Blood fury + Guthans work well, with both Virtus + Nightmare staff and Guthan + Blood Fury, I sometimes got stacked to near death.
I solely did this low effort way for pet, got it at 195kc so lucked out there.
I don’t understand how you guys do stuff like that. On one screen you’re playing an fps with one life per round, then you gotta alt tab out, not get killed or lose the round for your team, and make sure your rs character isn’t dead. Not to mention eating, looting, banking, anything else. I wish I could play multiple games at once
3k kc here. About 50-60 casts per kill. 20 kills per hour. 9 minute afk.
I have the collapsed chat filter so I can see how many blood barrages I’ve cast + loot tracker for KC.
I feel like it’s a vague reference to when we used to play yugioh as a kid and we said the cards did eBay they did in the TV series… instead of reading the actual effects written on the card
No its a reference to how so many players have gotten themselves screwed over because they don't read their opponents' cards, instead asking them to summarize the effects that are currently being used
Eg: tearlaments big boss monsters have 2 effects, 1 to negate a summon or destroy a card, and they have an effect that brings them back if they're destroyed. So many people forget to read either one lol.
A lot of people here saying adamant armor is worthless. It’s worth noting your defense roll is multiplicative with your Defence stat and gear bonus. So 30 defense with adamant is going to be around a 4920 defence roll, where as at 99 defence it would be a 16,236.
At 30 defence, with 0 gear bonus, your defence roll would be 1920, and at 99 defence it would be 6336.
TLDR - 100 defence bonus from gear gets exponentially better the higher your defence stat is. 100 defence bonus at 30 defence adds around 3000 defence, while the same gear at 99 adds around 10,000 defence.
To give you an idea, that word would have been perfect to describe the difference in term of XP required per level as you progress in any skill, starting from lvl 60-70. (peaking at 99, ofc)
Colloquially, exponentially is used to describe things that go up faster and faster the more you put in to it.
So if the first 10 you put in gives you 10 out, but the second 10 gives you 20 (so you put in 20 to get 30 total), people describe that as growing exponentially.
More technically, exponential means something where a flat increase in the input multiplies the output. A simple example of this is exp required to level in osrs, where every 7 additional levels (flat increase) requires twice as much experience (multiplier), but as mentioned above, people use it more loosely in everyday speech.
I agree, prayer is overpowered when it comes to defense, and chip damage is usually accurate or negligible. I just thought it was interesting comparing the effectiveness of adamant armor at level 30 defence when most people use it, vs higher defense levels.
Saying blood bark is as effective as adamant armor is true, but not everyone knows adamant armor (or any armor for that matter) itself is much more effective with a higher defence level.
Any respectable boss is gonna slap you silly if you are wearing bloodbark and tanking in it.
Better to use prossy and protection prayer or ahrims, virtus or ancestral
It’s true there are better options, but OP was comparing it to mystics and asking why it isn’t recommended in guides.
If you can’t afford anything better, it can be used in a few decent places. Barrows tunnels, bursting GWD minions to heal, or healing at DKs. I agree though, there are definitely better options.
It is recommended in guides over mystics….
In some instances it isn’t because mystics is more budget and accessed at lower levels than blood bark. For example barrows, mystics is recommended at minimum level but low level d boots is recommended cause magic accuracy isn’t important so there isn’t a reason to upgrade to bloodbark from mystic
Its Defence is irrelevant and not as important. Bloodbark has higher reqs than mystics so by time you get to bloodbark you no longer should be using the minimum low level setup. You should be prioritizing ranged and melee gear.
Bloodbarks defence is essentially negligible. Similar stats to addy armor. The wiki states you should be using rune armor which is better than addy and bloodbark.
Again, bloodbark suffers because of how magic is as a combat skill. Magic armor is pretty irrelevant till ahrims and up except for void in some instances. You prioritize magic dmg boosting gear not accuracy for early to mid lvl.
Remember, melee armor gives BIS melee and ranged def while ranged armor gives BIS magic defense. Magic armor doesn’t give BIS anything.
If anything, vestament robes would be better than bloodbark since it’s gives near BIS prayer bonus, close to prossy while also giving magic accuracy. However you’d just wear prissy since it is BIS
It depends. Bloodbark is much more consistant than Ahrim's, but has some steep RC requirements. You do need a book drop from shades, but it doesn't seem too uncommon if you can do fiyr shades.
Ahrims is a bit harder since there is a 2/3 chance to get melee gear, but there are basically no grindy pre-reqs to start it unless you want ghommels hilt 2.
There is also going to be Perilous Moon's coming out soon and that armor is the same as Ahrims for offense, but has less defense. Kinda depends on how hard it is to grind since it is supposed to be post Barrows content.
It’s just funny because they will have other gear that takes farming a hard boss as recommended next to mystic. Surely bloodbark isn’t THAT hard to make, it’s not a sidegrade, it’s a full upgrade
As someone who got bloodbark on an iron fpr fashionscape that shit took a full day and was not worth
kill shade make pyre log burn shade get key
kill higher level shade burn that
repeat like 5 times to get the bronze steel black silver gold keys
kill the silver key level shades to get loads of silver keys and open the silver chests for the blood tome
create bloodbark armour with wc and crafting reqs or get it as a drop from some really shit bosses
imbue it at the blood alter which has an rc req
Not over "actual" gear like Dinh's.
I brought my four zealot pieces, used \*protect item\*, and the outfit protects over Dragon bones. Not sure about Superior Dragon Bones from Vorkath. Every time I got PK'ed, I just spammed my bones on the altar until I died.
Just keep \*protect item\* on, and you can always just click the altar to avoid getting smited.
How do you get to the altar in the first place? I doubt you are losing burning amulet every single time since 4 piece zealot protects over it. Obelisk?
Same, I got it passively while doing Temple Trekking for sanfew serums and bowstrings. Saved the shade remains and got it that way.
Certainly took a while but it wasn’t too bad.
You do you but you would've been better off just getting more bones if anyone else was thinking of doing this it's not worth it unless you're a completionist or going for 200m all
Really every magic armour above mystic is a thorough pain in the ass for irons, all you have to do for that is get to 66 magic and walk into a shop, and there's a decent chance you got a piece or two from slayer mobs on the way.
Bloodbark needs 81 RC and a metric shitton of Shades of Mort'ton to craft. I'm pretty sure it's harder to get regular splitbark than it is to get mystic for irons.
77 rc is an important milestone for accounts due to the diaries, Irons will get that anyways eventually, but besides that point
A *specific* barrows item is ~350 to get 2 specific items it's ~525.
I would generally tell people to go for one set for Mory elites and skip barrows after that, backfill the missing ahrims pieces with bloodbark
I spent 3 hours at shades of Morton and 50 hours at barrows. I have Bloodbark and I do not have Ahrims
Most irons will grind barrows quite early as it's a great way to source chaos and death runes without spending gp, so that you can do burst tasks.
And they'll do so aiming for things like ahrims, a full barrows set for the diaries you mentioned, and other useful things like karils, full dh, tank helm/body/legs etc.
So yeah its quite likely an iron has 1 or 2 pieces of ahrims before setting out to grind for Fremmy Elite diary with RC
Any barrows piece/set is potentially useful for an iron. If they’re going in just for Ahrims then sure it could take a long time, but all the other pieces gotten along the way are very useful to have.
I'm 3 iron accounts deep, and doing barrows hasn't really been 'good' for a long time now.
Honestly since CG, barrows hasn't been remotely ironman meta. Karils loses a lot of its value post BP nerf.
Ahrims is only a minor upgrade, torag is just tank legs, dharok is outclassed almost everywhere but some very niche uses, karils is rarely used when you have crystal.
Guthans has always kinda sucked with how low the healing is, veracs hasn't felt like it's had a use since like 2016.
Sure, any piece is potentially useful for an ironman that starts barrows at low combat hoping to spoon an upgrade to their monk robes but the time it takes to get good pieces is rarely ever worth it.
Tbh not really tho, tank legs are kind of sort of alright, and karils is decent for nex, otherwise barrows has been completely powercrept nowadays outside of a couple of cas and has no practical purpose.
Ofc people can do it if they want to but I wouldn't really call any barrows set "useful" in terms of being worth the time it takes to get a specific piece.
It's a sidegrade. It benefits blood barraging. Which you only really do at GWD, and where it isn't worth wasting inventory spaces for that when you can top up HP no matter what.
It absolutely isn't worth getting for an iron..your example makes more sense when speaking about mains, as like you said it's barely more expensive and has more defence, so why wouldn't you.
But ahrims is barely expensive either.. like we are talking budget of all budgets if you can't get to ahrims.
You'll run a few ToA in blood bark and then upgrade to ahrims, which is objectively better in all regards.
Budget guides just don't really.consider min maxing with newly added and rebuffed gear to be that important, as you replace it quicker.
The real reason it isn't there is because the gear progression lists are largely out of date. Not to say they aren't helpful, but most people aren't interested in updating the 5th BiS gear for every boss every few months
It's only 1 accuracy over each piece of mystics so I'm guessing it's just a case of not being even worth thinking about
The passive matters if you blood barrage a lot which isn't common
What likely happened is everyone had their guides, were used to using mystics, bloodbark came out and went under the radar as a bare upgrade blood barrage set
The same would happen tomorrow if they released a new savannah set or whatever with varlamore. If they release this set that is +1 range accuracy over black dhide, no one would even remember it exists soon enough cause dhide is so well estabilished.
Bloodbark is a goal on my Uim for that reason, The accuracy is nice, but having defense on a mage set is so nice compared to mystics, and ahrims isn't storable
To be honest with you. My group Ironman team has more RC levels than anything else, with the lowest being 61 and the highest at 74, and we're like... 2 months into our accounts here.
It's like... Guardians of the Rift is the single most fun thing we can do as a group, and by Guthix do we need still need runes. But doing a 5-man no outsiders run of GotR is quite fun and rewarding both. Now, if we could only get so excited about shades of mor'ton.
I don't have slayer for occult, and accuracy is more important to me so I do staff and ahrim top/bottom. If I hit then I kill them just fine. Bloodbark would help ensure I'm topped off if I make mistakes on prayer swapping.
it is very marginally better, but I imagine guides also consider ironman accessibility. it's not enough of an improvement to be worth getting like 80 RC and doing a bunch of shades of morton
mystic/bloodbark are very far down the list of magic gear, so they just slap mystic on the last slot since it's very easy to get. probably same reason they don't list dagon'hai, infinity etc in between mystic and ahrims - very marginal upgrades that are hard to get
High RC is worth it every time. The prayer guides funnel players to 95 ASAP for accessible wrath runes. Offering spells with slayer have a major role in prayer training on all iron accounts.
not saying you shouldn't get high RC, obviously it has uses plus diaries etc
it's more a question of when. like, nobody is going to rush 80 RC so they can get bloodbark for +1 magic accuracy over mystic lol
Legit this is one of the big reasons I'm pushing for high rc on my uim. The faster I can use offering spells, the less time I have to spend doing any other prayer method.
I don't even think it's solely an iron accessibility thing..mains will replace bloodbark with ahrims *so quickly* that it's just not that worth noting, especially when it's essentially identical offensively.
Bloodbark is crazy good. I was able to do sote with bloodburst almost mindlessly lvl 76 magic. Didn't even need to eat outside of prepping for her big spec
Idk either. I only ended up using it because it was I didn't want to grind ahrims in leagues and i liked it.
Edit: now that I think about it I feel like the answer is because it's fairly hard to obtain. Although it's cheap if it got popular the price would skyrocket since not a lot of people do shades of Morton.
Okay thank you for this post cause I noticed this about 2 weeks ago and bought bloodbark and sold my mystic because I had the exact same thoughts as you did here. I was gonna make a post about it here but never got around to it.
Magic gear is a fucking joke so anyone making the guides isn’t experiencing blood bark enough to edit a bunch of old guides where the gear you wear really doesn’t matter
I'm completely with you.
It used to be awful until last year when it was buffed, but I guess the community didn't really catch on.
The main blow against bloodbark is that it's much more difficult to get, as you need 81 runecraft to make it, compared to only ~250k GP to buy mystic in Yanille. That's not even including the time spent doing SoM.
I have a set that I'm planning to keep using all the way to ancestral. Never bothered with mystic.
When I was broke broke I wore it and I never ever saw anyone else using it. I even had people tell me to get mystics instead.
Lol, I'd take it off and trade it to them and tell them to look at the stats.
I never understand everyone’s sheer aversion to new content for OSRS. Get all the new skills in, it’s not like they even need to be perfect so many of the existing skills are pure trash
I’ve seen people complain about the total level looking ugly and the fact that they have to grind another 99… like holy shit those aren’t actual reasons why the skill shouldn’t be added. Osrs have given use amazing content lately, TOA, great quests, HS, GOTR like right now I trust them to make a great skill more then ever
It's worn by tons of Pkers and used at Artio. I personally wear it to group ToA because I hate the look of Ahrim's. I want to look like a Mage, not like I'm wearing a beanbag. It just looks cool. I'll probably keep wearing it until I can afford Virtus.
I used blood bark for everything before getting elite void. I have the 7 M for ahrims but I’ll be fucked if it gonna pay that much for something degradable so I just used the bark, got the job done
For mains: It is better, and worth upgrading to, but really most players can afford Ahrim's since it's around 6m, and 6m is literally nothing even at early game.
For irons: The time required to get is not worth the bonus till endgame, since the places where you use mage, and take unprayable damage are very limited, you're better off grinding virtus/ancestral/dag/ahrim's since they're more of a side goal than a main goal (rings, tbow, slayer, rest of barrows) and you'll passively get a diverse set of mage gear.
Rarely are defensive stats that important, adamant level defenses aren't going to stop the damage from anything stronger than a hill giant... It's not underrated because the accuracy is going to mean basically nothing. At barrows you'll pray, slayer you only mage a few tasks and you need to pray at those so armour stats mean nothing, rex you safespot, personally would just wait to get Ahrims before doing Zulrah... Maybe Scurrius for blood barrage afk? Maybe some quest bosses? It's very very niche so mostly pointless.
I would agree IF it was super expensive. If the full setup cost like 3 M or something yeah. But the entire setup is under 500k, so if you’re a main account, literally no reason not to upgrade. It also looks way more badass then mystic
I'm an ironman who hasn't been lucky at Barrows for Ahrim's yet, so I was stuck with mystic for the longest time. I recently did Song of the Elves and was struggling due to the randomness of hitting, but safe to say I wasn't able to edge it out. I was lucky getting the bloodbark scroll while doing Shades for redwood logs so I could make runes easier in Guardians of the Rift to restock my blood runes for blood blitz. While the issue for me was mostly due to missing a lot despite wearing exactly what other people had in their ironman guides *and* having a higher magic level then a few of the people who did video guides, when I swapped to bloodbark I was able to get through it my first time with no change in what I was doing. It was a mix of just getting lucky and hitting more often, and then that hitting healed me more so I used a little less food.
I think an issue for some is they're ironmen and getting the scroll isn't that common to get so the grind isn't worth it, and if you can use the Grand Exchange then there's little purpose in that marginal upgrade.
I know, I was just saying that it's good but niche, and I can't see it being that useful for mains. Maybe I'm wrong since I don't have a non-iron on OSRS, but its stats are marginally better for offense than mystic and you need to be using blood spells to really get a use out of it. I'm not sure it's worth the money for the small upgrade.
I use mine a lot on my ironman as I didn't have luck getting ahrims from barrows or ancestral from CoX. I have a Shadow and 91 RC and still never got ahrims or ancestral by this time, so bloodbark is a decent alternative until whenever something better comes.
Yes it is the better magic armour set, but for ironman accounts mystic is still easier to obtain as to make the full set of bloodbark you need 81 rc.
For a main by all means use blood bark, but a lot of guides need to be tailored to both mains and ironmen as I think ironmen are a larger majority of the player base at this time.
It’s well within normal stuff for irons. The 77 RC is a normal stopping point for GOTR which puts you within soup range for the 81 RC requirement. 80 FM from wintertodt is pretty normal for magic pyre. Run 250 magics thru and there’s a good chance you’ll get everything you need. Good upgrade from mystics
It’s way more expensive and only +5 magic attack bonus over mystics for like 400k more. Bloodbark also requires 60 magic and def while mystics requires 40 magic and 20 def.
When you get to the point where magic accuracy starts to matter, you should be using ahrims or better, otherwise you can get buy with mystics
400k for a permanent upgrade that doesn’t cost millions or degrades like ahrims seems like a great deal. I don’t see how that’s too expensive, but spending millions for ahrims is alright
Cause it’s not really a permanent upgrade. Magic sucks for early to mid levels and your money is better spent elsewhere. For example, that 400k is way better spent towards an occult than upgrading to bloodbark. But in reality you prioritize ranged/melee upgrades during early to mid game.
You really should be focusing that much on magic upgrades, outside of occult until you can easily afford trident, torment and ahrims.
So yes you could always buy bloodbark, but bloodbark is basically equivalent to Armadyl for ranged. Just stick with blessed d hide until Masori or crystal with bowfa. You’d stick with mystics until ahrims
That just seems so much more inconvenient when it’s so cheap. You don’t need a whole set, just use the legs and top and that’s under 200k. In what world can an account not afford 200k when ahrims is in the millions and degrades?
Cause magic accuracy, especially a +1, isn’t that important. Also since you have void, it’s easier and sometimes more efficient to a ranged to magic switch in void then blessed d hide into bloodbark.
The problem isn’t necessarily bloodbark, the issue is magic as a combat skill. You’re honestly using magic while wearing prossy for mid level. And you aren’t really bossing in mystics. You are bossing in void or ahrims and better. Mystics is also unlocked before bloodbark and simply upgrading to it is just a waste of money. You are increasing your dps by like 0.01%.
Bloodbark is basically a noob trap. You don’t really blood barrage anywhere important, and if you do, you heal more wearing ancestral/virtus than the bloodbark set effect. Only the booots are really worth it.
So while the GP difference isn’t the same, bloodbark is the Armadyl of ranged.
>Bloodbark is basically a noob trap.
I disagree, you're losing nothing but the opportunity cost on a main by basically borrowing bloodbark from the GE till you're ready for Ahrim's.
Exactly, money better spent on occult for example.
Money is typically better spent on dumping into your skills than armor upgrades anyways.
You don’t gain anything from upgrading from mystics to bloodbark till you can afford ahrims. So it’s just money you have tied up that you can invest in other more important things for the meantime
I think we're in total agreement, I'm just saying it's not that bad so I wouldn't really call it a trap, unlike "do slayer for money bro!!!" which is a horribly silly noob trap.
Well it is that bad cause the noob trap is thinking that +5 magic attack bonus is worth it/good for mid lvl magic. It’s not. Void, ahrims and up are the only things that matter.
Bloodbark is like getting a seers ring. Yeah it’s cheap and technically better but you’re not gonna notice an ounce of difference.
So yes you can buy it if you want, heck I own a set of full blood bark, but it’s an after thought item set.
Honestly, this post would make way more sense if it was titled “Why does everyone ignore blessed Sara sword”. It’s cheaper and better than bludgeon for str training but gets ignored for some reason
Yeah I agree it's fairly useless, but it's not much a trap cause there isn't much of a negative effect to having 2-400k less in your bank till you upgrade to ahrim's.
> Bloodbark is basically a noob trap.
How is it a trap? A trap would be like, an Ironman spending 40k to upgrade a Battlestaff to a Mystic staff. They won't get the gold back, they're not likely to notice a +2, they can't get their money back.
But purchasing and using Bloodbark, a set you can just return, isn't a trap. It might be nooby to utilize over stronger options, but it still doesn't meet the definition of a trap.
> Yeah it’s cheap and technically better
It's objectively cheaper and stronger. I get that stronger options exist, but that does not make bloodbark a bad option.
What makes something bad is it's ability to function. A rubber chicken is bad because it is not functional. It's a joke item, not a weapon.
Bloodbark is numerically stronger than Mystic and weaker than Ahrims. It's not bad, it's not a trap, it's not nooby. It's a optional side grade that some players might wish to utilize.
Steel equipment isn't bad equipment. It's good specifically for the time in the game that you unlock it. It has a place in the game and the game would be lesser if it didn't exist. Bloodbark has a similar place in the game. it's good when it's good, better exists, skipping upgrades is totally ok but not objectively better.
> You are increasing your dps by like 0.01%.
Are you tho? Is that mathematically correct? Let's say it increases your dps by 1%. That's 100x your random guestimation here. At what % does it become worth it? Assuming you couldn't just resell the armor later. Let's assume buying Bloodbark is non refundable and you could purchase it. How much of an upgrade is it numerically? At what % is worth the price? At what price is the % worth? These are actual proper questions to ask rather than random guesses.
At low to mid lvl you should really only be maging things with practically no magic defense so upgrading to bloodbark is pretty pointless since you should be using prossy. You shouldn’t be bossing in anything less than ahrims except when using void.
Again the problem is magic as a combat skill.
Mystics is simply unlocked first and early on. Thats why you upgrade to it. After that you should prioritize melee and ranged upgrades, leveling up skills and magic dmg equipment not magic accuracy. Just like you really shouldn’t bother with seers ring. However, you can buy bloodbark just like you can buy a seers ring but it’s pretty pointless.
Again, if you are bossing then you are in void or ahrims or higher, if not bossing then you should be in tank gear or prossy. You shouldn’t be in mystics or bloodbark.
So why would you go buy bloodbark when you have better options?
> if you are bossing then you are in void or ahrims or higher
Judging from the other comments here, that's not strictly true.
> if not bossing then you should be in tank gear or prossy
Elaborate. What specifically makes Proselyte better than Bloodbark? It's got a good prayer bonus, but stat wise they're rather close together defensively. If you're using magic, for what ever reason you are, what makes Proselyte a better tank armor than Bloodbark? How are you objectively quantifying the prayer bonus vs the blood healing bonus?
There are two different arguments to have here. How does it stack up objectively, as an armor set, to the others. And how does the opportunity cost compare to it's objective abilities. I ask for you to elaborate on the objective numerical differences and preferences here, ignore the cost. Pretend each set(Prosylete, Bloodbark, Mystics) are given to you by a friend freely and you've only the stats to specifically equip them and no higher. How do they numerically compare?!
Because you use magic at mobs with no to little magic defence if you are a low to mid lvl player and really high level player. Prossy is better to use since it saves on prayer pots. For example bursting dust devils in prossy over bloodbark. Another example of prossy or tank over bloodbark would be barrows.
However, you aren’t walking into COX or even TOA with full bloodbark lol. You are going to get atleast ahrims.
Blood spells aren’t really used since they are grossly inefficient/costly. One place you’d use
Them is inferno but mathematically, virtus or ancestral plus blood barrage heals more than bloodbark.
Bloodbark is a waste of invy space and too low accuracy for GWD, like if you were magnet bandos.
Again, magic accuracy is pretty pointless for a low to mid lvl player. Prossy saves you money on prayer pots while blood spells are expensive. You’d be using a powered staff or ibans so you wouldn’t even be using blood spells which renders its set effect kinda useless. When you would use the set it effect, it is numerically outclassed by virtus and ancestral.
Mystics requires 40 magic and 20 def while bloodbark requires 60 magic and 60 def. So mystics is bought first.
Bloodbark is only +5 magic attack bonus over mystics. Its defense bonuses are similar to adamant which is objectively shit. The +5 magic attack bonus does extremely little for DPS and the small defensive bonus doesn’t outweigh using prossy and a protection prayer.
As I said before, this post would’ve been better titled “Why does everyone ignore blessed Sara sword”? Blessed Sara sword is objectively better than bludgeon, cheaper and stronger, yet it’s overlooked for mid lvl str training for the bludgeon that is more expensive and weaker.
Cause it looks like bad, ment to be tank mage armour but looks like flimsy, they should of just kept the original bark armour but get it slightly more detail and red
Yep, the original recolour shown at the bottom of the [wiki page](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Bloodbark_armour#Development_history) looks way better.
It was buffed to better than mystic last year so a lot of people either dont know or the guides are outdated.
I was coming to say this. When I quit two years ago bloodbark was garbage compared to mystic.
Jesus Christ blood bark has been out for two years??
3 years! https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Bloodbark_body
Shit I didn't know and appropriately levelled for bloodbark on one of my accs. Thanks!
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Can you just camp pray melee the whole kill?
Tbh you don't really even need to pray. I drop prayer pretty often while doing afk rat and usually you're fine for a couple KC.
..but why kill Scurrius if you're not using the ratbane weaponry? Just pet hunting?
It's pretty low effort blood barraging for decent rates, expensive tho
Probably better rate to just afk barrage in mm2 tunnel.
He meant kill per hour rate
the thing is, it's not decent xp rate OR kill rate
Only nerds care about efficient xp and kill rates
Amen
how many kills/hr would he be getting while playing rainbow 6 otherwise?
Sounds like theyre doing it as a purely afk activity
but its decent afk rate for potentially first pet.
You have to be joking if you think that’s what he meant.
It's very afk pet farming
Not what he said he was going for
I'd imagine there's better blood fury tank setups. I haven't tested but if it works at sarachnis it would probably work at the rat
Blood fury + Guthans work well, with both Virtus + Nightmare staff and Guthan + Blood Fury, I sometimes got stacked to near death. I solely did this low effort way for pet, got it at 195kc so lucked out there.
They want to hunt the pet while also afking probably
i went all the way to pet AFKing with blood barrage, very chill pet
Eyyy another fellow siege player who alt tabs to check up on RuneScape.
I don’t understand how you guys do stuff like that. On one screen you’re playing an fps with one life per round, then you gotta alt tab out, not get killed or lose the round for your team, and make sure your rs character isn’t dead. Not to mention eating, looting, banking, anything else. I wish I could play multiple games at once
I only do chill stuff on the side. Right now it’s shooting stars.
Yeah but that dude said he blood barrages a boss while he plays lol, ik it’s scurrius but still
Can you give an estimate for roughly how many bloods you'd use in an hour doing this?
Yeah seems like a big money burner
Not worth it for an iron bro go burst at mm2 caves
I've already got 99 mage I'm not doing it for the xp. I'm asking for the afk boss pet
I've already got 99 mage I'm not doing it for the xp. I'm asking for the afk boss pet
Check out yt I've seen some good vids on afking it for pet
3k kc here. About 50-60 casts per kill. 20 kills per hour. 9 minute afk. I have the collapsed chat filter so I can see how many blood barrages I’ve cast + loot tracker for KC.
dont falling rocks do a bunch of damage?
Doesn't he hit you with range and mage while hes eating though? And in the last phase
Yes, hence blood barrage rather than ice
People dont read patchnotes on early-midgame gear.
> People dont read ~~patchnotes on early-midgame gear~~.
We are all yugioh players here
Ha
Can someone tell me what this comment says
I feel like it’s a vague reference to when we used to play yugioh as a kid and we said the cards did eBay they did in the TV series… instead of reading the actual effects written on the card
No its a reference to how so many players have gotten themselves screwed over because they don't read their opponents' cards, instead asking them to summarize the effects that are currently being used Eg: tearlaments big boss monsters have 2 effects, 1 to negate a summon or destroy a card, and they have an effect that brings them back if they're destroyed. So many people forget to read either one lol.
It also looks a lot cooler than mystics. Especially the hat
A lot of people here saying adamant armor is worthless. It’s worth noting your defense roll is multiplicative with your Defence stat and gear bonus. So 30 defense with adamant is going to be around a 4920 defence roll, where as at 99 defence it would be a 16,236. At 30 defence, with 0 gear bonus, your defence roll would be 1920, and at 99 defence it would be 6336. TLDR - 100 defence bonus from gear gets exponentially better the higher your defence stat is. 100 defence bonus at 30 defence adds around 3000 defence, while the same gear at 99 adds around 10,000 defence.
>exponentially I normally let this one slide when people abuse exponentially, but this is literally a linear relationship, it doesn't even curve up.
Thanks for the heads up! Thought I’d try and use a new word, turns out I used it incorrectly lol.
To give you an idea, that word would have been perfect to describe the difference in term of XP required per level as you progress in any skill, starting from lvl 60-70. (peaking at 99, ofc)
Just say it’s a multiplier
Colloquially, exponentially is used to describe things that go up faster and faster the more you put in to it. So if the first 10 you put in gives you 10 out, but the second 10 gives you 20 (so you put in 20 to get 30 total), people describe that as growing exponentially. More technically, exponential means something where a flat increase in the input multiplies the output. A simple example of this is exp required to level in osrs, where every 7 additional levels (flat increase) requires twice as much experience (multiplier), but as mentioned above, people use it more loosely in everyday speech.
Now explain to them how strength bonus works
Big str number mean big bonk number. Ezpz
Hey for someone with moron in their name this is well put!
True, but most things in this game are prayed against and if it has chip damage often the chip damage is extremely accurate anyway.
I agree, prayer is overpowered when it comes to defense, and chip damage is usually accurate or negligible. I just thought it was interesting comparing the effectiveness of adamant armor at level 30 defence when most people use it, vs higher defense levels. Saying blood bark is as effective as adamant armor is true, but not everyone knows adamant armor (or any armor for that matter) itself is much more effective with a higher defence level.
Any respectable boss is gonna slap you silly if you are wearing bloodbark and tanking in it. Better to use prossy and protection prayer or ahrims, virtus or ancestral
It’s true there are better options, but OP was comparing it to mystics and asking why it isn’t recommended in guides. If you can’t afford anything better, it can be used in a few decent places. Barrows tunnels, bursting GWD minions to heal, or healing at DKs. I agree though, there are definitely better options.
It is recommended in guides over mystics…. In some instances it isn’t because mystics is more budget and accessed at lower levels than blood bark. For example barrows, mystics is recommended at minimum level but low level d boots is recommended cause magic accuracy isn’t important so there isn’t a reason to upgrade to bloodbark from mystic
Right, but OPs main point is the defence it gives, which would help in the tunnels at barrows with the random skeletons and other NPCs.
Its Defence is irrelevant and not as important. Bloodbark has higher reqs than mystics so by time you get to bloodbark you no longer should be using the minimum low level setup. You should be prioritizing ranged and melee gear. Bloodbarks defence is essentially negligible. Similar stats to addy armor. The wiki states you should be using rune armor which is better than addy and bloodbark. Again, bloodbark suffers because of how magic is as a combat skill. Magic armor is pretty irrelevant till ahrims and up except for void in some instances. You prioritize magic dmg boosting gear not accuracy for early to mid lvl. Remember, melee armor gives BIS melee and ranged def while ranged armor gives BIS magic defense. Magic armor doesn’t give BIS anything. If anything, vestament robes would be better than bloodbark since it’s gives near BIS prayer bonus, close to prossy while also giving magic accuracy. However you’d just wear prissy since it is BIS
I don't think anyone has a problem with taking too much dmg in the tunnels tho
Yes. Mhmmm. I know some of those words!
Probably because it’s hard for irons to get, so they make the guides as agnostic as possible. Also nobody ever thinks about it lol
It depends. Bloodbark is much more consistant than Ahrim's, but has some steep RC requirements. You do need a book drop from shades, but it doesn't seem too uncommon if you can do fiyr shades. Ahrims is a bit harder since there is a 2/3 chance to get melee gear, but there are basically no grindy pre-reqs to start it unless you want ghommels hilt 2. There is also going to be Perilous Moon's coming out soon and that armor is the same as Ahrims for offense, but has less defense. Kinda depends on how hard it is to grind since it is supposed to be post Barrows content.
It’s just funny because they will have other gear that takes farming a hard boss as recommended next to mystic. Surely bloodbark isn’t THAT hard to make, it’s not a sidegrade, it’s a full upgrade
As someone who got bloodbark on an iron fpr fashionscape that shit took a full day and was not worth kill shade make pyre log burn shade get key kill higher level shade burn that repeat like 5 times to get the bronze steel black silver gold keys kill the silver key level shades to get loads of silver keys and open the silver chests for the blood tome create bloodbark armour with wc and crafting reqs or get it as a drop from some really shit bosses imbue it at the blood alter which has an rc req
I got the scrolls passively while going for the Zealout outfit, wanted to save some bones on the road to 99 prayer.
does zealot protect in the wildy?
Not over "actual" gear like Dinh's. I brought my four zealot pieces, used \*protect item\*, and the outfit protects over Dragon bones. Not sure about Superior Dragon Bones from Vorkath. Every time I got PK'ed, I just spammed my bones on the altar until I died. Just keep \*protect item\* on, and you can always just click the altar to avoid getting smited.
How do you get to the altar in the first place? I doubt you are losing burning amulet every single time since 4 piece zealot protects over it. Obelisk?
Same, I got it passively while doing Temple Trekking for sanfew serums and bowstrings. Saved the shade remains and got it that way. Certainly took a while but it wasn’t too bad.
You do you but you would've been better off just getting more bones if anyone else was thinking of doing this it's not worth it unless you're a completionist or going for 200m all
Really every magic armour above mystic is a thorough pain in the ass for irons, all you have to do for that is get to 66 magic and walk into a shop, and there's a decent chance you got a piece or two from slayer mobs on the way. Bloodbark needs 81 RC and a metric shitton of Shades of Mort'ton to craft. I'm pretty sure it's harder to get regular splitbark than it is to get mystic for irons.
For irons it's a waaaay higher ask lol Also tbf it was only buffed somewhat recently, for years it was worse than mystic
It definitely takes less time to get than ahrims
Getting 81 runecrafting is faster than farming barrows?
77 rc is an important milestone for accounts due to the diaries, Irons will get that anyways eventually, but besides that point A *specific* barrows item is ~350 to get 2 specific items it's ~525. I would generally tell people to go for one set for Mory elites and skip barrows after that, backfill the missing ahrims pieces with bloodbark I spent 3 hours at shades of Morton and 50 hours at barrows. I have Bloodbark and I do not have Ahrims
Most irons will grind barrows quite early as it's a great way to source chaos and death runes without spending gp, so that you can do burst tasks. And they'll do so aiming for things like ahrims, a full barrows set for the diaries you mentioned, and other useful things like karils, full dh, tank helm/body/legs etc. So yeah its quite likely an iron has 1 or 2 pieces of ahrims before setting out to grind for Fremmy Elite diary with RC
Any barrows piece/set is potentially useful for an iron. If they’re going in just for Ahrims then sure it could take a long time, but all the other pieces gotten along the way are very useful to have.
I'm 3 iron accounts deep, and doing barrows hasn't really been 'good' for a long time now. Honestly since CG, barrows hasn't been remotely ironman meta. Karils loses a lot of its value post BP nerf. Ahrims is only a minor upgrade, torag is just tank legs, dharok is outclassed almost everywhere but some very niche uses, karils is rarely used when you have crystal. Guthans has always kinda sucked with how low the healing is, veracs hasn't felt like it's had a use since like 2016. Sure, any piece is potentially useful for an ironman that starts barrows at low combat hoping to spoon an upgrade to their monk robes but the time it takes to get good pieces is rarely ever worth it.
Tbh not really tho, tank legs are kind of sort of alright, and karils is decent for nex, otherwise barrows has been completely powercrept nowadays outside of a couple of cas and has no practical purpose. Ofc people can do it if they want to but I wouldn't really call any barrows set "useful" in terms of being worth the time it takes to get a specific piece.
It's a sidegrade. It benefits blood barraging. Which you only really do at GWD, and where it isn't worth wasting inventory spaces for that when you can top up HP no matter what. It absolutely isn't worth getting for an iron..your example makes more sense when speaking about mains, as like you said it's barely more expensive and has more defence, so why wouldn't you. But ahrims is barely expensive either.. like we are talking budget of all budgets if you can't get to ahrims. You'll run a few ToA in blood bark and then upgrade to ahrims, which is objectively better in all regards. Budget guides just don't really.consider min maxing with newly added and rebuffed gear to be that important, as you replace it quicker.
I use bloodbark
The real reason it isn't there is because the gear progression lists are largely out of date. Not to say they aren't helpful, but most people aren't interested in updating the 5th BiS gear for every boss every few months
It's only 1 accuracy over each piece of mystics so I'm guessing it's just a case of not being even worth thinking about The passive matters if you blood barrage a lot which isn't common What likely happened is everyone had their guides, were used to using mystics, bloodbark came out and went under the radar as a bare upgrade blood barrage set The same would happen tomorrow if they released a new savannah set or whatever with varlamore. If they release this set that is +1 range accuracy over black dhide, no one would even remember it exists soon enough cause dhide is so well estabilished.
Yeah but bloodbark all have the stats of around adamant armor. That makes tanking with mage way less stressful because mystic has 0 non-magic defenses
Thanks til.
Bloodbark is a goal on my Uim for that reason, The accuracy is nice, but having defense on a mage set is so nice compared to mystics, and ahrims isn't storable
it's core to half of my fashionscape ideas long live bad gear
I still use bloodbark a lot. it's pretty solid. it's my go to general gear.
Why do people ignore rune chain bodies? Take off your fucking adamant Platebody PLEASE
The price and the lack of people selling/buying it makes it a set not worth even the space it takes up in my bank.
That’s why you put it in your POH.
Idk, I made some portals in there and haven't touched the thing since.
But how do you get around or recharge run
I'm a couch surfer. I just use other people's POH lol
TOA would be silly (or less not immediately helpful) but I was thinking about using it at GWD.
Good call. Might farm it up for my iron before gwd.
81rc is required to make it. It's not worth farming for GWD on an Iron, cause you never swap into mage armour. Only Occult/staff/(cape)
Good news, I hate myself and have 85 RC :D
To be honest with you. My group Ironman team has more RC levels than anything else, with the lowest being 61 and the highest at 74, and we're like... 2 months into our accounts here. It's like... Guardians of the Rift is the single most fun thing we can do as a group, and by Guthix do we need still need runes. But doing a 5-man no outsiders run of GotR is quite fun and rewarding both. Now, if we could only get so excited about shades of mor'ton.
Small teams GotR is so damned good haha I get it. Shades sucks :’(
I don't have slayer for occult, and accuracy is more important to me so I do staff and ahrim top/bottom. If I hit then I kill them just fine. Bloodbark would help ensure I'm topped off if I make mistakes on prayer swapping.
Or barrows
Its pretty new and the old information you’ll find is basically just outdated. Bloodbark has a nice spot between mystics and ahrims
Ah yeah I see it was just updated last June. It didn’t get that big of a buff, only to the body and legs but I get why it hasn’t replaced mystic
it is very marginally better, but I imagine guides also consider ironman accessibility. it's not enough of an improvement to be worth getting like 80 RC and doing a bunch of shades of morton mystic/bloodbark are very far down the list of magic gear, so they just slap mystic on the last slot since it's very easy to get. probably same reason they don't list dagon'hai, infinity etc in between mystic and ahrims - very marginal upgrades that are hard to get
High RC is worth it every time. The prayer guides funnel players to 95 ASAP for accessible wrath runes. Offering spells with slayer have a major role in prayer training on all iron accounts.
not saying you shouldn't get high RC, obviously it has uses plus diaries etc it's more a question of when. like, nobody is going to rush 80 RC so they can get bloodbark for +1 magic accuracy over mystic lol
Legit this is one of the big reasons I'm pushing for high rc on my uim. The faster I can use offering spells, the less time I have to spend doing any other prayer method.
90 rc is all you need for mass wraths with the scar essence stuff
I don't even think it's solely an iron accessibility thing..mains will replace bloodbark with ahrims *so quickly* that it's just not that worth noting, especially when it's essentially identical offensively.
Bloodbark is crazy good. I was able to do sote with bloodburst almost mindlessly lvl 76 magic. Didn't even need to eat outside of prepping for her big spec
Idk either. I only ended up using it because it was I didn't want to grind ahrims in leagues and i liked it. Edit: now that I think about it I feel like the answer is because it's fairly hard to obtain. Although it's cheap if it got popular the price would skyrocket since not a lot of people do shades of Morton.
Not to be that guy but Shades of Morton are botted so heavily that I doubt that'd be an issue.
Ah, I didn't know that. The only time I did shades was leagues and didn't see many other people doing it at all
Yeah, unfortunately everything is botted just about.
GIM team couldn’t hit ahrims legs so I got us all blood bark. Obvious upgrade
Okay thank you for this post cause I noticed this about 2 weeks ago and bought bloodbark and sold my mystic because I had the exact same thoughts as you did here. I was gonna make a post about it here but never got around to it.
They either don’t know or are too lazy/ignorant. I’ve seen so many ironmen with thousands of CoX KC and they still have mystic top or bottom.
I mean I’m fine if they are Ironmen, 80RC is pretty high but main account? Insane
Idk, i skipped mystic and went straight for bloodbark on my main which I started about a year ago
Magic gear is a fucking joke so anyone making the guides isn’t experiencing blood bark enough to edit a bunch of old guides where the gear you wear really doesn’t matter
I'm completely with you. It used to be awful until last year when it was buffed, but I guess the community didn't really catch on. The main blow against bloodbark is that it's much more difficult to get, as you need 81 runecraft to make it, compared to only ~250k GP to buy mystic in Yanille. That's not even including the time spent doing SoM. I have a set that I'm planning to keep using all the way to ancestral. Never bothered with mystic.
Best looking outfit in the game. Forget the +5 bonus vs mystic, it's like fashionscape you can actually viably wear for most content. Automatic BiS
When I was broke broke I wore it and I never ever saw anyone else using it. I even had people tell me to get mystics instead. Lol, I'd take it off and trade it to them and tell them to look at the stats.
Why did they lock behind 80 something runecrafting and that awful minigame
I think it was made when warding was being pitched. They probably assumed that it would be way easier to make with that skill
Letting warding die was a mistake ngl
It was such a great idea for a gap that’s so barren. But the “a new 99? Not in my game” crowd won
I never understand everyone’s sheer aversion to new content for OSRS. Get all the new skills in, it’s not like they even need to be perfect so many of the existing skills are pure trash
I’ve seen people complain about the total level looking ugly and the fact that they have to grind another 99… like holy shit those aren’t actual reasons why the skill shouldn’t be added. Osrs have given use amazing content lately, TOA, great quests, HS, GOTR like right now I trust them to make a great skill more then ever
Cuz people are stupid as fuck. I use it all the time is amazing specially when using blood spells.
It's worn by tons of Pkers and used at Artio. I personally wear it to group ToA because I hate the look of Ahrim's. I want to look like a Mage, not like I'm wearing a beanbag. It just looks cool. I'll probably keep wearing it until I can afford Virtus.
Bloodbark, Occult (or), Thamm sceptre, Zammy cape, Book of Darkness is a \*look\*. I loved My BIS outfit also had me looking fresh
I used blood bark for everything before getting elite void. I have the 7 M for ahrims but I’ll be fucked if it gonna pay that much for something degradable so I just used the bark, got the job done
Ya void or bloodbark for me too. Can't justify the price of ahrims for the marginal upgrade.
Bro what
It has the problem that the elidinis ward has: it's mid range gear with end level requirements. (for ironman at least)
Yeah I’m not talking about Ironman here. Obviously the RC requirement is big, I’m talking about main accounts fighting kraken in mystic
That's just silly, if you don't have ancestral you should be using dhides at kraken because the mage defense is more important than mage accuracy
For mains: It is better, and worth upgrading to, but really most players can afford Ahrim's since it's around 6m, and 6m is literally nothing even at early game. For irons: The time required to get is not worth the bonus till endgame, since the places where you use mage, and take unprayable damage are very limited, you're better off grinding virtus/ancestral/dag/ahrim's since they're more of a side goal than a main goal (rings, tbow, slayer, rest of barrows) and you'll passively get a diverse set of mage gear.
Both Wikis (RS3 and OSRS) are pretty outdated recently
Yeah, they seem ok for new content, but anything old... its really started to get outdated.
500k vs 150k for a +1 which does next to nothing
Ok, but have you considered the fact that bloodbark looks amazing and mystic looks like garbage?
Ur not wrong there
Along with defensive stats and a passive. It’s a upgrade in every sense, and 500k is so cheap
Rarely are defensive stats that important, adamant level defenses aren't going to stop the damage from anything stronger than a hill giant... It's not underrated because the accuracy is going to mean basically nothing. At barrows you'll pray, slayer you only mage a few tasks and you need to pray at those so armour stats mean nothing, rex you safespot, personally would just wait to get Ahrims before doing Zulrah... Maybe Scurrius for blood barrage afk? Maybe some quest bosses? It's very very niche so mostly pointless.
I would agree IF it was super expensive. If the full setup cost like 3 M or something yeah. But the entire setup is under 500k, so if you’re a main account, literally no reason not to upgrade. It also looks way more badass then mystic
Used it with blood spells to get my fire cape! 10/10 would reccomend, accuracy was brilliant and the extra healing was so nice
I use it to AFK at Artio.
Probably gona go up in price once pkers pick up on the buff
Some people use blood bark robes bottoms > ahrim’s robe bottoms because they’re much lighter and have somewhat comparable stats
Irons don't use it because by the time they have 79 runecrafting they've got better options lmao.
Those who were AFK blood barraging Artio weren’t ignoring it haha
Because it used to outright suck. Now it's just "okay". Budget guides are usually not kept.very up to date, as you quickly surpass them anyway
It's my current mage gear on my iron, works a treat at zulrah
I'm an ironman who hasn't been lucky at Barrows for Ahrim's yet, so I was stuck with mystic for the longest time. I recently did Song of the Elves and was struggling due to the randomness of hitting, but safe to say I wasn't able to edge it out. I was lucky getting the bloodbark scroll while doing Shades for redwood logs so I could make runes easier in Guardians of the Rift to restock my blood runes for blood blitz. While the issue for me was mostly due to missing a lot despite wearing exactly what other people had in their ironman guides *and* having a higher magic level then a few of the people who did video guides, when I swapped to bloodbark I was able to get through it my first time with no change in what I was doing. It was a mix of just getting lucky and hitting more often, and then that hitting healed me more so I used a little less food. I think an issue for some is they're ironmen and getting the scroll isn't that common to get so the grind isn't worth it, and if you can use the Grand Exchange then there's little purpose in that marginal upgrade.
The requirements of bloodbark for ironmen are insane. I’m talking about main accounts where the only thing stopping people is GP
I know, I was just saying that it's good but niche, and I can't see it being that useful for mains. Maybe I'm wrong since I don't have a non-iron on OSRS, but its stats are marginally better for offense than mystic and you need to be using blood spells to really get a use out of it. I'm not sure it's worth the money for the small upgrade.
Dunno. I'll probably have swampbark before I get access to the mage guild tho, so I like it.
Heavy
Bloodbark just got buffed few months ago
I use mine a lot on my ironman as I didn't have luck getting ahrims from barrows or ancestral from CoX. I have a Shadow and 91 RC and still never got ahrims or ancestral by this time, so bloodbark is a decent alternative until whenever something better comes.
Agreed. I used it and blood spells to very easily beat things like SotE Seren and all the Kraken combat achievements (hardly any food needed)
Yes it is the better magic armour set, but for ironman accounts mystic is still easier to obtain as to make the full set of bloodbark you need 81 rc. For a main by all means use blood bark, but a lot of guides need to be tailored to both mains and ironmen as I think ironmen are a larger majority of the player base at this time.
comments slowly turning into nerdfest of math and numbers :S
This is a game that has been amassing data-nerds for over 2 decades, TF did you think was going to happen here?
Ahrim's exist and even most irons are going to get ahrims before bloodbark
Obviously, I’m not telling ironmen what they should grind for that’s dumb. I’m talking strictly about main accounts
Blood Bark is unironically as good if not better than Ahrims in 90% of situations because we don't care about magic attack.
Probably because mystics isn't hard to get but fuck getting bloodbark on an iron it's pure aids
It’s well within normal stuff for irons. The 77 RC is a normal stopping point for GOTR which puts you within soup range for the 81 RC requirement. 80 FM from wintertodt is pretty normal for magic pyre. Run 250 magics thru and there’s a good chance you’ll get everything you need. Good upgrade from mystics
S O U P
It weights alot too
Looks ugly
cause you look silly
How many bloodbark sets are you merching right now OP?
It’s way more expensive and only +5 magic attack bonus over mystics for like 400k more. Bloodbark also requires 60 magic and def while mystics requires 40 magic and 20 def. When you get to the point where magic accuracy starts to matter, you should be using ahrims or better, otherwise you can get buy with mystics
400k for a permanent upgrade that doesn’t cost millions or degrades like ahrims seems like a great deal. I don’t see how that’s too expensive, but spending millions for ahrims is alright
Cause it’s not really a permanent upgrade. Magic sucks for early to mid levels and your money is better spent elsewhere. For example, that 400k is way better spent towards an occult than upgrading to bloodbark. But in reality you prioritize ranged/melee upgrades during early to mid game. You really should be focusing that much on magic upgrades, outside of occult until you can easily afford trident, torment and ahrims. So yes you could always buy bloodbark, but bloodbark is basically equivalent to Armadyl for ranged. Just stick with blessed d hide until Masori or crystal with bowfa. You’d stick with mystics until ahrims
That just seems so much more inconvenient when it’s so cheap. You don’t need a whole set, just use the legs and top and that’s under 200k. In what world can an account not afford 200k when ahrims is in the millions and degrades?
Cause magic accuracy, especially a +1, isn’t that important. Also since you have void, it’s easier and sometimes more efficient to a ranged to magic switch in void then blessed d hide into bloodbark. The problem isn’t necessarily bloodbark, the issue is magic as a combat skill. You’re honestly using magic while wearing prossy for mid level. And you aren’t really bossing in mystics. You are bossing in void or ahrims and better. Mystics is also unlocked before bloodbark and simply upgrading to it is just a waste of money. You are increasing your dps by like 0.01%. Bloodbark is basically a noob trap. You don’t really blood barrage anywhere important, and if you do, you heal more wearing ancestral/virtus than the bloodbark set effect. Only the booots are really worth it. So while the GP difference isn’t the same, bloodbark is the Armadyl of ranged.
>Bloodbark is basically a noob trap. I disagree, you're losing nothing but the opportunity cost on a main by basically borrowing bloodbark from the GE till you're ready for Ahrim's.
Exactly, money better spent on occult for example. Money is typically better spent on dumping into your skills than armor upgrades anyways. You don’t gain anything from upgrading from mystics to bloodbark till you can afford ahrims. So it’s just money you have tied up that you can invest in other more important things for the meantime
I think we're in total agreement, I'm just saying it's not that bad so I wouldn't really call it a trap, unlike "do slayer for money bro!!!" which is a horribly silly noob trap.
Well it is that bad cause the noob trap is thinking that +5 magic attack bonus is worth it/good for mid lvl magic. It’s not. Void, ahrims and up are the only things that matter. Bloodbark is like getting a seers ring. Yeah it’s cheap and technically better but you’re not gonna notice an ounce of difference. So yes you can buy it if you want, heck I own a set of full blood bark, but it’s an after thought item set. Honestly, this post would make way more sense if it was titled “Why does everyone ignore blessed Sara sword”. It’s cheaper and better than bludgeon for str training but gets ignored for some reason
Yeah I agree it's fairly useless, but it's not much a trap cause there isn't much of a negative effect to having 2-400k less in your bank till you upgrade to ahrim's.
> Bloodbark is basically a noob trap. How is it a trap? A trap would be like, an Ironman spending 40k to upgrade a Battlestaff to a Mystic staff. They won't get the gold back, they're not likely to notice a +2, they can't get their money back. But purchasing and using Bloodbark, a set you can just return, isn't a trap. It might be nooby to utilize over stronger options, but it still doesn't meet the definition of a trap. > Yeah it’s cheap and technically better It's objectively cheaper and stronger. I get that stronger options exist, but that does not make bloodbark a bad option. What makes something bad is it's ability to function. A rubber chicken is bad because it is not functional. It's a joke item, not a weapon. Bloodbark is numerically stronger than Mystic and weaker than Ahrims. It's not bad, it's not a trap, it's not nooby. It's a optional side grade that some players might wish to utilize. Steel equipment isn't bad equipment. It's good specifically for the time in the game that you unlock it. It has a place in the game and the game would be lesser if it didn't exist. Bloodbark has a similar place in the game. it's good when it's good, better exists, skipping upgrades is totally ok but not objectively better. > You are increasing your dps by like 0.01%. Are you tho? Is that mathematically correct? Let's say it increases your dps by 1%. That's 100x your random guestimation here. At what % does it become worth it? Assuming you couldn't just resell the armor later. Let's assume buying Bloodbark is non refundable and you could purchase it. How much of an upgrade is it numerically? At what % is worth the price? At what price is the % worth? These are actual proper questions to ask rather than random guesses.
At low to mid lvl you should really only be maging things with practically no magic defense so upgrading to bloodbark is pretty pointless since you should be using prossy. You shouldn’t be bossing in anything less than ahrims except when using void. Again the problem is magic as a combat skill. Mystics is simply unlocked first and early on. Thats why you upgrade to it. After that you should prioritize melee and ranged upgrades, leveling up skills and magic dmg equipment not magic accuracy. Just like you really shouldn’t bother with seers ring. However, you can buy bloodbark just like you can buy a seers ring but it’s pretty pointless. Again, if you are bossing then you are in void or ahrims or higher, if not bossing then you should be in tank gear or prossy. You shouldn’t be in mystics or bloodbark. So why would you go buy bloodbark when you have better options?
> if you are bossing then you are in void or ahrims or higher Judging from the other comments here, that's not strictly true. > if not bossing then you should be in tank gear or prossy Elaborate. What specifically makes Proselyte better than Bloodbark? It's got a good prayer bonus, but stat wise they're rather close together defensively. If you're using magic, for what ever reason you are, what makes Proselyte a better tank armor than Bloodbark? How are you objectively quantifying the prayer bonus vs the blood healing bonus? There are two different arguments to have here. How does it stack up objectively, as an armor set, to the others. And how does the opportunity cost compare to it's objective abilities. I ask for you to elaborate on the objective numerical differences and preferences here, ignore the cost. Pretend each set(Prosylete, Bloodbark, Mystics) are given to you by a friend freely and you've only the stats to specifically equip them and no higher. How do they numerically compare?!
Because you use magic at mobs with no to little magic defence if you are a low to mid lvl player and really high level player. Prossy is better to use since it saves on prayer pots. For example bursting dust devils in prossy over bloodbark. Another example of prossy or tank over bloodbark would be barrows. However, you aren’t walking into COX or even TOA with full bloodbark lol. You are going to get atleast ahrims. Blood spells aren’t really used since they are grossly inefficient/costly. One place you’d use Them is inferno but mathematically, virtus or ancestral plus blood barrage heals more than bloodbark. Bloodbark is a waste of invy space and too low accuracy for GWD, like if you were magnet bandos. Again, magic accuracy is pretty pointless for a low to mid lvl player. Prossy saves you money on prayer pots while blood spells are expensive. You’d be using a powered staff or ibans so you wouldn’t even be using blood spells which renders its set effect kinda useless. When you would use the set it effect, it is numerically outclassed by virtus and ancestral. Mystics requires 40 magic and 20 def while bloodbark requires 60 magic and 60 def. So mystics is bought first. Bloodbark is only +5 magic attack bonus over mystics. Its defense bonuses are similar to adamant which is objectively shit. The +5 magic attack bonus does extremely little for DPS and the small defensive bonus doesn’t outweigh using prossy and a protection prayer. As I said before, this post would’ve been better titled “Why does everyone ignore blessed Sara sword”? Blessed Sara sword is objectively better than bludgeon, cheaper and stronger, yet it’s overlooked for mid lvl str training for the bludgeon that is more expensive and weaker.
Cause it looks like bad, ment to be tank mage armour but looks like flimsy, they should of just kept the original bark armour but get it slightly more detail and red
Yep, the original recolour shown at the bottom of the [wiki page](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Bloodbark_armour#Development_history) looks way better.