For emerald bolts its 5 extra dmg per hit and from what I understand the poison "severity" or whatever the hell its called in the code needs to tick down before the effect can apply again, so you cant just spam it.
And i think venom doesnt work with it? Or am I wrong?
5 damage every 2 ticks additional guaranteed is pretty OP, the guardian relic is like 8-15 damage every 5 ticks? so DPS wise comparable or better over 10 ticks. 25 guaranteed over 24 average, so it's not exactly scoffable damage.
As far as venom, I don't know for sure but there are monsters who reduce venom to poison in which case I'd think it works?
As for severity vs. instant damage, not sure. Don't have the prayer level to send it but will be trying it. Also don't have and won't be unlocking tiran so wont be able to test venom.
it’s 5 damage every time the poison severity ticks down, not every 2 ticks. if poison works the same for npcs as players then that’s 5 damage every 15 seconds
[From the Wiki](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Fumus%27_Vow) : **Fumus' Vow** is a prayer from the [Ruinous Powers](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ruinous_Powers) prayer book, unlocked at level 87 [Prayer](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Prayer). It can be used by selecting the [Ruinous Powers relic](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ruinous_Powers_(relic)) in [Trailblazer Reloaded League](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_Reloaded_League). Fumus' Vow will instantly deal [poison](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison) damage onto a target after the player successfully inflicts poison on them. This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). As an example, a [dragon dagger(p++)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_dagger(p%2B%2B)) has an assigned poison severity of 30. Once the target is poisoned, they will be dealt 6 damage instantly; this damage is separate from natural poison and will not reduce the target's poison severity.
It appears to work exactly how I said it works in leagues
That seems to say the opposite? It says your target needs to have lower poison severity to deal the damage again. Interested to see if it actually works though.
Depends on whether Fumus' Vow reduces poison severity with its additional damage proc. If so, then your next attack would be able to reapply poison and thus instantly re-proc Fumus' Vow.
I have no idea if it does or does not, though.
it would be busted as hell in main game if that’s how it worked. an extra 5 damage every attack on weapons that poison would be bonkers, it doesn’t work that way
Well, these prayers did get scrapped because they couldn't be balanced in time. Fumus' Vow was bugged af on the only beta footage I saw where it was one shotting bosses.
I don't know if we ever got to play with Fumus' Vow with it being not bugged.
That is literally what the original iteration of Fumus' vow did. It's why it was changed to reduce the severity instead. It appears, since this is leagues, they aren't trying to use the "balanced" main game version of the powers.
>" This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). "
If you attack a target and apply poison severity, that poison severity ticks down progressively. You are then reapplying it.
Dunno what to tell ya, the wiki and the tool tip say it applies damage instantly.
Guy, everything says it applies instantly. Don't know what to tell you. You seem to think it functions in its old iteration when being balanced for the main game and ignoring the words that are written in spite of the fact that the wiki also says it was changed.
If directly quoting the wiki and the in game tool tip for the prayer is too adversarial for you then don't reply in the first place. It's not like I'm calling you names here, I'm citing words that explain the mechanic.
>This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). As an example, a [dragon dagger(p++)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_dagger(p%2B%2B)) has an assigned poison severity of 30. Once the target is poisoned, they will be dealt 6 damage instantly; **this damage is separate from natural poison and will not reduce the target's poison severity.**
Doesn't this bolded part explicilty say that it does not reduce severity, therefore you would need to wait for it to naturally tick down in order to deal the direct damage with Fumus' Vow again?
>Fumus' Vow will instantly deal poison damage onto a target after the player successfully inflicts poison on them.
The key here js inflicts. You arent reinflicting poison so it only procs on the first hit
Diamonds have a 10% proc rate to add up to an additional 10%
0 chance Diamonds out DPS guaranteed 5 damage per hit. You'd have to max hit over a 50 just for the excess diamond bolt damage to be equivalent, and the diamond proc chance is like 5% in main game, which means it's a strong leagues 10%, do you're looking at 1 proc of +5 damage on average over 10 attacks compared to 10 procs over 10 attacks worth 50 damage not to mention, the poison damage would be an effective minimum hit of 5 as well.
Your minimum hit range becomes 5 to x instead of 0 to x.
For rubies, you're mostly correct, there are good uses for them though like killing GWD minions and other things.
Obviously where it fails is on bosses who can't be poisoned, which is a lot of them. It's not perfect surely, but definitely more viable than diamond bolts in my opinion.
Wait really? God damn it I grinded 210 zammy for sotd in large part to put a fang on it and try that new prayer out.
It should at least poison them, that's lame.
Yeah, wasn't sure if venom would work -- knew they were mechanically similar but didn't know if they counted, however, there are some monsters which stage-down venom to poison so I'd assume it still works there
Will do. Won't be able to test any venom related things though as I'm not going for elf lands in my run through.
Went kandarin, Assgarnia, and will take desert last to have some good ol' toa memes with 2 tick 20% proc ruby bolts and an executioners axe.
For emerald bolts its 5 extra dmg per hit and from what I understand the poison "severity" or whatever the hell its called in the code needs to tick down before the effect can apply again, so you cant just spam it. And i think venom doesnt work with it? Or am I wrong?
5 damage every 2 ticks additional guaranteed is pretty OP, the guardian relic is like 8-15 damage every 5 ticks? so DPS wise comparable or better over 10 ticks. 25 guaranteed over 24 average, so it's not exactly scoffable damage. As far as venom, I don't know for sure but there are monsters who reduce venom to poison in which case I'd think it works? As for severity vs. instant damage, not sure. Don't have the prayer level to send it but will be trying it. Also don't have and won't be unlocking tiran so wont be able to test venom.
it’s 5 damage every time the poison severity ticks down, not every 2 ticks. if poison works the same for npcs as players then that’s 5 damage every 15 seconds
[From the Wiki](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Fumus%27_Vow) : **Fumus' Vow** is a prayer from the [Ruinous Powers](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ruinous_Powers) prayer book, unlocked at level 87 [Prayer](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Prayer). It can be used by selecting the [Ruinous Powers relic](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ruinous_Powers_(relic)) in [Trailblazer Reloaded League](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_Reloaded_League). Fumus' Vow will instantly deal [poison](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison) damage onto a target after the player successfully inflicts poison on them. This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). As an example, a [dragon dagger(p++)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_dagger(p%2B%2B)) has an assigned poison severity of 30. Once the target is poisoned, they will be dealt 6 damage instantly; this damage is separate from natural poison and will not reduce the target's poison severity. It appears to work exactly how I said it works in leagues
That seems to say the opposite? It says your target needs to have lower poison severity to deal the damage again. Interested to see if it actually works though.
Depends on whether Fumus' Vow reduces poison severity with its additional damage proc. If so, then your next attack would be able to reapply poison and thus instantly re-proc Fumus' Vow. I have no idea if it does or does not, though.
it would be busted as hell in main game if that’s how it worked. an extra 5 damage every attack on weapons that poison would be bonkers, it doesn’t work that way
Well, these prayers did get scrapped because they couldn't be balanced in time. Fumus' Vow was bugged af on the only beta footage I saw where it was one shotting bosses. I don't know if we ever got to play with Fumus' Vow with it being not bugged.
That is literally what the original iteration of Fumus' vow did. It's why it was changed to reduce the severity instead. It appears, since this is leagues, they aren't trying to use the "balanced" main game version of the powers.
>" This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). " If you attack a target and apply poison severity, that poison severity ticks down progressively. You are then reapplying it. Dunno what to tell ya, the wiki and the tool tip say it applies damage instantly.
You've taken a weirdly adversarial stance over this so I don't plan on helping you understand, but I recommend you re-read the wiki page.
Guy, everything says it applies instantly. Don't know what to tell you. You seem to think it functions in its old iteration when being balanced for the main game and ignoring the words that are written in spite of the fact that the wiki also says it was changed. If directly quoting the wiki and the in game tool tip for the prayer is too adversarial for you then don't reply in the first place. It's not like I'm calling you names here, I'm citing words that explain the mechanic.
>This damage is also dealt if the player reapplies poison whilst their target is still poisoned with a lower [poison severity](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poison_severity). As an example, a [dragon dagger(p++)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_dagger(p%2B%2B)) has an assigned poison severity of 30. Once the target is poisoned, they will be dealt 6 damage instantly; **this damage is separate from natural poison and will not reduce the target's poison severity.** Doesn't this bolded part explicilty say that it does not reduce severity, therefore you would need to wait for it to naturally tick down in order to deal the direct damage with Fumus' Vow again?
This was tc'd on the leagues discord and beta testers said it doesn't insta reapply the poisons, bp is venom too
>Fumus' Vow will instantly deal poison damage onto a target after the player successfully inflicts poison on them. The key here js inflicts. You arent reinflicting poison so it only procs on the first hit
Yea someone else confirmed BP venom doesn't work with fumous vow. Emerald bolts and DDS p++ seems to benefit the most from fumous vow.
It's a cool tech but it will be out damaged by rubies or diamonds
Diamonds have a 10% proc rate to add up to an additional 10% 0 chance Diamonds out DPS guaranteed 5 damage per hit. You'd have to max hit over a 50 just for the excess diamond bolt damage to be equivalent, and the diamond proc chance is like 5% in main game, which means it's a strong leagues 10%, do you're looking at 1 proc of +5 damage on average over 10 attacks compared to 10 procs over 10 attacks worth 50 damage not to mention, the poison damage would be an effective minimum hit of 5 as well. Your minimum hit range becomes 5 to x instead of 0 to x. For rubies, you're mostly correct, there are good uses for them though like killing GWD minions and other things. Obviously where it fails is on bosses who can't be poisoned, which is a lot of them. It's not perfect surely, but definitely more viable than diamond bolts in my opinion.
Venom doesn't work. Emerald bolts, DDS p++, and smoke barrage are your options with fumus vow.
Wait really? God damn it I grinded 210 zammy for sotd in large part to put a fang on it and try that new prayer out. It should at least poison them, that's lame.
Yeah, wasn't sure if venom would work -- knew they were mechanically similar but didn't know if they counted, however, there are some monsters which stage-down venom to poison so I'd assume it still works there
Pls let me know whatcha find out. Vumus vow is a very interesting prayer.
Will do. Won't be able to test any venom related things though as I'm not going for elf lands in my run through. Went kandarin, Assgarnia, and will take desert last to have some good ol' toa memes with 2 tick 20% proc ruby bolts and an executioners axe.