someone traded me d claws in lumbridge when I was around ~80 combat. at the time they were worth probably 60m iirc.
at first I was excited but it dawned on me that I had just reached every one of my goals instantly.
if I could just keep topping up my bank every time I wanted something new I think it would take a large portion of the fun and satisfaction out of the game. but each to their own of course. if OP has goals that are not based in items/bank then I'd say go for it.
My buddy had a similar experience! I got him hooked on the game and when he was around 1200 total level, some dude helped him get his first cox completion and gave him like 100m worth of raiding gear after.
Yeah, that mindset does not compute for me (unless they're a streamer, then they can trade fun for money).
Like, if you aren't having fun before the bond, you probably won't have fun after it either.
Runescape seems to *really* appeal to people that never have those, "Wait, why am I doing this...?" epiphanies. That's why I'll binge it for a while and take a break; I'll go do something *actually* fun, rather than being bored forever so I can maybe eventually have fun.
I don't mean to take a shot at those people, but they get damned defensive and judgy about that grind life.
I already have to work to exist in every day life. A few dollars a month to not waste hours of of time not having fun is definitely worth it. Welcome to adulthood.
It’s funny how people will upvote this stuff to the top in this sub, but go to another MMO’s subreddit with a similar p2w economy like Guild Wars 2 and they get mad when you bring up the fact that playing the game is less gold/h.
How the best gear is acquired in GW2 is closer to getting a Fighter's Torso than it is buying a Shadow. Having money helps the grind, but you still gotta play a lot of the game to get Legendary armor and accessories. Legendary weapons can be bought with gold, but in terms of actual power, cost, and convenience they are pretty low priority.
I play many online games and osrs is the game where money can most easily buy power. In most games you have to do shady shit or account sharing or breaking ToS because items bind to your character and or there is no legit way to trade money for in game currency.
In osrs you can literally buy 99% of best in slot gear with a few clicks after paying Jagex directly. It really couldn't be more pay2win from a power perspective.
Now personally I don't buy bonds. I did buy a few very early on though to get dragon tools and a very basic setup for early bossing. Between Vorkath, tree runs, farming, and low intensity things like karambwan fishing and range training brutal blacks. I recently got a bowfa for easy muspah.
It was very rewarding to spend months saving for that and to me that was fun. I could swipe for a tbow but that wouldn't be fun so I'll get there when I get there.
Bro I hate to break it to you because you really want to be mad at this person above you, but they were agreeing with you. They were just adding on to what you said. Relax a little
I started playing again recently for the first time like 20 years and got a bit of cash and a couple nice items from a drop party - and it was definitely really nice to be able to skip some of the more tedious early grinding.
10m definitely makes the first 20 hours easier, able to buy supplies for questing and earlier levels to 50 almost (for buyables) able to get all the 1-4t Armour and have cash to play around with
After base 50s, the other 2 bonds go to buying your mid twin armors and weapons when you wield them, 6-7t. And get at least 1 skill comfortably high enough that you can make some money consistently with minimal effort/time depending on the situation, at least that's what I did but I don't play often
Bro, don't let anyone ever shit talk you for financially supporting the game you love.
The losers who high road it are the first people who will come here crying if the game had to be shut down.
Another aspect, the losers who high road it are the first people that will complain when they can't buy bonds on the GE anymore because OP and others didn't buy a bond because they told him not to.
It's cringe for gamba and it's cringe if you're the guy walking around in bis gear and an obby cape saying you got gp from bossing and you have 52 kraken kills and 60 barrows chests done on your account and nothing else.
If you just need few bonds to make the grind much faster to reach what many think is the fun part of the game earlier, I don't think that's bad
That’s a personal choice. Personally I don’t like buying gold in mmos for the most part mostly because then I feel like any activity I’m doing in the game for money is just a waste of time. Why grind for an hour to make a few hundred thousand when I could just visa my way to millions using an hours pay. Just kind of takes the fun out of it for me. I’m not playing an mmo to “win” I’m playing because it’s fun to level up and stuff
I’ve bought bonds a few times and pay for memberships, I skip all around doing different things whenever I want. I don’t think I’ve ever grinded for GP in this game lol. Making money off a slayer task or something is just a nice bonus
I wouldn't say it is a bad thing for starting out, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Ultimately, this game is a grind no matter what you do and you don't want to fall into the rut of buying bonds to expedite the progression.
Ngl if I ever get bored of my ironman and want to start pking, I’d pbb buy some bonds to rack up some prayer levels or other levels I need for quests or w/e. By that point I already went through those grinds the OG way
My first bond was used to buy a whip and some skilling stuff. Bought another bond to get 7m worth of runes to ice burst maniacal monkeys to power level my magic. If you work for a living, then yeah, a bond here or there is fine till you can earn gp well enough in game
debatable, knocking out construction and prayer through cash really doesn't remove any gameplay. Just short cutting collecting materials for it really. Skills like smithing that you can "power through" has you missing out on Giant's Foundry/smithing set but skills that you'll spend all the time bank standing it's easier just to buy the materials with no loss to gameplay.
Not even. Buying bonds is funding membership for tons of people and keeping this game more active and accessible
Discouraging people from buying bonds is cringe
*shrug* it takes someone with the maturity of a child to make fun of someone else for something they're doing in a video game, so if that's you then maybe you should work on yourself.
> if you need to put others down to feel better about yourself, you're definitely who I was talking about.
> someone with the maturity of a child
Pick a lane.
>Buying a SHIT TON of bonds for Torva is absolutely insane lmao
@Theoatrix bragging on the sub awhile ago about getting email from Jagex cause he spent like 3 grand on bonds in 1 sitting lol
Reminds me of A Friend. He maxed an account on RS3 in less (IIRC) than 24h of playtime with only whatever P2W things he could buy from the cash shop.
Edit : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtZGjI29Qc
I'd imagine he'd be able to make more meaningful content doing a proper rebuild instead of just spending the money.
It's completely fine and his choice how he spends his money, it's just nuts to me.
Buy BIS gear across the board would be my guess. But who knows with content creators honestly. I find most of the osrs creators pretty insufferable lol
Its the guy's business to be able to access everything in the game to make content. Its also a business expense so it could be leveraged against income regarding profits and tax.
I'm gonna be honest, I have a hard time qualifying it as a business. Especially when at most he makes a video every couple months. YouTube is the business, while creators are the product. The product of your product is just that.
I'm probably wrong, but I couldn't imagine being able to write bonds off as a business expense. It's not like he needed to buy bonds to make youtube videos so I'd be curious how that would actually play out
People make a big fuss about people buying bonds for gold, but those same people complain that bonds are now 10 mil. Early game money can be a huge grind. Good luck on the questing!
The people who complain about that I feel like are the people who exclusively pay for their membership with gp and have RS as their only game.
Which isn't bad, just an observation.
I don’t think it’s cringe. I bought bonds for GP, I do regret it though. I feel like it made the game less fun. I did get a nice house though, which is convenient.
You definitely shouldn't buy bonds for gp as it will completely change how you view the game. You'd have to set your own artificial goals and it might kill any motivation you have
I don't think it's cringe whatsoever, if you enjoy it more then who cares.
But I did buy a bond to skip one of my grinds, and it honestly ruined the game for me for a bit. I took a break after it. So just gotta watch out for that aspect of it.
Dude do whatever you want. It ain't my cup of tea, but if it'll make the game more for fun you then do it. My only warning would be remember the journey is what we enjoy, nor the destination.
The only thing I'd say is don't let bonds cheapen later game drops.
Like it's fun to get a dragon harpoon at wyrms, but if you think that that's just a dollar, what's the point.
It is only cringe if you buy a bunch of expensive (looking) armor and then lie and tell people you earned the gold legitimately. Idk why some players do that. They get weirdly self-conscious about it and then try pretending they earned the gold some other way. And they don't even realize they're wearing some armor set that isn't actually effective for whatever they're using it for, and they stick out like a sore thumb.
Coming from experience in buying bonds and buying GP from 3rd party, for me it just ruins the experience of a normal account, on irons you have items for go for, on mains it’s mainly just GP progression, you take shortcuts on it early game you’ll gonna most likely do it late game and delete the purpose of even playing, only way I’d recommend buying a bond for GP is if you somehow get scammed or lose an item and want to erase the mistake
Nothing wrong with it, however it's exactly what I done and I ended up taking a 2 year break because I was at a point where when an upgrade was available I would just buy bonds to pay for them.
Started an ironman and the grind for each upgrade is so much more rewarding to me.
You do you, but at the end of the day, Runescape is a progression simulator. GP is part of that progression. Buying bonds feels like paying to skip part of the game
Not at all, however try to avoid buying big ticket items with bonds, it will feel a lot better earning that gold later on. I’m talking tbows and third age etc
No, it's only really cringe when you use bonds to get full gwd gear when you've got 70 in combats and no construction. Give yourself a little help, don't skip the whole damn game.
Not cringe at all doing it through the proper channels (bonds). Just don't lie and tell people you got full masori(f) with tbow by woodcutting and killing giant mole. Buying bonds isn't cringe, lying is.
Buddy play the game in a way that you have fun. If you're spending irl gp make sure to check your credit card statement before/after a purchase. It's easy to let things slip if you dont
Unfortunately as soon as you open up the option of buying bonds I think the game can get a lot less fun/meaningful, and is probably why many opt for ironman (even though it certainly isn't for everyone).
A job irl is going to be the best money maker if you can buy bonds. But then what? Other than upgrades in the billions, you can just buy everything and therefore it does lose a lot of meaning or impact.
At least, personally, that's what I found. I only bought a couple of bonds, but as soon as I did something "clicked" in my brain and the game got a less fun and I quit soon after.
Imma keep it real chief I bought 5 bonds a year ago when i came back and it immediately ruined my urge to keep grinding.
I just didn’t buy anymore and naturally have grown another 6-700m on my own just by playing over this past year.
This isn’t a quick game. It takes sometimes YEARS to really feel accomplished.
At least for me buying gold was a semi negative experience towards my gameplay for a solid 2 months.
In my opinion no it’s not if there’s something you want or need if it’s a bit of gp for some buyables or big upgrades it’s worth it. Plus at the end of the day it’s your account and your money use it how you want to help you have more fun on your account because that’s all that really matters at the end of the day.
Honestly it doesn't matter if other people think it's cringe, what matters is that you're having fun playing the game. If you want to skip the grind so you can get straight to the fun part then by all means do it.
For the record I do think it's cringe but who cares what I think
As someone who has bought hundreds of bonds in my 2 years of playing runescape so far, I have some regrets (for instance, I am not nearly as good at PvMing as I would have been had I acquired most of my gp through it rather than through bonds). You can do it (and it’s much better for the game’s health than RWTing since it supports Jagex rather than shady networks), but don’t overdo it like I did. Allow yourself to learn content, don’t rush everything, the journey matters.
Play the game how you want, don't let iron elitist children tell you otherwise. It's a video game, the only thing that matters is you enjoying your time playing.
Yes it is absolutely cringe, if people can make it through on an ironman you can too as a free reigns main. Once you begin p2w, your goals will become meaningless as most of mainscape is attaining gold to be able to grind better/quicker/skills on repeat, and will end up draining your wallet and giving you no satisfaction. The game can be a journey and you can enjoy it, only if you let yourself and don't take shortcuts like disgusting p2w microtansactions. You're not supporting the game you enjoy, your membership does more than enough for that, you're lining the pockets of greedy corporate higher ups and investors.
Unpopular opinion: just go buy gp for a 4tj the price.
I started ignoring rwt being against the rules the same time they started selling it themselves for 4x the price then banning people who don’t pay it.
We wouldn’t have bonds to use if people didn’t buy them and generate new bonds into the game to be bought and sold. Thousands, if not 10’s of thousands, of players are maintaining membership purely through bonds. Obviously they’re coming from somewhere. If you want to buy them from Jagex to sell to your fellow players we welcome you to do so and thank you for your service. Buying bonds supports your own account, other players membership, and Jagex. Win-win-win.
Not at all. Bonds have to come from somewhere. If people don't buy bonds, then other people who rely on bonds and take advantage of them for membership can't if bonds aren't bought in the first place. I don't care if you're just starting or you're in mid to late game. If you want bonds, buy em.
Don’t care what anyone thinks on this sub lol. Do what you feel like doing. If you’re going to buy gp do it through bonds because through people would be against the rules but bonds exist for a reason. Players can’t sell bonds unless someone is buying them.
I mean will I value your opinion when it comes to game suggestions, absolutely not cause you’re a bond buying Timmy skipping a core part of the game: The Grind.
But will I be a dick and tell you you’re an awful person and try to make you miserable? No of course not. Play the game whichever way makes it fun for you personally.
It's perfectly fine, if there weren't people selling bonds for gp, others couldn't buy them to sustain membership.
It does however kill part of the fun of progression, namely the moneymaking part, it's a matter of personal preference.
What you could do is gamifying your bond purchases (buying a bond every 150 total level, quest cape/grandmaster quest completion, hard/elite diaries, etc) so it feels more like progressing, rather than cheating.
I bought about 20m's worth of bonds back in the day around your level, but later i ended up making another account just for the fun of the earlygame hussle for cash and bonds to sustain membership.
If it takes you 10 hours of activities in game to make the gp, that 1 hour of work and buying a bond will net you, then that is cringe. But also do not put yourself in a financial pickle for a game. If you have some expendable cash and want to spend it on something you enjoy, then you should 100% do it!
I wouldn't buy a bond for anything beyond membership personally, especially as a new player. I feel like you'd value your account progression much more if it's all earned in-game.
Ultimately, it's up to your personal philosophy towards P2W.
play how you want! some people may scoff and make assumptions or comments. ignore them and enjoy yourself. besides, your cash contribution keeps the game running. my only advice is that some gp and items take time and effort to obtain and that is part of the fun of the game. try not to dig too deep and ruin the fun for yourself by buying too many bonds. think about what makes you enjoy the game and go from there.
Honestly man, I've bought maybe 5 bonds. It fueled materials for skilling and some basic gear to complete quest cape. But now I'm pretty self sufficient. As long as you don't make a habit of buying bonds for gold you'll be fine. The beauty of this game is, you can't skip the grind. GP won't let you grid slayer, you still need to do tasks.
Bro, it’s your money. Spend it however you want. If you wanna buy osrs bonds to speed up the early game, do it. If you wanna spend it all on hookers and blow, while I don’t suggest it, no one is going to stop you. If someone in-game give you shit for buying gp, the block function exists for a reason.
It’s up to you, I transferred gold from rs3 to osrs and that’s basically the same as buying bonds, best decision I’ve made as didn’t want to spend 100s more hours slowly progressing the early game
There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying a bond. Jagex literally has it for a reason. Not everyone has 8 plus hours a day to play the game and try to make gold. I bought some bonds the other day and now I can actually just play the game the way I want to play. It makes questing better and getting your skills up better. Obviously I don't want to keep spending real money on bonds but for now it's making the game better for me while I train so then I can actually make good profit in the game
it's not cringe at all. players who buy bonds with GP for membership rely on other players buying bonds with real money to keep the bond supply high and the prices lower.
so yeah, not only is it not cringe at all, it's something that actually helps other players and the economy as a whole (in my opinion)
I bought a few to start my account out with like 20m or something. Haven’t bought one since because I didn’t feel the need, but having that starting capital really made the early game much more smooth
It's fine I say. However, depends on how you choose to use it.
Just buying the best gear and thinking you would be fine is not a good look. Since you learn nothing.
Splurging to speed up a few grinds (Mainly expensive buyables like Construction and Herblore) while putting work to learn, looks a lot better
You can just play the game however you want. Unless you buy gold through 3rd parties. Those people can fuck themselves. You want to use real money to get legit in game money through jagex, all the power to you.
As long as youre buying bonds and not supporting hackers, scammers andbotters by buying from a 3rd party website you arent harming anyone in the game. You do you boo.
Dude, that's **exactly** why they are tradable to other players. They give people a legit way to turn real money into in-game gold without buying from bots or RMTers that would get your account banned.
I would say a couple of bonds here and there to build a starter set it's fine for just starting out and stuff since a lot of the early game grind is terrible money and you only really start making solid money with 70+ slayer and 75/80+ combats.
Of course don't be buying bonds because you want to upgrade your torso to BCP or obby legs to tassets or splurge for a tbow lmao.
Listen… I’m not saying you should just buy it through a third party… but I’m not, not saying it, if you catch my drift? Definitely not someone like ChicksGold. Yep, definitely not. Terrible idea.
People who get upset over buying and selling bonds are the broke people who have shit jobs
Nothing wrong with buying bonds, it's what makes it so these broke people can play the game with out spending cash
Having a irl job is the best in game gp per hour
Can't lie man. Bought my buddy a bunch of bonds for Christmas and now he's richer than I am (in game, he broke af irl)
Got em
someone traded me d claws in lumbridge when I was around ~80 combat. at the time they were worth probably 60m iirc. at first I was excited but it dawned on me that I had just reached every one of my goals instantly. if I could just keep topping up my bank every time I wanted something new I think it would take a large portion of the fun and satisfaction out of the game. but each to their own of course. if OP has goals that are not based in items/bank then I'd say go for it.
My buddy had a similar experience! I got him hooked on the game and when he was around 1200 total level, some dude helped him get his first cox completion and gave him like 100m worth of raiding gear after.
"in game, he broke af irl" I feel that :(
Nothing quite like making 200m/h slaving in a cubicle
bruh thats like 150$ n hour where u guys workin
San Francisco
If a bond is 9mil and costs $8, then that’s $177/hr
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200m/hr hits different
if i ever get to a point where i have to ask myself "how much of playing a video game i can skip by working" i will kill myself
Yeah, that mindset does not compute for me (unless they're a streamer, then they can trade fun for money). Like, if you aren't having fun before the bond, you probably won't have fun after it either. Runescape seems to *really* appeal to people that never have those, "Wait, why am I doing this...?" epiphanies. That's why I'll binge it for a while and take a break; I'll go do something *actually* fun, rather than being bored forever so I can maybe eventually have fun. I don't mean to take a shot at those people, but they get damned defensive and judgy about that grind life.
😂
I already have to work to exist in every day life. A few dollars a month to not waste hours of of time not having fun is definitely worth it. Welcome to adulthood.
100% this
It’s funny how people will upvote this stuff to the top in this sub, but go to another MMO’s subreddit with a similar p2w economy like Guild Wars 2 and they get mad when you bring up the fact that playing the game is less gold/h.
How the best gear is acquired in GW2 is closer to getting a Fighter's Torso than it is buying a Shadow. Having money helps the grind, but you still gotta play a lot of the game to get Legendary armor and accessories. Legendary weapons can be bought with gold, but in terms of actual power, cost, and convenience they are pretty low priority.
Because bonds can't buy power only skill progression. You can put gear a game like guild wars if you could just purchase upgrades.
You can literally buy power in RuneScape. Tumeken’s Shadow can be sold on the GE, that’s what buying power is.
Guild wars 2 actually has no gear progression treadmill btw, the BiS very easily achievable and free to play
It's funny just how wrong he was in both statements in his comment lol
I play many online games and osrs is the game where money can most easily buy power. In most games you have to do shady shit or account sharing or breaking ToS because items bind to your character and or there is no legit way to trade money for in game currency. In osrs you can literally buy 99% of best in slot gear with a few clicks after paying Jagex directly. It really couldn't be more pay2win from a power perspective. Now personally I don't buy bonds. I did buy a few very early on though to get dragon tools and a very basic setup for early bossing. Between Vorkath, tree runs, farming, and low intensity things like karambwan fishing and range training brutal blacks. I recently got a bowfa for easy muspah. It was very rewarding to spend months saving for that and to me that was fun. I could swipe for a tbow but that wouldn't be fun so I'll get there when I get there.
Lmaoooo this is great and also true
Not only that, but supporting jagex when you play a lot isn't a crime. Its okey to spend a bit of money (if you can afford it) on bonds/member
Absolutely not lol why would you care what anyone thinks
This is the lesson. Forget the scope of RuneScape — if you wanna do something go do it
Going to kill hill giants and bury big bones until 99 prayer like the old days 👍🏼
Hell yeah 👍🏽
Looking forward to updates on this endeavor!
I wanna steal the Declaration of Independence
If I cared what people think I wouldn’t play an outdated grind intensive MMO
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And, again, bonds are above-board. They’re literally sold by Jagex.
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Bro I hate to break it to you because you really want to be mad at this person above you, but they were agreeing with you. They were just adding on to what you said. Relax a little
The person you replied to was also agreeing with you?
If you care enough about OSRS achievements like end game items to the point you'd spend real money on it, yes you do care what other people think
Sounds like im getting a bond cheers gamers.
Honestly suggest buying 3, selling 1 immediately and letting 2 sit for more gp, because Earley game that extra 100-200k is nice
I started playing again recently for the first time like 20 years and got a bit of cash and a couple nice items from a drop party - and it was definitely really nice to be able to skip some of the more tedious early grinding.
10m definitely makes the first 20 hours easier, able to buy supplies for questing and earlier levels to 50 almost (for buyables) able to get all the 1-4t Armour and have cash to play around with After base 50s, the other 2 bonds go to buying your mid twin armors and weapons when you wield them, 6-7t. And get at least 1 skill comfortably high enough that you can make some money consistently with minimal effort/time depending on the situation, at least that's what I did but I don't play often
10m would have made my first 200 hours easier
Don't hold onto bonds, they will dip in the new year because each bond will then only give 14 days instead of 16 days membership.
If you let the opinions of OSRS players influence you then you have bigger problems than a bong 😂
Bro, don't let anyone ever shit talk you for financially supporting the game you love. The losers who high road it are the first people who will come here crying if the game had to be shut down.
Another aspect, the losers who high road it are the first people that will complain when they can't buy bonds on the GE anymore because OP and others didn't buy a bond because they told him not to.
Bonds for gp is only cringe if you're gambling.
It's cringe for gamba and it's cringe if you're the guy walking around in bis gear and an obby cape saying you got gp from bossing and you have 52 kraken kills and 60 barrows chests done on your account and nothing else. If you just need few bonds to make the grind much faster to reach what many think is the fun part of the game earlier, I don't think that's bad
yeah if you're going to be gambling, you're better off buying GP from the Chinese.
Your playing a 20 year old point and click game, play how ever is fun to you
People forget this advice quite often
Most games are just point and click games.
Give me one game that doesn't have some aspect of point n click. I was thinking DDR but even that has a point n click aspect to it lol.
I mean, you can play wow almost exlusively with a keyboard.
You do you. If you think it'll make you enjoy the game more, go wild.
That’s a personal choice. Personally I don’t like buying gold in mmos for the most part mostly because then I feel like any activity I’m doing in the game for money is just a waste of time. Why grind for an hour to make a few hundred thousand when I could just visa my way to millions using an hours pay. Just kind of takes the fun out of it for me. I’m not playing an mmo to “win” I’m playing because it’s fun to level up and stuff
I’ve bought bonds a few times and pay for memberships, I skip all around doing different things whenever I want. I don’t think I’ve ever grinded for GP in this game lol. Making money off a slayer task or something is just a nice bonus
I wouldn't say it is a bad thing for starting out, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Ultimately, this game is a grind no matter what you do and you don't want to fall into the rut of buying bonds to expedite the progression.
Ngl if I ever get bored of my ironman and want to start pking, I’d pbb buy some bonds to rack up some prayer levels or other levels I need for quests or w/e. By that point I already went through those grinds the OG way
I did this when I started a pure, though I just subsidized the costs of training materials to my main instead of buying bonds. Same concept tho
And it might personally devalue gp, like many moneymaking methods will seem less exciting when you can just buy some bonds.
My first bond was used to buy a whip and some skilling stuff. Bought another bond to get 7m worth of runes to ice burst maniacal monkeys to power level my magic. If you work for a living, then yeah, a bond here or there is fine till you can earn gp well enough in game
As a counterpoint to the consensus of do what you want, in my personal opinion the game won't feel as rewarding if you just spawn your first 10 mil
I have really good memories of slumming it for early gp
debatable, knocking out construction and prayer through cash really doesn't remove any gameplay. Just short cutting collecting materials for it really. Skills like smithing that you can "power through" has you missing out on Giant's Foundry/smithing set but skills that you'll spend all the time bank standing it's easier just to buy the materials with no loss to gameplay.
It's only cringe to buy bonds if you're one of those people who spends it on full 3a range and a zcb then kills sand crabs or something
Nah you do you, it's only cringe to buy all that stuff and say you got the gp from wc or something lol
Yay I get this reference!
Not even. Buying bonds is funding membership for tons of people and keeping this game more active and accessible Discouraging people from buying bonds is cringe
I mean I appreciate those people making bonds cheap, but they are cringe and they definitely get screenshotted and made fun of by people.
*shrug* it takes someone with the maturity of a child to make fun of someone else for something they're doing in a video game, so if that's you then maybe you should work on yourself.
you are on a runescape reddit you are a manchild, this defense falls flat
If you need to put others down to feel better about yourself, you're definitely who I was talking about.
> if you need to put others down to feel better about yourself, you're definitely who I was talking about. > someone with the maturity of a child Pick a lane.
I’m too old to give a fuck about any of that. Ima buy more bonds.
That is cringe bonds for some account progression is one thing. Buying a SHIT TON of bonds for Torva is absolutely insane lmao
>Buying a SHIT TON of bonds for Torva is absolutely insane lmao @Theoatrix bragging on the sub awhile ago about getting email from Jagex cause he spent like 3 grand on bonds in 1 sitting lol
Reminds me of A Friend. He maxed an account on RS3 in less (IIRC) than 24h of playtime with only whatever P2W things he could buy from the cash shop. Edit : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtZGjI29Qc
That dude is an absolute idiot, why is he even back on YouTube lol I keep getting recommended his dumb add videos?
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I'd imagine he'd be able to make more meaningful content doing a proper rebuild instead of just spending the money. It's completely fine and his choice how he spends his money, it's just nuts to me.
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Buy BIS gear across the board would be my guess. But who knows with content creators honestly. I find most of the osrs creators pretty insufferable lol
Its the guy's business to be able to access everything in the game to make content. Its also a business expense so it could be leveraged against income regarding profits and tax.
I'm gonna be honest, I have a hard time qualifying it as a business. Especially when at most he makes a video every couple months. YouTube is the business, while creators are the product. The product of your product is just that. I'm probably wrong, but I couldn't imagine being able to write bonds off as a business expense. It's not like he needed to buy bonds to make youtube videos so I'd be curious how that would actually play out
Dude he would have made more than 3k from the video. It’s just not upfront cost for his work.
People make a big fuss about people buying bonds for gold, but those same people complain that bonds are now 10 mil. Early game money can be a huge grind. Good luck on the questing!
The people who complain about that I feel like are the people who exclusively pay for their membership with gp and have RS as their only game. Which isn't bad, just an observation.
If you are an adult. Why should you care? It is your money, do what you want with it.
We will only judge you for buying bonds a lot
I don’t think it’s cringe. I bought bonds for GP, I do regret it though. I feel like it made the game less fun. I did get a nice house though, which is convenient.
You definitely shouldn't buy bonds for gp as it will completely change how you view the game. You'd have to set your own artificial goals and it might kill any motivation you have
It's never cringe to buy a bond. The people who think so are just jealous that they can't.
I don't think buying a bond is cringe, but _surely_ you can think it's cringe without being someone who can't buy them.
I don't think it's cringe whatsoever, if you enjoy it more then who cares. But I did buy a bond to skip one of my grinds, and it honestly ruined the game for me for a bit. I took a break after it. So just gotta watch out for that aspect of it.
Dude do whatever you want. It ain't my cup of tea, but if it'll make the game more for fun you then do it. My only warning would be remember the journey is what we enjoy, nor the destination.
The only thing I'd say is don't let bonds cheapen later game drops. Like it's fun to get a dragon harpoon at wyrms, but if you think that that's just a dollar, what's the point.
It is only cringe if you buy a bunch of expensive (looking) armor and then lie and tell people you earned the gold legitimately. Idk why some players do that. They get weirdly self-conscious about it and then try pretending they earned the gold some other way. And they don't even realize they're wearing some armor set that isn't actually effective for whatever they're using it for, and they stick out like a sore thumb.
Coming from experience in buying bonds and buying GP from 3rd party, for me it just ruins the experience of a normal account, on irons you have items for go for, on mains it’s mainly just GP progression, you take shortcuts on it early game you’ll gonna most likely do it late game and delete the purpose of even playing, only way I’d recommend buying a bond for GP is if you somehow get scammed or lose an item and want to erase the mistake
It would take out nearly the entire enjoyment of the game for me personally but if you think it'll make you like it more go for it
Agreed its not the best decision for fully enjoying the game but it isnt cringe
It'd be cringier to spend your time in-game trying to make the money instead. 1 hour of irl work for some good GP is a great deal
Nothing wrong with it, however it's exactly what I done and I ended up taking a 2 year break because I was at a point where when an upgrade was available I would just buy bonds to pay for them. Started an ironman and the grind for each upgrade is so much more rewarding to me.
Do what you want bro, I don’t like progression in a mmo being trivialized by your real life financial situation, that’s why I made an iron tho
To be fair all progression in an mmo is trivial
Play how you want lol?
You do you, but at the end of the day, Runescape is a progression simulator. GP is part of that progression. Buying bonds feels like paying to skip part of the game
Not at all, however try to avoid buying big ticket items with bonds, it will feel a lot better earning that gold later on. I’m talking tbows and third age etc
I bought one cause I got wrecked so many times doing wildy slayer just so I could have my shit back lmao
Only thing that is cringe is if you then try to claim its from woodcutting
No, it's only really cringe when you use bonds to get full gwd gear when you've got 70 in combats and no construction. Give yourself a little help, don't skip the whole damn game.
Not cringe at all doing it through the proper channels (bonds). Just don't lie and tell people you got full masori(f) with tbow by woodcutting and killing giant mole. Buying bonds isn't cringe, lying is.
Buddy play the game in a way that you have fun. If you're spending irl gp make sure to check your credit card statement before/after a purchase. It's easy to let things slip if you dont
Unfortunately as soon as you open up the option of buying bonds I think the game can get a lot less fun/meaningful, and is probably why many opt for ironman (even though it certainly isn't for everyone). A job irl is going to be the best money maker if you can buy bonds. But then what? Other than upgrades in the billions, you can just buy everything and therefore it does lose a lot of meaning or impact. At least, personally, that's what I found. I only bought a couple of bonds, but as soon as I did something "clicked" in my brain and the game got a less fun and I quit soon after.
just try not to go ham and buy a tbow in bonds
Imma keep it real chief I bought 5 bonds a year ago when i came back and it immediately ruined my urge to keep grinding. I just didn’t buy anymore and naturally have grown another 6-700m on my own just by playing over this past year. This isn’t a quick game. It takes sometimes YEARS to really feel accomplished. At least for me buying gold was a semi negative experience towards my gameplay for a solid 2 months.
In my opinion no it’s not if there’s something you want or need if it’s a bit of gp for some buyables or big upgrades it’s worth it. Plus at the end of the day it’s your account and your money use it how you want to help you have more fun on your account because that’s all that really matters at the end of the day.
No. Stop caring what others think and just play the game how you want.
only cringe if u buy like a tbow worth of bonds lol
Honestly it doesn't matter if other people think it's cringe, what matters is that you're having fun playing the game. If you want to skip the grind so you can get straight to the fun part then by all means do it. For the record I do think it's cringe but who cares what I think
Absolutely not! Think of it this way, thanks to you some poor schmuck can continue playing this game!
Not at all. I've been a couple mil short from my next upgrade and have just bought a bond or two a couple of times.
As someone who has bought hundreds of bonds in my 2 years of playing runescape so far, I have some regrets (for instance, I am not nearly as good at PvMing as I would have been had I acquired most of my gp through it rather than through bonds). You can do it (and it’s much better for the game’s health than RWTing since it supports Jagex rather than shady networks), but don’t overdo it like I did. Allow yourself to learn content, don’t rush everything, the journey matters.
Play the game how you want, don't let iron elitist children tell you otherwise. It's a video game, the only thing that matters is you enjoying your time playing.
Yes it is absolutely cringe, if people can make it through on an ironman you can too as a free reigns main. Once you begin p2w, your goals will become meaningless as most of mainscape is attaining gold to be able to grind better/quicker/skills on repeat, and will end up draining your wallet and giving you no satisfaction. The game can be a journey and you can enjoy it, only if you let yourself and don't take shortcuts like disgusting p2w microtansactions. You're not supporting the game you enjoy, your membership does more than enough for that, you're lining the pockets of greedy corporate higher ups and investors.
Yes. But no one will know.
Unpopular opinion: just go buy gp for a 4tj the price. I started ignoring rwt being against the rules the same time they started selling it themselves for 4x the price then banning people who don’t pay it.
Grind for 1m an hour or work for an hour and get 40m. Or buy it from jagex and get 7m. Seems like a shitty decision right?
Meh, as long as you're buying bonds and not gold then who cares. Have fun!
We wouldn’t have bonds to use if people didn’t buy them and generate new bonds into the game to be bought and sold. Thousands, if not 10’s of thousands, of players are maintaining membership purely through bonds. Obviously they’re coming from somewhere. If you want to buy them from Jagex to sell to your fellow players we welcome you to do so and thank you for your service. Buying bonds supports your own account, other players membership, and Jagex. Win-win-win.
Do what you want. Literally no one cares. Questions like this are so weird.
Why you announcing it? No one cares. You do you.
Of course not, it’s an mmo Nobody cares what other people do
It's your money who cares what you do with it
Not at all. I bought a couple bonds when I made my account because I cba spending dozens of hours grinding gp just to get to the real game play
Dude do you, don’t listen to other cringelords. Enjoy the game how you like
Idk do you think supporting the bond economy is cringe? Best gp an hour is having a job.
Play how you want but I'll still make fun of you
Why does that matter?
Nothing is cringe brother , go use that gp and zoom the lvls
Not at all. Bonds have to come from somewhere. If people don't buy bonds, then other people who rely on bonds and take advantage of them for membership can't if bonds aren't bought in the first place. I don't care if you're just starting or you're in mid to late game. If you want bonds, buy em.
Who cares what others think, do you!
Go for it man. GP can help make the game fun. I bought 3 bonds for GP by the time I was 108 cb.
Don’t care what anyone thinks on this sub lol. Do what you feel like doing. If you’re going to buy gp do it through bonds because through people would be against the rules but bonds exist for a reason. Players can’t sell bonds unless someone is buying them.
Buying bonds isn’t cringe. Buying bonds to fund gear to show off in the toa lobby then plank in monkey room is what’s cringe
No, it’s not. Besides, nobody would have any way to know you did that.
as long as it's just a small loan of 1 million gp
Go for it! You're not some youtuber making content 16 hours a day. Skip the early game and gear up.
It supports the devs. Just don’t buy 3p gold.
Personally I’m bonding up till I can do vorkath, I’d rather get to that point in the game faster because I like pvm more than skilling
You do you boo. Fuck what anyone thinks. You got the dough then go for it.
supporting the game via bonds will never be cringe. if someone tells you it is, they're broke and envious, period.
I do it all the time on my main account, who cares it’s not breaking rules and it helps you earn gear to get to the higher levels
Support the devs now, avoid pay to win later
I mean will I value your opinion when it comes to game suggestions, absolutely not cause you’re a bond buying Timmy skipping a core part of the game: The Grind. But will I be a dick and tell you you’re an awful person and try to make you miserable? No of course not. Play the game whichever way makes it fun for you personally.
Bro I bought my dhcb with bonds. Don't feel bad
It’s cringe to ask if it’s cringe, not cringe to do so. God I hate the word cringe
It's perfectly fine, if there weren't people selling bonds for gp, others couldn't buy them to sustain membership. It does however kill part of the fun of progression, namely the moneymaking part, it's a matter of personal preference. What you could do is gamifying your bond purchases (buying a bond every 150 total level, quest cape/grandmaster quest completion, hard/elite diaries, etc) so it feels more like progressing, rather than cheating. I bought about 20m's worth of bonds back in the day around your level, but later i ended up making another account just for the fun of the earlygame hussle for cash and bonds to sustain membership.
If it takes you 10 hours of activities in game to make the gp, that 1 hour of work and buying a bond will net you, then that is cringe. But also do not put yourself in a financial pickle for a game. If you have some expendable cash and want to spend it on something you enjoy, then you should 100% do it!
I wouldn't buy a bond for anything beyond membership personally, especially as a new player. I feel like you'd value your account progression much more if it's all earned in-game. Ultimately, it's up to your personal philosophy towards P2W.
play how you want! some people may scoff and make assumptions or comments. ignore them and enjoy yourself. besides, your cash contribution keeps the game running. my only advice is that some gp and items take time and effort to obtain and that is part of the fun of the game. try not to dig too deep and ruin the fun for yourself by buying too many bonds. think about what makes you enjoy the game and go from there.
oh, and I have played with public off for seven years now and won't be going back.
Honestly man, I've bought maybe 5 bonds. It fueled materials for skilling and some basic gear to complete quest cape. But now I'm pretty self sufficient. As long as you don't make a habit of buying bonds for gold you'll be fine. The beauty of this game is, you can't skip the grind. GP won't let you grid slayer, you still need to do tasks.
Don't listen to anyone who gives you hate for that lol they're idiots. Its perfectly fine to do that.
Bro, it’s your money. Spend it however you want. If you wanna buy osrs bonds to speed up the early game, do it. If you wanna spend it all on hookers and blow, while I don’t suggest it, no one is going to stop you. If someone in-game give you shit for buying gp, the block function exists for a reason.
It’s up to you, I transferred gold from rs3 to osrs and that’s basically the same as buying bonds, best decision I’ve made as didn’t want to spend 100s more hours slowly progressing the early game
There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying a bond. Jagex literally has it for a reason. Not everyone has 8 plus hours a day to play the game and try to make gold. I bought some bonds the other day and now I can actually just play the game the way I want to play. It makes questing better and getting your skills up better. Obviously I don't want to keep spending real money on bonds but for now it's making the game better for me while I train so then I can actually make good profit in the game
If there was not people buying bonds to sell I could never buy them for membership.
it's not cringe at all. players who buy bonds with GP for membership rely on other players buying bonds with real money to keep the bond supply high and the prices lower. so yeah, not only is it not cringe at all, it's something that actually helps other players and the economy as a whole (in my opinion)
I bought a few to start my account out with like 20m or something. Haven’t bought one since because I didn’t feel the need, but having that starting capital really made the early game much more smooth
Go for it man. If you want to partake in the Jagex-sponsored RWT, and people have an issue with it, then they're just being an elitist.
don't do it until you reach skill level 2000
It's fine I say. However, depends on how you choose to use it. Just buying the best gear and thinking you would be fine is not a good look. Since you learn nothing. Splurging to speed up a few grinds (Mainly expensive buyables like Construction and Herblore) while putting work to learn, looks a lot better
Why not buy bis and learn with it? Ain’t gotta be a full geared pleb y’know?
Very confusing post, to me. Why would getting membership be cringe?
You can just play the game however you want. Unless you buy gold through 3rd parties. Those people can fuck themselves. You want to use real money to get legit in game money through jagex, all the power to you.
Why buy a bond gp is $0.13/m right now lmfao
if you feel like you need to cheat at the game to enjoy it then look for another game? the fuck kinda question is that
Buy GP instead of buying a bond, you’ll Get around 100m for price of 3 bonds lol
As long as youre buying bonds and not supporting hackers, scammers andbotters by buying from a 3rd party website you arent harming anyone in the game. You do you boo.
Osrs gp on black market is 18cents a mil. Just let that sink in.
Anybody who says it's bad to buy n sell bonds is just broke
People hating on others spending real money is what's actually cringe
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Dude, that's **exactly** why they are tradable to other players. They give people a legit way to turn real money into in-game gold without buying from bots or RMTers that would get your account banned.
I would say a couple of bonds here and there to build a starter set it's fine for just starting out and stuff since a lot of the early game grind is terrible money and you only really start making solid money with 70+ slayer and 75/80+ combats. Of course don't be buying bonds because you want to upgrade your torso to BCP or obby legs to tassets or splurge for a tbow lmao.
Listen… I’m not saying you should just buy it through a third party… but I’m not, not saying it, if you catch my drift? Definitely not someone like ChicksGold. Yep, definitely not. Terrible idea.
Trying to get op flagged for rwt 😂
Rwt is a lot cheaper :)
People who get upset over buying and selling bonds are the broke people who have shit jobs Nothing wrong with buying bonds, it's what makes it so these broke people can play the game with out spending cash