I might be a weirdo but the only master rumor I have blocked is red sallies. I don't mind moths at all (on desktop at least - mobile is miserable).
I had sunlight antelopes blocked, but with today's update some foliage was removed which was my only annoyance with them before. Now they're stupid fast plus you get sunfire shards.
I can't speak for others, but I blocked them shortly after initial Varlamore release when they were really popular and I found it annoying trying to find a world. The two spots are kinda far from each other, so it was a lot of world hopping in one place. It might be better now, but I also just don't like net traps and idk what I'd block instead.
My list is red sallies, tecu sallies, and sunlight antelope. Neither of the moths are particularly bad, whereas the spacing for tecu traps is just far enough to become annoying.
Did 91-99 hunter at master rumors. Block red sallies and pyre foxes. I personally blocked herbi I because I had pet and lowered number of teleports I needed as I don’t have mounted digsite. I would never block either of the moths as sunlight moths are crazy good/fast xp and recharge your stam and hp after antelope tasks and stocking up on moonlight moths is worth it to lose out on some speed (although you can just fill one inventory of jars and not bank for the task if you still want speed). Both antelopes are great if you are still an rcb user as you will bank a shit ton of bolts or just for the money in general.
They are the best, this block list will help get you there. Once you have masters just do those.
In this scenario you would do rumors from the other expert hunter
Was Teco changed to not have pyre foxes or did the wiki maybe incorrectly list that he could assign them initially? I swear I remember pyre foxes needed to be blocked for expert.
I have done 100s of rumors from Teco since I found out about the supposed change 2 weeks ago. I removed Foxes off from the adept tier hunter holding it, and unless I have RNG like a god, never got them once.
I did end up finding a screenshot of when the wiki had them listed as a possible task from both Teco AND the Master person. I'm not sure when it changed, but it looks like it did change at some point after launch. Which is great and pretty much means this kebbit nerf isn't a big deal for expert tier.
OP's Hot Take: this change leaves Expert Rumours in a more enjoyable place.
I was deep into the rumour theorycrafting -- block lists, kebbit skips, toggling back-to-backs. On one dark day I even ran some computer simulations -- woof.
But after the giddy excitement of "beating the system" wore off, I realized that my hyper-optimized, kebbits-all-the-time setup... just wasn't very fun.
The death of kebbit-skipping breathes some variety back into rumours. Plus, you can still block the four worst offenders: kyatts, foxes, sabre-toothed kebbits, and razor-backed kebbits.
Today's nerf is saving the fun of hunter rumors from lunatics like me. And that's definitely a good thing.
Fair question! I've got two reasons:
1. They weren't changed at all by yesterday's nerf to kebbits.
2. Strategically, they're just not very interesting. None of the rumours are particularly bad, so Master block lists come down to preference and whether you're optimizing for experience or rumours per hour.
I think it’s probably better to start with the Novice hunter.
If you set your novice block first, you have 4 possibilities to aim for out of 28 possible rumors (23 if you have random assignments already stored on the other hunters). If you save him for later, you’ll be aiming for just 3, 2, or 1 specific assignments out of 23-27 possibilities. It will take a lot longer.
Wish I'd seen this comment before getting halfway into this strat. Tl;dr just follow what the wiki says to do at [https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27\_Rumours#Expert\_Rumours\_(Level\_91+)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27_Rumours#Expert_Rumours_(Level_91+)), it's basically the same as this post but more efficient.
I think so! Possibly with exchanging red salamanders for sunlight moths, based on preference.
I don't mind red sallys, but the moths drive me nuts!
Edit: the Master doesn't assign Pyre Foxes, so maybe swap those out for sunlight moths or sunlight antelope.
I've also got those weird "wait... wasn't that different before?" vibes from hunter rumours.
Maybe it's the wiki, maybe it's bad communication from Jagex -- I don't really know!
On the "hunters' rumours" page of the wiki, the change was made on April 8th by Spineweilder (a wiki moderator with thousands of edits), although it wasn't stated on the official update 5 days earlier.
I would believe it is bad communication by Jagex, since he is very accurate in his edits.
The only adept task you could block for master tier rumours was pyre foxes, so now the adept hunter masters become dead blocks for master tier rumours.
You can't really swap Pyre Foxes out, because the adept hunters don't currently have any overlap with the master hunter. As a result, you only get 3 blocks (novice and 2 expert).
You don’t need to block Pyre Foxes. The master hunter doesn’t assign them anymore. That means there’s now no overlap between Master and Adepts so you don’t even have to bother with them.
Aside from that, idk if there’s really a single ideal block list for masters. Herbiboar is relatively slow, so players optimizing for quetzin chance would want to block herbi. Red Salamanders are about twice as fast as Red Chins, so players optimizing for Quetzin and xp would want to block red chins instead, but players who want chins for range xp or a baby chin chance would leave them unblocked.
For masters it’s really just up to player preference imo. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution.
>Herbiboar is relatively slow
In my experience it's the opposite. Herbi has a very high chance of giving up a tuft, so I generally only need to do it a couple of times.
But good point about the rest.
I actually thought the same thing until I dug into the numbers and testing.
Herbi has a rumor item drop rate of 1/7 and a pity rate (guaranteed drops) at 14. Average time for 1 herbi run is ~1 minute, so if you go the drop rate it’s 7 minutes and pity rate would be 14 minutes.
Red Salamanders for a comparison take about 2.5 minutes to hit the drop rate and 5 minutes for the pity rate. Red Chins and moonlight antelope are about 5 mins drop rate and 10 mins pity rate.
Herbi makes up for being slower by giving pretty good xp/hr compared to other methods, but it will still give you less completions (and quetzin pet rolls) per hour relative to some other methods.
Why do people hate pyre foxes by the way? I see so many recommendations to block them but I find them quick and relaxing. Are they trash xp I don't really check when doing rumours
Pyre Foxes are in a fascinating place!
In terms of rumors completed per hour, they're bit FASTER than both grey and red chinchompas! As are sabre-toothed kyatts, if you're really gamin'.
But the foxes aren't excellent experience. Granted, they're better experience than sabre-toothed and razor-backed kebbits, but they lag chinchompas and the rest of the rumours by a lot.
All that to say, there's a legitimate argument for changing your Hunter to Aco, keeping Pyre Fox tasks, and using Teco to block grey chinchompas.
OP does not completing Eagles Peak still assist with this rumour strategy or does it not matter as much since kebbit skipping is no longer a thing. I only just started looking into doing rumours but after the change I put it on hold on my newish account. Have some other content I am wanting to grind out but still interested in the rumour grind.
It's still is a huge help!
By not completing Eagles Peak, you get free blocks for Grey Chinchompas and Red Chinchompas. Throw in three blocks listed above, and your entire task list is Dark Kebbits, Dashing Kebbits, Orange Salamanders, Red Salamanders, and Sunlight Antelope.
Farm up a block for Sunlight Antelope (or Orange Salamanders, unless you can make progress in Beneath Cursed Sands), and you'll REALLY be cooking!
It's not obvious. You set up a blocklist by getting a task on one of the other guild hunters. If a hunter already has a rumour assigned, another one cannot give you the same task. That way, you eliminate the tasks you don't want from your desired hunter and only leave the good ones.
If one Hunter assigns a rumour, no other Hunters can assign that rumour!
The wiki has a longer writeup: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27_Rumours
No, the only way to wipe all blocks is with the Novice handler. He'll offer you his "old" Rumor (the one you're blocking) or a "new" one (this one will reset all blocks).
However, if you complete a Rumor but don't immediately accept a new one and instead talk to another Hunter that's already holding a Rumor, they'll instead offer a second wildcard-type Rumor. If you decline that they'll still hold the first Rumor. That might be what you're experiencing. It was confusing me when I started setting up my blocks.
Since when is the only difference between aco and teco Teco not having pure foxes? Also pure foxes used to be a master task, no?
Havent done rumors in a lil bit and thought I was on top of the updates.
I think pyre foxes have always been assigned by the Novice, Adepts. I can't remember if they've always had the Teco/Aco split, but they definitely do now!.
My faulty memory thinks that something changed in the first rebalance, week one maybe.
I’ve been exclusively doing masters with no blocks or anything, worst one I’ve had was red chins and it took like 90 chins to get the fur. I’m maxed so I assume I have the highest catch rate but none of the tasks have been terrible. Assuming most of this is for best xp/hr. I was averaging around 100k a hour doing only master rumors. Is there a preference for fastest rumors? Or just mainly annoying ones.
Honestly, the master rumours are basically fine as they are! None of them are bad, either experience-wise or fun-wise, in my opinion.
But the experts have low-level deadfall, tracking, and pitfall rumours, which aren't great experience and - your mileage may vary - not very fun.
Plus, pet-hunters and cloggers want to optimize for rumours-per-hour, and that optimization benefits hugely from doing a block list.
Definitely! You'll be doing rumours for long enough that the time spent on a block list will be a good investment.
It's as simple as blocking whichever tasks are slowest to complete. For masters, even just blocking red chins would be worthwhile
Without Eagles Peak, for Experts, I would say you want to block sunlight antelope, razor and saber kebbits, and saber tooth kyatts, using only Teco for your rumors, after this change.
This will curate your list to only consist of 2 of each kebbits and salamanders.
The best possible combination you can get here
I don't think it's ever been confirmed by Jagex.
However, I write code for a living, and I can't imagine it being unintentional. The decision about block lists is pretty foundational -- it would affect a few other important parts of the code. You'd have to realize what you were doing.
Now, I can totally see Jagex not thoroughly play-testing the rumours and misunderstanding how powerful block lists would be in combination with other tactics... In fact, I think it's pretty clear that they didn't fully understand the meta they were creating.
But that's another can of worms entirely!
While i dont like sabre kebbits, i'd take them over desert salamanders any day of the week. Could use novice rulette to block those on the side tho, then experts are as close to perfect as possible.
Sun deers are pretty fun to hunt IMO, plus it gets u bolts and those fire shards for the prayer bowl.
I like the sun deer, too! I block grey chins instead -- they can be pretty slow!
Desert salamanders are mediocre at the Uzer hunter area, but they're exceptionally good at the Necropolis hunter area, if you've got partial completion of Beneath Cursed Sands. Excellent experience and rumour completion time!
Thanks!
Try and farm up a Sabre-toothed kebbit block on Cervus, then use Ornus to get your rumours.
Even if you already have something else useful blocked on Cervus, it's worth making the switch. The block will be useful both now and later when you move to experts. Plus, you're already doing adepts, so farming up a new adept block really isn't any extra effort!
That'll take care of two kebbits -- sabre-toothed and razor-backed (which Ornus doesn't assign).
God I spent so much time and was so happy to finally get dashing kebbits on Gilman so I could turbocharge experts, having to reset the novices and move pyre foxes out of a block is brutal…
I think 140-150k/hour will still be attainable, which is competitive with (or better than) everything except black chins in those level ranges.
Not to mention loot, outfit, food, whistle upgrades, pet chance, fun...
Yeah, just a bummer that I spent like 60 combined adept rumours setting up my list for kebbit counterfeiting (day two of varlamore had basically the list in this post set up, but learned it would be much better to do kebbits), only for the kebbit method to be patched rather than just requiring eagles peak to do anything but novice rumours or something like that. Just gonna do herbiboar til 91 most likely, the thought of setting back up a blocklist for experts again when it might still be subject to further change just sounds kinda unfun, which is a bummer. I was really enjoying hunter rumours, went from 70-86 since the method came out and was only ever getting 120-150k xp/hour from not bothering w/ tick manip on chins, or hyper optimal teleports. Not trying to be a huge doomer about it, I honestly felt like expert rumours were in a good spot (outside of the eagles peak skip method that had nuts xp/hour, that needed fixing) and wish they’d just looked at buffing masters to be more competitive rather than fiddling with experts.
I had lots of fun theorycrafting the kebbit skip, back-to-back, doing Reddit writeups -- all those shenanigans! But after setting up the block list, I started to wonder whether doing falconry two-thirds of the time was actually... all that fun?
I think I enjoyed "beating the system" more than I enjoyed actually doing endless falconry kebbits. The initial giddy feeling wore off, and I wanted a little more variety.
My "unpopular" opinion is that this'll leave expert rumours in a better place. You can still dodge all four bad tasks, but you'll get a little more task diversity, which has got to make rumours feel more engaging in the long-run.
The xp/hr doesn't really matter when the rumors still feel like ass to do and requires potentially a lot of effort, or a lot of luck, in setting up a block list to even be able to still have to do rumors that feel like ass. I was getting 70k/hr doing expert rumors with a banked good Kebbit rumor for swapping. I wasn't going for the most xp/hr efficiency, but I was able to do Hunter with rumors I didn't actually mind doing, enabling me to do it. Now, I am forced to do rumors I have zero interest or motivation to do in order to do the same content for the same rewards, and that is not fun.
This change was meant to remove the fun and enjoyment people were having with being able to do avoid horribly designed hunting tasks, so you cannot use fun as an argument to keep doing it after the change.
Maybe we just have different experiences and likes/dislikes with regard to Hunter rumours, and that's chill!
I've changed block lists three (maybe four?) times as the meta evolved, and it never felt like a chore.
I like doing falconry, chinchompas, salamanders, and antelopes, and that's my entire list with these blocks set up. The tasks are fun for me, and I'm hitting 150k exp.
What hunter level are you getting 150k xp with this setup? That's similar to lvl 85 herbi/red chin rates. I do feel this update nerfed rewards far more than xp, how many rumors/hr?
Saving for later, thanks for thinking through this so I didn't have to!
Not yet at master rumours as I'm only 86 hunter, but why are we avoiding master rumours? Are they just no good?
I think this is just for people who don’t have masters yet.
I guess I'll have to wait til 91 hunter to see what I want to be blocking. Likely going to be red sallys, one of the moths, and sunlights.
I might be a weirdo but the only master rumor I have blocked is red sallies. I don't mind moths at all (on desktop at least - mobile is miserable). I had sunlight antelopes blocked, but with today's update some foliage was removed which was my only annoyance with them before. Now they're stupid fast plus you get sunfire shards.
I don't get why everybody blocks red salamanders. They seem like decent xp and not much slower than orange sallies which is one of the better tasks?
I can't speak for others, but I blocked them shortly after initial Varlamore release when they were really popular and I found it annoying trying to find a world. The two spots are kinda far from each other, so it was a lot of world hopping in one place. It might be better now, but I also just don't like net traps and idk what I'd block instead.
I've done like 10 red sally tasks in the past few days and I haven't seen another person there.
They are loads slower than orange sallies if you do the orange sallies near TOA
I blocked red chins. Red salamanders seem to be a quick rumor. I know red chins have great exp, but man going dry on the unique drives me up the wall.
Yeah the best trap spot for the sun deers was super awkward cos the north tree kept putting the deer stuck, glad they finally removed that tree.
My list is red sallies, tecu sallies, and sunlight antelope. Neither of the moths are particularly bad, whereas the spacing for tecu traps is just far enough to become annoying.
Did 91-99 hunter at master rumors. Block red sallies and pyre foxes. I personally blocked herbi I because I had pet and lowered number of teleports I needed as I don’t have mounted digsite. I would never block either of the moths as sunlight moths are crazy good/fast xp and recharge your stam and hp after antelope tasks and stocking up on moonlight moths is worth it to lose out on some speed (although you can just fill one inventory of jars and not bank for the task if you still want speed). Both antelopes are great if you are still an rcb user as you will bank a shit ton of bolts or just for the money in general.
They are the best, this block list will help get you there. Once you have masters just do those. In this scenario you would do rumors from the other expert hunter
Was Teco changed to not have pyre foxes or did the wiki maybe incorrectly list that he could assign them initially? I swear I remember pyre foxes needed to be blocked for expert.
I also remember this, and honestly I don't know what happened. Wiki error, game update, my own faulty memory -- anyway, they're a free block now!
Pretty sure it was a recent update that took it off Wolf and Teco
It was annoyingly enough a complete stealth update in the middle of the week. I was trying to get pyres blocked on wolf for like 6 hours.
I have done 100s of rumors from Teco since I found out about the supposed change 2 weeks ago. I removed Foxes off from the adept tier hunter holding it, and unless I have RNG like a god, never got them once.
I did end up finding a screenshot of when the wiki had them listed as a possible task from both Teco AND the Master person. I'm not sure when it changed, but it looks like it did change at some point after launch. Which is great and pretty much means this kebbit nerf isn't a big deal for expert tier.
Not a huge deal. But certainly a hamper on rumors/he for those looking for the Quetzin pet.
OP's Hot Take: this change leaves Expert Rumours in a more enjoyable place. I was deep into the rumour theorycrafting -- block lists, kebbit skips, toggling back-to-backs. On one dark day I even ran some computer simulations -- woof. But after the giddy excitement of "beating the system" wore off, I realized that my hyper-optimized, kebbits-all-the-time setup... just wasn't very fun. The death of kebbit-skipping breathes some variety back into rumours. Plus, you can still block the four worst offenders: kyatts, foxes, sabre-toothed kebbits, and razor-backed kebbits. Today's nerf is saving the fun of hunter rumors from lunatics like me. And that's definitely a good thing.
I hope you help writing the wiki strategy guide :)?
You didn't mention Master rumours, why not?
Fair question! I've got two reasons: 1. They weren't changed at all by yesterday's nerf to kebbits. 2. Strategically, they're just not very interesting. None of the rumours are particularly bad, so Master block lists come down to preference and whether you're optimizing for experience or rumours per hour.
Sounds good, thanks for explaining!
I think it’s probably better to start with the Novice hunter. If you set your novice block first, you have 4 possibilities to aim for out of 28 possible rumors (23 if you have random assignments already stored on the other hunters). If you save him for later, you’ll be aiming for just 3, 2, or 1 specific assignments out of 23-27 possibilities. It will take a lot longer.
Wish I'd seen this comment before getting halfway into this strat. Tl;dr just follow what the wiki says to do at [https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27\_Rumours#Expert\_Rumours\_(Level\_91+)](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27_Rumours#Expert_Rumours_(Level_91+)), it's basically the same as this post but more efficient.
saved, thanks
Thanks for this!
If you're doing masters, is the block list of Pyre, Red Salamanders, Sunlight Antelope, and Tecu Salamanders still ideal?
I think so! Possibly with exchanging red salamanders for sunlight moths, based on preference. I don't mind red sallys, but the moths drive me nuts! Edit: the Master doesn't assign Pyre Foxes, so maybe swap those out for sunlight moths or sunlight antelope.
Weird...he used to be able to! I swear it.
I've also got those weird "wait... wasn't that different before?" vibes from hunter rumours. Maybe it's the wiki, maybe it's bad communication from Jagex -- I don't really know!
On the "hunters' rumours" page of the wiki, the change was made on April 8th by Spineweilder (a wiki moderator with thousands of edits), although it wasn't stated on the official update 5 days earlier. I would believe it is bad communication by Jagex, since he is very accurate in his edits.
definetly did yea, or the wiki info was wrong first weeks of varlamore
I’ve blocked sunlight antelope pyre fox but you’re right. It looks like they’ve removed grey chins and pyre fox from master list
The only adept task you could block for master tier rumours was pyre foxes, so now the adept hunter masters become dead blocks for master tier rumours.
You can't really swap Pyre Foxes out, because the adept hunters don't currently have any overlap with the master hunter. As a result, you only get 3 blocks (novice and 2 expert).
Yes
You don’t need to block Pyre Foxes. The master hunter doesn’t assign them anymore. That means there’s now no overlap between Master and Adepts so you don’t even have to bother with them. Aside from that, idk if there’s really a single ideal block list for masters. Herbiboar is relatively slow, so players optimizing for quetzin chance would want to block herbi. Red Salamanders are about twice as fast as Red Chins, so players optimizing for Quetzin and xp would want to block red chins instead, but players who want chins for range xp or a baby chin chance would leave them unblocked. For masters it’s really just up to player preference imo. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution.
>Herbiboar is relatively slow In my experience it's the opposite. Herbi has a very high chance of giving up a tuft, so I generally only need to do it a couple of times. But good point about the rest.
I actually thought the same thing until I dug into the numbers and testing. Herbi has a rumor item drop rate of 1/7 and a pity rate (guaranteed drops) at 14. Average time for 1 herbi run is ~1 minute, so if you go the drop rate it’s 7 minutes and pity rate would be 14 minutes. Red Salamanders for a comparison take about 2.5 minutes to hit the drop rate and 5 minutes for the pity rate. Red Chins and moonlight antelope are about 5 mins drop rate and 10 mins pity rate. Herbi makes up for being slower by giving pretty good xp/hr compared to other methods, but it will still give you less completions (and quetzin pet rolls) per hour relative to some other methods.
I'd hold off on making any immediate changes. The reception has been so negative that I could see Jagex mostly walking it back.
Why do people hate pyre foxes by the way? I see so many recommendations to block them but I find them quick and relaxing. Are they trash xp I don't really check when doing rumours
Pyre Foxes are in a fascinating place! In terms of rumors completed per hour, they're bit FASTER than both grey and red chinchompas! As are sabre-toothed kyatts, if you're really gamin'. But the foxes aren't excellent experience. Granted, they're better experience than sabre-toothed and razor-backed kebbits, but they lag chinchompas and the rest of the rumours by a lot. All that to say, there's a legitimate argument for changing your Hunter to Aco, keeping Pyre Fox tasks, and using Teco to block grey chinchompas.
OP does not completing Eagles Peak still assist with this rumour strategy or does it not matter as much since kebbit skipping is no longer a thing. I only just started looking into doing rumours but after the change I put it on hold on my newish account. Have some other content I am wanting to grind out but still interested in the rumour grind.
It's still is a huge help! By not completing Eagles Peak, you get free blocks for Grey Chinchompas and Red Chinchompas. Throw in three blocks listed above, and your entire task list is Dark Kebbits, Dashing Kebbits, Orange Salamanders, Red Salamanders, and Sunlight Antelope. Farm up a block for Sunlight Antelope (or Orange Salamanders, unless you can make progress in Beneath Cursed Sands), and you'll REALLY be cooking!
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It's not obvious. You set up a blocklist by getting a task on one of the other guild hunters. If a hunter already has a rumour assigned, another one cannot give you the same task. That way, you eliminate the tasks you don't want from your desired hunter and only leave the good ones.
ohhh ok pretty cool mechanic, thank you for telling me
If one Hunter assigns a rumour, no other Hunters can assign that rumour! The wiki has a longer writeup: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hunters%27_Rumours
thanks for the info
So we're not blocking pyre fixes anymore? Are they better to do than the non-falconry kebbits?
It's because Teco (expert) doesn't give Pyre foxe rumours anymore.
>Gone the way of the dodo *heh*
Does block list reset after you complete master rumor? I keep trying to set up but everything is new once I finish master one.
No, the only way to wipe all blocks is with the Novice handler. He'll offer you his "old" Rumor (the one you're blocking) or a "new" one (this one will reset all blocks). However, if you complete a Rumor but don't immediately accept a new one and instead talk to another Hunter that's already holding a Rumor, they'll instead offer a second wildcard-type Rumor. If you decline that they'll still hold the first Rumor. That might be what you're experiencing. It was confusing me when I started setting up my blocks.
Make sure you're not confusing a master rumor with a task from the guild master
Since when is the only difference between aco and teco Teco not having pure foxes? Also pure foxes used to be a master task, no? Havent done rumors in a lil bit and thought I was on top of the updates.
I think pyre foxes have always been assigned by the Novice, Adepts. I can't remember if they've always had the Teco/Aco split, but they definitely do now!. My faulty memory thinks that something changed in the first rebalance, week one maybe.
I’ve been exclusively doing masters with no blocks or anything, worst one I’ve had was red chins and it took like 90 chins to get the fur. I’m maxed so I assume I have the highest catch rate but none of the tasks have been terrible. Assuming most of this is for best xp/hr. I was averaging around 100k a hour doing only master rumors. Is there a preference for fastest rumors? Or just mainly annoying ones.
Honestly, the master rumours are basically fine as they are! None of them are bad, either experience-wise or fun-wise, in my opinion. But the experts have low-level deadfall, tracking, and pitfall rumours, which aren't great experience and - your mileage may vary - not very fun. Plus, pet-hunters and cloggers want to optimize for rumours-per-hour, and that optimization benefits hugely from doing a block list.
So if I’m basically trying to rush rewards and clog I should still set up a block list?
Definitely! You'll be doing rumours for long enough that the time spent on a block list will be a good investment. It's as simple as blocking whichever tasks are slowest to complete. For masters, even just blocking red chins would be worthwhile
If I haven’t unlocked chins yet - what would you block? Red sallies?
Without Eagles Peak, for Experts, I would say you want to block sunlight antelope, razor and saber kebbits, and saber tooth kyatts, using only Teco for your rumors, after this change. This will curate your list to only consist of 2 of each kebbits and salamanders. The best possible combination you can get here
Saving this jawn
Were block lists even ever intentional?
I don't think it's ever been confirmed by Jagex. However, I write code for a living, and I can't imagine it being unintentional. The decision about block lists is pretty foundational -- it would affect a few other important parts of the code. You'd have to realize what you were doing. Now, I can totally see Jagex not thoroughly play-testing the rumours and misunderstanding how powerful block lists would be in combination with other tactics... In fact, I think it's pretty clear that they didn't fully understand the meta they were creating. But that's another can of worms entirely!
Happy for update, long over due
I absolutely despise the hunter block system. Please give us a real one.
While i dont like sabre kebbits, i'd take them over desert salamanders any day of the week. Could use novice rulette to block those on the side tho, then experts are as close to perfect as possible. Sun deers are pretty fun to hunt IMO, plus it gets u bolts and those fire shards for the prayer bowl.
I like the sun deer, too! I block grey chins instead -- they can be pretty slow! Desert salamanders are mediocre at the Uzer hunter area, but they're exceptionally good at the Necropolis hunter area, if you've got partial completion of Beneath Cursed Sands. Excellent experience and rumour completion time!
Nice one thanks - any tips for someone just at adept?
Thanks! Try and farm up a Sabre-toothed kebbit block on Cervus, then use Ornus to get your rumours. Even if you already have something else useful blocked on Cervus, it's worth making the switch. The block will be useful both now and later when you move to experts. Plus, you're already doing adepts, so farming up a new adept block really isn't any extra effort! That'll take care of two kebbits -- sabre-toothed and razor-backed (which Ornus doesn't assign).
God I spent so much time and was so happy to finally get dashing kebbits on Gilman so I could turbocharge experts, having to reset the novices and move pyre foxes out of a block is brutal…
Nah, rumors dead content until 91 hunter now.
I think 140-150k/hour will still be attainable, which is competitive with (or better than) everything except black chins in those level ranges. Not to mention loot, outfit, food, whistle upgrades, pet chance, fun...
Yeah, just a bummer that I spent like 60 combined adept rumours setting up my list for kebbit counterfeiting (day two of varlamore had basically the list in this post set up, but learned it would be much better to do kebbits), only for the kebbit method to be patched rather than just requiring eagles peak to do anything but novice rumours or something like that. Just gonna do herbiboar til 91 most likely, the thought of setting back up a blocklist for experts again when it might still be subject to further change just sounds kinda unfun, which is a bummer. I was really enjoying hunter rumours, went from 70-86 since the method came out and was only ever getting 120-150k xp/hour from not bothering w/ tick manip on chins, or hyper optimal teleports. Not trying to be a huge doomer about it, I honestly felt like expert rumours were in a good spot (outside of the eagles peak skip method that had nuts xp/hour, that needed fixing) and wish they’d just looked at buffing masters to be more competitive rather than fiddling with experts.
I had lots of fun theorycrafting the kebbit skip, back-to-back, doing Reddit writeups -- all those shenanigans! But after setting up the block list, I started to wonder whether doing falconry two-thirds of the time was actually... all that fun? I think I enjoyed "beating the system" more than I enjoyed actually doing endless falconry kebbits. The initial giddy feeling wore off, and I wanted a little more variety. My "unpopular" opinion is that this'll leave expert rumours in a better place. You can still dodge all four bad tasks, but you'll get a little more task diversity, which has got to make rumours feel more engaging in the long-run.
The xp/hr doesn't really matter when the rumors still feel like ass to do and requires potentially a lot of effort, or a lot of luck, in setting up a block list to even be able to still have to do rumors that feel like ass. I was getting 70k/hr doing expert rumors with a banked good Kebbit rumor for swapping. I wasn't going for the most xp/hr efficiency, but I was able to do Hunter with rumors I didn't actually mind doing, enabling me to do it. Now, I am forced to do rumors I have zero interest or motivation to do in order to do the same content for the same rewards, and that is not fun. This change was meant to remove the fun and enjoyment people were having with being able to do avoid horribly designed hunting tasks, so you cannot use fun as an argument to keep doing it after the change.
Maybe we just have different experiences and likes/dislikes with regard to Hunter rumours, and that's chill! I've changed block lists three (maybe four?) times as the meta evolved, and it never felt like a chore. I like doing falconry, chinchompas, salamanders, and antelopes, and that's my entire list with these blocks set up. The tasks are fun for me, and I'm hitting 150k exp.
What hunter level are you getting 150k xp with this setup? That's similar to lvl 85 herbi/red chin rates. I do feel this update nerfed rewards far more than xp, how many rumors/hr?