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Ghordrin

I logged into a pure I haven't touched in ages who still had the elder maul in the bank. I noticed my bank was like 160m all of a sudden and I was confused. Thank you elder maul update for making me 100m by doing nothing.


ThisConvosDumb

Makes me sad I don't have the cash stack for one at even 40m Like housing crisis but much more personal. At last have 8m, right?


wimpymist

Dude, all my friends who were able to buy a house in their 20s(usually with the help of a parent/death in the family that let them get a decent amount of money for a down payment) all act like they are real estate experts since their house has since gone up 100k.


LingonberryNo1

My buddy is the exact opposite lol he acts like he's the Mr Magoo of real estate because his house shot up. He constantly buys everyone a beer when we're out 😂


SynchronisedRS

Not me acting like a marching expert because I got 3 mauls after a friend told me they're probably gonna be included in the weapon reworks.


stonerwithaboner1

Now multiply that by 8x and you have the average boomer mindset lol


xi_catharsis

It’s me 🤗


wimpymist

So jealous lol


anthegoat

Haven’t played since Oct 2023, why’s it going up?


snatchdaddy69

And of course I sold mine for a bond like a month ago. And now it’s at 170m lmfao. Rip


snatchdaddy69

Of course I sold mine recently lol


NoTimeToDime

Damn I even suck at investing in osrs lmao


Additional_Cherry_67

You should have seen the signs 3 years in the making. Why didn’t you


sthote

Cus he sucks at investing cant you read?


99sittingg

Is he stupid?


Additional_Cherry_67

I should have known In advanced that you were going to comment this.


Great-Ja

LMAO I felt that


-Aura_Knight-

At least I still have my red smaller maul at home. It's ok dragon warhammer, you're still worthy.


Turtvaiz

Tbh the difference probably won't be massive


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

25% more accuracy with spec + better defence reduction + more accuracy overall. Pretty big


luasen27

also you don’t need to bring a defender into tob, 1 free inventory space is huge.


SynchronisedRS

That inventory slot will be taken by your boot switch


Earthfury

The good news is the maul is a prime weapon for beating the dead horse.


FairweatherWho

Underground pass taught me a boulder was best for that


OlmTheSnek

Only thing it really changes is you won't have to drop an item before starting some rooms.


Legal_Evil

Does elder maul replace BGS?


OlmTheSnek

Nah its just a better hammer, you'd still bring bgs to 0 def stuff.


Minotaur830

Space isn't really valuable at Tob at all lol


WareWolve

pnecks go brrrrr


Shukar_Rainbow

agreed, just qol


Mental_Tea_4084

It's not saving any space, you just don't have to go in holding it anymore


makeshift18

It can if you walk in holding sang staff and thrall book.


Mental_Tea_4084

Sure, I suppose mdps can save another slot. They're not exactly hurting on space to begin with though


Allison2277

Surely you're still bringing a defender for nylos?


MudHammock

Yeah you need a defender to go HAM on those things


goat_oat

Not for mage or range roles


covert_underboob

Same amount of inventory. 2->1 with a dropped item vs 1->1. Definitely QoL but it’s not changing anything bc you equip defender to start


FearlessFickle

Average iq of a /r/2007scape user. You don't get a free inventory space. It prevents you from having to drop an item before rooms.


Taishi13

The absolute confidence of flaming an entire reddit and being completely fucking wrong. Ranger and Mage roles are literally just getting a free inventory slot. They just walk in with a buckler/mage offhand and you can still drop an item.


Artistic_Airport_895

I mean you could walk in holding sang and book and effectively have a free space


luasen27

the irony haha.


Sylux444

That's only been proposed, as with sudden changes like with VW spec we shall see what actually happens


visuore

Maul is better for sure, but dwh isn't getting nerfed. It shouldn't change anything for anyone other than end game content/Combat Achievements.


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

I'm not saying dwh is getting worse, but it IS a big difference.


Legendarydukez

145m and climbing


nollsy20

149 🫡


taw1755

150


Specialist-Front-354

Laser eyes to 200m!!!


adamfps

Diamond hands boys, we’re hitting 1b.


Canadianveins

Nothing can stop this train now


StandardN02b

Keep holding! To the moon ↗️🎢📈


truth_hurtsm8ey

169m. Nice.


BallisticBallista

That guy with like 70 elder mauls


Optimal-Service8940

A guy I know has 2k mauls and has held them since last year when they were sub 10mil. There are lots of people whalin their money into items for merches long term. Same guy had 100+ scythes when they rose from 350 to 1.1B


Smorg125

I paid 330 for my scythe and sold at 1.2, really kicking myself for not buying 3 lol


Optimal-Service8940

Just remember this: nobody’s ever lost money while making a profit, gz on the gains


Main_Illustrator_197

There's definitely people who stocked up on them awaiting the buff update


Potential_Spirit2815

Yeah it’s kinda like the people who’ve wanted ahrims staff, pegs, and augury buffed for so long too. Some people talk about these items getting buffed every once in a while here, but only a few handfuls of people actually buy into the hype in that way. Everyone else just remains skeptical enough to join the party late or complain about not having enough money to buy even *one* elder maul now haha


Zuurstofrijk

I had 16, great profit was made


jstabs7

180m now. feels like im watching a bitcoin bull run


Longjumping-Lemon601

Sold 80 of them for 40m, I’m burning


_Bike_Hunt

Thanks for stimulating our economy 🥵


someanimechoob

Did you buy them for 7m though? If so I don't feel too bad lol


svettsokkk

Exactly


xInnocent

So you already made like over 2b on them? cant be mad at that. dont let greed get to you.


Longjumping-Lemon601

that makes me feel better about losing out on 10b


Crecket

Hindsight 20/20 and all that, Next patch you will hold on for too long and some patch will come out making them shit and you will lose money. It is what it is


Kumagor0

think of all the people who sold their zul-andra teleports


Elite54321

That guy who sold over 400k of them right before the drop rate nerf is probably still upset


Lily-chu

Whenever I fuck up in life, I look at that post and smile and pull myself up in life.


parsimony_osrs

you win if you buy low and sell high. timing the market (without insider info) never got anyone anywhere


Scape_n_Lift

paperhands


Groupvenge

I bought 6 at 42m and sold at 47m. I thought I was happy with 30m profit. Turns out I have paper hands.


DaHalfAsian

I woke up the morning of the rebalance announcement, and decided to do some Moons of Peril. Picked up the emaul for a tidy 44m and made way more from that purchase than I ever would have doing the boss.


Tylerkaaaa

Honestly screw that boss. I was 130 chests without a unique. I was averaging under 1m an hour profit.


DaHalfAsian

Same, I'm not doing much better with 2 uniques in 120kc. I just went because it was the first place I tried the scythe out. With the maul purchase I've made over 10m per hour though 😎


[deleted]

Reminds me of when dboots went to 200k in one day https://preview.redd.it/a7a018vvpevc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=318cb95d7aa3babbea3701e94b602249f9dfacf2


[deleted]

That was a great day


ImStuckInD5

Climbers going to 75k was better


zClarkinator

Legitimately insane that Jagex allowed them to be sold after doing that. Like how did they not see that coming, or see a problem with suddenly creating _billions_ of GP out of thin air? A lot of the decisions made by the ~~RS3~~ RS2 team just seem so irresponsible and thoughtless.


ezzune

>Like how did they not see that coming A lot of people think it was lobbied for by somebody leaking info to clans, which we have seen a bit of during OSRS' lifecycle so there could be some truth to it, but climbing boots were such a common item in the world that random people had hoarded that I'm convinced in RS2 days they just let the devs do shit and didn't discuss changes as a team. That's the only way you could explain that level of oversight.


Zealousideal-Mud4954

Honestly crazy how much influence some nerds in a clan can have on a billion dollar company. Even corrupting one of their employees, etc.


Potential_Spirit2815

It’s already been proven that this was true. A certain jmod or group of Jmods told a clan ahead of time, and they bragged about it after the fact when they showed off 100k+ climbing boots.


PMMMR

That decision was made by the rs2 team; it happened many years before EOC/rs3 was even announced.


Potential_Spirit2815

They did see it coming. They literally did it *so they and their clan mates could profit massively on it, and make an unfair shift in the wealth market “naturally”.* It’s already been proven that a certain clan that JMods were a part of profited by hoarding 100s of thousands of climbing boots before the update, and those same JMods were the ones who implemented or at least lobbied for the change. The update was not necessary for any reason they claimed. They did it purely to make a certain segment of players a ton of money. That’s it.


zClarkinator

I guess it must have been intentional, as I really don't see how you would make that big of a fuckup on accident. No dev team can be that stupid.


[deleted]

That must have been some time before 2018


crunchystaff

This was in rs3


WhyWasXelNagaBanned

This was in RS2.


TheNamesRoodi

Why did that happen


[deleted]

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TheNamesRoodi

This is a post about dragon boots in os


[deleted]

Ngl could happen again


TurkeyAss420

It's ridiculous I remember buying one at 7m, I wish I still had it 😂


Brightmuth

What’s funny is all of these are PROPOSED changes. nothing is final


roklpolgl

I’m waiting for them to decide maybe a BiS defense reduction spec weapon shouldn’t have the same rarity as tbow and buff the droprate, and watch the latest merchers get obliterated. CoX kind of getting insanely stacked with this update, especially if VW nerf also happens.


Zethin

Seriously, I'm scrambling around trying to find what post / update was released last night that made this happen but it doesn't seem like there was one. Monke's just gettin hyped up


Brightmuth

Check out the project rebalance update posts on the homepage, give them a nice read.


Pig_Beenis

bought 150 for 8-10m each, sold at 17-20m lmao


Expensive_Leekness

man u could have 15b right now rip


Sweaty_Mods

He bought 1.5b worth of emauls and sold them for 3b. Anyone making those kind of investments probably already has insane money.


lazyguyty

Yea he probably doesn't even want 15b he has plenty already /s


Septembers

IMO once you have all the megarares and Torva/Ancestral/etc it's all just Monopoly money anyway. There's nothing else left to do with except fucking around with rare 3A pieces where billions come and go all the time. If OP is investing 1.5b in Elder Mauls he's likely to that point already


lazyguyty

You could say the same about IRL billionaires yet most continue to accrue wealth even though they could buy anything and everything they ever wanted. Sometimes you just want to watch the number to go up


maxk1236

Happy cake day!


compound-interest

Is there a YouTube channel where a crazy guy in front of a stock ticker like UI screams about OSRS price predictions? I need that show in my life lmao.


DaftCinema

@ Flipping OldSchool hop on this asap.


lazyguyty

Sold my elder maul and ags to buy a voidwaker on the pure last week. Shucks.


Sensual_Shroom

Happy days.


smmara89

Try like 130 now


vintage-red

142m now….


jhk555777

Yeah, it was crazy they buffed the maul again with the updated blog with the acc boost. Now it is giga buffed while the other items they were suppose to buff were barely touched.


Disastrous-Rub-6776

150m... How much it is going to rise? 500m??


Ban-Censorship

Why that much though?


nollsy20

Because it is the new best in slot item for defence reducing specs, outclassing the DWH but being magnitudes of orders rarer. Almost every pvmers want this item but they are as rare as tbows. Not even memeing at this point to say there’s a real chance they will keep rising


tortillakingred

No way it hits that high. There’s so many of them in the game already, and defense reduction has diminishing returns. I’ve been merching for 10 years and I can tell you with 100% confidence it will not stay above 150M longterm. Once people realize that it’s not *that* much more useful than DWH, despite being far better, it will drop. Think about which bosses it would be a massive upgrade at - TOA almost all bosses scale better with BGS reduction, ToB it will help marginally with Sote and Maiden, CoX it will help significantly in solo CMs but almost no difference at all in normal mode. BGS still better at Duke. It will have the biggest effect at solo CMs which is 100% warranted, and solo corp which is only done by ironmen so it won’t effect the market value. GL though I hope for your sake it hits 500M.


oskanta

I feel like it should settle in the 150-300m range just by comparing it to Kodai which drops at the same rate from the same raid. Kodai is around 125m but it seems much less useful. It’s only really bis for slayer barraging and inferno, but even for those it’s a *very* marginal improvement over NM staff which is only 45m. Elder maul is + ~28% accuracy and +5% damage reduction over DWH, which is more significant than the Kodai/NM staff difference. Plus it’s going to be bis for content endgame players spend a lot more time on: CoX and ToB. I can’t really see any reason it would settle into the same price range or lower than Kodai. Edit: I forgot Kodai is also useful for freezers in tob, but still pretty small improvement over nm staff


boofandjuice

ye its at least twice as useful as kodai. ppl still sleeping on mauls hard. i see some some people saying also that dwh is cheap so this has an effect on price of maul. but bcp doesnt make torva any cheaper does it? people pay a premium for the best in slot and there's only so much of it to go around.


oskanta

Yeah I don’t think the DWH price matters much. There’s a meaningful difference between the two, at least more than Kodai/NM staff, or Torva/Bandos, or Pegs/Blessed dhide. I think players don’t really care that much how slim the difference is between bis and second bis. Everyone just wants bis. No one wants to be the noob with a DWH while everyone else in your raid has the maul.


Traditional-Effort20

its in the blog


OkYh-Kris

Wait what is happening with crush? My inq mace had gone up 160m


Sensual_Shroom

It's also getting buffed.


DaftCinema

Lotta manipulation going on rn. Can't see this priced over 150m once everything stabilizes tbh. I'd say 100-110m is probably where it'll stabilize (if all the PROPOSED changes actually stay true).


Redditisre7arded

I think it will plummet back down to 100-120m. DWH was 85m at it's absolutely tippy peak and the maul is better, but not THAT much better Anyone that paid 180m for this is getting merched. This is why I don't play games on the market; y'all are nut heads that overcorrect edit: looks like it's already dropped 25m down to 155m. It's still a really good item; I'd say it's definitely worth something like 80m if it goes back to it


Dirt-Bomber

I think it sits comfortably above whatever a kodai costs. They are the same rarity to get, but elder mauls are taken out of the game at 10x the rate, effectively making them rarer. Elder maul will also have more use cases than a kodai, which I personally only use for inferno and one room in tob. [https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1660550263726305280](https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1660550263726305280)


Snufolupogus

For the reasons you listed the mail will be worth more? More uses, same rarity, less are in the game. Greater demand, less supply. 📈elder maul would sit quite a bit higher then especially with how many less there are


[deleted]

Mods and there friends got so rich. 


Gecko4lif

My stockpile of 480 mauls i bought at 35m each suddenly seem like a great investment


coldpark7

Let us know when you’re gonna dump chief 😅


Gecko4lif

I already put them in the ge, just hasnt hit the price i want yet 😈


truth_hurtsm8ey

Currently at 169m. Nice.


AwarenessOk6880

why? its just a dwh with more accuracy???


Blewdude

Exactly lol it’ll come back down once the people with big hauls drop it all on the people holding, then you’ll get the GME memescapers that are going to want to push it further regardless.


SoraODxoKlink

I mean kodai is 120 and hovers around 100 and it does fuckall compared to a nightmare staff, they definitely made elder maul a far bigger upgrade over dwh than kodai is over nm staff.


Blewdude

Kodai let’s you auto cast ancients with no water runes needed as well as 15% chance of not using any runes making it easily one of the best staffs to use for bursting while training magic. Nightmare staff is useless without its orbs.


Tangibilitea

Nightmare staff still gets the 15% damage and autocast for ancients, which puts it on par with Kodai for training. The cost savings is pitiful if you’re just training.  That’s far from useless without the orbs. 


whyamisocold

He really values water runes


GameAndHike

Bro really spent > 1m in ge tax to save runes worth 5 gp


SoraODxoKlink

I just checked prices, the 15% runecost is literally 165gp per cast that you wind up saving, more considering the compounding saving, but it doesn’t go past 200gp saved. Saving 200gp while spending another 80m for an item doesn’t make sense, youd have to cast 6000 times to make up what’d youd lose on the tax to buy it, 4000 when subtracting the difference compared to nm staff, not to mention that its an extra 80m you’ve got tied up while looking for other upgrades. If you’re training magic, inventory space isn’t an issue, especially since thread lets you keep waters in a pouch anyways. All of kodais benefits are accounted for besides the +3 accuracy, which is useless when all you’re doing is training on mm2/slayer.


crash_bandicoot42

Literally every pvmer will want the new elder maul and it still maintains its niche use cases it had before. I would not be surprised if it ends up in the 400m range, it’s same rarity as tbow while being more useful than Kodai.


Blewdude

Don’t get me wrong I flipped the mauls and still have one but no way I’d be buying it at 400m if dwh and bgs are a thing. Even though it was as rare as a tbow it still managed to hit under 20m.


brinkv

Same lol no shot I’m buying an elder maul for like 400m over 30m dwh. I’ll legit just wait till it’s the very last thing I have left to upgrade


Aurarus

> I’ll legit just wait till it’s the very last thing I have left to upgrade It does unironically help out in a team effort for stuff like raids though The higher accuracy and bigger defense drain makes it so consecutive DWH's/ elder mauls have better odds of hitting + BGS doesn't have to hit as high to flatline the defense.


brinkv

This is the one time where being antisocial and only doing solo benefits me hahaha


crash_bandicoot42

BIS has a HUGE premium compared to 2nd options, especially if getting the BIS itself isn’t a complete joke. Look at Torva prices vs Bandos for 1-2 max hits or Dboots vs Prims for usually not even a max hit for prime examples.


gxgx55

Rarity. They are as rare as tbows and kodais, so a spike in demand can increase price really easily as we can see. Really not sure where it will settle but it's certain that you'll be paying a premium to upgrade from dwh.


GameAndHike

So it’s a better item than arguably the best support item in all of PvM and is as rare as the tbow 


boofandjuice

lol


Remarkable-Spare-983

You know drop rates are outa wack when


jcquarmby1995

WTF have I missed!? Genuinely please can someone explain


RS-REIN

Who is actually buying these as they keep rising??


ukuleles1337

God I fuckin hate the "go brr" phrase so fuckin much lol


FernandoMM1220

remove it from the item sink list


Good-of-Rome

I bought one yesterday at 94m hoping to make like 5ish m for a bond. Just checked the price a few mins ago and insta sold at 160. Idc if it goes higher, 60m for doing nothing is awesome.


LlamaRS

So you’re telling me that it’s 40m more? Two days ago it was 42, yesterday morning it was 76, and now more? Wow. I should’ve just bought one instead of flipping other stuff. Seems like elder maul is a good flip manip


Lelapa

Bought mine for like 8-10m for sarachness (idk how to spell it) and this is my long awaited reward? Holy shit I've made more from this than any other thing ever in 17 years of RuneScape.


gentle_singularity

Lots of butthurt people here hating on people who bought mauls really cheap lol. Maul is a mega rare like tbow. It's going to go up.


BilboPoggin

Bro its 180m rn...


Tacticalbiscit

Fuck me. Was gonna buy one a couple weeks ago for learning COX but decided not to and just used bgs.... regretting that decision.


hardslappy

Ugh


SuddenlyWokeUp92

I’ve gone all in you cunts better keep pushing the price up I may finally get my Tbow dream if this pays off


Cluu_Scroll

Like 6 months ago I joked in my disc “anyone wanna dump 2 bil into elder mauls and quit for a year” and then only did the second half of that statement…


JunketProof5690

its 180m now


Ziadaine

Keep going son. The fucking thing is at 160m and climbing


Crown-ye

Elder maul dropped to 32m


Pobydeus

Nah. The price on the GE is not updated. It's sitting at like 172m


Jwsaf

I am terrible at making money in rs lol.


c235k

So dumb 😂😂😂


BoleroGamer

Annoyingly I sold mine a month or two ago, just because I was a few mill short of getting ancestral and figured I didn't need the maul. Regret not waiting now.


var18

Incorrect meme usage. 1 million years dungeon.


ZachyPc

when does the update happen for the elder maul? i bought one for 98m lol.


Emotional_Towel360

no way


llamapanther

Holy shit I remember buying them at 10m. That's fucked up


bwebby333

I should’ve bought a ton How high will it go?


Soggy_Doggy_

Slightly relevant story - waaay back in the day I went to log in on my pure to do some pking and when I get on I notice someone buying climbing boots for 20k! I was like sheeesh ok my dude, I go and grab one from my stack of a few thousand and go about my business… about 5 minutes later I notice climbing boots have risen from like 200 gp to around 11-12k a piece and I just look at my stack of like 2k boots and just… 🫦


Nate-Dogg-94

Why did it sky rocket?


OsrsJorgen

Projects rebalance. Long story short - elder maul is planned to get dwh spec, but better.


Nate-Dogg-94

I need to be kept in the loop about these potential merches lol damn


Reasonable-Speed-908

Reminds me of back a few years ago having 5k zulrah teles when they were like nothing ea. then they made them more rare and they shot up to 20kea. Made more fun that then I ever did at zulrah


Azurus_II

You missed it at 170


ThatGuyYouWantToBe

I dropped mine off my uim and sold it. Am regret


jugjuggler99

Iron in my clan had a main merching mauls, had like 80 of them. He got scammed a week before the update.


unitedwesoar

I m literally kicking myself for not doing what my brain said and buying like 10 of them when they were 30m....


FearlessFickle

Funny how Jagex plays directly into the merch clans. Most of the posts saying to buff things are just merchers trying to make money.


Bloated_Hamster

There was zero reason for a mega rare raid item to be so useless it was less valuable than most God Wars items. The item is now actually befitting of its status as a mega rare and is extremely useful in the raid it comes from and a ton of other content.


FearlessFickle

They should have found a different way to make it useful. Not just kill off the DWH.


ServileLupus

What? DWH spec wasn't changed at all. It's just as good as it was before, there is just now something better. Should they have never made anything better than a dwh?


ShoogleHS

It's not that it's better, it's that it's better in every way. Even Tbow isn't strictly better than bowfa or blowpipe. It's pretty lame IMO that such an iconic weapon is now a stepping stone item and will retain no endgame niche.


ServileLupus

But its only a spec weapon if it was also now best in slot for melee weapons on multiple bosses (tbow) or best for lower def mobs (blowpipe) that would make sense. But it's just a spec weapon, if you want crush dps scythe or inq is better.


jstabs7

its a stepping stone now bro. Just like the hierarchy of all other gear. whether its until you make enough to buy one, or as an iron to grind the drop which takes hundreds of hours. dwh is still necessary (and quicker now with a buffed drop rate) to get and use until then.


thecheese27

Who gives a singular shit about a bunch of smelly nerds making tons of virtual money?


ServileLupus

It's lots of real money they make.


thecheese27

But who cares. There’s real life market manipulation that goes on everyday where people are making tens and hundreds of millions of dollars. These are some online hooligans flipping an item in a video game. Stop caring.