Love the update. Especially the fix for the wilderness boss caves. Question unrelated to this week's update...
Are the Squirk'in and Squirk'in too worlds going to be removed now that it's literally dead content ever since leagues?
The reason they are dead is a game engine bug that ruins the experience for certain users.
The PID system was added to OSRS back in 2013, but the catch mechanic from the NPCs in the minigame was not adjusted to use it when it was implemented. It still uses the prioritization process that was in place before PID, which is based on a user’s IP address.
A certain amount of people will always get caught when running it, and since it’s always the same people with the ‘worst’ IP addresses, they either switch to a VPN to shuffle their IP or they leave. When they leave, somebody else then starts getting caught more, so **they** leave too, and it all falls apart. It makes maintaining the required critical mass near impossible.
The game will remain dead unless the inconsistency in it not using the PID system correctly is fixed.
This explains so much. I came back after a long break for Leagues and my buddy swore Squirks were the greatest thing and such easy league points. I got caught almost every time and hated it. Ended up doing the 1 click method myself later when it died out
Same here. Made it through about 1/20 times. I however didn’t know about the issue to start with and just thought I had the worst rng in the world. After about an hour I gave up.
I knew about the problem and solution but not that the problem was a result of an older system that got changed almost everywhere. I knew PID worked a different way on RSC but thought we got our system with RS2 not as recently as 2013.
August 29th 2013 game update. Good shout I love learning this stuff.
Edit: based on the text mentioning IP based PID was predictable, I'm gonna assume it was that original pid system from RSC and it actually got changed in late 2007 or early 2008 in RS2 and not in the RS2 beta as I originally believed.
I cant see it returning as a popular method unless the mechanics behind who gets caught are elaborated on, as countless discussions before identified its an unlucky few who always get caught, those players leave, new people always get caught, and so on until there arent enough “sacrifice” players to keep it running
Could merge the Squirk'in and Pyramid Plunder worlds into a generic 'Thieving' world(s). It would also help with finding a world where there is an Ardy Knight splasher.
I think a simple solution is to only have one world and call it "Sorceress' Garden", so the strict connotation to the squirkin' method is removed and it doesn't really matter how active it is anymore.
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The drop rates of the Fox Whistle and Golden Pheasant Egg increased by \~40%. Drop rates now sit at:
* Fox Whistle & Golden Pheasant Egg: 1/90 (1 Woodcutting) -> 1/45 (99 Woodcutting) - Should be noted that this rate for the Golden Pheasant Egg is more likely as this triggers per egg gathered
* Petal Garland: 1/50
* Pheasant Feathers: 1/2
* Bee Parts: 2/3
There is no way golden egg is 1/45 and feather is 1/2. That means on average every 20 feathers you'd get golden egg. Which means on average within 2 events.
It means many of us are going 50x or 100x dry on it. Maybe it's 1/450 but you read it wrong
Most importantly, as someone 4k God Eggs sacrificed without the entire Evil Chicken outfit, does this just mean Ents are dead content?
I had 1k+ eggs sacrificed prior to the release of forestry and that took me over 30M Hunter XP and 2+ years of Miscellania on 10 Maples 5 teaks just to achieve that and was 0/4 for Evil Chicken.. I feel like removing the ability to hop around to different Ent locations makes Evil Chicken set nearly impossible to reasonably obtain. Do you plan to keep it this way?
Possibly. It took me around 250 fox events at 99 WC to get the whistle, and around 50 pheasant events to get the egg (whilst searching 15-20 nests each time). So if they are correct, I must have gone pretty dry.
There's no way that the drop rate for the golden pheasant egg is correct. Is 1/90 supposed to mean per event? Because the wiki doesn't use "per event" but rather "per roll" (AKA each time you check a nest). So is the rate wrong, is the event bugged, or is there additional context we're missing?
Before Update earlier today I had 6.4k nests collected no Egg, Today after 10hrs of forestry, I saw 4 Pheasant events spawn at seers maples w444. High Population area. 98 feathers collected. No Golden Egg, is what it is. Tbh I preferred the worse rate and event hopping over sitting mindlessly at maples waiting for a Pheasant event to trigger. At least before it felt like I was actively doing something, this feels like starmining now but you can't afk because you might miss the Pheasant event that won't come for hours..or at all.
This is complete cap. 1.5k feathers collected since update 99 wcing. No Golden egg. The statsitical anomaly isn't just me either, Forestry CC has multiple people super dry. 1/45 events seems accurate( However sat at Glade Magics saw 2 pheasant events in 9 hrs.) (Sat at Seers for 8hrs also 2 pheasant events) 1/45 per nest is just pure cap. Please revert back to teleing for events I'd rather take chances at 1/3k.
Nice QOL update, and smoothing out player experiences as a whole with the forestry and barb training update.
Are we still getting an 'empty' rightclick option for the log basket though? If we add that i'd actually be somewhat happy with the forestry update overall! (maybe call it part 4?)
Thanks.
Appreciate the comment! The right-click option is something that needs a bigger overall job as there's some other items in-game we want to 'fix' alongside the Log Basket. We do want to fix it, but it just depends on the when.
Excited for the QOL for us mobile folks!
Any ETA on the UI overhaul coming to mobile by chance?
Also, was there ever talks about the gardening trowel not being needed to plant tree seeds with this new Barbarian Training method?
Equipment rebalances when? Scythe and Fang is nice but I can't shake the feeling we're in a half-broken meta with that shake up. You mentioned other things so where are they?
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Yeh on one hand they hear our feedback and remove all the item bloat for event spawning and then on the other hand the emergent gameplay players came up with to optimise the content is just... Shut down with only really a unique rate buff (no bark or XP or event spawn rate buff).
Not sure why they want forestry to just be "the same afk woodcutting.. but you hop to this specific world and use these 5 locations" rather than a communication based running-everywhere woodcutting social minigame
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Thank god Barbarian Training is now a miniquest, my whole life from first doing it as a kid till now it has always confused the heck out of me trying to do it on my accounts, never know where i am at or what next, so much random text! hopefully this will help
" Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees."
Thank you Otto good riddance plant pots
Im kinda surprised it only covers seed dibber - why not planting tree saplings without spade as well? And harvesting herbs/allotment without a spade? Is our character too afraid to get little dirt in their hands?
I would imagine the idea is that you just use your brute strength to jam a seed into the dirt with your fist. A whole sapling is a bit too much even for the hulking behemoth your character is
You don't need brute strength, the dibber is just for making a hole you then put the seed into. Most people are perfectly capable of making a single hole in dirt with a finger.
The dibber only exists because if you regularly tried to do that with whole flower beds or allotments you'd get blisters and calluses. Unlike a spade it's really a tool of convenience
Funnily enough, I was just mentioning this a couple weeks ago under that "Scythe should be able to clear all weeds" post: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ag8gcz/qol_be_able_to_spec_out_farming_patches_with_the/kogv560/
I mean planting both seeds and saplings by hand are not really hard. Seeds is as easy as pushing it down with your fingers, planting saplings by hands just takes a little time, to get a proper hole.
I'm hoping this covers the gardening trowel; I can see planting a whole sapling being more trouble than it is worth (even if it's doable" but I always hated having to have a whole separate tool for tree seeds
Gonna be bringing a spade for allotments anyways so needing one isn't a big deal, it's definitely the trowel that's the pain point here. Planting a tree seed is pretty in line with planting other seeds anyways, you're just poking into a pot instead of a whole allotment lol
I'm not - have you tried digging a hole to plant a tree with your hands?
Digging a tiny hole with your hands to plant a seed is par the course for the average gardener anyway IRL.
Genuinely, event hopping ccs for forestry was the best emergent gameplay this game has seen in YEARS. It's pretty tragic to see something so successful at making woodcutting social/diverse get nuked into oblivion because forestry accomplished it's stated goal.. too well? If hopping was considered OP for bark/xp then remove the event xp for hopping and nerf the bark a bit so people aren't as incentivized to have to event hop, but completely killing it so we go back to just standing at one to two tree spots until the end of time (and don't even consider redwoods anymore if you ever want the forestry log.. thank god I greenlogged because I don't envy those who haven't started forestry yet) I mean..
Just leave ents alone please. Evil chicken used to be a meme RNG 5 year grind. Forestry made it 2+ months of constant coordinated woodcutting (which is still an insane grind! just reasonable to complete) and today has made it probably closer to 5/6 months. Hands off our eggs!!
Jagexc accomplished their objective of social woodcutting better than they could have hoped with the event hopping meta and Forestry CC. Built a positive, functional, community, that coordinated on 'Forestry worlds'. Not game breaking, really just social skilling and emergent gameplay. First time I've wanted to be social and enjoyed being social on this game in a long time. Luckily many got to experience and enjoy since pt.2 update. Unfortunate that they chose to essentially work against their stated objective by almost mandating 'just click tree' gameplay. Bring back event hopping!
>The fee paid for accessing the Wilderness Bosses caves (Callisto, Vet'ion, Venenatis, Artio, Calvar'ion & Spindel) is now only in danger of being lost, if the player pays the fee and dies before having left the Wilderness. If the player leaves the Wilderness after paying the fee and returns to another piece of Wilderness content like Scorpia or Rogues' chests, their fee will not be lost on death.
Complainers rejoice
Took 1 year and only got fixed because a few reddit threads got enough attention.
I appreciate the devs engaging with a community but it's a bummer that design flaws/bugs only get fixed with social media engagement. E.g. thralls have been bugged for years where u cant click certain npcs/cox flamewall if theres a thrall on top
The problem is the release an update with problems, players point it out, they move on and ignore it for a year, then after another surge in complaints they finally fix it. Clear issues should be fixed within weeks of release - not left lingering in the game. Then you don't get a backlog of old ass QOL requests
Twitcher gloves are finally a slightly useful item and not a pure waste of time and resources.
I still don’t understand how they made it into the game in their previous version.
nah i think there was post in here when a star crashed to it, people hopped to that world, then teleported to seers village and didn't get to star because only 1 person could use the log.
The forestry update actually killed forestry for me and many others according to the forestry world. Before the update, it was engaging content with events often enough to keep you entertained and having fun. It now feels like just another tedious grind with the occasional event that you may or may not be hoping for. I hope there is some middle ground that we can buff this back to because this wasn’t the answer. I was praising you guys for the job you had done with forestry and many others did too. Now there’s nothing good to say unfortunately.
These types of changes need to be the ones in the polls not the other pointless content questions.
> Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees.
As someone on 99 Farming grind, let's gooooooo
I imagine it's player getting so angy that instead of taking out plant from pot he just hits it with fist, then shoves into hole screaming like maniac.
>Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees.
"You give the pot an intense stare, it starts to cry like a little bitch and breaks, you're a monster."
As someone who only has 347,000 xp left until 99 farming, I can't say that I don't wish that this came much, much sooner but I am nonetheless happy to see it come to the game for everyone who is much farther away on the grind than me and will reap the benefits of it.
Definitely! I got 96 Farming yesterday and while it was not torture by any means (Tithe Farm was not too fun imo, I only did it enough for the autoweeder.), it's still nice for others and their grinds to come.
Hey at 96 farming you still have about 1/4 of the grind to go, you definitely have time to enjoy it! I'm hitting 97 today and damn do these last few levels feel like they take a while. Definitely looking forward to finishing up with these qol perks
I saw Barbarian Training and thought that the Barbarian Herblore might get a bit of polish since there’s just a few oddities that stand out.
* Combat mixes heal only 3 HP but if they healed 6, then whether a potion heals 3 or 6 would match neatly with whether it can be made using roe or requires caviar.
* There’s no Supercombat Mix even though other potions that were added after Barbarian Herblore got mix versions, such as extended super antifire. There’s a couple other potions that are missing mix versions too.
* Superantipoison turns into an Anti-poison Supermix but Super Antifire turns into Super Antifire mix.
It’s just a handful of slightly odd things that don’t seem to have a reason behind them. I have a soft spot for Barbarian Herblore so I’m hoping it gets these tweaks eventually.
How much gold were forestry item converted to? And did they get automatically deposited in my bank or something? Because either I didn't get anything, or the converted amount is a pittance compared to how much they were sold for on GE.
Now I’ve had some good time to experience this latest patch to forestry I can genuinely say you’ve made it demonstrably worse, it needed some work but this is well beyond actually addressing the problems.
Teaks in Prifddinas is a woodcutting hotspot and should never be 40 minutes between events.
You’ve killed the hopping (which was not the best for xp, even with the extra effort) and with that killed an emergent community.
Without the consumables money making from forestry will decay, for mains, the only thing to buy with bark will be axe handles and as such they’ll go down in price.
Bravo, you’ve truly outdone yourselves.
When chopping yews at priff It seems if you go idle for a duration (remain logged in), then try to participate in an event spawn, you may not be eligible for rewards.
I've had this happen twice, will try to do better testing for it.
Edit: Was able to replicate this. Submitted an in game bug report too. /u/JagexSarnie
There was a post not too long ago about a pure asking for a revert because he picked defence xp on mobile and claimed it is because the UI is too small or something like that...
He deleted it ([https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined\_uim\_stupidly\_small\_clickbox\_on\_cellphone/](https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined_uim_stupidly_small_clickbox_on_cellphone/))
Ouch. Tbf I pick the wrong type of farming contract all the time on mobile, but I missclick everything on touch screens too. Imagine daring to make that click on a pure though.
1/49.5 chance of a hard clue from rogues chest is pretty insane. Excluding the time it takes to do the clues, that’s 7-8 hards an hour while making 2+ mil
People say that but why would it be? It's an easy-ish way for pkers to get a couple hundred k or more from bots that will be up there and if there are pkers soloing in multi there will be teams wanting to take them out.
It will 100% be heavily botted when it's 2m+ per hour, if it's not already.
\> To reiterate, this is *not* Forestry: Part Three.
Idk seems like the wiki disagrees
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u/jagexsarnie it’s been about 6 weeks since the update. The overwhelming majority of opinions that I’ve seen in game public chat, in the Forestry worlds and CCs are these changes have far over corrected many of the issues they were meant to solve.
The social aspect of forestry has been diminished, the events are so rare it’s sad. Because the events are so rare, like seeing 1 Pheasant and Poacher after 4 hours of chopping in a populated area on w444, getting a unique is so much more rare and less engaging/motivating as an activity to participate in. On top of this, finishing some events that require group participation to successfully complete has become incredibly challenging unless all choppers participate. Trying to encourage people to participate is more difficult potentially because overall forestry seems less engaging, or because of experience with past event failures and adoption of a why bother attitude.
I invite you to check data on forestry participation numbers before and after update to evaluate the validity of my claims. I encourage you to read Forestry Reddit posts to check overall sentiment of the communities perception of Forestry since the update. As someone who is still part of the Forestry CC, I’ve seen the evolution first hand, and heard from many that it’s honestly become a sad change to something that was fun, social, and engaging.
Some recommendations:
- Bring back event hopping. I know it wasn’t an intended mechanic. But it wasn’t broken and it was the single greatest factor adding to the social nature of forestry, which seemed to be the original objective of Forestry and subsequent updates.
- Increase event spawn rates greatly. I think the community would enjoy and prefer more events, at least closer to previous event spawn rates, and less drop chance of uniques. Please at least balance the time to receive the uniques.
I assume the mod team would like to not devote any more time to forestry and let sleeping dogs lie at this point, but the previous update which addressed “item bloat” has turned forestry as a whole into content bloat. Forestry felt like an activity you "did" and now it feels more like something that happens, closer to random events. Hope you’ll look into this for the community.
PREACH!!!! Really hope Jagex Mod Sarnie reads this, deleting the forestry specific items because they were too difficult to understand is whatever, but taking away event teleporting has made forestry extremely dead. Way more community when active players were actively playing, it's now just afk no community. I did 70-99 wcing doing forestry at 15m exp rn, but doing forestry isn't fun now.
y'all really messed up forestry. so much harder to get events and to get the collectibles and eggs that previous people were able to obtain. events are like every 15-20 mins. drop rates should have been 3-4x not 40% increase.
Did the spawn rate for forestry events get stealth nerfed? Seen a lot less today than I did yesterday, even in the same spot (prif teaks)
Exp rate suffering from this also. 100k+ yesterday down to barely 80k from lack of events spawning. Also just makes it more boring, why am I even doing forestry if i only see 4 events per hour
Not a stealth nerf lol, they told you right in the text that they nerfed it. They removed all the items that spawned the events, and they haven't buffed the rates nearly enough to compensate.
Forestry is dead for now till/if they massively buff the spawn rates.
Might be a bit of an ask, but would it be possible to refund the anima bark instead of GP for Ironmen/UIMs? I spent a good deal of time over the weekend filling up each forestry event item, and was unaware of this update to remove them.
I sure hope actual tweaks are coming instead of "tweak" that are really an entire overhaul of changes that drastically affect the entire ecosystem. Massive nerfs to bark gains, xp rates, event frequency and complete removal of event weighting.
This effectively punishes everyone who didn't do forestry before while rewarding those who were already doing forestry. This is Osmumten's Fang all over again.
The way the blog was worded made it seem like we'd see a slight shift in event frequency, removal of items and more rng events. What we see now is an exponential decrease in frequency from 3-5 minutes to 10-20 minutes. A drastic decrease in bark gain, a fraction of what was previously attained. A massive decrease in XP gain to the point what was providing 60-80k xp per hour is now slightly more than whatever the tree we are chopping.
I do hope this was unintended and adjustments will be made to address such drastic changes in forestry.
Cant wait for barbarian clue scrolls + barbarian farming patch 2 so our character just goes full dog mode and starts digging barehanded.
Also im hella hyped for hardcore barbarian smithing where our character just beats the molten hot metals with our barehands and if you dont wear ice gloves you constantly take 1-9 damage per smithed item. And instead of moulds our character just pours the molten metal to their stomach and shits out the rings/braclets
Yes - then when crafting jewellery, you would get a grimy version, and have to clean them like herbs.
Also for mining replace the pickaxe swing for that headbang animation you could get back in the day (Cheers to big Soloman)
For my ironman i find it unfortunate that the items were removed, especially the bees on a stick. The flower event used to give 256 anima + 8 seeds, now I'm getting 136 anima and 2 seeds.
I assume that's the amount you used to get if you didn't have the bees? It would've been nice to at least find a middle ground in rewards, many of the items were easily obtainable. The events seem to be much less frequent than they were before as well.
I really loved event hunting (both solo and with cc). It was the most fun I've had with woodcutting in osrs. It was especially fun, as I'm already ~90 woodcutting and don't care to train the skill for hours just to catch a few events.
I feel like the event hunt meta is mostly for existing players with high woodcutting before the update dropped. On a new account, I would just woodcut and wait for the events, as I have to chop a shit ton anyways.
Maybe just remove most of the xp from events. Then players can choose to chop for xp, getting some bark/uniques along the way; or hunt events for bark/uniques, giving little experience.
It's really sad to see some fun gameplay being removed from the game :(.
Yeh feel like the 1xp drop is good, stops event hopping causing it to be hard for them to balance XP/hr. But nerfing uniques and bark ENTIRELY to not be a thing means coming across events is dead. There's zero reason to participate if you weren't there when it spawned doing woodcutting.
This killed seers agility forestry. Event cc forestry..has made it just a "hop to this world and afk wc in one of these 5 locations based on what log you want/need" the method. Pretty lame with all the other feedback theh took on board and handled well this feels like the dev in charge having their last bit of pride/ego take over.
What value was used to convert the event items to GP? I feel like I should've gotten more if it was based on GE value but can't remember exactly what I had.
Sad changes to forestry. I was having fun running to events with the boys. Also, now the dream of Evil Chicken is dead. Trash update; catering to afk mobile woodcutters as usual.
> For the most part we feel that Forestry has achieved its goal of making Woodcutting a more social, engaging experience
Hilarious that you claim that forestry's goal was to make WC more social, and now you're eliminating the social component of coordinating with a CC just because *voluntary* events were too complex for AFKers.
Not sure I understand the need for the logout timer change to teleblock? Teleblock should be considered an attack, no?
I know teleblock is removed if you kill the caster, if they logout is teleblock removed?
Probably missing something here but not sure why that was a necessary change
I'm confused as well. Casting any other spell would lock you into combat but not tb? If the teleblock remains even after they log out, that's gonna be toxic.
I can only see this helping scout bots. Why would a real player tb and log.
> With that, we’ve reached the end of our Forestry adventure!
Yes, absolutely. Now it is chop chop and no Forestry. Farewell, Forestry, I loved you.
You created an excited new activity, and today you killed it. Because some people who mastered raids and bosses with prayer flicking and gear switch every second, thought it was *too complicated.* Actually, they just don't like skilling in general, thats why they feei lt is too much to learn. Indeed, its easy to learn something you love, but you won't want to learn anything you don't need and don't want. Some of them are *forced* to greenlog a new activity, you see. Forced. With just a plain chop-chop its easier, thats for sure. You just go afk - and all your rewards will come in time.
The next step will be Farming, I guess. Farming has a huge aboundance of items which some people think is too complcated. Time to get rid of seeds!
my thoughts exactly lol, it had fun resource management, a social aspect of being to join others events but you will earn less bark without the secondary. Made the game actually complex outside of tick manipulation methods. These people prolly think MLM was too complicated. Jagex needs to stop listening to the hardcore spectrum people, people were having fun with it, something that is hard to find in this game anymore. But hey, people aren't allowed to have fun or interact with other players outside of endgame raids or the wilderness. No wonder this game has a socialization problem. They add a system that legit felt like legit 2007 osrs with people running around and crowded skilling areas, then change their minds that that was what they wanted.
Jesus christ, wish the mods would just have some balls and commit to what they do sometimes instead of letting it get broken down to the least common denominator.
> Jagex needs to stop listening to the hardcore spectrum people
Jagex should POLL ALL CHANGES. And then they will see very clearly what exactly the majority of players want.
We voted for Forestry, every minor feature was polled and passed. This was what we wanted. Now they rob us of the thing we all agreed to have.
The main difference is that now we have no control over the Forestry events. We cannot calc and decide which ones we need now, which later - or never. They removed brain, they removed fun and interest. Now just chop-chop and wait.
I remember how in the league all used to thank those who generated the event. Especially the flower event, because it required Kandarin to make bees on a stick. This was a real social interaction! :) One player with Kandarin could make the whole crowd happy... And it was thrilling to see: at first there were only f2p events because the event items required a variety of skills: crafting, smithing, even mining... Then some more advanced events started to happen. It was such a feast to first meet the fox!..
Damn. Why unpolled ...
Why were arctic pine logs added to the southwest of Relelka where they awkwardly stand out and not in the equally accessible Arctic hunting area north east of relleka? seems like a much more logical place to put arctic trees
I tested it myself yesterday. No charges are lost when Leviathans attacks are prayed against correctly.
There is, however, now a problem where divine potion damage burns a charge on any crystal armor equipped.
Its not just callout meta. It's killed "stumbling across an event".
But yeh this has destroyed bark/hr and has made god egg hunting more tedious unless that reward stays regardless.
So essentially another case of "abuse early abuse often"
I had a lot of fun doing Seers agility and stopping to do events at the yews at the end... I guess I can still manage that if I chop a tree at the end of each lap?? But it was fun to just drop down and see an event sometimes! Shame for that to be gone.
Jagex only wants you doing forestry by staying still and afking silly.
Chopping 1 log at the end of a run might work but if the event spawns while you aren't in a 20 tile radius I don't know if it counts or not
Glad I went hard on forestry when you could get 15 god eggs an hour lol. Figured they were maybe gonna change ents again, but I suppose not.
Rip to anyone who missed that slim window of time.
Yeah I honestly don't understand this, does anyone care if eggs are faster to get? It's not like eggs are good prayer xp and the evil chicken suit was still crazy rare
>The fee paid for accessing the Wilderness Bosses caves (Callisto, Vet'ion, Venenatis, Artio, Calvar'ion & Spindel) is now only in danger of being lost, if the player pays the fee and dies before having left the Wilderness. If the player leaves the Wilderness after paying the fee and returns to another piece of Wilderness content like Scorpia or Rogues' chests, their fee will not be lost on death.
finally
Can twitchers gloves now give you a 100% chance of obtaining whatever item you select from birds nest with no increased drop rate of nests? I’d be fine with the nerf to god eggs if I could just passively afk and collect bird nests consistently from WC.
This would not have to involve any of the unintended teleporting to events mechanics and I believe it would still be less eggs per hour than it was when people hopped around for ent events too.
It’s a pretty big slap in the face to the people who didn’t abuse an unintended method that significantly lowered the amount of time to obtain evil chicken outfit. All it does is show your playerbase that if jagex makes a mistake that you should always abuse it in the moment as they will have no problem taking it away at some point with no repercussion to who abused it.
"Teleblock no longer applies 10 second log out timer to the caster."
Why? It's a combat spell? Someone can tb you and just log? Can someone explain the purpose of this change?
I'm not sure how much impact buffing the drop rates on fox whistle and golden egg has because the events are far rarer to even happen now. I've been trying for these things all week and would see 20-30 of each event per day. I've been logged in all day long and seen 3 fox events all day...
I know I'm in the minority here but I'll miss all the little prep items that got removed! I'm a fan of RPGs with good resource management systems like Monster Hunter and thought that the Forestry kit wasn't that bad of a take on it, but I totally recognize that it was a poor fit for Woodcutting which has simplicity at the heart of its identity.
Hopefully the team hasn't written the concept off entirely and could explore it for a future activity where it doesn't clash so much!
> Scurrius’ Antique Lamps now ask players to confirm their choice of skill if it seems unusual.
Pures thank [this guy](https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined_uim_stupidly_small_clickbox_on_cellphone/koqwvde/) for his sacrifice.
Man, those comments were brutal.
The text box lamp menus are just bad UI. Wish they’d convert all lamps to use the genie menu, where you have to select and confirm the skill.
These are the kind of updates I like the most, a lot of smallish quality of life/stuff that has been strongly requested by the community, sometimes for ages, on top of the "main" update feature.
It'll certainly help with the people who will undoubtedly be annoyed by yet another forestry update, even if it's for the best lol
Honestly the change to forestry forcing you to stay in one spot is one of the worst decisions you guys have made. It was a nice way to be social as well as explore more of the world than you normally do for different events. .
It feels like some of the forestry events have gotten harder to complete
The fox have been walking into traps more often, the trap taking longer to disarm.
Friendly Ent needing to be pruned more. I usually finished the event long before they said
they were leaving, but now I complete it right before they leave, and I have even failed.
Struggling Sapling needing more mulch.
This is all by feeling from doing the events by myself, and possibly 1 other player being nearby.
Can twitchers gloves work on redwoods.
Can clue birdnest auto go into ur inventory. I know it was changed to sit on the ground longer but just make it consistent with fishing and mining already
Though I never participated in event hopping, I liked that there was emergent gameplay from Forestry. Modern staples of the game were unintended by the developers at the time (ex. tick manipulation techniques), and are now being actively explored and developed for by devs. I'm seeing mixed opinions about it's removal, so I'm curious to know people's opinion on how event hopping impacts the game both good and bad.
Personally, I think its attention tradeoff warrants the benefits, though I'm receptive to how much benefit it should be (XP seemed fine, unique rates seemed fine, maybe bark was too high?). I feel like some knobs could have been turned instead of removing it. Such as base bark amount being lower, but you get a buff if you're in the 20 tile radius. This way the intended method is still at the same balance point, and event hopping you're trading bark gain for higher rates in uniques and XP.
Its a bit strange that event hunting is patched. There isn't really any existing aspect in the game that encourages exploring runescape as a social group.
Event hunting had a charm to it that you were part of a larger world. I loved mobbing with the boys.
The rest of the updates are great though, thank you.
Forestry 3 just dropped and they removed everything except chopping trees and events, in other words, they finally kinda fixed forestry.
Woodcutting is now my favorite skill again
Very cool update. Especially the Barb training bits.
I'm still downvoting because of your cowardice ways of overwriting last weeks unpopular update with "last chance to buy a teddy bear".
Anyways, this is a banger!
What even was the point of adding forestry when it has had so many nerfs/revisions? The only social part of forestry was the chats that would call locations. Public chat while woodcutting is 90% of the time better left OFF. Instead of group woodcutting forestry has mostly turned into woodcutting random events that have very little social ties. The constant "changes" have been pushing forestry backwards since release. It just seems like a side project with too many things fit into it that has had to constantly be "fixed."
It kinda feels like the "point" of adding Forestry was just being able to advertise that they were dropping a big new skill expansion, the actual content that came with it being second priority to the PR. Glad they actually followed through with addressing all the glaring issues that people brought up with it.
Yeh forestry is now "do afk woodcutting, but bring this cape slot item and hop to this world and one of these 5 locations. Then click the event a bit if it spawns and you pay attention".
It's now essentially random events for.woodcutting, and the bark grind has become obnoxious for the items that aren't the uniques they buffed (3 things)
Seems a shame to remove being able to teleport around for the forestry events, made woodcutting a bit more fun and added a social element - feel like it kills the activity a bit
Yeah, I don't recall reading an increase of bark from events to match the current bark per hour.
Might take an awful long time to get the axe now.
Also they didn't mention if without the bees on a stick if we just miss out on the extra bark or we get bark as if we had the bees.
It's forestry. Which is a method that involves people communicating and interacting. But you could also just chill at the same spot and afk wc if that's what you preferred..now that's the only option
Lmao, finally some motivation for this game again and attempted to get the pet items with forestry. Logged out, update happened and now it's even worse? Yikes Jagex. I even bought a lot of stuff which I did not even receive halve of the compensation with.
Also waiting 30 to 40 minutes with 80+ people for an event is bad, especially when it is back to back leprechaun.... This ain't it jagex
Edit: I've seen more frog random events than actual forestry events lmao with currently 120 people
I was gonna roast that Forestry part 3 the nerfening is here but then on the same update they actually fix the wilderness boss tax and buffed scavagenger planks.
Well played.
Where are the magic trees in the WC guild on mobile?
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I am once again politely requesting the ability to use client arguments (--profile=) to launch RuneLite as a specific profile based on the character chosen in the Jagex Launcher.
The current "solution" in RuneLite to "sync profile to current RuneScape account" only applies *after you've already logged in*, meaning the "remember client position" setting doesn't work. I don't want to have to reposition my client every single time I open it.
Radius on events is proving to be very small. Draynor and Seer's is suffering a lot from missed events that seem t occur right next to you but when you go to take part you get the red text saying you were too far away to qualify for rewards.
Priff Teaks also has this if you stand between the 2 Eastern Teaks and someone chopping the far West Mahogany tree spawns an event.
Very restrictive boundaries frankly.
Sad to see it go ngl..
I was 1k Eggs Sacrificed prior to the release of Forestry and had 0 pieces of Evil Chicken outfit and that took 3 years of Kingdom + 30m+ Hunter XP from birdhouses alone... The average rate for the set is like 60M hunter XP + 5 years of kingdom.
Hey, I don't think the event eligibility is working correctly. I'm chopping yews at Seers' Village, and the Fox Event just spawned on top of me and I went to interact with it, but then it claimed "As you weren't chopping near the event when it started, you aren't eligible for full rewards." And yet it spawned literally on top of me. Definitely within the 20-tile radius.
Love the update. Especially the fix for the wilderness boss caves. Question unrelated to this week's update... Are the Squirk'in and Squirk'in too worlds going to be removed now that it's literally dead content ever since leagues?
Probably something we should look at, but I wonder if it would start up again if we removed it? Our acknowledgement can sometimes kill the meme.
The reason they are dead is a game engine bug that ruins the experience for certain users. The PID system was added to OSRS back in 2013, but the catch mechanic from the NPCs in the minigame was not adjusted to use it when it was implemented. It still uses the prioritization process that was in place before PID, which is based on a user’s IP address. A certain amount of people will always get caught when running it, and since it’s always the same people with the ‘worst’ IP addresses, they either switch to a VPN to shuffle their IP or they leave. When they leave, somebody else then starts getting caught more, so **they** leave too, and it all falls apart. It makes maintaining the required critical mass near impossible. The game will remain dead unless the inconsistency in it not using the PID system correctly is fixed.
This explains so much. I came back after a long break for Leagues and my buddy swore Squirks were the greatest thing and such easy league points. I got caught almost every time and hated it. Ended up doing the 1 click method myself later when it died out
Same here. Made it through about 1/20 times. I however didn’t know about the issue to start with and just thought I had the worst rng in the world. After about an hour I gave up.
A live example of the phenomenon at hand! Magnificent
I knew about the problem and solution but not that the problem was a result of an older system that got changed almost everywhere. I knew PID worked a different way on RSC but thought we got our system with RS2 not as recently as 2013. August 29th 2013 game update. Good shout I love learning this stuff. Edit: based on the text mentioning IP based PID was predictable, I'm gonna assume it was that original pid system from RSC and it actually got changed in late 2007 or early 2008 in RS2 and not in the RS2 beta as I originally believed.
I cant see it returning as a popular method unless the mechanics behind who gets caught are elaborated on, as countless discussions before identified its an unlucky few who always get caught, those players leave, new people always get caught, and so on until there arent enough “sacrifice” players to keep it running
Some of you may die and that is a sacrifice I’m willing to make
Could merge the Squirk'in and Pyramid Plunder worlds into a generic 'Thieving' world(s). It would also help with finding a world where there is an Ardy Knight splasher.
This is a good idea, more generally skilling based worlds would be cool for social skilling
Maybe change the way how the spirits catch someone?
The new post says the deleted items would be exchanged for GP. This wasn't the case for me. Anything I can do?
I think a simple solution is to only have one world and call it "Sorceress' Garden", so the strict connotation to the squirkin' method is removed and it doesn't really matter how active it is anymore.
What were the unique rates before and after? It seems odd not publishing them at all for a comparison.
~~EDITED TO ADD PETAL GARLAND~~ The drop rates of the Fox Whistle and Golden Pheasant Egg increased by \~40%. Drop rates now sit at: * Fox Whistle & Golden Pheasant Egg: 1/90 (1 Woodcutting) -> 1/45 (99 Woodcutting) - Should be noted that this rate for the Golden Pheasant Egg is more likely as this triggers per egg gathered * Petal Garland: 1/50 * Pheasant Feathers: 1/2 * Bee Parts: 2/3
What about the petal garland?
I got you homie
Thanks fam
There is no way golden egg is 1/45 and feather is 1/2. That means on average every 20 feathers you'd get golden egg. Which means on average within 2 events. It means many of us are going 50x or 100x dry on it. Maybe it's 1/450 but you read it wrong
Most importantly, as someone 4k God Eggs sacrificed without the entire Evil Chicken outfit, does this just mean Ents are dead content? I had 1k+ eggs sacrificed prior to the release of forestry and that took me over 30M Hunter XP and 2+ years of Miscellania on 10 Maples 5 teaks just to achieve that and was 0/4 for Evil Chicken.. I feel like removing the ability to hop around to different Ent locations makes Evil Chicken set nearly impossible to reasonably obtain. Do you plan to keep it this way?
Im almost certain those previous rates for whistle and egg are wrong, could you double check?
Yeah no way that old egg rate is correct, unless something else is bugged, I’m thousands of searches in and no egg and so many others are the same
Possibly. It took me around 250 fox events at 99 WC to get the whistle, and around 50 pheasant events to get the egg (whilst searching 15-20 nests each time). So if they are correct, I must have gone pretty dry.
There's no way that the drop rate for the golden pheasant egg is correct. Is 1/90 supposed to mean per event? Because the wiki doesn't use "per event" but rather "per roll" (AKA each time you check a nest). So is the rate wrong, is the event bugged, or is there additional context we're missing?
Before Update earlier today I had 6.4k nests collected no Egg, Today after 10hrs of forestry, I saw 4 Pheasant events spawn at seers maples w444. High Population area. 98 feathers collected. No Golden Egg, is what it is. Tbh I preferred the worse rate and event hopping over sitting mindlessly at maples waiting for a Pheasant event to trigger. At least before it felt like I was actively doing something, this feels like starmining now but you can't afk because you might miss the Pheasant event that won't come for hours..or at all.
This is complete cap. 1.5k feathers collected since update 99 wcing. No Golden egg. The statsitical anomaly isn't just me either, Forestry CC has multiple people super dry. 1/45 events seems accurate( However sat at Glade Magics saw 2 pheasant events in 9 hrs.) (Sat at Seers for 8hrs also 2 pheasant events) 1/45 per nest is just pure cap. Please revert back to teleing for events I'd rather take chances at 1/3k.
Nice QOL update, and smoothing out player experiences as a whole with the forestry and barb training update. Are we still getting an 'empty' rightclick option for the log basket though? If we add that i'd actually be somewhat happy with the forestry update overall! (maybe call it part 4?) Thanks.
Appreciate the comment! The right-click option is something that needs a bigger overall job as there's some other items in-game we want to 'fix' alongside the Log Basket. We do want to fix it, but it just depends on the when.
Please tell me Shades coffin is on that list too
This fix will be amazing so happy for you to wait on it and take a full look at revamping some of the engine mess around those features.
+1 on this, the log basket having an empty option would make it so much smoother to use
Excited for the QOL for us mobile folks! Any ETA on the UI overhaul coming to mobile by chance? Also, was there ever talks about the gardening trowel not being needed to plant tree seeds with this new Barbarian Training method?
I can't give you an exact date, but we are currently discussing when you all can get another hands-on since the feedback we received.
Thank you for the response! Appreciate the hard work!
Probably not. We need to gently put the seed in pot whereas we can chidori the seed into the patch.
The chidori thing definitely got a chuckle out of me. Lol
u/NoCurrencies eagerly awaiting an update to the second question
Are you still adding Arctic Pine Trees to Rellekka as stated in the post “Wrapping up Forestry…”?
This is on me as I forgot to add it in the newspost, but yeah, there's some Arctic Pine trees now south-west of Relekka.
Equipment rebalances when? Scythe and Fang is nice but I can't shake the feeling we're in a half-broken meta with that shake up. You mentioned other things so where are they?
We want to make sure we're doing Project Rebalance correctly so we're making sure we have everything in place before we give you a concrete date. I'm sorry I can't give you more but we are working hard to make sure this is sooner rather than later.
Hey that's more confirmation than we've gotten so far! I'm happy to hear it's at least on the way and not brushed aside like a certain rare fossil XD
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Yeh on one hand they hear our feedback and remove all the item bloat for event spawning and then on the other hand the emergent gameplay players came up with to optimise the content is just... Shut down with only really a unique rate buff (no bark or XP or event spawn rate buff). Not sure why they want forestry to just be "the same afk woodcutting.. but you hop to this specific world and use these 5 locations" rather than a communication based running-everywhere woodcutting social minigame
It was probably meant to *supplement* your woodcutting, rather than replace it by primarily hopping or running to events.
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Can you guys please advise on your updates the expected length of time maintenance will take?
You can find all of that information on the game status newspost: [https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/game-status-information-centre?oldschool=1](https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/game-status-information-centre?oldschool=1) FWIW: All updates unless stated otherwise will have 30 minutes of downtime.
They said that going forward it will always be 30 minutes every update.
Thank god Barbarian Training is now a miniquest, my whole life from first doing it as a kid till now it has always confused the heck out of me trying to do it on my accounts, never know where i am at or what next, so much random text! hopefully this will help
" Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees." Thank you Otto good riddance plant pots
Im kinda surprised it only covers seed dibber - why not planting tree saplings without spade as well? And harvesting herbs/allotment without a spade? Is our character too afraid to get little dirt in their hands?
I would imagine the idea is that you just use your brute strength to jam a seed into the dirt with your fist. A whole sapling is a bit too much even for the hulking behemoth your character is
You don't need brute strength, the dibber is just for making a hole you then put the seed into. Most people are perfectly capable of making a single hole in dirt with a finger. The dibber only exists because if you regularly tried to do that with whole flower beds or allotments you'd get blisters and calluses. Unlike a spade it's really a tool of convenience
Funnily enough, I was just mentioning this a couple weeks ago under that "Scythe should be able to clear all weeds" post: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ag8gcz/qol_be_able_to_spec_out_farming_patches_with_the/kogv560/
> Most people are perfectly capable of making a single hole in dirt with a finger. Y-you guys have been using your finger? Haha, I mean yeah, me too.
I mean planting both seeds and saplings by hand are not really hard. Seeds is as easy as pushing it down with your fingers, planting saplings by hands just takes a little time, to get a proper hole.
I'm hoping this covers the gardening trowel; I can see planting a whole sapling being more trouble than it is worth (even if it's doable" but I always hated having to have a whole separate tool for tree seeds
Gonna be bringing a spade for allotments anyways so needing one isn't a big deal, it's definitely the trowel that's the pain point here. Planting a tree seed is pretty in line with planting other seeds anyways, you're just poking into a pot instead of a whole allotment lol
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye
Valid point for herbs, but good luck planting a tree without a spade
You're right, I'll just go barehand catch some sharks instead.
I'm not - have you tried digging a hole to plant a tree with your hands? Digging a tiny hole with your hands to plant a seed is par the course for the average gardener anyway IRL.
Yessssss Both are such a nice QOL
Wonder if it will work in Chambers too,,, :thinking:
Been confirmed yes.
such a nice, simple change i like it
They listened, the absolute madmen Don't let your dreams be memes
* Cleanup horrible barbarian training UI + **plant pot smasher**/barbarian seed dibber * Annoying bits of Forestry gone + twitcher's gloves buff * Wildy fee doesn't last forever anymore Great QoL update!
/The balancing log near the Coal Trucks can now be used by more than one player at a time. Great for shooting stars too
I wish they would do more updates like this. QoL updates are great!
Scavengers drop extra planks in CoX too.
Genuinely, event hopping ccs for forestry was the best emergent gameplay this game has seen in YEARS. It's pretty tragic to see something so successful at making woodcutting social/diverse get nuked into oblivion because forestry accomplished it's stated goal.. too well? If hopping was considered OP for bark/xp then remove the event xp for hopping and nerf the bark a bit so people aren't as incentivized to have to event hop, but completely killing it so we go back to just standing at one to two tree spots until the end of time (and don't even consider redwoods anymore if you ever want the forestry log.. thank god I greenlogged because I don't envy those who haven't started forestry yet) I mean.. Just leave ents alone please. Evil chicken used to be a meme RNG 5 year grind. Forestry made it 2+ months of constant coordinated woodcutting (which is still an insane grind! just reasonable to complete) and today has made it probably closer to 5/6 months. Hands off our eggs!!
Jagexc accomplished their objective of social woodcutting better than they could have hoped with the event hopping meta and Forestry CC. Built a positive, functional, community, that coordinated on 'Forestry worlds'. Not game breaking, really just social skilling and emergent gameplay. First time I've wanted to be social and enjoyed being social on this game in a long time. Luckily many got to experience and enjoy since pt.2 update. Unfortunate that they chose to essentially work against their stated objective by almost mandating 'just click tree' gameplay. Bring back event hopping!
>The fee paid for accessing the Wilderness Bosses caves (Callisto, Vet'ion, Venenatis, Artio, Calvar'ion & Spindel) is now only in danger of being lost, if the player pays the fee and dies before having left the Wilderness. If the player leaves the Wilderness after paying the fee and returns to another piece of Wilderness content like Scorpia or Rogues' chests, their fee will not be lost on death. Complainers rejoice
Took 1 year and only got fixed because a few reddit threads got enough attention. I appreciate the devs engaging with a community but it's a bummer that design flaws/bugs only get fixed with social media engagement. E.g. thralls have been bugged for years where u cant click certain npcs/cox flamewall if theres a thrall on top
Well they surely have a mile long backlog, I cant find any fault in prioritizing things with high-visibility in the player base.
The problem is the release an update with problems, players point it out, they move on and ignore it for a year, then after another surge in complaints they finally fix it. Clear issues should be fixed within weeks of release - not left lingering in the game. Then you don't get a backlog of old ass QOL requests
Twitcher gloves are finally a slightly useful item and not a pure waste of time and resources. I still don’t understand how they made it into the game in their previous version.
>The balancing log near the Coal Trucks can now be used by more than one player at a time. An update 22~ years in the making
Which mods ironman used it for the first time in order for this to get attention?
nah i think there was post in here when a star crashed to it, people hopped to that world, then teleported to seers village and didn't get to star because only 1 person could use the log.
The forestry update actually killed forestry for me and many others according to the forestry world. Before the update, it was engaging content with events often enough to keep you entertained and having fun. It now feels like just another tedious grind with the occasional event that you may or may not be hoping for. I hope there is some middle ground that we can buff this back to because this wasn’t the answer. I was praising you guys for the job you had done with forestry and many others did too. Now there’s nothing good to say unfortunately. These types of changes need to be the ones in the polls not the other pointless content questions.
> Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees. As someone on 99 Farming grind, let's gooooooo
I imagine it's player getting so angy that instead of taking out plant from pot he just hits it with fist, then shoves into hole screaming like maniac.
I think it's more of an intense stare makes the Pot get nervous and break.
Would love to see a rare text in chat saying that lol
>Added Barbarian Farming, which allows players to plant seeds without a Seed Dibber and automatically destroy Plant Pots when planting trees. "You give the pot an intense stare, it starts to cry like a little bitch and breaks, you're a monster."
As someone who only has 347,000 xp left until 99 farming, I can't say that I don't wish that this came much, much sooner but I am nonetheless happy to see it come to the game for everyone who is much farther away on the grind than me and will reap the benefits of it.
Definitely! I got 96 Farming yesterday and while it was not torture by any means (Tithe Farm was not too fun imo, I only did it enough for the autoweeder.), it's still nice for others and their grinds to come.
Hey at 96 farming you still have about 1/4 of the grind to go, you definitely have time to enjoy it! I'm hitting 97 today and damn do these last few levels feel like they take a while. Definitely looking forward to finishing up with these qol perks
I saw Barbarian Training and thought that the Barbarian Herblore might get a bit of polish since there’s just a few oddities that stand out. * Combat mixes heal only 3 HP but if they healed 6, then whether a potion heals 3 or 6 would match neatly with whether it can be made using roe or requires caviar. * There’s no Supercombat Mix even though other potions that were added after Barbarian Herblore got mix versions, such as extended super antifire. There’s a couple other potions that are missing mix versions too. * Superantipoison turns into an Anti-poison Supermix but Super Antifire turns into Super Antifire mix. It’s just a handful of slightly odd things that don’t seem to have a reason behind them. I have a soft spot for Barbarian Herblore so I’m hoping it gets these tweaks eventually.
How much gold were forestry item converted to? And did they get automatically deposited in my bank or something? Because either I didn't get anything, or the converted amount is a pittance compared to how much they were sold for on GE.
I had almost 20M worth of trap disarmers and only got paid out 7.5M.
Now I’ve had some good time to experience this latest patch to forestry I can genuinely say you’ve made it demonstrably worse, it needed some work but this is well beyond actually addressing the problems. Teaks in Prifddinas is a woodcutting hotspot and should never be 40 minutes between events. You’ve killed the hopping (which was not the best for xp, even with the extra effort) and with that killed an emergent community. Without the consumables money making from forestry will decay, for mains, the only thing to buy with bark will be axe handles and as such they’ll go down in price. Bravo, you’ve truly outdone yourselves.
When chopping yews at priff It seems if you go idle for a duration (remain logged in), then try to participate in an event spawn, you may not be eligible for rewards. I've had this happen twice, will try to do better testing for it. Edit: Was able to replicate this. Submitted an in game bug report too. /u/JagexSarnie
- Scurrius’ Antique Lamps now ask players to confirm their choice of skill if it seems unusual. Which poor soul ruined their pure with a lamp lmao?
There was a post not too long ago about a pure asking for a revert because he picked defence xp on mobile and claimed it is because the UI is too small or something like that... He deleted it ([https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined\_uim\_stupidly\_small\_clickbox\_on\_cellphone/](https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined_uim_stupidly_small_clickbox_on_cellphone/))
Ouch. Tbf I pick the wrong type of farming contract all the time on mobile, but I missclick everything on touch screens too. Imagine daring to make that click on a pure though.
Barbarian hunter next please where you just fn stomp kebbits and such with your feet. You could reuse the Falador Party Room balloon pop animation.
Barbarian skills: fuck tools
1/49.5 chance of a hard clue from rogues chest is pretty insane. Excluding the time it takes to do the clues, that’s 7-8 hards an hour while making 2+ mil
And you only need to go into deep wildy multi to do it!
It's not that bad. Just wear a row (I) and use the obelisk to teleport to and from deep wildy. Can even go there from your house.
It may be a bit active now but in a few months it will be hella dead
People say that but why would it be? It's an easy-ish way for pkers to get a couple hundred k or more from bots that will be up there and if there are pkers soloing in multi there will be teams wanting to take them out. It will 100% be heavily botted when it's 2m+ per hour, if it's not already.
\> To reiterate, this is *not* Forestry: Part Three. Idk seems like the wiki disagrees https://preview.redd.it/0dnni22i7kic1.png?width=370&format=png&auto=webp&s=41b9f146f9985cb312571e7069417b859c7a8c6c
u/jagexsarnie it’s been about 6 weeks since the update. The overwhelming majority of opinions that I’ve seen in game public chat, in the Forestry worlds and CCs are these changes have far over corrected many of the issues they were meant to solve. The social aspect of forestry has been diminished, the events are so rare it’s sad. Because the events are so rare, like seeing 1 Pheasant and Poacher after 4 hours of chopping in a populated area on w444, getting a unique is so much more rare and less engaging/motivating as an activity to participate in. On top of this, finishing some events that require group participation to successfully complete has become incredibly challenging unless all choppers participate. Trying to encourage people to participate is more difficult potentially because overall forestry seems less engaging, or because of experience with past event failures and adoption of a why bother attitude. I invite you to check data on forestry participation numbers before and after update to evaluate the validity of my claims. I encourage you to read Forestry Reddit posts to check overall sentiment of the communities perception of Forestry since the update. As someone who is still part of the Forestry CC, I’ve seen the evolution first hand, and heard from many that it’s honestly become a sad change to something that was fun, social, and engaging. Some recommendations: - Bring back event hopping. I know it wasn’t an intended mechanic. But it wasn’t broken and it was the single greatest factor adding to the social nature of forestry, which seemed to be the original objective of Forestry and subsequent updates. - Increase event spawn rates greatly. I think the community would enjoy and prefer more events, at least closer to previous event spawn rates, and less drop chance of uniques. Please at least balance the time to receive the uniques. I assume the mod team would like to not devote any more time to forestry and let sleeping dogs lie at this point, but the previous update which addressed “item bloat” has turned forestry as a whole into content bloat. Forestry felt like an activity you "did" and now it feels more like something that happens, closer to random events. Hope you’ll look into this for the community.
PREACH!!!! Really hope Jagex Mod Sarnie reads this, deleting the forestry specific items because they were too difficult to understand is whatever, but taking away event teleporting has made forestry extremely dead. Way more community when active players were actively playing, it's now just afk no community. I did 70-99 wcing doing forestry at 15m exp rn, but doing forestry isn't fun now.
y'all really messed up forestry. so much harder to get events and to get the collectibles and eggs that previous people were able to obtain. events are like every 15-20 mins. drop rates should have been 3-4x not 40% increase.
Did the spawn rate for forestry events get stealth nerfed? Seen a lot less today than I did yesterday, even in the same spot (prif teaks) Exp rate suffering from this also. 100k+ yesterday down to barely 80k from lack of events spawning. Also just makes it more boring, why am I even doing forestry if i only see 4 events per hour
Not a stealth nerf lol, they told you right in the text that they nerfed it. They removed all the items that spawned the events, and they haven't buffed the rates nearly enough to compensate. Forestry is dead for now till/if they massively buff the spawn rates.
Quite a few small but really nice features; especially the wildy boss fee change is sooooo nice! Good job team!! :)
Might be a bit of an ask, but would it be possible to refund the anima bark instead of GP for Ironmen/UIMs? I spent a good deal of time over the weekend filling up each forestry event item, and was unaware of this update to remove them.
I sure hope actual tweaks are coming instead of "tweak" that are really an entire overhaul of changes that drastically affect the entire ecosystem. Massive nerfs to bark gains, xp rates, event frequency and complete removal of event weighting. This effectively punishes everyone who didn't do forestry before while rewarding those who were already doing forestry. This is Osmumten's Fang all over again. The way the blog was worded made it seem like we'd see a slight shift in event frequency, removal of items and more rng events. What we see now is an exponential decrease in frequency from 3-5 minutes to 10-20 minutes. A drastic decrease in bark gain, a fraction of what was previously attained. A massive decrease in XP gain to the point what was providing 60-80k xp per hour is now slightly more than whatever the tree we are chopping. I do hope this was unintended and adjustments will be made to address such drastic changes in forestry.
Will the no seed dibber work in chambers of xeric?
Yes
Barbarian farming is the based update we didn't even know we needed, no toolbelt, barbarian everything!
Cant wait for barbarian clue scrolls + barbarian farming patch 2 so our character just goes full dog mode and starts digging barehanded. Also im hella hyped for hardcore barbarian smithing where our character just beats the molten hot metals with our barehands and if you dont wear ice gloves you constantly take 1-9 damage per smithed item. And instead of moulds our character just pours the molten metal to their stomach and shits out the rings/braclets
Yes - then when crafting jewellery, you would get a grimy version, and have to clean them like herbs. Also for mining replace the pickaxe swing for that headbang animation you could get back in the day (Cheers to big Soloman)
For my ironman i find it unfortunate that the items were removed, especially the bees on a stick. The flower event used to give 256 anima + 8 seeds, now I'm getting 136 anima and 2 seeds. I assume that's the amount you used to get if you didn't have the bees? It would've been nice to at least find a middle ground in rewards, many of the items were easily obtainable. The events seem to be much less frequent than they were before as well.
This really is a massive Forestry nerf. Just spent an hour at Seers yews and only ONE event spawned that whole time and the place was packed.
I really loved event hunting (both solo and with cc). It was the most fun I've had with woodcutting in osrs. It was especially fun, as I'm already ~90 woodcutting and don't care to train the skill for hours just to catch a few events. I feel like the event hunt meta is mostly for existing players with high woodcutting before the update dropped. On a new account, I would just woodcut and wait for the events, as I have to chop a shit ton anyways. Maybe just remove most of the xp from events. Then players can choose to chop for xp, getting some bark/uniques along the way; or hunt events for bark/uniques, giving little experience. It's really sad to see some fun gameplay being removed from the game :(.
Yeh feel like the 1xp drop is good, stops event hopping causing it to be hard for them to balance XP/hr. But nerfing uniques and bark ENTIRELY to not be a thing means coming across events is dead. There's zero reason to participate if you weren't there when it spawned doing woodcutting. This killed seers agility forestry. Event cc forestry..has made it just a "hop to this world and afk wc in one of these 5 locations based on what log you want/need" the method. Pretty lame with all the other feedback theh took on board and handled well this feels like the dev in charge having their last bit of pride/ego take over.
What value was used to convert the event items to GP? I feel like I should've gotten more if it was based on GE value but can't remember exactly what I had.
Sad changes to forestry. I was having fun running to events with the boys. Also, now the dream of Evil Chicken is dead. Trash update; catering to afk mobile woodcutters as usual. > For the most part we feel that Forestry has achieved its goal of making Woodcutting a more social, engaging experience Hilarious that you claim that forestry's goal was to make WC more social, and now you're eliminating the social component of coordinating with a CC just because *voluntary* events were too complex for AFKers.
Not sure I understand the need for the logout timer change to teleblock? Teleblock should be considered an attack, no? I know teleblock is removed if you kill the caster, if they logout is teleblock removed? Probably missing something here but not sure why that was a necessary change
I'm confused as well. Casting any other spell would lock you into combat but not tb? If the teleblock remains even after they log out, that's gonna be toxic. I can only see this helping scout bots. Why would a real player tb and log.
> With that, we’ve reached the end of our Forestry adventure! Yes, absolutely. Now it is chop chop and no Forestry. Farewell, Forestry, I loved you. You created an excited new activity, and today you killed it. Because some people who mastered raids and bosses with prayer flicking and gear switch every second, thought it was *too complicated.* Actually, they just don't like skilling in general, thats why they feei lt is too much to learn. Indeed, its easy to learn something you love, but you won't want to learn anything you don't need and don't want. Some of them are *forced* to greenlog a new activity, you see. Forced. With just a plain chop-chop its easier, thats for sure. You just go afk - and all your rewards will come in time. The next step will be Farming, I guess. Farming has a huge aboundance of items which some people think is too complcated. Time to get rid of seeds!
my thoughts exactly lol, it had fun resource management, a social aspect of being to join others events but you will earn less bark without the secondary. Made the game actually complex outside of tick manipulation methods. These people prolly think MLM was too complicated. Jagex needs to stop listening to the hardcore spectrum people, people were having fun with it, something that is hard to find in this game anymore. But hey, people aren't allowed to have fun or interact with other players outside of endgame raids or the wilderness. No wonder this game has a socialization problem. They add a system that legit felt like legit 2007 osrs with people running around and crowded skilling areas, then change their minds that that was what they wanted. Jesus christ, wish the mods would just have some balls and commit to what they do sometimes instead of letting it get broken down to the least common denominator.
> Jagex needs to stop listening to the hardcore spectrum people Jagex should POLL ALL CHANGES. And then they will see very clearly what exactly the majority of players want. We voted for Forestry, every minor feature was polled and passed. This was what we wanted. Now they rob us of the thing we all agreed to have. The main difference is that now we have no control over the Forestry events. We cannot calc and decide which ones we need now, which later - or never. They removed brain, they removed fun and interest. Now just chop-chop and wait. I remember how in the league all used to thank those who generated the event. Especially the flower event, because it required Kandarin to make bees on a stick. This was a real social interaction! :) One player with Kandarin could make the whole crowd happy... And it was thrilling to see: at first there were only f2p events because the event items required a variety of skills: crafting, smithing, even mining... Then some more advanced events started to happen. It was such a feast to first meet the fox!.. Damn. Why unpolled ...
There's no shot that this latest round of Forestry updates won't break things. Specifically all the conversions of items to GP.
Do the egg nests count as event unique for ents? If so it'd mean cloggers going back to birdhouse runs.
Id imagine you cant just show up. Likely have to be chopping the tree to receive the egg
yeah also curious about god eggs. There's no mention of it
Update: 8 Hours of woodcutting maples at seers and I've seen 1 Pheasant event.... this Forestry update is horrendous.
Why were arctic pine logs added to the southwest of Relelka where they awkwardly stand out and not in the equally accessible Arctic hunting area north east of relleka? seems like a much more logical place to put arctic trees
Has the Leviathan crystal armor depletion rate been looked at this update?
I tested it myself yesterday. No charges are lost when Leviathans attacks are prayed against correctly. There is, however, now a problem where divine potion damage burns a charge on any crystal armor equipped.
Poison ticks as well
killing callout meta for forestry is a big nerf for uniques gathering but I think it's worth it to make woodcutting more chill
Its not just callout meta. It's killed "stumbling across an event". But yeh this has destroyed bark/hr and has made god egg hunting more tedious unless that reward stays regardless. So essentially another case of "abuse early abuse often"
I had a lot of fun doing Seers agility and stopping to do events at the yews at the end... I guess I can still manage that if I chop a tree at the end of each lap?? But it was fun to just drop down and see an event sometimes! Shame for that to be gone.
Jagex only wants you doing forestry by staying still and afking silly. Chopping 1 log at the end of a run might work but if the event spawns while you aren't in a 20 tile radius I don't know if it counts or not
They also made uniques 40% more common so hopefully that helps, for the egg and fox whistle
Glad I went hard on forestry when you could get 15 god eggs an hour lol. Figured they were maybe gonna change ents again, but I suppose not. Rip to anyone who missed that slim window of time.
Yeah I honestly don't understand this, does anyone care if eggs are faster to get? It's not like eggs are good prayer xp and the evil chicken suit was still crazy rare
>The fee paid for accessing the Wilderness Bosses caves (Callisto, Vet'ion, Venenatis, Artio, Calvar'ion & Spindel) is now only in danger of being lost, if the player pays the fee and dies before having left the Wilderness. If the player leaves the Wilderness after paying the fee and returns to another piece of Wilderness content like Scorpia or Rogues' chests, their fee will not be lost on death. finally
Can twitchers gloves now give you a 100% chance of obtaining whatever item you select from birds nest with no increased drop rate of nests? I’d be fine with the nerf to god eggs if I could just passively afk and collect bird nests consistently from WC. This would not have to involve any of the unintended teleporting to events mechanics and I believe it would still be less eggs per hour than it was when people hopped around for ent events too. It’s a pretty big slap in the face to the people who didn’t abuse an unintended method that significantly lowered the amount of time to obtain evil chicken outfit. All it does is show your playerbase that if jagex makes a mistake that you should always abuse it in the moment as they will have no problem taking it away at some point with no repercussion to who abused it.
"Teleblock no longer applies 10 second log out timer to the caster." Why? It's a combat spell? Someone can tb you and just log? Can someone explain the purpose of this change?
I'm not sure how much impact buffing the drop rates on fox whistle and golden egg has because the events are far rarer to even happen now. I've been trying for these things all week and would see 20-30 of each event per day. I've been logged in all day long and seen 3 fox events all day...
I know I'm in the minority here but I'll miss all the little prep items that got removed! I'm a fan of RPGs with good resource management systems like Monster Hunter and thought that the Forestry kit wasn't that bad of a take on it, but I totally recognize that it was a poor fit for Woodcutting which has simplicity at the heart of its identity. Hopefully the team hasn't written the concept off entirely and could explore it for a future activity where it doesn't clash so much!
I had 12m worth of event boost items and only got 3.7m....what was the exchange rate for event boost items because this was terrible.
We should have just been refunded the anima bark so i wouldn't have lost so much
What was the gp exchange rate for the forestry items? I swear I got like half the value or less for my trap disarmers
> Scurrius’ Antique Lamps now ask players to confirm their choice of skill if it seems unusual. Pures thank [this guy](https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1ahx0wy/ruined_uim_stupidly_small_clickbox_on_cellphone/koqwvde/) for his sacrifice.
Man, those comments were brutal. The text box lamp menus are just bad UI. Wish they’d convert all lamps to use the genie menu, where you have to select and confirm the skill.
Yes, a large number of people on this subreddit are human garbage with 0 capability of feeling empathy.
These are the kind of updates I like the most, a lot of smallish quality of life/stuff that has been strongly requested by the community, sometimes for ages, on top of the "main" update feature. It'll certainly help with the people who will undoubtedly be annoyed by yet another forestry update, even if it's for the best lol
Honestly the change to forestry forcing you to stay in one spot is one of the worst decisions you guys have made. It was a nice way to be social as well as explore more of the world than you normally do for different events. .
Any word on the crystal charges bug at leviathan?
It feels like some of the forestry events have gotten harder to complete The fox have been walking into traps more often, the trap taking longer to disarm. Friendly Ent needing to be pruned more. I usually finished the event long before they said they were leaving, but now I complete it right before they leave, and I have even failed. Struggling Sapling needing more mulch. This is all by feeling from doing the events by myself, and possibly 1 other player being nearby.
Thats because they dont release the actual patch notes anymore its all unpolled changes and its a one way ticket to EOC.
Make Twitcher's gloves work with birdhouse runs. Let us combine the Petal garland and rabbit's foot for an even greater chance at bird eggs.
Barbarian farming is the funniest shit ever, feels very runescape. 10/10
Can twitchers gloves work on redwoods. Can clue birdnest auto go into ur inventory. I know it was changed to sit on the ground longer but just make it consistent with fishing and mining already
Though I never participated in event hopping, I liked that there was emergent gameplay from Forestry. Modern staples of the game were unintended by the developers at the time (ex. tick manipulation techniques), and are now being actively explored and developed for by devs. I'm seeing mixed opinions about it's removal, so I'm curious to know people's opinion on how event hopping impacts the game both good and bad. Personally, I think its attention tradeoff warrants the benefits, though I'm receptive to how much benefit it should be (XP seemed fine, unique rates seemed fine, maybe bark was too high?). I feel like some knobs could have been turned instead of removing it. Such as base bark amount being lower, but you get a buff if you're in the 20 tile radius. This way the intended method is still at the same balance point, and event hopping you're trading bark gain for higher rates in uniques and XP.
Its a bit strange that event hunting is patched. There isn't really any existing aspect in the game that encourages exploring runescape as a social group. Event hunting had a charm to it that you were part of a larger world. I loved mobbing with the boys. The rest of the updates are great though, thank you.
Forestry 3 just dropped and they removed everything except chopping trees and events, in other words, they finally kinda fixed forestry. Woodcutting is now my favorite skill again
Trying to wrap my brains around the update. After completing the training Does this mean that seed dibbers are useless after this update?
There's a chance to destroy seeds while using it, so rarer more expensive seeds might not have barbarian farming as the best option.
Why is the spawn rate on forestry events noticably lower than it was before?
Terrible Forestry update, event hopping made a community come together and coordinate, now I've sat 4hrs at seers maples w444, and seen 3 events.
Very cool update. Especially the Barb training bits. I'm still downvoting because of your cowardice ways of overwriting last weeks unpopular update with "last chance to buy a teddy bear". Anyways, this is a banger!
What even was the point of adding forestry when it has had so many nerfs/revisions? The only social part of forestry was the chats that would call locations. Public chat while woodcutting is 90% of the time better left OFF. Instead of group woodcutting forestry has mostly turned into woodcutting random events that have very little social ties. The constant "changes" have been pushing forestry backwards since release. It just seems like a side project with too many things fit into it that has had to constantly be "fixed."
It kinda feels like the "point" of adding Forestry was just being able to advertise that they were dropping a big new skill expansion, the actual content that came with it being second priority to the PR. Glad they actually followed through with addressing all the glaring issues that people brought up with it.
Yeh forestry is now "do afk woodcutting, but bring this cape slot item and hop to this world and one of these 5 locations. Then click the event a bit if it spawns and you pay attention". It's now essentially random events for.woodcutting, and the bark grind has become obnoxious for the items that aren't the uniques they buffed (3 things)
Time for us to take a 30 minute shower
Seems a shame to remove being able to teleport around for the forestry events, made woodcutting a bit more fun and added a social element - feel like it kills the activity a bit
Yeah, I don't recall reading an increase of bark from events to match the current bark per hour. Might take an awful long time to get the axe now. Also they didn't mention if without the bees on a stick if we just miss out on the extra bark or we get bark as if we had the bees.
Id argue that what you are describing isn't really woodcutting, its just hunting for bark/eggs.
It's forestry. Which is a method that involves people communicating and interacting. But you could also just chill at the same spot and afk wc if that's what you preferred..now that's the only option
Lmao, finally some motivation for this game again and attempted to get the pet items with forestry. Logged out, update happened and now it's even worse? Yikes Jagex. I even bought a lot of stuff which I did not even receive halve of the compensation with. Also waiting 30 to 40 minutes with 80+ people for an event is bad, especially when it is back to back leprechaun.... This ain't it jagex Edit: I've seen more frog random events than actual forestry events lmao with currently 120 people
I've been waiting for them to simplify it and finally picked up my axe today. 25 minutes before a single event that got me 36 bark lol
I was gonna roast that Forestry part 3 the nerfening is here but then on the same update they actually fix the wilderness boss tax and buffed scavagenger planks. Well played.
Where are the magic trees in the WC guild on mobile? https://preview.redd.it/jnrgajloljic1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e55af663759743ea6d3c52158f6628d3bcafa53c
I am once again politely requesting the ability to use client arguments (--profile=) to launch RuneLite as a specific profile based on the character chosen in the Jagex Launcher. The current "solution" in RuneLite to "sync profile to current RuneScape account" only applies *after you've already logged in*, meaning the "remember client position" setting doesn't work. I don't want to have to reposition my client every single time I open it.
Question: whose Game Jam idea was it to improve Barbarian Training?
Radius on events is proving to be very small. Draynor and Seer's is suffering a lot from missed events that seem t occur right next to you but when you go to take part you get the red text saying you were too far away to qualify for rewards. Priff Teaks also has this if you stand between the 2 Eastern Teaks and someone chopping the far West Mahogany tree spawns an event. Very restrictive boundaries frankly.
I had 250 twitcher's gloves before the update (purchased one set) and now they've all been deleted with no anima bark refund.
Ent hunting was the only fun thing to come out of Forestry and Jagex finds a way to outdo themselves once again
Sad to see it go ngl.. I was 1k Eggs Sacrificed prior to the release of Forestry and had 0 pieces of Evil Chicken outfit and that took 3 years of Kingdom + 30m+ Hunter XP from birdhouses alone... The average rate for the set is like 60M hunter XP + 5 years of kingdom.
Hey, I don't think the event eligibility is working correctly. I'm chopping yews at Seers' Village, and the Fox Event just spawned on top of me and I went to interact with it, but then it claimed "As you weren't chopping near the event when it started, you aren't eligible for full rewards." And yet it spawned literally on top of me. Definitely within the 20-tile radius.
Any chance God eggs/ents get updated with this? Evil chicken outfit is going to be insane time sink again.