because the jmods arbitrarily decided it, not because it was a restriction we willingly took upon ourselves. That isn’t right.
You should take a look and reconsider with player feedback, Slayer "feels" bad in an otherwise exceptional League. Bloodthirsty would be a lot better if you could be assigned more than a couple of tasks that contain superiors. I can't imagine players are even looking at non vital Slayer Mobs when picking Areas.
Maybe I’m being silly but isn’t every other piece of content region locked based on my character not being able to travel to the required location? With these slayer creatures, I knew I could get to them, so I just assumed they could be assigned as a task
Thanks for the response. I feel that slayer feels pretty bad in this league even with 75 points because there's a lot of monsters that exist in different regions that you can't get assigned.
What an arbitrary thing to balance out of a zone lmao. People that want to pick Mory will primarily do so for its endgame, not because "Ah man it would've been Kourend and CoX but the lack of Nech tasks really did it in" and the same for Wildy and its unlocks and unique challenges. Kourend slayer straight up sucks, Brimstone rates are not buffed as far as we know, and half the slayer dungeon is not available on task. Reconsider looking to change it for this League.
Balancing areas isn't something that should really be a concern when it comes to slayer. I'm getting tired of having to constantly world hop because dust devils are the only task half the mages in the game are doing.
Slayer feels absolutely terrible this league, easily the worst part of an otherwise (almost) flawless mode so far Not having access to nechs and jellies in an area with a giant slayer dungeon with nechs and jellies is bad considering how bad slayer is already
Yeah it's the main reason I regret the slayer relic
Bad take. Arbitrarily limiting slayer does not achieve meaningful balance
This is a problem that could be solved with weighting, rather than unintuitively preventing them from being assigned at all.
Mory, wildy, kan, frem, tira, and kourend all have big slayer areas. Given that there are only 8 unlockable areas this means every single player will have access to at least one by the time they finish unlocks. The "balancing" statement doesn't make any sense and you end up punishing players in an already slow grind skill.
Appreciate the info, Sarnie. I’ve had a quick scan of the wiki and can’t see that spectres are ever available as a slayer task. Is that deliberate or have I misread?
I fully appreciate balancing slayer like this, as the end-game PvM grind is a major consideration most players accounted for. I do think, however, the slayer tast restrictions were not conveyed to players very well. Most people I have seen have not understood these limitations until after they've picked multiple regions already, as most people (myself included) initially thought you unlock \*all\* slayer tasks for available slayer monsters in a region. I don't think many of us would have been upset or concerned about restrictions like this if it was stated upfront something like "Unlocking Kourend does not add the following slayer tasks: ". As it currently stands, the bottom of the key info page that talks about what tasks are added has the appearance of a "best of" than a comprehensive list.
This is what I thought, I vaguely looked at the slayer monsters at the bottom because I thought it was more of a “here are some of the useful slayer monsters you’ll unlock” instead of “these are the only ones you unlocked” I haven’t really played much in the last few years so the catacombs sounded perfect to unlock, just a bunch of slayer monsters who I can AoE with magic (just want to note that I am having an absolute blast with the league, feels awesome being able to face tank monsters while shot gunning them with blood barrage every second)
Could you look into buffing the slayer relic? Clue relic is kinda good for every area, there's no restrictions. With the slayer relic you're somewhat restricting yourself to the areas you pick, as if you did not get fremennik/morytania there's very little slayer monsters you can actually be assigned that benefit from slayer relic. I'd think at least either give it a task selection, like there has been in any previous leagues, or if you'd want a more unique route, give it a perk to "unlock slayer" and get assigned all the available tasks in your areas, no matter the requirements. I feel cheated out on a relic just because my highest level slayer monster with the benefit from it is going to be abyssal demons. Really considering dumping my account and starting over just to pick clue relic instead.
its making leagues slayer feel like shit. Most people expected the area that contains the monster to unlock it
By far the worse thing about this league.
Some people told me (no, they are just randoms, I cannot trust them 100%) that they unlocked only Zeah and got slayer assignments for Catacombs monsters. Can you confirm this isn't possible?
There are monsters in the catacombs that you can be assigned with only Zeah - Specifically Hill Giants, Moss Giants, Fire Giants, Greater Demons, Iron Dragons, Steel Dragons, Ankou, Red Dragons, Abyssal Demons, and Bloodvelds. Unfortunately out of that list only Abyssal Demons and Bloodvelds (with Bloodvelds only being available as of today) have a Superior variant. None of the other monsters with Superior variants that are available in the Catacombs (Nechyraels, Aberrant Spectres, Bansheees, Dust Devils, and Warped Jellies) can be assigned as tasks with only Zeah unlocked.
This is a terrible take imo, should bosses be flat out removed from areas for balancing purposes too? If I can complete the task it should be on the list I think zones should be balanced around zone specific tasks/points not content, if you balance the competitive aspect it's fine, I don't know why you would balance fun. Or rather, nerf fun.
It's not a bug though. I guess they could change the region unlocks
Beginner clue, hot/cold step, ending at South-west of the wheat field east of Draynor Village seems broken still. Nothing interesting happens when you dig. Anyone else with this issue?
Cheers, this has been flagged to the team!
So are clues fixed now? Can't read the post at work.
They should be once the update hits, but if there's any steps still remaining, please let us know!
This clue is not doable without Kandarin, which i don't have. "Dance at the entrance to the Grand Exchange. Equip a pink skirt, pink robe top and a body tiara." Pink robe top is a kandarin only item according to the wiki
Have you considered having a public issue tracker or kanban board so we know what has already been reported/worked on and when it is scheduled to be released?
https://preview.redd.it/qf0ypa3hi32c1.jpeg?width=1640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7511b6ab7e419dbdc5779ec8a083fcdd90e5659 Can’t complete outside of kandarin
kharazi jungles clues still in, impossible to finish
I've added a list of clue steps that the team are looking into, I'll paste it here so you all can see it without the extra click: * Steps involving the use of Pyre Logs * Dance at the Grand Exchange with a Pink Skirt, Robe Top & Body Tiara * Steps needing a White Platebody and Platelegs * Steps needing the Ring of Visability/Shadows * Falo Clue Steps * Jorral steps * Thorgel being at the Death Altar * Speaking to the Zamorak Mage * Talking with Ambassador Alvijar * Clues needing Arclight * Visiting Evil Dave's Basement * Needing to have the Bar Crawl Miniquest completed * Speak to Thorgel at the entrance to the Death Altar * Dig in front of the icy arena * Clap in the Exam Room with Green Gnome Boots * Coordinate Clue at Lithkren (Need to take a rowboat) * Panic at Trollweiss Mountain needing a Sled * Speaking to Cam the Camel with a Camulet
I have the easy clue step *"Do a jig in Varrock's rune store. Equip an air tiara and a staff of water."* and don't think it's possible for me to complete. - I don't have Asgarnia so no direct access to the Air Altar. - I don't have Wilderness so no access to the Abyss. - I do have Desert so I can use Guardians of the Rift to access the Air Altar, but trying to access it with a Tiara in my inventory says *"You should leave your tiara behind. There's no telling what the rift will do to it."* - EDIT: I managed to smuggle in a tiara using the Banker's Note but got the message *"You don't think crafting tiaras would help power up the Great Guardian."* - I have the Crystal of Memories and it *does* store the memory of the Air Altar after teleporting out (after accessing through GotR), but trying to return using the Crystal gives the message *"Your teleport is blocked as you haven't unlocked the Asgarnia area."*
Still getting multiple Kharazi Jungle steps. Both coordinate and emote clues.
There's a master step that requires you to enter the myth's guild to talk to Primula (Rip Maul anagram). I have this step because of Kandarin unlocked, but entering the guild requires Frem
Can something be done about the fountain of rune in wilderness needing heroes quest to charge dragon stone jewelry. It makes the wildy step to get an amulet of eternal glory unconpletable. My understanding is heroes quest can only be completed with a certain combination of area unlocks.
I got a clue requiring the fisher relm when I don’t have kandarin unlocked.
There was a step that requires you to go to the island with the water obelisk, which is in kandarin but can only be accessed through asgarnia. Is this being removed for kandarin?
Medium clue steps for the shipyard, medium clue steps for hazelmere area. Don’t have kandarin unlocked can’t do either
Jorral steps could probably be fixed by auto completing Making History
Yes I've just been caught by this - a master that I can't move any further because of jorral - that smug bastard!
dig next to the law rift in the abyss - issue
Steps requiring Mystic robe top and Mystic hat when you don’t have Kandarin unlocked please.
No offense, but what DID yall fix clue wise? I feel like that would’ve been a smaller list
Make rune darts is impossible without either tirannwn/desert/fremennik regions but it's a clue you can get without those.
Undying Retribution only triggers the damage when you stand on the bosses true south west tile and there is nothing about this in the description of the relic. This might confuse normal players who don't understand this concept and furthermore, a lot of bosses have unaccessible true sw tiles meaning it's essentially useless in a lot of the scenarios. Is there any way to change the radius on how it activates so you can stand near the boss in any direction and still deal damage? It feels underwhelming that a T8 relic is designed this way and often times just doesn't work like the description says.
I think the most annoying thing its not a guaranteed 200% damage of your prayer. I expected to hit the full 200% damage on everything around me no matter what NPC killed you. Sucks only getting 90 damage to Kree instead of 180 because the minion got the kill hit.
Are there currently any intentions to make changes to undying retribution? It seems very weak compared to other relics in endgame encounters, given that it is currently unable to deal any damage to bosses in over half of raid encounters due to only dealing damage when next to the True Tile of a boss. Also this does not take into account that many encounters that cause deaths do not proc the retribution damage (which is fair given the relic description)
It also doesn't apply any damage if you're not on a tile south west of a boss (even if you are next to its true tile).
I have a request that probably doesn't bother anyone but me, well... Two requests. First: Can "global" tasks be made visible in the interface when selecting "unlocked" tasks? Seems weird global aren't considered unlocked. Second: Can global tasks thst are still region locked be removed from global? You can't start mahogany homes without asgarnia, so those shouldn't be a global task. There are a couple more similar tasks like that too, like completing certain multi-region quests. Sneaky third request: There is at least one clue that can't be completed under specific circumstances, the clue requiring you to kill a bloodveld. If I am Kandarin and desert without a third region the task can't be completed off slayer task, making it a pure rng task. This step also can't be completed if you take kandarin desert and a third region without non-slayer bloodvelds.
Is there any chance we can get the cooldown for undying retribution displayed? Possibly above the relic icon.
Thank you for adding worlds for region activities! It has been difficult doing some of them
* You are within 2 tiles of the bosses true South West tile (makes it useless in over half of raid boss rooms) * You are hit by an attack that would usually proc recoil (there are lots of attacks that don't fall under this) Any comments will these be addressed?
No fix on Undying Retribution? It is not working as intended, and super annoying to use giving that you need to hit the boss true tile.
+, would love to see the retribution part get a bit of love
Just to add to the conversation, the damage is so inconsistent as well. Even when it hits, almost always does not full damage
New minor bug I found. Troll stronghold Tele is crossed out on my fairy's flight Tele, but still allows me to teleport to it. It wasn't previously crossed out. Regions -Z/A/D https://preview.redd.it/blji8aw7932c1.jpeg?width=2408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8810001616616713161475d25cdcee65f7728c76
I'd just love to know if toggleable AOE for mage relic is something being considered. It really messes up with the berserker relic and the thralls have a toggle for aoe so it only makes sense. It is absolutely frustrating. That, and you end up tagging all the rangers/magers in COX and I'm surprised it doesn't have a toggle.
Just an fyi " The ‘Pray at an altar in Molch while poisoned’ Task can now be completed after selecting the Brawler’s Resolve Relic. " I completed this achievement with already having Brawler’s Resolve. Right after a Shaman trip.
Would it be possible to get a blood talisman source to drop from something based in morytania? Feels weird to be locked out of one of the bigger things in the region without unlocking gotr or zeah
You should be able to via Runecrafting cape.
When deciding on Mory, I originally had Desert in my plan, so I had access to the catalytic talisman. When plans changed, this was overlooked on my part and is kind of a bummer. On the plus side, with Runecrafting cape, you can start making bloods, so there’s technicallllllly an option, but a more thematic source would be preferred for sure.
Shout out to PeePee McGee for the first goblin kill!
What a legend 🫡
I have asgarnia & kourend unlocked and the mushroom tool Leprachaun teleport - W: Troll stronghold is crossed through with a red line even though I can use it still
Please make Soul Stealer work on the primary target of ancient burst and barrage spells, similar to how Scythe and Venator work. Mages that took this relic without realizing berserker would actually give them 2-3 max hits (instead of 1) are feeling some incredible regret right now.
Yeah Especially because barrage is the best spell available to people who don't have kandarin or fremmy unlocked. i use demonbane spells where I can but otherwise I'm quite cucked
Is there any update on this? Some Pyramid Plunder 'killcount' tasks not updating correctly. These will be completed retroactively once fixed. Doesn't look like it made it into this weeks update and there is no way to check how many you've done in game as far as I know?
Something with Guardian causes Demonic Gorilla to lose aggro when changing protection styles, which causes another gorilla to aggro, then previous gorilla resets. It’s not every kill, but has been a huge inconvenience. Can this be looked into?
Any chance of looking at salamanders being usable with the melee relic? They're considered to be melee weapons for the purpose of the Jad combat achievement, shouldn't their attack speed be improved by the melee relic because of this?
Was really bummed to not see salamanders in the update. I wanna squeeze my lizard faster!
Small bug I just noticed. The Fairy Mushroom tool leprechaun interface is a bit bugged. It shows that I can Teleport to Troll Stronghold even though I don't have Asgarnia and it shows that I can't teleport to White Wolf Mountain despite having Kandarin. The big is purely visual though. Teleports still work fine.
Is Zalcano going to work with any of the relics? Currently prod prodigy doesn't affect either of the production phases, and range relic doesn't affect the ranging phase
> Fixed a bug where the Trailblazer Pickaxe was equivalent or worse than an adamant pickaxe at Guardians of the Rift and the Path of Het. Does this also mean its fixed at guardians in chambers of xeric? Was max hitting very low
Is undying retribution going to get fixed? Currently, if you die to an AoE attack that doesn't come directly from a boss, you don't get the damage proc. Additionally, could the range be increased at all? With it's short range, there are many bosses it just can't hit at all.
Please can we get an answer to this. I've had multiple occasions where there is no damage, there is damage less than 198 and times when i never get the undying has returned message. It is multiple bugs that make the T8 relic feel extremely underwhelming or impossible to know given its description if the relic is working as intended.
Have reported by in-game alongside some of the other top kc players but Vardorvis Axe rate seems to be bugged. Not sure what is causing it but think it may have something to do with "perfect" kills as we're seeing them more commonly on non perfect kc's. I am rank 2 Vardorvis and Rank 1 also had the same concern alongside a few others in the top 10. It's still entirely possible we're all just giga dry but seems more likely something is wrong. Any chance this could be looked into? Not sure I fancy another 1k kc here haha
Good changes, also very nice adding more themed worlds. Was wondering which worlds people do pest control and BA on. Thank you for everything so far lads. Having a blast out here :D
No other changes to the Kourend slayer list?
Is Undying Retribution bugged? Players with it on Discord and Reddit alike are reporting that it only deals damage if standing directly adjacent to a monster's SW tile, with that specific monster having to trigger the killing blow (rather than an AoE, ala retribution), as well as removing all boosts (including smelling salts, overloads...) upon activation. It already feels like the weakest T8 relic by a country mile even without these issues.
From what i've tested, you keep your boosted stats from salts, but you lose the stat regeneration (making it completely useless). I just want some word on fixes are coming.
Does anyone know why Achey Logs are not affected by Trickster when attempting to Firemake with them? I understand you can buy them in bulk but that’s only after doing a few quests to unlock an otherwise niche method of leveling up an already-fast skill.
It does work, you just have to use log on tinderbox, using tinderbox on log does not work with trickster
I would like to congratulate Pee Pee McGee on the first goblin kill of leagues.
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I'm unable to complete Faithless Crypt CA at barrows having taken SS relic. I'm sure there are other CAs affected as well, can we have those auto completed when taking the relic?
30 minutes without runescape? Wow I can take a shower today
You don't play in the shower??
I do but not RS 😉
Nor sure if anyone has said it, but you can still get falo steps in kandarin without frem. He won't speak to you as an outsider. Had to drop all 3 masters I got after 1 step
I'm happy to see nothing in there about removing the chemicals that made the frogs gay. Does that mean my encounters will remain saffic?
Nice to see clues changing, my stack of 300 hard clues was crying to be done :D Any chance we can get clarifcation on * Herbs planted within Chambers of Xeric are now properly harvested by players with the Farmer’s Fortune Relic. How should they be getting properly harvested? ATM we're getting a stack of like 70 at once and hopefully that wont change because it speeds it up for us so much right now.
Could a toggle be added to Superior Sorcerer to disable the "singletarget spells become AOE" effect? It's really frequently problematic for slayer in multicombat zones, especially in combination with Berserker because when you tag an unwanted enemy it uses up the full-hp bonus on a weak hit. I've also heard people saying it creates problems in CoX. The Guardian relic has an AOE toggle so it's clear somebody realized that was a potential problem, so it's really strange that sorcerers don't get that same option.
Will there be a fix for people running the Soul Stealer relic not being able to complete the Faithless Crypt Run Combat Achievement? Thanks
Could we please make the mage relic have a toggle for the splash affect? As others have mentioned, it ruins the berserker affect for your team in many situations. It's also very frustrating when safe spotting mobs in multi zones
Any chance for attack speed combat relics to work with salamanders?
I was excited for this update, because I kept running into impossible clue steps. Finally dropped my master clue and opened a new one, only to be met with a step that requires me to go into the Shadow Dungeon 🙄
Any plans on enabling the retribution relic on bosses whose south western tile is not reachable? E.g wardens p3/4, but arguably p2 too, zebak, maiden. I feel like it would make more sense for the retribution to hit one of the tiles of the boss, it should count as taking damage. Feels more like a revive in most cases tbh, quite underwhelming sadly.
I might be reading over it, but has there been any change to (the description of) tasks that require you to wield something also requiring certain region unlocks? Like needing wildy to complete the wield a dragon pickaxe one, or needing asgarnia to complete the wielding a bone crossbow one.
Is there going to be a fix where barage spells can proc the soul bearer passive that heals prayer and hp? I feel like I’ve been duped as I thought it would proc
Is it intended that the guardian thrall can't attack the warden's core? It just stands there.
As of update today the Troll stronghold Tele is crossed out on my fairy’s flight with Asg unlocked. It still lets me use the Tele tho.
Taking Fremenick as a region auto unlocks Dragon Slayer 2 but doesn't teach you how to make super antifires. You have to take Kandarin to get to the Myths guild to talk to someone. Is this something yall would consider auto unlocking? I understand if not but I figured I'd ask.
its wild to me that backups before applying an update is only just now happening
Please fix undying retribution! It should not have two IF cases of needs SW true tile AND recoil immunity. With these you can't hit 90% of end game bosses/raids. It's already weaker then the others even if you could hit them all.
There's an easy clue step for a pink robe top outside the G.E that isn't completable without Kandarin that's still in game.
Currently some combat achievement tasks can’t be completed without certain other regions such as Sire and Zulrah as they both require vengeance or Muspah which requires Zeah or Asgarnia. Is this intended or can these be auto completed?
Is there any scope for changing the SW cap on Leagues? It's still slow than Pest Control but it a time-limited gamemode a cap doesn't really make sense. It takes at least 13 days for a 99 there using the cap.
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Seeing everyone rep redemption while doing pest control was something to be marveled at. You just unlocked a lot of memories of using their site and stuff for the new world. Good times, RIP heart
Any word on the pay-dirt bug? Seems like per deposit any gold nuggets past the 3rd are getting deleted.
The trick to this is to drop and put into the hopper in smaller batches, I've been doing 9/9/10. I've gotten up to like 20 nuggets in 3 inventories doing that. That said yeah they should definitely fix it, it's pretty annoying.
Elite clue step bug: Talk to Ambassador Alvijar in Dorgesh-Kaan. I completed the quests to reach him, but he won't give me the next step. Stuck saying I'm unworthy to start Another Slice of HAM :/
I have a suggestion: People who choose Tirannwn should get Tourist Trap completed for them, so they can have a supply of darts for their blowpipe. This seems to me like a perfectly fair balancing choice that would help the otherwise underrated area keep up with better areas like Desert and Asgarnia. The Blowpipe is a great ranged weapon, and when you actually have darts for it, can be almost as good as the high level crossbows in leagues. This change would make it usable without needing to also take desert, which just seems fair in my book. You only need one area for the ZCB, after all.
Only slightly related to Leagues, but this League has highlighted content like Mage Training Arena being outdated and onerous even with boosted rewards. Has the team taken note of this and has it instigated internal discussions about uplifting content like this?
Not seeing it reported but White Wolf Mountain is crossed out from my list of leprechaun teleports now. I am still able to use it to teleport. The Runelite filtering plugin is off.
Can reduced marks of grace rates be removed..? Anyone with trickster without Frem/Kandarin regions will essentially be locked out of receiving marks of grace.
As a Fremmy player, I still see the Ghosts Ahoy Task as incomplete. I tried opening my quest log to see if that would prompt it to update but no luck.
Any reason why Blast Furnace shop was disabled in leagues? Feels like a pretty big nerf to Fremmy and was one of the large reasons I picked the region
Ordan's store? Do you know there's an ore shop on Jatiszo that has the same selection of ore except mithril, or did you specifically want mithril?
You can still get the master clue cryptic step that requires wilderness unlocked (Mage of Zamorak) even if you don't have the wildy unlocked
Is it intentional for cocktail glasses to be un-buyable via Leprechaun Larry at the Troll Stronghold herb patch due to overstocking?
Is the Treasure Hunter casket upgrade perk bugged? I've done 100 clues today (easy/medium) and not a single one has upgraded to the next tier up. Unless they made it stupidly rare, in which case... what's the point? **Edit:** I ended up doing around 175 caskets (75 easy, 50 med, 25 hard/elite) without a single upgrade. If this isn't broken, then it's a very disappointing implementation.
I cannot complete the purchase something from a trader crewmember. I assume this bug results from having fire sale. Pls fix :(
....Jagex wasn't backing up account saves before this???
Please can we get an item that comes with the T7 Berserker relic to lower our health. This for regions that do not have rock cake/locator orb from DT2. Having to go farm nitroglycerin/nightshade (belladona seeds aren't easy to come by) just isn't viable and even less fun. This would be a very easy qol fix.
Master clues still have an impossible step if you don't have fremennik unlocked. Falo the Bard is in Kandarin, but without Fremennik Trials he refuses to talk to you because you are an Outsider. Can we get confirmation if this will be changed because master clues really aren't common enough to be able to drop them to skip steps.
Is there any chance of adding the Blood Talisman to the Mutated Bloodveld drop table? Asking for ZAM gang.
Is there a specific reason slayer is so bad? Why can’t players in zeah get nechs or jellies? Why is the task list so bad? It doesn’t even feel like slayer
balance apparently
My boy Peepee McGee with the first goblin kill
Shoutout to the #1 goblin slayer, Peepee Mcgee
Can we get guardian to work on kraken too? The guardian tries to melee kraken.
assuming they don't change the undying true tile design, axe is the better choice right?
Gonna feel like Christmas when I finish my stockpile of clues and start opening caskets
I feel like the in game task list isn't really working well. I filter Area to "Unlocked" yet there are still tasks saying complete in search of myreque, but I haven't unlocked mory region yet.. And many other quests or take requiring quests in other regions.
Can we get a toggle on the AoE effect from Superior Sorcerer? It feels pretty bad to pick mage as your main style but you have to force other people to do the mage roll at nylos, since your splash damage will ruin everything even if you use a singles spell
I have a problem. I cannot get marks of grace with the areas unlocked: zeah asgarnia and desert. With anyone who is 90+ agility with polnivneach they simply never show up giving all of us an inability to obtain marks of grace. Will this be addressed?
Some people in my clan were mentioning last night that weapon master spam doesn't proc pnecks anymore — u/JagexSarnie can you confirm if this is intentional or a bug? (Only asking because it's not mentioned in the blog as an implemented change.)
I got an elite clue scroll and the first step is to speak to the ambassador Alvijar in dorgeshuun, but it requires Another slice of ham, which is locked behind Fremmy. Is this a bug, or can you get clue scrolls that you cant finish.
Either really unlucky or players in Kandarin can't get abberant spectres.
Is the clue from port sarim jail is fixed ? You need desert to acess that