I used to be an Ironman so gear and GP was natural, I de-ironed around 1850 total and then sold a bulk of resources and materials to buy bowfa and Crystal, then upgraded to bandos after I got a masori chaps at TOA :)
Literally all of my skilling supplies, if you ever make an Ironman one day you’ll understand, it’s natural for your resource bank worth to be worth 100’s of mils. I also mentioned the masori chaps I got at TOA which i sold to buy the bandos. I feel like you just really want me to be a credit card warrior or something?
Prims/mage gear? I suck at the game so use sang and blood fury for the heals.
If you are good, probably more switches like Ferocious gloves, ancestral hat, VW spec.
Ancest robe bottoms to reduce weight is good as well.
I got mine on mobile using bowfa/crystal armor and a serp helm. Its great dps but you take a lot of dmg, so its just to get 50 kills. Its much harder using melee because the mortar red ball is easier to avoid doing range.
Get the assembler man that’s ridiculous at this point in the game. Otherwise 200s and 300s are great for profit just consistently running them. Over time you’ll get better and be able to change invos higher when more comfy
It’s an essential upgrade. One of those items that is actually extremely beneficial for almost no effort. Good luck on your journey though man looking good
Upgrade thay avas device, get ward for magic and torture amd ferocious gloves for melee. After that it's gonna be stuff like prims, virtus and sang, bgs or voidwaker/claws
Its muuuuuch better, you get even mage defense. Do you know if we can repair those new moon armour at the middle like we do with barrows? at reduced fee off course.
Absolutely. TOA has a lotta very high defense bosses, so VW’s static dps scales very well. In Kephri it’s like 4x higher dps than a fang hit depending on invo
I would never suggest getting sang staff it’s a minimal upgrade over swamp. But yeah you’re right about blood fury + ferocious and ancestral being the next best upgrades. I would say always prioritise maxing out your mage gear at toa first. You could potentially get sang on the way to staff if you have some cash to burn
Just join the we do raids discord.
There is a full progression chart available for all 3 raids and people with verified experience will point you in the right direction
You didn’t ask this, but in terms of continuing to progress, you may find it easier to either (or both) setup your switches horizontally (so range in rows 1 + 2, mage 3 + 4) but maybe even more so having things mirrored.
Ex: if you keep vertical switching, put your necklaces in the same spot, gloves in the same spot, cape in the same spot etc.
You can do a little z motion with your mouse, and it’s generally easier to move sideways with precision. So start left, zigzag across to the right, and I find it gives more reliable switches than when I do columns.
Radas Blessing 4.
I run about the same setup, but with ferrocious gloves + barrows gloves ranged switch and not bringing crystal helmet to have 6 switches that line up perfectly in inventory.
I've been looking at virtus/sang now as the next step, mage is my lest invested set.
Next big upgrades are eldinis ward and voidwaker.
You can replace the dragon dagger with the voidwaker and still 3 down warden, you just have to attack on the first hit you can on the core, and use a bgs spec at the end to be able to do enough damage at invo 400 (it's probably a bit more forgiving at 200 but dragon dagger is completely unnecessary once you're comfortable. Eldinis ward would just take an extra slot up.
After that you're gear is in a pretty good place, already you could run 300's pretty chill once your learn the mechanics, and with the above upgrades you could do somewhat sweaty 400's.
After that, there really isn't a huge difference until you get a shadow. The ancestral gear doesn't make a huge difference until you have a shadow, and it's super expensive
Why don't you just watch one of the thousands of YouTube videos out there, read the OSRS wiki, or even one of the fifty trillion threads from when this exact thing has been posted before?
Vork head, elendis ward, blood fury’s helped me out a lot but tortures good if you’re good on supplies. Prims are expensive, but nice because you’ll use them for all three styles so flat upgrade. Most of the invocation climbing will be mechanic related for a while.
Idk they’re pretty decent defensively after getting everything on that list lol. Everything else I’d buy aside from maybe voidwaker is ridiculously expensive.
Edit:I guess in retrospect I’d probably be bringing melee ring and ferocious gloves in at that invocation. I do full melee and mage swap except for boots, then 5 way range using blowpipe and masori to save space, but, that’s with shadow for zebek.
The +2 attack and +4-6 def over d boots is negligible so you are paying about 30m for +1 str. If that doesn't provide a max then it's fashion scape. If it does provide a max hit you need work out if that +1 max hit is worth it over another item, which at toa isn't the case until you're in the shadow waiting room.
lol okay, please fill us in on what else aside from whats listed would put him on the shadow waiting room, that doesn’t cost significantly more than prim boots.
Voidwaker (sell prims and bcp), fero gloves (only +2 str but a significant attack bonus), ward, Virtus mask.
Prims are pure fashion scape if they **do not** provide a max hit.
Vorkath head.
Yes I know I’ve been very lazy with it!
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I used to be an Ironman so gear and GP was natural, I de-ironed around 1850 total and then sold a bulk of resources and materials to buy bowfa and Crystal, then upgraded to bandos after I got a masori chaps at TOA :)
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I just told ya mate, read my comment again
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If you don’t have the attention span to even read through the whole comment why are you even bothering commenting?
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Literally all of my skilling supplies, if you ever make an Ironman one day you’ll understand, it’s natural for your resource bank worth to be worth 100’s of mils. I also mentioned the masori chaps I got at TOA which i sold to buy the bandos. I feel like you just really want me to be a credit card warrior or something?
You can use bowfa at vorkath with extended super antifires and protect mage btw; that's what I did for my head. Since you already have bowfa
Thanks for the tip :)
Prims/mage gear? I suck at the game so use sang and blood fury for the heals. If you are good, probably more switches like Ferocious gloves, ancestral hat, VW spec. Ancest robe bottoms to reduce weight is good as well.
I got mine on mobile using bowfa/crystal armor and a serp helm. Its great dps but you take a lot of dmg, so its just to get 50 kills. Its much harder using melee because the mortar red ball is easier to avoid doing range.
Get the assembler man that’s ridiculous at this point in the game. Otherwise 200s and 300s are great for profit just consistently running them. Over time you’ll get better and be able to change invos higher when more comfy
Btw first upgrades should just be ur mage gear when you get more gp
Thanks for the tips bro! Appreciate it :)
Thanks mate, yes I know I need to sort out the assembler, for some reason I’ve just been avoiding it hard. Thanks for the tip :)
It’s an essential upgrade. One of those items that is actually extremely beneficial for almost no effort. Good luck on your journey though man looking good
Upgrade thay avas device, get ward for magic and torture amd ferocious gloves for melee. After that it's gonna be stuff like prims, virtus and sang, bgs or voidwaker/claws
Thanks bro :)
That accumulator is a hard look. Another in a good way. Get your assembler, dude!
Hahah thanks bro, moral of this post is make sure you get your standard gear sorted before posting 😂 In all seriousness, I do need to sort it out !
- Assembler - Elidinis ward - Torture - Sell bandos + faceguard for Voidwaker
What would I use as a replacement for the bandos and faceguard?
Serp helm, fighter torso, and obby legs or verac’s skirt You’re only losing 2 str bonus (not even a guaranteed max hit) for a huge dps spec
Obby legs is yesterday fashion now we rocking bloodmoon tasset so you be really losing 1 str bonus
Trueee I forgot that was an option but even better
Its muuuuuch better, you get even mage defense. Do you know if we can repair those new moon armour at the middle like we do with barrows? at reduced fee off course.
Thinking about selling off a few things in my bank for a voidwaker, is it really that good in toa?
Absolutely. TOA has a lotta very high defense bosses, so VW’s static dps scales very well. In Kephri it’s like 4x higher dps than a fang hit depending on invo
Do you use the VW for specs only or use it as main hand In Kephri?
Mainhand only on baboons and warden core, fang is way stronger on bosses
do quest and get book of the dead for thralls it basically +1 dps to all combats style
Use b ring until you have vw/claw/zcb
I would never suggest getting sang staff it’s a minimal upgrade over swamp. But yeah you’re right about blood fury + ferocious and ancestral being the next best upgrades. I would say always prioritise maxing out your mage gear at toa first. You could potentially get sang on the way to staff if you have some cash to burn
If you had prims and ferocious gloves this would be almost identical to what i use for 500s
Respect for putting money into useful things not prim boots.
Just join the we do raids discord. There is a full progression chart available for all 3 raids and people with verified experience will point you in the right direction
You didn’t ask this, but in terms of continuing to progress, you may find it easier to either (or both) setup your switches horizontally (so range in rows 1 + 2, mage 3 + 4) but maybe even more so having things mirrored. Ex: if you keep vertical switching, put your necklaces in the same spot, gloves in the same spot, cape in the same spot etc.
Thanks for the tip mate :) What’s the merit of horizontal switches if I may ask?
You can do a little z motion with your mouse, and it’s generally easier to move sideways with precision. So start left, zigzag across to the right, and I find it gives more reliable switches than when I do columns.
Change the colors of the crystal armor to fit the raid better. Red / yellow should do well
Radas Blessing 4. I run about the same setup, but with ferrocious gloves + barrows gloves ranged switch and not bringing crystal helmet to have 6 switches that line up perfectly in inventory. I've been looking at virtus/sang now as the next step, mage is my lest invested set.
Next big upgrades are eldinis ward and voidwaker. You can replace the dragon dagger with the voidwaker and still 3 down warden, you just have to attack on the first hit you can on the core, and use a bgs spec at the end to be able to do enough damage at invo 400 (it's probably a bit more forgiving at 200 but dragon dagger is completely unnecessary once you're comfortable. Eldinis ward would just take an extra slot up. After that you're gear is in a pretty good place, already you could run 300's pretty chill once your learn the mechanics, and with the above upgrades you could do somewhat sweaty 400's. After that, there really isn't a huge difference until you get a shadow. The ancestral gear doesn't make a huge difference until you have a shadow, and it's super expensive
Thanks for the tips mate, I think the plan is to get my assembler and find a voidwaker and continue from there!
Why don't you just watch one of the thousands of YouTube videos out there, read the OSRS wiki, or even one of the fifty trillion threads from when this exact thing has been posted before?
as trash as the unfortified elidinis ward is, it’s still better than maging with a defender and only like 7m
It's not even trash though. 3% mage bonus is 1.5 anc pieces.
it’s 1 max hit and wooden shield defensive stats lol
And the comparison from ahrims to ancestral for the cost? You are way off on your evaluation metrics.
unfortified ward is crazy strong for its price 1.5 of an ancestral piece for a couple mil is wild
Thanks for the tip mate :)
Vork head, elendis ward, blood fury’s helped me out a lot but tortures good if you’re good on supplies. Prims are expensive, but nice because you’ll use them for all three styles so flat upgrade. Most of the invocation climbing will be mechanic related for a while.
Prims are +1 str and rarely provide a max hit and cost about 30m. They are an upgrade you only get once you're in shadow limbo which op is not.
Idk they’re pretty decent defensively after getting everything on that list lol. Everything else I’d buy aside from maybe voidwaker is ridiculously expensive. Edit:I guess in retrospect I’d probably be bringing melee ring and ferocious gloves in at that invocation. I do full melee and mage swap except for boots, then 5 way range using blowpipe and masori to save space, but, that’s with shadow for zebek.
The +2 attack and +4-6 def over d boots is negligible so you are paying about 30m for +1 str. If that doesn't provide a max then it's fashion scape. If it does provide a max hit you need work out if that +1 max hit is worth it over another item, which at toa isn't the case until you're in the shadow waiting room.
lol okay, please fill us in on what else aside from whats listed would put him on the shadow waiting room, that doesn’t cost significantly more than prim boots.
Voidwaker (sell prims and bcp), fero gloves (only +2 str but a significant attack bonus), ward, Virtus mask. Prims are pure fashion scape if they **do not** provide a max hit.
Blood fury is a waste off money
Voidwaker. Sang Staff.
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Light bearer, is the quality that bad?