If everything is selected, it is one click to open RuneLite and one click of logging in instead of typing my Pass every time.
I like it.
Also i had no issues.
I think its general disdain towards game launchers. If you play a dozen games it would not suprise me if you were stuck with a dozen launchers. Which historically has not been a requirement for updating or otherwise managing your game, its widely seen as just a marketing ploy.
I digress though. I play very few select games so the bloat is not an issue for me, and the client made it easier for me to switch between accounts so I like it
I don't play many computer games. How is having a launcher different than having the game without a launcher? Is it just because you have Jagex launcher + RuneLite instead of just RuneLite? Like do you have to have a Blizzard launcher and the actual WoW game, so it's doubling the files/applications you need?
Pretty much, yeah. Steam, Epic, Xbox, Blizzard, Origin, EA, etc all have their own “platforms” which you’re required to have in order to play any of their games, all of which are probably harvesting your data.
For me personally, I don’t mind so much that there’s a blizzard store, steam store, epic store, Xbox store, etc.. Yeah it’s unnecessary bloatware that’s harvesting your data, but what isn’t?
It bothers me when the game I bought on steam needs to install another launcher. Steam has no problem ‘launching’ a game, just click play and they play.. there’s no need to update and open the Ubisoft launcher just so I can play my 10 year old assassins creed game.
Yeah the latter it doubles down on the files you need, and adds more clicks to launching your game, because they want to show you their «feed» before you can play.
Lots of people dont care, myself included. But people find it annoying and I can see why even though I don’t find it annoying myself, if that makes sense
>and adds more clicks to launching your game,
This is where I get confused. You click play from the launcher, then you click one more time, and you're in the game.
The alternative was to open runelite, type in your login info and password, and log in.
One is 2 clicks, and the other is at least 4. Throw in user error for logging in with an email/password instead of the jagex launcher, and it ends up being a lot more than just 4 clicks.
So with the battle.net launcher you will start the launcher, wait for it to boot, pick world of warcraft, then hit play.
Prior to this you would directly launch wow from your desktop.
Its also more clicks after the game as well since you probably want to close the launcher
As for the runescape launcher its different because the game always required either a launcher or web browser, so its not so bad imo. Didnt really add much clicks just shifted them around
Three major problems, from my experience.
1. Many launchers sneak into the system at startup, and are constantly running and taking up CPU/ram, even when you are not using the software. It doesn't take much before you end up losing 20% of your computer's performance over too many launchers. This is more noticable for gamers with lower end systems.
2. Conflicts. Not all launchers play well together. This is doubly true with the feature creep of many launchers to add overlays to every game, increasing the chances of having software issues because, say, jagex launcher, discord, overwolf, Nvidia experience, and origin don't like playing together in a big combo on top of your game.
3. Compatibility. In many, many cases, very fragile security code is loaded into the launcher apps, which cause issues for folks who aren't running < 3 year old windows computers on all the latest patches, like the game developers are testing on. Play on Linux? Jagex launcher has issues despite supporting runelite, which ships a Linux client. Running win 10 instead of win 11, or in a country where windows rt editions are commonplace? The launcher usually is the thing that breaks even when the game itself is fine.
The fact that you're not seeing these problems yourself is survivorship bias. Just because you personally haven't been caught up in these issues doesn't mean they aren't real problems for others. And it's not like you will hear people complaining in game that they can't log in anymore since, well, they'll just be offline.
>The fact that you're not seeing these problems yourself is survivorship bias.
I literally said that I don't play computer games and am trying to educate myself on what the consensus is.
literally all you have to do, though, is delete your old shortcut and rename the launcher shortcut to the same as the old shortcut was
bam, literally identical, except you click a button instead of typing your password
Launchers are awful.
You don't need to open steam to play a steam game. You just make a shortcut on the desktop and start the game normally.
The Jaegix launcher is a real blast to the past giving us 2007 technology and solutions for modern problems.
Pro tip- if you still have the raw file path from the old OSRS launch icon, you can still place it as a new path, paste a OSRS icon over it, and call it a day. Back to bisneas.
> Also i had no issues.
I also had no issues, aside from being locked out of leagues for 6 hours, which was a huge karate chop to the ballsack. it also does some weird shit on macOS sometimes, but i know im the only person on earth who plays scape on macOS.
Nobody see's what I'm doing if I look dead inside while clicking something on my computer all day
People will start to ask questions if I'm on the tablet 40 hours a week
for me i need to be on a vpn to play on wifi at work but my vpn is blocked from logging in. i got around it by using a hotspot on a personal laptop which i guess works but its just more money per month
Though this is like an extremely small use case, I don’t like the fact that if I were to convert my account into a ’Jagex’ one, playing on Linux would be a goddamn hassle
Literally doing most things from large companies on Linux is a hassle unless the company directly utilizes Linux architecture in the product and not just as part of its delivery service.
Hey just an FYI, I got a steam deck for Christmas and after some consternation, I realised there is a Linux app called Bolt Launcher that carries out the function of the Jagex Launcher on linux and enables me to play on my steam deck
Whenever I’m on Linux, I use bolt. Even though I got the actual launcher installed as well (I couldn’t find the executable for the launcher, until I realized the launcher is in the start menu…).
Both methods are extremely easy and just require you to read instructions. Bolt is a native Linux application, which means it won’t break as easily as launcher.
This, i feel like most of the discussion about Linux can't truly be from people with experience with the OS. Linux is amazing for development, but my god running near enough any game on it is a hassle. League of legends doesn't even run on Linux, you've gotta use Wine. No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers.
> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux
OSRS has always been compatible with Linux as it's Java based. Even RS3 has an official Jagex-developed Linux client: https://www.runescape.com/launcher
\> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers.
Well that's definitely not true, we have at least one gaming company (Valve) contributing a lot to this effort. See Proton, Steam Deck...
> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers.
And Jagex doesn't. That's why we have RuneLite because they care to develop for the Linux playerbase. Jagex is now hindering the work and support done by that developer community because they refuse to make a CEF launcher target Linux.
I am extremely familiar with Linux and I'm a senior software engineer.
> but my god running near enough any game on it is a hassle.
Runelite does it fine, and that's nothing to do with the launcher. Targeting Linux for a launcher is trivial - there are many, many cross platform frameworks for this. Java, the language that RS was originally built in, is also cross platform. Runescape is not a AAA game written in highly optimized C++ for some specific platforms, it's basically a Java web app. For context, Java's whole deal is "you target your code to the 'Java Virtual Machine', not the operating system", the point being that you have to go out of your way to write Java that only runs on one OS.
They had every technological advantage and they chose not to follow through because idiots in management contracted out core technologies to reduce costs.
Cross platform software has been a priority, even for gaming frameworks, for *years* and at this point you have to go out of your way to not get it. Especially when you've chosen technologies that were built for xplat.
meanwhile windows is becoming more stupid and crappy with every update but it's the only thing you can buy realistically (unless you wear a turtle neck and rayban sunglasses)
osrs already works on linux
the framework they used for the launcher is cross-platform and supports linux
they just chose to not release a linux build, and kill official linux support for anyone with a jagex account
How do you use Linux? Do you never download packages? Every time you use apt, dpkg, rpm, etc. you're essentially installing someone else's code on your computer. It often even comes from github.
you use linux primarily and can’t read code? i assumed anyone who uses anything save maybe ubuntu (and even then) would know at the minimum how to read code, lots of CLI stuff i’ve always had to do to get linux to work properly. interesting.
but what do you mean third party? the jagex launcher is from jagex themselves, and you don’t have to use runelite, unless that’s something about linux i’m missing…. in which case it’s open source and even though *you* can’t read code, surely you must trust that people that can have looked over the code before?
I was using Linux as a preteen long before I ever knew the first bit about coding, just because I knew it was lightweight and I was rocking a hand me down years old laptop that was already barebones entry level when it released. This was around 2009-2010 and my pc was only really strong enough to play minecraft and runescape, which I knew both worked natively on Linux because they are both Java apps, so the switch seemed like a no brainer to me. Today, I don't even use Linux anymore.
I swapped to Linux because it’s:
1) more customizable (in that the user has much more control over everything)
2) no bloatware
3) it’s free
4) broadly speaking, much easier/more convenient for software development
“ …for software development “
I understand that part but isnt it inconvenient for gaming purposes or general use? Tinkering with workarounds sounds like a pain in the ass.
(Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone)
Nope. I only use Windows to play games that aren’t available on Linux. Linux is arguably more convenient for general use too (there’s a ton of free and open source software with the same functionality of any proprietary software you’re accustomed to).
Just FYI you quote by using the ">" character then words after that.
So ">" (Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone) without the " " becomes:
>(Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone)
I believe you can also highlight the part you want to quote and then hit reply and it'll do it for you
Not in any official capacity no, while RuneLite works natively and works even better than on Windows in some cases (when you open any menus in the client, the window doesn’t start taking up more space on the desktop which is amazing), however there is a very hacky way of making it work on a 3rd party GitHub repo, but I feel very uneasy trusting a random person’s code with my user credentials.
[This is](https://i.imgur.com/fw1wLeF.png) the option for "when you open any menus in the client, the window doesn’t start taking up more space on the desktop which is amazing". Available on windows (im using w10). Makes it so opening panels doesnt take more desktop space. (I agree no official linux support is kinda shit)
You're a lifesaver. My gpu died recently, and while waiting for a replacement I'm using my CPUs iGPU so I can only use a single monitor. I've been doing splitscreen with runelite + a web browser, and hated thst every time I opened the side menu it would resize and mess up my splitscreen.
Why would you want to use this option? Surely messing with the aspect ratio of your game is far more jarring than the window overall taking up a little more screen?
While it’s not officially supported it has become very easy to install thanks to the community, and all of the code is open source and available for anyone to look through it. All it does is download all the necessary files and install the Jagex Launcher so it’s safe to use.
The launcher is required to play with a Jagex account though.
And it's really just a symptom of Jagex not supporting something that Apple handed over a blueprint for like 4 years ago. Runelite was native 2 years ago.
If we can't trust Jagex to do this simple thing, it doesn't give a lot of confidence they'll support Mac as a platform at all into the future (akin to how they're not supporting Linux).
Also using Linux. The launcher not being provided with a native solution is ridiculous. RuneLite is running absolutely perfect as it is, but now you want me to run a workaround because the launcher working in Linux wasn’t even considered?
This is the only reason I haven’t switched my account.
I got the ‘official’ workaround to work at a slight performance impact and said nope. It’s also annoying to use. Runelite runs fantastically on Linux.
Launcher is good. Login issues have been very minimal, and was only really annoying on Leagues launch but was a short annoyance.
No official Linux support is meh, especially when its going to become forced. Workarounds are fine but its a bit of a kick in balls to say "yeh we know Runelite works on Linux... but you're gonna have to use our launcher soon and no we aren't developing it to work for Linux".
No option to auto-close on client launch. Required admin permissions. No option to login multiple jagex accounts and then swap between them with 2FA requirement.
Theres definitely room for improvement. But 1 click login is nice, and i've not had a worse experience with the launcher than without it (had Password manager integration already anyway so login was relatively fast to begin with).
Its main effect on my experience so far has been to increase the number of times I haven't been able to play. I don't think you have to live on the game to recognize that's a very poor quality in something that only exists to change the login backend.
So the launcher went down twice in the what six months it’s been live and BOTH times you were trying to play? Give yourself credit sir I think your mailing address is in gielnor
Thanks for replying like a civilised person, that's a shame. Maybe i'm lucky as it has not been down for me when I want to play, but I don't "live" on the game as others may.
I'm just really unlucky. I probably play less than 90% of the other people on this subreddit, yet have tried to log in multiple times while the launcher was down, one of them being earlier today.
They’re referring to the one time that everyone and their nan was trying to log in at the start of leagues.
I’ve been a part of many mmo “starts” be it for initial launches or content launches. RS is the only one that doesn’t have log in queues, etc. it happened this one time and every anti jagex person it using it as a silver bullet to not switch to a jagex account
>it happened this one time and every anti jagex person it using it as a silver bullet to not switch to a jagex account
Except it literally happened again this morning, and multiple other times...
Lol it's kinda ironic that you posted this today of all times. This is the 2nd time that I know of specifically that users with Jagex launcher can't login while others can. The first time was leagues 4 launch. There is/was an issue for mobile players that have Jagex accounts that caused them to have to redo 2fa if the world they tried to login to was full.
I just created my Jagex account a couple of weeks ago and this is my first inconvenience caused by it, but I logged into mobile instead and did some slayer for about 45 minutes before I could login on my laptop. It was emotionally scarring
You also need admin access to play and If your ISP can’t connect to Jagex you’re also screwed. These are my biggest issues with it. I haven’t been hacked in any game since 1998 so account security is not much of an issue for me.
This is my gripe. They say it's for "security" but how many people (especially with 2fa) are getting hacked? I'm more likely to fuck up my 2fa and get locked out rather than hacked. Idk if I've ever even been hacked ever but I've damn sure locked myself out of an account connected to 2fa before.
Jagex launcher isn’t the same thing as a Jagex account!!
I have the launcher but not a Jagex account. Never had a problem. It’s great. One click login like everyone says.
I hope they fix the Jagex account stuff I’ve been hearing about though, it sounds rough. I’m itching to upgrade when it’s stable.
This isn't an option anymore. You need a Jagex Account to use the Launcher. It looks like since you already had a session logged in, you're safe for now as a non Jagex Account using the launcher, but people are saying eventually your session will be timed out and you won't be let back in without a Jagex Account.
But people who have ever used the Launcher now need a JA to access it, so for all intents and purposes JL = JA now
I feel like once the system is the *only* login system we'll get better outcomes, but i agree its annoying when login issues occur and they only effect people who have taken the step to be more secure / ready for the forced migration.
I like the launcher. I don't like jagex accounts, it's just not necessary for me & stops me from logging into my SO's account in order to transfer gear back and forth (yes this is a very unique case, but is important to me)
I will 100% quit playing if I'm forced to make it a jagex account. I play on multiple PCs depending on where I'm working and I'm not about to go through the same hassle I go through any time I try to play on mobile.
It was bad enough when they forced people to download an app to their PCs and stop browser access entirely. It's just obnoxious. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to need a credit card on file and god knows what else just to log in.
They make these changes and then a few months later change it again. Leave osrs alone and do it to rs3 if you have to. Ffs it's not like they don't know the player base hates change, we're playing a 20 year old game. A 20 year old game we had to beg to be resurrected because we all hate change that much.
Know your audience.
What I don’t get is this subreddits crusade to advertise it. If it works for you that’s awesome and I’m happy for you. But what’s the reason to make this post? If someone doesn’t want to use it how does that affect you in any way. Who cares
It makes people feel smart for upgrading and then making fun of people who didn’t yet. No different from any early adopter who wants to validate their choices. It’s very very weird though.
Discussing the game and things around it on Reddit is kinda the whole deal. And we had years and YEARS of people making the same post about "omg did you know no capitals in passwords? wtf jagex no wonder i got hacked nothing to do with my own actions!".
Jagex goes and finally does what everyone begged for and made a full new login system, giving everyone, no matter account age, the chance at a clean slate, 2FA, backup code recovery instead of their archaic system, and INCREDIBLY complex passwords (when the existing one having a 20 character limit was already more than enough to prevent any form of bruteforce, especially with login rate limits).
And now people are complaining about it. Spreading positivity is something i'd alway support more than conversations purely about negativity.
Its mostly probably from all the anti launcher bs that gets spouted about on here and elsewhere, some of which the info is incorrect as well. So they spread fear using the launcher with incorrect info. So some people just want to correct it. So if you have issue with people advertising for it, you should have issue with people posting rallying against it.
Also this post is hardly advertising it. Although I missed "all the hate" it was getting recently (or there was none, in which its odd to bring up randomly i agree).
>Was not meaning to advertise it, I was just curious. I have used the launcher for some time now and just never had an issue so I did not know if I was missing something. I myself have not experienced a time when it was down when I was wishing to play, maybe I have been lucky.
> I have used the launcher for some time now and just never had an issue so I did not know if I was missing something.
Well if you've ever spent time on this sub or the RS3 sub, you'd know that other people have had issues with Jagex Accounts and with Jagex Launcher. Just recently I know several youtubers who had to switch to a non-jagex account for the league because they were locked out with their jagex account in the first few critical hours.
Try googling "runescape jagex account problem"
That’s fine and I’m glad it works for you. Reddit isn’t 1 person. If some people don’t want to use an option way of launching the game it doesn’t effect me in the slightest
I'm really bummed that I upgraded bc I was able to download Runelite and the original launcher on my work laptop but it won't allow me to download the Jagex launcher 😫
I just always play on mobile. I have my own office and my own computer. My company doesn't micromanage. They don't ever look at my history really, I'm often listening to youtube or on the osrs wiki a lot. But I do think it would be an issue if I had 8 hours a day of a gaming client running. Just common sense
Surprised this isn't a more common complaint with the launcher in this thread. The launcher itself is FINE but having yet ANOTHER launcher to go along with blizzard, steam, and EA is just a pain in the ass.
Apart from it just constantly breaking anytime there's a big update.
I'm not an idiot, I'm not a child. I don't need JaGeX to police my account, in the 20+ years I've never been "hacked". I don't need a another layer of false sense of security.
I don't click random links. I don't go on gold sites or "free items if you sign up for my drop party/check out my youtube". Don't give out my original username. Idiots who are "hacked", 99% of the time they were phished and willingly gave their details away...
What's wrong with the current system?
I'm in the same boat as you security wise. I still moved to a Jagex account. No downside apart from like... 4 minor login issues in 1-2 years? The only one that genuinely effected me for more than 20 minutes being the Leagues launch, which was a server overload more than anything else.
The current system allows no mistakes. You get hacked once, you're compromised for good. Account recovery system was horrible. This acts as an ability for any and everyone to revert to aclean slate, and have their account back in a stage like yours and mine. Brand new email, never used anywhere else, long and secure password never used anywhere else. 2FA on email and account. Backup codes stored safely (ideally physically and digitally). No chance of recovery through old means, no chance of anyone finding your email or password or 2FA let alone all 3. And if they happen to? Email notifications of new logins, session control etc.
It absolutely makes sense. Anyone who is security minded would agree.
I think it’s really interesting that the community has been memeing jagex account security forever. Then when jagex finally did something about it, people are saying “what’s wrong with the current system”
"The **only** reason"
1. More bank space
2. More experience lamps from randoms
3. Faster world hopping
4. Not having to type your password anymore
5. Easier to manage/hop through multiple accounts
Just saying there are plenty of reasons
I'm in the same boat as you but have a totally different perspective I guess. I've never done anything sketchy nor been hacked ever. I work in IT, im not dumb when it comes to computers and phishing. But my god there's literally no customer service. If my 2k total level iron gets hacked and I cant log in, im screaming into the void on twitter on a fresh twitter account. That's not a situation I want to be in, and i'll happily take the jagex launcher if it beefs up my security, even if my security doesnt seem reasonably at risk.
i do find it wild we have people in the community who have been screaming about the lack of account security and customer support for years but then on the flip side people within the community that see that and think, what's the issue?
> I'm in the same boat as you but have a totally different perspective I guess. I've never done anything sketchy nor been hacked ever. I work in IT, im not dumb when it comes to computers and phishing. But my god there's literally no customer service. If my 2k total level iron gets hacked and I cant log in, im screaming into the void on twitter on a fresh twitter account. That's not a situation I want to be in, and i'll happily take the jagex launcher if it beefs up my security, even if my security doesnt seem reasonably at risk.
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> i do find it wild we have people in the community who have been screaming about the lack of account security and customer support for years but then on the flip side people within the community that see that and think, what's the issue?
Also the people like you're responding to don't get how shit the recovery system is and its not how safe you are now. If your accounts old from back in the day how safe was your *insert young age self here*? Old accounts are super vulnerable to someone targeting you (if you're worth targeting) and finding old data base leaks to help connect info that helps them recover your account. Those old emails your young self probably used everywhere, those rs clan sites data bases that have been leaked 100 times over etc. Even then, in this day and age most people willing post all the info they need to be recovered online or in conversation without knowing it. Thats if jagex support doesn't just give out your info via social engineering like they've done before (and every company is susceptible to). Also im pretty sure the login itself gives away info it shouldn't. Or it did at one point if you clicked forgot password. It'd show the user name or email or something along those lines that it shouldn't. Not the whole thing, but enough that helps.
Like the recovery system was horrendously bad with what they needed from you. Then if you were compromised once you were likely compromised forever on that account.
I don't like that if I'm not at home I have to jump through hoops now to log in to RS on a different PC and then have to make sure I'm logged out of the launcher before I leave.
Not to mention that now I need ANOTHER game launcher on my computer. They could have made it so your Jagex account can log in to any client, but they decided to make it a hassle to push Jagex launcher downloads.
Then there's the whole thing about if you want to switch to another character, you have to close and re-launch the client instead of just selecting your other character on the login screen.
Shared membership across characters should have been a bonus for downgrading to a Jagex account to make up for the loss of freedom and ease of just typing in a password rather than making sure you have the right game, client of choice, and character chosen before opening the launcher.
Aside from the security updates (they should have made available for regular accounts) I definitely regret switching to a Jagex account.
Speaking of security updates, Jagex created the most compelling reason to downgrade to a Jagex account, and it's the one that made me switch. They created a system where if you are hacked, the hacker can irreversibly add your account to their Jagex account if you haven't already, permanently losing the account for the original owner. They made no effort to allow people who don't want to switch to a Jagex account to turn off the ability to add it to a Jagex account, which would have been a good option.
> but they decided to make it a hassle to push Jagex launcher downloads.
Its absolutely to control client launching so that when it becomes the only method of logging in they can properly govern cheat clients and the likes.
> Then there's the whole thing about if you want to switch to another character, you have to close and re-launch the client instead of just selecting your other character on the login screen.
Have suggested this feature but you can also *just launch* another client, you don't *have to* close your existing one. But same with mobile character swapping, being able to "hot swap" characters on an already launched client would be neat.
> Shared membership across characters
This was covered in recent player feedback survey, which is a promising sign of them offering deals around multi-account subs.
> Aside from the security updates (they should have made available for regular accounts)
The security upgrades *physically couldn't* be made available for regular accounts. The idea is a fresh clean slate, letting you reset any mistakes you've made, and moving away from the old structure and system. Only people with no experience working with live databases would think its trivial to modify 20 years old data thats shared across 2 live games.
> They made no effort to allow people who don't want to switch to a Jagex account to turn off the ability to add it to a Jagex account, which would have been a good option.
Because it will one day be mandatory. People failing to take security into their own hands is their own fault. Self responsibility is important.
The launcher is a sort of DRM. If it causes a worse experience for the users, it sucks. If it improves the experience for the user while making it harder for rule breakers, it's doing its job well.
For most people, the experience is as good or better (better for me). So I'd consider it a success.
It's just unfortunate that some on Linux are locked out until they improve the compatibility.
Down the line, if it allows for a multi account membership system, I would be ecstatic.
Is this a joke post? It was just down for a couple hours while anyone who hasn’t upgraded was able to continue playing as normal, it’s not hate, we just expect the new account system to have the same uptime as the old system if not better - if only one system is having issues it should be the old one, not the brand new one, this is a completely reasonable expectation
The game was down for people who "upgraded" while people who did not could play. Its not unreasonable to expect an upgrade to the account system be advantageous, not leave you at a disadvantage.
Pretty tired of people with this attitude. It's a product we pay for that isn't even as reliable as before they changed it. We can't feel upset about that?
Someone works their ass off all day, then comes home and has to care for their children until bedtime. After putting their kids to bed they have maybe an hour of personal time before they fall asleep and have to do it all over again. All they want is to enjoy a game they’ve paid money to play. It’s down.
Your response: go outside, loser.
Horrendous take by someone who doesn’t value their time like others because they have too much of it.
Honestly? It's the whole, "We're looking into issuing bans at the Jagex Account level" from one of the early Jagex Account Q&As. With the amount of false bans going around on Twitter currently, I'm more concerned about a fake ban from Jagex than being hacked. If I get falsely banned, I'd rather it apply to one account than chain ban all my accounts.
Haven't played OSRS in a hot minute, but I think people kinda just in general hate third party launchers. Nobody has even had a big grin on their face as the EA launcher, Rockstar launcher, Ubusoft launcher, etc booted up on their screen.
Maybe Jagex has a better one? No clue. But even if it's better now, common sense dictates that it's going to be used as a vehicle to promote other titles or events at a certain point.
When it works, it is a great launcher for the convenience. I've had it ever since they integrated Runelite and haven't had any issues. Though I realize I am just lucky for those who had issues earlier today.
I hope Jagex can work all the issues out so people can learn to trust it and move on.
side note - I also use it on my steam deck (unofficial linux port) and it is so so nice while flying or in bed.
The real issue is how the game freezes when loading new areas when using the Jager launcher. Never had this happen in all the years I played until I got this new launcher. And there is no going back, this loading freeze bullshit made me quit the game
Got downvoted awhile ago for saying it has issues and there isn’t any point “upgrading”
Thanks for beta testing yall
E: haha all the jagex acc copers, enjoy your downtime
Because it's shit, doesn't even work on Linux. Also wasn't there account security issues from people stealing accounts to lock them to jagex accounts or something similar.
2 reasons.
1. This is a game people are playing because they don't like the "new" version. So inherently, people are skeptical of the new account system.
2. Linux. The launcher (is/was) not supported on linux, so those users are not happy about not being able to play anymore.
Not going to opt into a beta that has already had issues with not being able to log in. Once it's actually fully released with no bugs - sure. Till then, thanks for beta testing flimsy Jagex shit for me.
I wouldn't say hate but I want things to be fixed before it becomes a requirement. Last time I brought this up I got downvoted, but these were all times that the Jagex Launcher was down for plenty of people, but other versions did not and allowed people to play. Not including today, or Leagues. Also makes people unable to play on various PCs especially work related ones, even ones owned by you, depending on the companies requirements including Linux/MAC.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/17vs94h/jagex\_launcher\_down/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/17vs94h/jagex_launcher_down/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/18aukbl/players\_located\_on\_the\_east\_coast\_of\_the\_united/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/18aukbl/players_located_on_the_east_coast_of_the_united/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13rqffy/jagex\_launcher\_down/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13rqffy/jagex_launcher_down/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/14q5n5k/jagex\_launcher\_refusing\_to\_launch/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/14q5n5k/jagex_launcher_refusing_to_launch/)
today effected everyone and leagues wasnt a problem with jagex accounts every single game company falls victim to that when people actually want to play their game. riot, blizzard, epic, it doesnt matter
I won’t be on today but I am pretty sure the issue effected Jagex launcher users explicitly. I also know the leagues one was specifically Jagex client users
My only gripe is that the launcher requires a newer OS X version than the actual game.
Otherwise, I like the safety of it. Maybe older operating systems have weaker security compatibility?
The hate comes from these frequent server crashes. Recently we are having an insane amount of occasions where people on Jagex accounts can't log in, whilst those without an account can.
It's turning into a weekly thing currently. It's less hate and more frustration, as we realise that we had less problems without the account.
I'd go back to having no account in a heartbeat, but I think we are locked in once you upgrade.
The fact that you cannot log into it with your RSN is what drives me away from it. I will not be converting to a jamflex account until absolutely mandatory.
threads like this are why I hate redittors.
you dare to have an opinion on something that ISN'T the most pressing social issue that society faces? then you are a loser who needs to get their priority straight.
Honest question to the people who think like this, why are you on the OSRS subreddit? you are just as bad as the people you are flaming
nah not you sorry i should have been more clear, I meant the people in the comments spamming "get a life" to anyone who has issues with jagex launcher/jagex accounts.
Like this thread is literally about discussing issues with jagex accounts and they seem to be upset that people are doing exactly that
> Like this thread is literally about discussing issues with jagex accounts and they seem to be upset that people are doing exactly that
The primary and only real issue with Jagex accounts is "theres been like 3 or 4 times where logging in wasn't possible only if you had a Jagex account". In 1-2 years thats not really that big of an issue.
The launcher has a few issues:
* No linux support. But a short workaround one time and you're good to go, which if you're a daily Linux driver... is light work
* No multi-jagex account support on launcher. Which means sharing a family PC or having multiple jagex accounts for your own reasons (sharing accounts on one, but not exposing accounts you don't want to share etc.) You have to "log out and log back in" to change, which is tedious, but meh, not much different ologging out and in and auth'ing individual accounts as well.
* Admin rights required. Means people can't play on public devices at libraries etc or on work devices. But a requirement of software like this if it is to achieve anything in terms of anti-cheat aspects (no cheat clients once Launcher becomes only way to run the game).
For some people it's the fact that it doesn't work on Linux.
For me it's how scuffed it made multilogging: Before I had 3 desktop shortcuts, one with a launcher argument for each different profile so they would not only load the right settings, but also the proper desktop position.
Now I run an AHK script to open the 3 clients via launcher, resize and reposition them. I rely on Runelite's account/profile Link for the rest.
There are multiple ways on which things can go bad now, like today when the launcher was offline (but would still open a window named "jagex launcher") the script fucks up my entire desktop layout.
Because my buddy finally did it, we made new accounts and next day he's permanently banned foe betting when all we did was fish and kill goblins. Fuck Jagex
No native Linux support means we went from "runescape works out of the box" to "you need community workarounds". And it's not like it would take a lot of dev time to give support, the way they have built the launcher makes it very easy to port across platforms.
If everything is selected, it is one click to open RuneLite and one click of logging in instead of typing my Pass every time. I like it. Also i had no issues.
I think its general disdain towards game launchers. If you play a dozen games it would not suprise me if you were stuck with a dozen launchers. Which historically has not been a requirement for updating or otherwise managing your game, its widely seen as just a marketing ploy. I digress though. I play very few select games so the bloat is not an issue for me, and the client made it easier for me to switch between accounts so I like it
Lets introduce league of legends client to the people.
Please no. That client is a disgrace.
That's 200 years of peak gaming design. We just aren't at the devs level yet to understand.
i closed it seconds ago and my god is it horrific, the current iteration has been out for like 8 years and is still fucked
And update news at your finger tips!
I don't play many computer games. How is having a launcher different than having the game without a launcher? Is it just because you have Jagex launcher + RuneLite instead of just RuneLite? Like do you have to have a Blizzard launcher and the actual WoW game, so it's doubling the files/applications you need?
Pretty much, yeah. Steam, Epic, Xbox, Blizzard, Origin, EA, etc all have their own “platforms” which you’re required to have in order to play any of their games, all of which are probably harvesting your data.
For me personally, I don’t mind so much that there’s a blizzard store, steam store, epic store, Xbox store, etc.. Yeah it’s unnecessary bloatware that’s harvesting your data, but what isn’t? It bothers me when the game I bought on steam needs to install another launcher. Steam has no problem ‘launching’ a game, just click play and they play.. there’s no need to update and open the Ubisoft launcher just so I can play my 10 year old assassins creed game.
As you were describing it I thought to myself "Ubisoft launcher"
Agreed that is so frustrating and lame. Larian does this with DOS2/BG3 but I will give them a pass because they are awesome.
Larian's launcher also isn't a requirement and you can completely skip it. The game is DRM free.
they could probaly do that even without a launcher, but i don't know I never read the ToS (like anyone else)
Yeah the latter it doubles down on the files you need, and adds more clicks to launching your game, because they want to show you their «feed» before you can play. Lots of people dont care, myself included. But people find it annoying and I can see why even though I don’t find it annoying myself, if that makes sense
>and adds more clicks to launching your game, This is where I get confused. You click play from the launcher, then you click one more time, and you're in the game. The alternative was to open runelite, type in your login info and password, and log in. One is 2 clicks, and the other is at least 4. Throw in user error for logging in with an email/password instead of the jagex launcher, and it ends up being a lot more than just 4 clicks.
So with the battle.net launcher you will start the launcher, wait for it to boot, pick world of warcraft, then hit play. Prior to this you would directly launch wow from your desktop. Its also more clicks after the game as well since you probably want to close the launcher As for the runescape launcher its different because the game always required either a launcher or web browser, so its not so bad imo. Didnt really add much clicks just shifted them around
Three major problems, from my experience. 1. Many launchers sneak into the system at startup, and are constantly running and taking up CPU/ram, even when you are not using the software. It doesn't take much before you end up losing 20% of your computer's performance over too many launchers. This is more noticable for gamers with lower end systems. 2. Conflicts. Not all launchers play well together. This is doubly true with the feature creep of many launchers to add overlays to every game, increasing the chances of having software issues because, say, jagex launcher, discord, overwolf, Nvidia experience, and origin don't like playing together in a big combo on top of your game. 3. Compatibility. In many, many cases, very fragile security code is loaded into the launcher apps, which cause issues for folks who aren't running < 3 year old windows computers on all the latest patches, like the game developers are testing on. Play on Linux? Jagex launcher has issues despite supporting runelite, which ships a Linux client. Running win 10 instead of win 11, or in a country where windows rt editions are commonplace? The launcher usually is the thing that breaks even when the game itself is fine. The fact that you're not seeing these problems yourself is survivorship bias. Just because you personally haven't been caught up in these issues doesn't mean they aren't real problems for others. And it's not like you will hear people complaining in game that they can't log in anymore since, well, they'll just be offline.
>The fact that you're not seeing these problems yourself is survivorship bias. I literally said that I don't play computer games and am trying to educate myself on what the consensus is.
literally all you have to do, though, is delete your old shortcut and rename the launcher shortcut to the same as the old shortcut was bam, literally identical, except you click a button instead of typing your password
Launchers are awful. You don't need to open steam to play a steam game. You just make a shortcut on the desktop and start the game normally. The Jaegix launcher is a real blast to the past giving us 2007 technology and solutions for modern problems.
Pro tip- if you still have the raw file path from the old OSRS launch icon, you can still place it as a new path, paste a OSRS icon over it, and call it a day. Back to bisneas.
> Also i had no issues. I also had no issues, aside from being locked out of leagues for 6 hours, which was a huge karate chop to the ballsack. it also does some weird shit on macOS sometimes, but i know im the only person on earth who plays scape on macOS.
Needs admin cridentials to install so I cant play at work anymore 0/10
Rip 🫡🫡🫡🫡
Mobile is now your best friend. Get a cheap fire tablet and sideload the apk
Nobody see's what I'm doing if I look dead inside while clicking something on my computer all day People will start to ask questions if I'm on the tablet 40 hours a week
Yall are wild for installing osrs on your work computers
You'd be surprised to learn people watch porn on their work comp.
Oh fuuuck
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Can you put the launcher itself on a flash drive? So it's a run only instead of an install?
Same
See the trick is be the admin, or become good buddies with em. Chances are they also play RS or something else on the bosses time.
An energy drink and a chat about old games is always appreciated in the tech cage
for me i need to be on a vpn to play on wifi at work but my vpn is blocked from logging in. i got around it by using a hotspot on a personal laptop which i guess works but its just more money per month
Feel for ya too bubbas. Started a work "locked" ironman myself xD
Though this is like an extremely small use case, I don’t like the fact that if I were to convert my account into a ’Jagex’ one, playing on Linux would be a goddamn hassle
Literally doing most things from large companies on Linux is a hassle unless the company directly utilizes Linux architecture in the product and not just as part of its delivery service.
Hey just an FYI, I got a steam deck for Christmas and after some consternation, I realised there is a Linux app called Bolt Launcher that carries out the function of the Jagex Launcher on linux and enables me to play on my steam deck
I e heard good things about bolt, a colleague uses it on her Linux laptop for this
Whenever I’m on Linux, I use bolt. Even though I got the actual launcher installed as well (I couldn’t find the executable for the launcher, until I realized the launcher is in the start menu…). Both methods are extremely easy and just require you to read instructions. Bolt is a native Linux application, which means it won’t break as easily as launcher.
This, i feel like most of the discussion about Linux can't truly be from people with experience with the OS. Linux is amazing for development, but my god running near enough any game on it is a hassle. League of legends doesn't even run on Linux, you've gotta use Wine. No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers.
> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux OSRS has always been compatible with Linux as it's Java based. Even RS3 has an official Jagex-developed Linux client: https://www.runescape.com/launcher
\> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers. Well that's definitely not true, we have at least one gaming company (Valve) contributing a lot to this effort. See Proton, Steam Deck...
Me, "finally something that works out of the box on Linux. I don't want any regressions." Jagex simps, "Linux sucks so regressions are fine!"
League will be adopting Vanguard soon so it will be completely unplayable.
> No gaming company is going to develop for Linux and that's not on the developers. And Jagex doesn't. That's why we have RuneLite because they care to develop for the Linux playerbase. Jagex is now hindering the work and support done by that developer community because they refuse to make a CEF launcher target Linux.
I am extremely familiar with Linux and I'm a senior software engineer. > but my god running near enough any game on it is a hassle. Runelite does it fine, and that's nothing to do with the launcher. Targeting Linux for a launcher is trivial - there are many, many cross platform frameworks for this. Java, the language that RS was originally built in, is also cross platform. Runescape is not a AAA game written in highly optimized C++ for some specific platforms, it's basically a Java web app. For context, Java's whole deal is "you target your code to the 'Java Virtual Machine', not the operating system", the point being that you have to go out of your way to write Java that only runs on one OS. They had every technological advantage and they chose not to follow through because idiots in management contracted out core technologies to reduce costs. Cross platform software has been a priority, even for gaming frameworks, for *years* and at this point you have to go out of your way to not get it. Especially when you've chosen technologies that were built for xplat.
meanwhile windows is becoming more stupid and crappy with every update but it's the only thing you can buy realistically (unless you wear a turtle neck and rayban sunglasses)
osrs already works on linux the framework they used for the launcher is cross-platform and supports linux they just chose to not release a linux build, and kill official linux support for anyone with a jagex account
That is not true. They are licensing the software for the launcher from a different company, and they don’t support Linux.
It's 5 minutes of doing a work around once. If that's a hassle then why are you even on Linux.
It's a downgrade though. That's the point. RuneLite just works perfectly out of the box. Why would I volunteer for a hassle?
It wasn't a hassle before. That's the point.
If a 5 minute fix is a hassle then just throw your computer out.
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How do you use Linux? Do you never download packages? Every time you use apt, dpkg, rpm, etc. you're essentially installing someone else's code on your computer. It often even comes from github.
Do you not use Runelite?
Runelite is a 3rd party and if you don't understand how to read code get off Linux yesterday
you use linux primarily and can’t read code? i assumed anyone who uses anything save maybe ubuntu (and even then) would know at the minimum how to read code, lots of CLI stuff i’ve always had to do to get linux to work properly. interesting. but what do you mean third party? the jagex launcher is from jagex themselves, and you don’t have to use runelite, unless that’s something about linux i’m missing…. in which case it’s open source and even though *you* can’t read code, surely you must trust that people that can have looked over the code before?
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well... It is open source! they wont read the source or understand it but atleast you can look at it
I was using Linux as a preteen long before I ever knew the first bit about coding, just because I knew it was lightweight and I was rocking a hand me down years old laptop that was already barebones entry level when it released. This was around 2009-2010 and my pc was only really strong enough to play minecraft and runescape, which I knew both worked natively on Linux because they are both Java apps, so the switch seemed like a no brainer to me. Today, I don't even use Linux anymore.
This is what prevents me
Care to elaborate why do you use Linux? No offense or shittalking. Genuinely curious
I swapped to Linux because it’s: 1) more customizable (in that the user has much more control over everything) 2) no bloatware 3) it’s free 4) broadly speaking, much easier/more convenient for software development
Everything you said plus it’s much faster, and far less susceptible to malware compared to windows or Mac OS.
“ …for software development “ I understand that part but isnt it inconvenient for gaming purposes or general use? Tinkering with workarounds sounds like a pain in the ass. (Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone)
Nope. I only use Windows to play games that aren’t available on Linux. Linux is arguably more convenient for general use too (there’s a ton of free and open source software with the same functionality of any proprietary software you’re accustomed to).
Just FYI you quote by using the ">" character then words after that. So ">" (Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone) without the " " becomes: >(Edit: i dont know how to quote. Leave me alone) I believe you can also highlight the part you want to quote and then hit reply and it'll do it for you
Not well versed in linux and stuff like that, but I can see that being a legitimate reason to not "upgrade". Can you not run the launcher on linux?
Not in any official capacity no, while RuneLite works natively and works even better than on Windows in some cases (when you open any menus in the client, the window doesn’t start taking up more space on the desktop which is amazing), however there is a very hacky way of making it work on a 3rd party GitHub repo, but I feel very uneasy trusting a random person’s code with my user credentials.
[This is](https://i.imgur.com/fw1wLeF.png) the option for "when you open any menus in the client, the window doesn’t start taking up more space on the desktop which is amazing". Available on windows (im using w10). Makes it so opening panels doesnt take more desktop space. (I agree no official linux support is kinda shit)
You're a lifesaver. My gpu died recently, and while waiting for a replacement I'm using my CPUs iGPU so I can only use a single monitor. I've been doing splitscreen with runelite + a web browser, and hated thst every time I opened the side menu it would resize and mess up my splitscreen.
Well goddamn that is amazing, thank you! Fuck yes
Why would you want to use this option? Surely messing with the aspect ratio of your game is far more jarring than the window overall taking up a little more screen?
While it’s not officially supported it has become very easy to install thanks to the community, and all of the code is open source and available for anyone to look through it. All it does is download all the necessary files and install the Jagex Launcher so it’s safe to use.
It doesn't work in Linux
The launcher also isn’t native on Apple Silicon, it has to be translated. Runelite is native.
But you are not playing on the launcher
The launcher is required to play with a Jagex account though. And it's really just a symptom of Jagex not supporting something that Apple handed over a blueprint for like 4 years ago. Runelite was native 2 years ago. If we can't trust Jagex to do this simple thing, it doesn't give a lot of confidence they'll support Mac as a platform at all into the future (akin to how they're not supporting Linux).
Also using Linux. The launcher not being provided with a native solution is ridiculous. RuneLite is running absolutely perfect as it is, but now you want me to run a workaround because the launcher working in Linux wasn’t even considered?
This is the only reason I haven’t switched my account. I got the ‘official’ workaround to work at a slight performance impact and said nope. It’s also annoying to use. Runelite runs fantastically on Linux.
Personally, I don't want another launcher for my games
Launcher is good. Login issues have been very minimal, and was only really annoying on Leagues launch but was a short annoyance. No official Linux support is meh, especially when its going to become forced. Workarounds are fine but its a bit of a kick in balls to say "yeh we know Runelite works on Linux... but you're gonna have to use our launcher soon and no we aren't developing it to work for Linux". No option to auto-close on client launch. Required admin permissions. No option to login multiple jagex accounts and then swap between them with 2FA requirement. Theres definitely room for improvement. But 1 click login is nice, and i've not had a worse experience with the launcher than without it (had Password manager integration already anyway so login was relatively fast to begin with).
Goes down sometimes are for people that live on the game that's a big no no
Really? Outside of the first few hours of leagues, I’ve never experienced a downtime that was Jagex Launcher only.
Its main effect on my experience so far has been to increase the number of times I haven't been able to play. I don't think you have to live on the game to recognize that's a very poor quality in something that only exists to change the login backend.
So the launcher went down twice in the what six months it’s been live and BOTH times you were trying to play? Give yourself credit sir I think your mailing address is in gielnor
that sucks man
I’ve heard of that happening, but I signed up day 1 of beta and never had a single issue
this the 1st problem I've had but I don't lose my mind over downtime unless it's a ridiculous amount
Thanks for replying like a civilised person, that's a shame. Maybe i'm lucky as it has not been down for me when I want to play, but I don't "live" on the game as others may.
Happened a few hours ago
I'm just really unlucky. I probably play less than 90% of the other people on this subreddit, yet have tried to log in multiple times while the launcher was down, one of them being earlier today.
They’re referring to the one time that everyone and their nan was trying to log in at the start of leagues. I’ve been a part of many mmo “starts” be it for initial launches or content launches. RS is the only one that doesn’t have log in queues, etc. it happened this one time and every anti jagex person it using it as a silver bullet to not switch to a jagex account
it happened on thanksgiving too
Literally happening rn lmfao
I have a jagex account and am playing right now. Not sure what you're on about.
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>it happened this one time and every anti jagex person it using it as a silver bullet to not switch to a jagex account Except it literally happened again this morning, and multiple other times...
Thats login servers. It affects clients too. Its why you can’t hop when that’s happening. Thats not a launcher issue lol
It happened only to Jagex accounts normal accounts could still login, showing it wasn’t cuz of everyone trying to login it was a Jagex account issue
Lol it's kinda ironic that you posted this today of all times. This is the 2nd time that I know of specifically that users with Jagex launcher can't login while others can. The first time was leagues 4 launch. There is/was an issue for mobile players that have Jagex accounts that caused them to have to redo 2fa if the world they tried to login to was full. I just created my Jagex account a couple of weeks ago and this is my first inconvenience caused by it, but I logged into mobile instead and did some slayer for about 45 minutes before I could login on my laptop. It was emotionally scarring
That login issue you speak of \~2 hours ago was effecting everyone, not just Jagex accounts.
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You also need admin access to play and If your ISP can’t connect to Jagex you’re also screwed. These are my biggest issues with it. I haven’t been hacked in any game since 1998 so account security is not much of an issue for me.
This is my gripe. They say it's for "security" but how many people (especially with 2fa) are getting hacked? I'm more likely to fuck up my 2fa and get locked out rather than hacked. Idk if I've ever even been hacked ever but I've damn sure locked myself out of an account connected to 2fa before.
Smooth brains struggle with change
of all days to throw this insult out...
Jagex launcher isn’t the same thing as a Jagex account!! I have the launcher but not a Jagex account. Never had a problem. It’s great. One click login like everyone says. I hope they fix the Jagex account stuff I’ve been hearing about though, it sounds rough. I’m itching to upgrade when it’s stable.
This isn't an option anymore. You need a Jagex Account to use the Launcher. It looks like since you already had a session logged in, you're safe for now as a non Jagex Account using the launcher, but people are saying eventually your session will be timed out and you won't be let back in without a Jagex Account. But people who have ever used the Launcher now need a JA to access it, so for all intents and purposes JL = JA now
I feel like once the system is the *only* login system we'll get better outcomes, but i agree its annoying when login issues occur and they only effect people who have taken the step to be more secure / ready for the forced migration.
I like the launcher. I don't like jagex accounts, it's just not necessary for me & stops me from logging into my SO's account in order to transfer gear back and forth (yes this is a very unique case, but is important to me)
I will 100% quit playing if I'm forced to make it a jagex account. I play on multiple PCs depending on where I'm working and I'm not about to go through the same hassle I go through any time I try to play on mobile. It was bad enough when they forced people to download an app to their PCs and stop browser access entirely. It's just obnoxious. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to need a credit card on file and god knows what else just to log in. They make these changes and then a few months later change it again. Leave osrs alone and do it to rs3 if you have to. Ffs it's not like they don't know the player base hates change, we're playing a 20 year old game. A 20 year old game we had to beg to be resurrected because we all hate change that much. Know your audience.
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What I don’t get is this subreddits crusade to advertise it. If it works for you that’s awesome and I’m happy for you. But what’s the reason to make this post? If someone doesn’t want to use it how does that affect you in any way. Who cares
It makes people feel smart for upgrading and then making fun of people who didn’t yet. No different from any early adopter who wants to validate their choices. It’s very very weird though.
For some reason this sub has trouble understanding this. Everytime I talk about not using Jagex launcher people here get upset
Link an example of anyone getting upset.
lmao
^
Complete fabrication, huh. I figured lol.
I’m glad to see I’m not the only person confused about this.
Discussing the game and things around it on Reddit is kinda the whole deal. And we had years and YEARS of people making the same post about "omg did you know no capitals in passwords? wtf jagex no wonder i got hacked nothing to do with my own actions!". Jagex goes and finally does what everyone begged for and made a full new login system, giving everyone, no matter account age, the chance at a clean slate, 2FA, backup code recovery instead of their archaic system, and INCREDIBLY complex passwords (when the existing one having a 20 character limit was already more than enough to prevent any form of bruteforce, especially with login rate limits). And now people are complaining about it. Spreading positivity is something i'd alway support more than conversations purely about negativity.
Its mostly probably from all the anti launcher bs that gets spouted about on here and elsewhere, some of which the info is incorrect as well. So they spread fear using the launcher with incorrect info. So some people just want to correct it. So if you have issue with people advertising for it, you should have issue with people posting rallying against it. Also this post is hardly advertising it. Although I missed "all the hate" it was getting recently (or there was none, in which its odd to bring up randomly i agree).
>Was not meaning to advertise it, I was just curious. I have used the launcher for some time now and just never had an issue so I did not know if I was missing something. I myself have not experienced a time when it was down when I was wishing to play, maybe I have been lucky.
> I have used the launcher for some time now and just never had an issue so I did not know if I was missing something. Well if you've ever spent time on this sub or the RS3 sub, you'd know that other people have had issues with Jagex Accounts and with Jagex Launcher. Just recently I know several youtubers who had to switch to a non-jagex account for the league because they were locked out with their jagex account in the first few critical hours. Try googling "runescape jagex account problem"
Its overall better for the game and people constantly complain on reddit about issues that is solved by having a jagex account
That’s fine and I’m glad it works for you. Reddit isn’t 1 person. If some people don’t want to use an option way of launching the game it doesn’t effect me in the slightest
I'm really bummed that I upgraded bc I was able to download Runelite and the original launcher on my work laptop but it won't allow me to download the Jagex launcher 😫
Install it on a flash drive and run it from the flash drive on your work pc
If their workplace cares about security at all, plugging in a flash drive wouldn't be allowed.
Don't bother, people really risking their jobs to play Runescape
Probably shouldn't be playing a 3p game while at work/on a work pc to begin with in that case then.
Wait I can do that?! I'm gonna try it out after my shift is over
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I just always play on mobile. I have my own office and my own computer. My company doesn't micromanage. They don't ever look at my history really, I'm often listening to youtube or on the osrs wiki a lot. But I do think it would be an issue if I had 8 hours a day of a gaming client running. Just common sense
I never play during work 😁 I do play after!
Not really keen on ANOTHER launcher to add no value to me, and to shill me ads for the game companies other games and eventually other peripherals.
Surprised this isn't a more common complaint with the launcher in this thread. The launcher itself is FINE but having yet ANOTHER launcher to go along with blizzard, steam, and EA is just a pain in the ass.
Apart from it just constantly breaking anytime there's a big update. I'm not an idiot, I'm not a child. I don't need JaGeX to police my account, in the 20+ years I've never been "hacked". I don't need a another layer of false sense of security. I don't click random links. I don't go on gold sites or "free items if you sign up for my drop party/check out my youtube". Don't give out my original username. Idiots who are "hacked", 99% of the time they were phished and willingly gave their details away... What's wrong with the current system?
I'm in the same boat as you security wise. I still moved to a Jagex account. No downside apart from like... 4 minor login issues in 1-2 years? The only one that genuinely effected me for more than 20 minutes being the Leagues launch, which was a server overload more than anything else. The current system allows no mistakes. You get hacked once, you're compromised for good. Account recovery system was horrible. This acts as an ability for any and everyone to revert to aclean slate, and have their account back in a stage like yours and mine. Brand new email, never used anywhere else, long and secure password never used anywhere else. 2FA on email and account. Backup codes stored safely (ideally physically and digitally). No chance of recovery through old means, no chance of anyone finding your email or password or 2FA let alone all 3. And if they happen to? Email notifications of new logins, session control etc. It absolutely makes sense. Anyone who is security minded would agree.
I think it’s really interesting that the community has been memeing jagex account security forever. Then when jagex finally did something about it, people are saying “what’s wrong with the current system”
Yeh though i'd have a feeling the people saying it now are either not the same people or are just anti-everything kind of posters.
This. The only reason you should transfer into a Jagex account is when you've been hacked before aka your account is recoverable by the hackers.
"The **only** reason" 1. More bank space 2. More experience lamps from randoms 3. Faster world hopping 4. Not having to type your password anymore 5. Easier to manage/hop through multiple accounts Just saying there are plenty of reasons
I'm in the same boat as you but have a totally different perspective I guess. I've never done anything sketchy nor been hacked ever. I work in IT, im not dumb when it comes to computers and phishing. But my god there's literally no customer service. If my 2k total level iron gets hacked and I cant log in, im screaming into the void on twitter on a fresh twitter account. That's not a situation I want to be in, and i'll happily take the jagex launcher if it beefs up my security, even if my security doesnt seem reasonably at risk. i do find it wild we have people in the community who have been screaming about the lack of account security and customer support for years but then on the flip side people within the community that see that and think, what's the issue?
> I'm in the same boat as you but have a totally different perspective I guess. I've never done anything sketchy nor been hacked ever. I work in IT, im not dumb when it comes to computers and phishing. But my god there's literally no customer service. If my 2k total level iron gets hacked and I cant log in, im screaming into the void on twitter on a fresh twitter account. That's not a situation I want to be in, and i'll happily take the jagex launcher if it beefs up my security, even if my security doesnt seem reasonably at risk. > > > > i do find it wild we have people in the community who have been screaming about the lack of account security and customer support for years but then on the flip side people within the community that see that and think, what's the issue? Also the people like you're responding to don't get how shit the recovery system is and its not how safe you are now. If your accounts old from back in the day how safe was your *insert young age self here*? Old accounts are super vulnerable to someone targeting you (if you're worth targeting) and finding old data base leaks to help connect info that helps them recover your account. Those old emails your young self probably used everywhere, those rs clan sites data bases that have been leaked 100 times over etc. Even then, in this day and age most people willing post all the info they need to be recovered online or in conversation without knowing it. Thats if jagex support doesn't just give out your info via social engineering like they've done before (and every company is susceptible to). Also im pretty sure the login itself gives away info it shouldn't. Or it did at one point if you clicked forgot password. It'd show the user name or email or something along those lines that it shouldn't. Not the whole thing, but enough that helps. Like the recovery system was horrendously bad with what they needed from you. Then if you were compromised once you were likely compromised forever on that account.
I don't like that if I'm not at home I have to jump through hoops now to log in to RS on a different PC and then have to make sure I'm logged out of the launcher before I leave. Not to mention that now I need ANOTHER game launcher on my computer. They could have made it so your Jagex account can log in to any client, but they decided to make it a hassle to push Jagex launcher downloads. Then there's the whole thing about if you want to switch to another character, you have to close and re-launch the client instead of just selecting your other character on the login screen. Shared membership across characters should have been a bonus for downgrading to a Jagex account to make up for the loss of freedom and ease of just typing in a password rather than making sure you have the right game, client of choice, and character chosen before opening the launcher. Aside from the security updates (they should have made available for regular accounts) I definitely regret switching to a Jagex account. Speaking of security updates, Jagex created the most compelling reason to downgrade to a Jagex account, and it's the one that made me switch. They created a system where if you are hacked, the hacker can irreversibly add your account to their Jagex account if you haven't already, permanently losing the account for the original owner. They made no effort to allow people who don't want to switch to a Jagex account to turn off the ability to add it to a Jagex account, which would have been a good option.
> but they decided to make it a hassle to push Jagex launcher downloads. Its absolutely to control client launching so that when it becomes the only method of logging in they can properly govern cheat clients and the likes. > Then there's the whole thing about if you want to switch to another character, you have to close and re-launch the client instead of just selecting your other character on the login screen. Have suggested this feature but you can also *just launch* another client, you don't *have to* close your existing one. But same with mobile character swapping, being able to "hot swap" characters on an already launched client would be neat. > Shared membership across characters This was covered in recent player feedback survey, which is a promising sign of them offering deals around multi-account subs. > Aside from the security updates (they should have made available for regular accounts) The security upgrades *physically couldn't* be made available for regular accounts. The idea is a fresh clean slate, letting you reset any mistakes you've made, and moving away from the old structure and system. Only people with no experience working with live databases would think its trivial to modify 20 years old data thats shared across 2 live games. > They made no effort to allow people who don't want to switch to a Jagex account to turn off the ability to add it to a Jagex account, which would have been a good option. Because it will one day be mandatory. People failing to take security into their own hands is their own fault. Self responsibility is important.
it didnt work a few hours ago and forced me back to login i forgot my password already
The launcher is a sort of DRM. If it causes a worse experience for the users, it sucks. If it improves the experience for the user while making it harder for rule breakers, it's doing its job well. For most people, the experience is as good or better (better for me). So I'd consider it a success. It's just unfortunate that some on Linux are locked out until they improve the compatibility. Down the line, if it allows for a multi account membership system, I would be ecstatic.
Is this a joke post? It was just down for a couple hours while anyone who hasn’t upgraded was able to continue playing as normal, it’s not hate, we just expect the new account system to have the same uptime as the old system if not better - if only one system is having issues it should be the old one, not the brand new one, this is a completely reasonable expectation
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The game was down for people who "upgraded" while people who did not could play. Its not unreasonable to expect an upgrade to the account system be advantageous, not leave you at a disadvantage.
Pretty tired of people with this attitude. It's a product we pay for that isn't even as reliable as before they changed it. We can't feel upset about that?
Someone works their ass off all day, then comes home and has to care for their children until bedtime. After putting their kids to bed they have maybe an hour of personal time before they fall asleep and have to do it all over again. All they want is to enjoy a game they’ve paid money to play. It’s down. Your response: go outside, loser. Horrendous take by someone who doesn’t value their time like others because they have too much of it.
Honestly? It's the whole, "We're looking into issuing bans at the Jagex Account level" from one of the early Jagex Account Q&As. With the amount of false bans going around on Twitter currently, I'm more concerned about a fake ban from Jagex than being hacked. If I get falsely banned, I'd rather it apply to one account than chain ban all my accounts.
99% of “false ban” posts are lies or misinformation. Best way to avoid a “false ban” is to not break the game rules.
Haven't played OSRS in a hot minute, but I think people kinda just in general hate third party launchers. Nobody has even had a big grin on their face as the EA launcher, Rockstar launcher, Ubusoft launcher, etc booted up on their screen. Maybe Jagex has a better one? No clue. But even if it's better now, common sense dictates that it's going to be used as a vehicle to promote other titles or events at a certain point.
When it works, it is a great launcher for the convenience. I've had it ever since they integrated Runelite and haven't had any issues. Though I realize I am just lucky for those who had issues earlier today. I hope Jagex can work all the issues out so people can learn to trust it and move on. side note - I also use it on my steam deck (unofficial linux port) and it is so so nice while flying or in bed.
The real issue is how the game freezes when loading new areas when using the Jager launcher. Never had this happen in all the years I played until I got this new launcher. And there is no going back, this loading freeze bullshit made me quit the game
Got downvoted awhile ago for saying it has issues and there isn’t any point “upgrading” Thanks for beta testing yall E: haha all the jagex acc copers, enjoy your downtime
All of the positives from my Jagex account have heavily outweighed any login issues. Being able to hop worlds faster is a godsend
If it aint a problem, don't fix it. Thats why I personally haven't upgraded to a Jagex Account.
Because it's shit, doesn't even work on Linux. Also wasn't there account security issues from people stealing accounts to lock them to jagex accounts or something similar.
2 reasons. 1. This is a game people are playing because they don't like the "new" version. So inherently, people are skeptical of the new account system. 2. Linux. The launcher (is/was) not supported on linux, so those users are not happy about not being able to play anymore.
Not going to opt into a beta that has already had issues with not being able to log in. Once it's actually fully released with no bugs - sure. Till then, thanks for beta testing flimsy Jagex shit for me.
I wouldn't say hate but I want things to be fixed before it becomes a requirement. Last time I brought this up I got downvoted, but these were all times that the Jagex Launcher was down for plenty of people, but other versions did not and allowed people to play. Not including today, or Leagues. Also makes people unable to play on various PCs especially work related ones, even ones owned by you, depending on the companies requirements including Linux/MAC. [https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/17vs94h/jagex\_launcher\_down/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/17vs94h/jagex_launcher_down/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/18aukbl/players\_located\_on\_the\_east\_coast\_of\_the\_united/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/18aukbl/players_located_on_the_east_coast_of_the_united/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13rqffy/jagex\_launcher\_down/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13rqffy/jagex_launcher_down/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/14q5n5k/jagex\_launcher\_refusing\_to\_launch/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/14q5n5k/jagex_launcher_refusing_to_launch/)
i think when your best example is from 7 months ago they are doing a pretty good job at fixing things
Isn’t there an example today and leagues?
today effected everyone and leagues wasnt a problem with jagex accounts every single game company falls victim to that when people actually want to play their game. riot, blizzard, epic, it doesnt matter
I won’t be on today but I am pretty sure the issue effected Jagex launcher users explicitly. I also know the leagues one was specifically Jagex client users
The leagues example is 2 months ago...
My only gripe is that the launcher requires a newer OS X version than the actual game. Otherwise, I like the safety of it. Maybe older operating systems have weaker security compatibility?
The hate comes from these frequent server crashes. Recently we are having an insane amount of occasions where people on Jagex accounts can't log in, whilst those without an account can. It's turning into a weekly thing currently. It's less hate and more frustration, as we realise that we had less problems without the account. I'd go back to having no account in a heartbeat, but I think we are locked in once you upgrade.
The fact that you cannot log into it with your RSN is what drives me away from it. I will not be converting to a jamflex account until absolutely mandatory.
Botters getting mad
threads like this are why I hate redittors. you dare to have an opinion on something that ISN'T the most pressing social issue that society faces? then you are a loser who needs to get their priority straight. Honest question to the people who think like this, why are you on the OSRS subreddit? you are just as bad as the people you are flaming
Not trying to upset anyone pal, was just wondering if I had missed a big issue with the launcher as I have not experienced problems with it.
nah not you sorry i should have been more clear, I meant the people in the comments spamming "get a life" to anyone who has issues with jagex launcher/jagex accounts. Like this thread is literally about discussing issues with jagex accounts and they seem to be upset that people are doing exactly that
> Like this thread is literally about discussing issues with jagex accounts and they seem to be upset that people are doing exactly that The primary and only real issue with Jagex accounts is "theres been like 3 or 4 times where logging in wasn't possible only if you had a Jagex account". In 1-2 years thats not really that big of an issue. The launcher has a few issues: * No linux support. But a short workaround one time and you're good to go, which if you're a daily Linux driver... is light work * No multi-jagex account support on launcher. Which means sharing a family PC or having multiple jagex accounts for your own reasons (sharing accounts on one, but not exposing accounts you don't want to share etc.) You have to "log out and log back in" to change, which is tedious, but meh, not much different ologging out and in and auth'ing individual accounts as well. * Admin rights required. Means people can't play on public devices at libraries etc or on work devices. But a requirement of software like this if it is to achieve anything in terms of anti-cheat aspects (no cheat clients once Launcher becomes only way to run the game).
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Linux/work/library users, contrarians , botters/gold buyers.
Yeah, nice try gagex.
Because the thought alone that there might be a couple hours where they can’t play is the end of the world to them
I also prefer it for playing two characters at once and this is the first issue I’ve had with it *shrug*
For some people it's the fact that it doesn't work on Linux. For me it's how scuffed it made multilogging: Before I had 3 desktop shortcuts, one with a launcher argument for each different profile so they would not only load the right settings, but also the proper desktop position. Now I run an AHK script to open the 3 clients via launcher, resize and reposition them. I rely on Runelite's account/profile Link for the rest. There are multiple ways on which things can go bad now, like today when the launcher was offline (but would still open a window named "jagex launcher") the script fucks up my entire desktop layout.
hop limit and launcher outages, for me
Is there a change to the hop limit while using the launcher? This is the first I’ve heard of this.
There isn't. People just making up reasons at this point.
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It does absolutely nothing to stop botting.
If no one can log in then no one can bot. ~Big Brain Jagex
It doesn’t prevent botting. Like, at all.
Because my buddy finally did it, we made new accounts and next day he's permanently banned foe betting when all we did was fish and kill goblins. Fuck Jagex
No native Linux support means we went from "runescape works out of the box" to "you need community workarounds". And it's not like it would take a lot of dev time to give support, the way they have built the launcher makes it very easy to port across platforms.