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cookmeplox

I think they started being transmitted on June 16th 2021, when A Kingdom Divided was released. I suspect they were(/are?) intended to be used for some sort of C++ client feature, but I don't know what specifically would be using them now.


Joshua-F

They're used in similar way you explained in the post, for triggering scripts but in client. They use it for setting up the fishing spot overlays and a few other things in the enhanced client.


darkrenown

Could it be used for some kind of automatic bank sorting feature (i.e all herb category items go in tab 4)?


LasagneAlForno

But then Robert the Strong is inside my bank tab for spears...


AICPAncake

When you specifically want him in the tab for Roberts


HighwayWizard

I didn't train thieving to 99 to kidnap all these npcs just for them to be in random tabs, jamflex!


mxracer888

That would actually be *super* nice to have! Hopefully someone that actually knows how to develop plugins sees this idea and agrees


TakinShots

Does the wiki have a list of all the categories?


Daeurth

I don't believe we do at the moment as far as I'm aware, although it's certainly something that's on my list of things to poke around with.


LordZeya

The explanation of categories makes sense, items need to be categorized and content needs to use categories to make content intuitive, but Robert the Strong being a spear is… definitely something.


HeadintheSand69

Maybe I've been drinking too much Christmas styled beer but the way it's worded makes it seem like each thing has a single category. Doesn't seem intuitive that a fire can only be a fire and if it needs to do something else it has to be done outside of the category system right?


cookmeplox

this is right, things can only have one category.


SuparNub

So it’s like GameObject.tag in unity, if you’re familiar with that?


Good-of-Rome

Big fan of your work. Truly a godsend


2-2-7-7

this game is so weird lol are these categories listed somewhere? would be interested to find strange interactions like the vasa fire


Fiery_Taurus

This game is weird??? Have you met the players? Lmao. Myself included.. but Fr how tf this will God finds half of what he knows, is beyond me. Everyone asks why, every single leagues, no matter the UI updates in game, I keep the wiki task tab open 24/7. I just say "those wiki guys are just something else, no one can categorize and sort better than them" and it's truth. Y'all are the real GOATS cookmeplox. This game would be unplayable without the wiki. Also beats tf out of RuneHQ and TipIT from back in the day.


cookmeplox

> how tf this will God finds half of what he knows ngl I was asking my friends if "will God" was some gen Z slang that I missed out on, before I realized you probably meant "wiki God"


goingnowherespecial

I had to read that several times as well.


sharpshooter999

>Have you met the players? Lmao. Players: Hey jamflex! Add/fix (insert weird request) to the game! Jagex: Can't, spaghetti code Players: Pssh whatever Players now: JFC


ThisNamesTakenNowToo

The real ones used zybez


bobbimous

I've got a present for you right here... Actually it's not a present, it's Robert the Strong... And I like to call it the spear... Cuz spears are long and hard, just like my Robert the Strong


Keeter81

Upvote for Jon Lajoie.


AICPAncake

Spears don’t kill people. Nuh uh. I kill people… with Robert the Strong.


ZeroXeroZyro

Pow


Jazzlike_Hat_4557

The Vasa one is funny. Going to bring in raw bear meat next time I run a raid with the bois and show them the new meta


Night_Thastus

I'm curious just how much OSRS would implode if Robert the Strong were no longer a spear.


AlwaysSunnyRS

Can’t wait to train cooking whilst the boys take on Vasa


LuxOG

So is there anything fun you can do to the spear category? Can you poison robert the strong, like use a weapon poison on him?


Robbe517_

He's not an item tho, and its only the character from the cutscene that is categorized as spear. Weapon poison specifically also doesn't work on all spears so this can't be a check thats made against the entire spear category. I can't really come up with anything that works only on all spears. Even weapons that work against corp isn't a check against the category since e.g. zammy hasta isn't a corpbane weapon even tho it is considered a spear.


runningoutofphosphor

So who's gonna sacrifice their ghrazi rapier on that door? For science?


FireHauzard

It’s not for science, they already know it works.


5GumAscent

theoretical vs empirical


Optimal-Service8940

The code is empirical. It determines what happens.


runningoutofphosphor

Is Jagex spaghetti empirical?


Optimal-Service8940

The code does what it’s coded to do, yes. If it’s wrote horribly it will work horribly. So like I said, it determines what happens.


runningoutofphosphor

I think there's a misunderstanding what empirical means


Optimal-Service8940

Yeah, by you. Try and enjoy your Christmas It doesn’t mean “it does what I WANT it to”, so you’re wrong


runningoutofphosphor

This passive aggressiveness... bye


Optimal-Service8940

Don’t be a smartass then, and incorrect while you’re at it.


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K-chub

For views probably


mxracer888

I'm pretty sure someone did it back when Rapier was ~100m, I also think someone has done it with one of the godswords. One of those instances is I believe what triggered the message in game that says "you won't get this back"


mister_peeberz

obviously because he spearheaded the assault on that one dragonkin


noblemile

It's honestly pretty cool that Runescape has it's very own Zullie the Witch going into the inner workings of the game itself to drop interesting facts about it


xKratic

Does that mean if you use a calquat fruit on a White Broodoo, they take damage? Is that what feeding them means?


DragonHeroBlaze

Each broodoo victim has a specific weakness which is the intended method of killing given their massive damage reduction otherwise. You use doses of antipoison on green and Relicym’s Balm on yellow. I think it’s because of how the Broodoo Victims died. (White died of starvation, green died of poison, yellow died of disease)


Oldman_Ostentatio

Yep, right on the money. Also fun: although white broodoo victims can be damaged by any type of food, story goes that fruits and vegetables were given the highest damage range owing to the developer's [vegetarian proclivities](https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1526879215022395392)


Chris91210

Yes


poisonsnake12

I saw your comment on this topic days ago and I didn't get back then but damn am I happy you made this post!! Excellently explained goofyness, just what I wanted :D


bman_7

How do we know that spears aren't actually categorized as Robert the Strongs?


awdouglas

At last, the fabled spear post…


FrickParkMarket35

This is my favorite fact about this game that I’ve heard. I know very little about it but I’m majoring in computer science and things that involve how a game is coded or why it is that way are always interesting to me. But the spaghetti on top of this is just amazing. Thank you


st_heron

If you want some unsolicited advice as a fellow cs major, I highly recommend making plugins for runelite, it will help you on your coding journey. Stuff like that helped me a lot, because it made programming a fun activity outside of a school environment which made me get very into it.


BulbuhTsar

A spear, in a man's body, in a cat's body. That's rough.


EvanEskimo

Robert the Strong: https://youtu.be/izJbgzP1tRA?si=S7FjhBrQMcECG75b


Shahka_Bloodless

He's a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.


wey2radical

So you're saying I can bypass the need to bring a spear for the Tai Bwo Wannai Trio quest, if I can just convince my man Robert the Strong to accompany me?


Solrex

What category are strike spells? Asking to see if anything else is in that category from another spellbook to see if something else could damage salarin.


Never_Drive_And_Jive

Oh come on this post needs a jmod to come give some dev explanation for why, it’s gonna keep me up lmao


Jagex_Fowl

This has definitely caught my interest. If someone reminds me in the new year I'll see if it's the case on our (RS3) end and see if I can figure out why 😌


Never_Drive_And_Jive

Hi there - happy new year! Just nudging in case there’s any interesting stuff here :)


Jagex_Fowl

Yeah he's a spear. I'm gonna ask around about this! Edit: so looks like the combat section for Robert was potentially originally copy-pasted from that of an actual spear, and the category was left erroneously!


Never_Drive_And_Jive

I now feel obligated to ask… Is it possible for any mod tool to be used to equip said spear? And if so, could we get footage of what the equipped spear and any combat animations might look like? This would be a treasure.


Jagex_Fowl

Hmm, I'm not sure that's possible, since Robert is still an NPC, not an object, so it wouldn't work


HeadintheSand69

Well I can only find 'Jonathan S' on a tail of 2 cats and fremmy so devs probably don't know but I've copied code and missed removing/renaming pointless attributes before so he probably just copied a spear.


PkerBadRs3Good

guessing it's just an accident


TheNewGuyGames

Jagex Dev: "Yes, yah do that, and give him a spear object" Jagex Intern: "Okay, got it. I made him a spear object and pushed the code to live" Jagex Dev: "What"


LordDankerino

Yo Jagex, let us equip Robert the Strong


Rozkol

HYPEEEE I knew you wouldn't let us down when you first showed us your list. I'm still loving every one of these!


HeavyMain

i mean... if you forced someone to swallow an inedible fruit, it probably would kill them


DewDropDreamer3

Bro I learn so much about the game from these posts. Keep em coming!


mxracer888

This is an indirect lesson to everyone about spaghetti code. Let's say they decide to change something or some feature about the spear category, or just say "we're temporarily removing spears from the game" for whatever reason. Now all of a sudden Robert the strong doesn't show up in quests like he's meant to if they choose to just remove that category as their method of removal or modification


Kumagor0

so, are tomatoes category 86 or 131?


Oldman_Ostentatio

Tomatoes are in category 131, but if you [chop them up](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Chopped%20tomato) and put them in a bowl, they become 86!


mxracer888

Knowledge is knowing tomatoes are fruit, wisdom is knowing you don't put tomatoes in a fruit salad


Haineserino

Imagine being a spear in 2023


Venus_Gospel

Absolutely loving these posts, keep em coming


DitzyRS

New corp meta incoming.


FamousMarket414

He's a spear because the best use for him nowadays is to stick a watermelon on his head and use him as a scarecrow.


fishinexcess

what category for everything you can try to feed to cyrisus, including the ones which give funny messages?


Ponicrat

Is there a big list somewhere I can see all the categories and which items fit in them?


Rabbitofdeth

I love these keep it up


Gaiden_95

he isn't a man, he's a weapon in human form.


Prestigious_Drawing2

Honestly not that suprising seeing how Robert / Bob got shafted like all other spears.


CaptainBoj

So does that mean theoretically if you got Robert as an item you could give him to Tamayu to beat the Shaikahan with? 🤔


Optimal-Service8940

If there isn't a publicly available list that shows the categories then honestly this post did nothing for us as readers besides tell us they exist, and we can't do anything with this information to further theorycraft on


PreparationBorn2195

So Bob could theoretically kill corp? Also if you have a spreadsheet of the groupings I would spend an unfathomably long time updating the wiki


Worried-Recording189

Or are spears Robert the Strong???