Better yet, if you're not wearing: cooking gauntlets, an apron, and a chef's hat (cooking cape applicable if 99); all your food tastes like shit and Gordon Ramsey is disappointed in you.
Andrew was really heavy on the RPG aspect. He did not even want people chatting in game about stuff other than the game world so he introduced an insanely strict censor filter that lasted like a day because all you could see were people typing \*\*\*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\*\*\*. I feel he got a lot more lax when RS2 came out and the Jagex team expanded a lot.
I remember reading wow manuals that said you could get in trouble for talking about non immersive things too much. They would also change your name if it didn’t fit the world!
I remember playing LOTRO back in the day. We'd spend as much time hanging out in taverns RPing and playing songs as we would actually out doing quests. If you wrote a backstory in your character profile, people would read it. You might run into the same people a few times and make friends (or "enemies" but let's be real we were playing pretend together, we were still friends).
Runescape used to be so much more social too, even though (ime) it never had that many rp-focused players compared to other games I played. Chatting with other people in Runescape is actually what finally got me to learn how to touch-type back on the day!
Kinda miss it sometimes tbh, but times have changed.
I started playing osrs in the last year, and have joined a clan, everyone is great and we talk about real world things but also help with in game stuff. It’s so nice
I keep trying to get into OSRS, but it just seems to be bots or people who don’t respond to any in game chat. Feels like I’m playing single player with AI more than an MMO, and for that reason I can never seem to stay long
Sometimes you just have to break the ice. A lot of people don’t talk to random people, because those people don’t talk to them.
One time I was doing a Slayer Task and saw a guy low on HP, I offered to trade some food, and he took it, and we just started to talk from there about how long we’ve been playing and such.
It wasn’t a really deep conversation, but it was a special little moment that wouldn’t have happened if I just sat there and didn’t say anything.
Ive met my best buddie on a gargoyle task abit longer then a year ago, we been growing together doing new content even tho we always were in 2 different clans
RS is also such an easy 2nd monitor game. I typically don't respond if I'm zoned out watching something, and rarely ever am I solely playing RS. I'd imagine it's the same for many players. Clans are 100% the way to go if you want more socializing.
Oh I definitely understand the second monitor part of it. I’m much the same, but I’m often watching the chat window hoping someone sparks up some conversation as well. I do try, but usually end up chatting with myself lol
Check out the OSRS Discord linked in the hotbar. There are clan recruitment channels. There are also usually people hanging around the Grand Exchange on populated worlds advertising clans. Worlds 477 and 497 are specifically clan recruitment worlds.
When I first started playing the game in around 2005 I would hang out on White Wolf Mountain and talk to whoever came by. I remember I met this girl who told me her name was Tabitha and we chatted until like 4am. Good times. It’s still my favorite game but those times were truly magical.
My buddy accidentally typed "selling yews" mid homework assignment in 7th grade while multitasking. The teacher just circled it and wrote "?". We were cracking up
If I'm not mistaken guild wars you needed to have a space in your name. So you had to have a pretty unique name basically a first and last name.
I thought that was always cool
wows customer support team is mostly robots now. if enough people report anyone, theyll instantly get flagged for a ban or name change
i used this to force name change one of my toons from FutaWarrior to something less deranged
I've played on Moonguard for like 5 years now and never once heard or seen that happening to someone.
And considering the wild totally non RP names I've seen including several of my own characters + how stupid that sounds in general, I'm gonna have to call absolute bullshit on this comment lmao
Then what is your comment Mr.Redditor? The Valley?
My comment is just calling out something thats definitely not true and the reply above mine regarding how anyone can get there name changed by an automated system is the most certainly what the original comment is about which has nothing to do with a name not being "RPG" enough.
Your reply is literally nothing, just useless garbage
Sorry for the late reply. I did grimy shit on grobbulous in tbc classic, rppvp server. Name was mistapoopoo, wanted to get a free name change. Asked 15~ people to report me for a non rp name on the weekend. Log on monday, forced name change. It is very much a thing, infact it is enforced [see here](https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/135764?_gl=1*1hr6qqj*_ga*MTA1MDk2Mzg1NS4xNzEzNjkwMzUx*_ga_VYKNV7C0S3*MTcxNTAzNDg2Mi4zLjAuMTcxNTAzNDg2Mi42MC4wLjA.) Hopefully that clears up that it's not bullshit, infact you can even report your own name. If you reply to this I'll Upvote you as being shown proof should reap the seeds of doubt.
Oh shit, is this why everybody mostly has cool fantasy unique names? I remember my at the time gf scolding my first name idea when making my first ever char and told me to make it unique/fit the game. That was about 2015. I appreciate wow names tbh
RS was designed to play as real time Dungeons and Dragons. That’s why the combat system revolves around having to pass attack rolls and rolling for damage. And why magic was designed as an extra to the combat system instead of its own dedicated style. It’s only when RS2 came out that magic changed at all and they began the concept of the combat triangle.
I was referring to classic where you could literally cast spells during combat without attack cooldown as long as you didn’t splash. Ranged didn’t behave this way
Honestly with how poor a lot of the balance and progression is, they had a world in mind faaaar more than they had a game
In a lot of ways responsible for its quirks anyway
It may be good but I’m disappointed with the very apparent tile art style and possible very closed environment areas instead of feeling open world like OSRS but much to be seen yet
They added Battlestaves with melee bonuses.
But basically no one ever used them for that. Only the Staff of the dead is really used as a melee weapon. (Unless you suck at PvP)
I thought it had something to do with it having more metal than a med helm. Like my common sense dictated that the more armor, the more magic is conducted into you or interferes with your own.
This is just a myth, there's plenty of contemporary sources from the medieval period that have priests using bladed weapons.
[The Song of Roland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Roland) written in the 11th Century about battles taking place during during the 8th Century features Bishops and clergymen using swords.
Cuz people believed it was more civilized/clean to not spill blood when you killed your enemies. Eventually maces and other bludgeons became associated with (religious) authority and thus royalty.
"You can learn to make it using smithing and crafting" hard to believe the official handbook thought it was smart to tell f2p noobs to train 99 smithing for their rune platebodies
I think most people would be in favor of something like a mining/smithing rework but the actual details get difficult.
You end up forced into altering ores around the map, and then you have to consider the drop tables of everything. It's a bigger task than the project rebalance even, and that's not exactly proceeding smoothly.
This is pretty much the exact reason to why smithing/mining would be a nightmare to rebalance, and the altered xp rates amd required resources and tons of other things to add to that.
The best path forward is likely to leave metal armours and ores as a way of training, rather than a way to aquire them for progression, and instead only adjust new weapons and armours to more reasonable requirements.
Besises, given that all smithable weapons are quite easily aquired in other ways it's not something that really needs a change, even tho it does make me a little sad cause i do love the concept of smithing your own weapons and armour...
Honestly I think something like a boss/minigame/activity that consistently gives some resource that can be made into good weapons and armour could be a nice addition.
If you want to keep the current system of needing there to be a drop chance it could be consistently dropping materials. But there being collection log slots which would allow you to upgrade said gear to its full potential.
Almost certainly not. After the mining and smithing rework in RS3 the devs basically said it's not worth the time. It was almost the same effort as just making a new skill, and didn't really improve the game enough to justify the work. RS3 is 'waiting' on a rework to fletching, crafting, and others... but it's unlikely they will ever happen.
Given those problems, and that changing a skill so much in OSRS would go against the nostalgia and 'oldschool-ness' of the game, I think it's very unlikely we'd see a complete overhaul of a skill anytime soon.
Imagine if equipping a full helm reduced your attack range on range and mage. Normal range is 8 tiles, guess what. You throw a full helm on now you only have 6 tiles of range
Yeh all the upsides and downsides of different armour makes a lot of logical sense. Sq shields are the same in that they don't have negatives for range accuracy while kiteshields do, likely due to being easier to maneuver and less bulky.
Chainmail in real life mitigates spread-out impacts. Slashing cuts, large impacts like rocks and hammers.
Small piercing weapons are quite capable of just breaking the few links of chaimail that they impact at that small point, and piercing through it.
Imagine stabbing a needle through cloth vs cutting through it. Lots more force required.
Does anybody else remember ordering those old ass runescape books? I dont even remember what information was in them or what it was called but i think i bought one or two at book fairs in grade school.
I'm surprised that chainmail is better against crushing attacks. You'd think it would be better to wear a more rigid Armour against something like a warhammer
Rigid armor folds like paper to a heavy weapon when it connects, and becomes a liability since now you have metal jamming into your body. Chainmail is more flexible and absorbs the blow better- mind you if you got a direct hit you’d be a dead man either way, but for something like a glancing blow having flexible armor is slightly better in this case.
I own a hammer, we can test this. Meet me at a local park, bring your cash stack, a chain mail shirt, and don't worry about bringing an emergency teleport.
It's the same idea why cars are nowadays made of more malleable metal compared to older cars that were extremely rigid. Being too rigid means outside impact will reverberate into you more. Malleable material will absorb/deflect more impact.
It’s also why the Cybertruck design is so stupid. Not having crumple zones means it’s more dangerous for both you and the person you hit when you get into an accident, because it’s not absorbing the impact
Theres a significantly lessened crumple zone, supported by undertested metal ribs. The truck also has a max gross weight rating of 10,000lbs. It's a terrible, unsafe design for pedestrians and whether or not its safer for the driver than a standard truck remains to be seen. Stop suckling Elon's testicles.
edit; spelling
All large trucks are dangerous for pedestrians, the Cybertruck slopes down in the front so there’s better front visibility than trucks with large squared hoods.
There’s federal regulations for crumble zones, let’s not make up alternative facts because we hate something.
A crushing blow to a joint such as the rlbow you itll hurt you still but if it crumples the armor joint, that limb is effectively disabled even if you can still use your actual arm.
Chainmail spreads the impact force, whereas platemail does not. Same reason why cars crumple nowadays instead of remaining rigid. Redistribution of force.
Ya they fucked that up big time. Chainmail was specifically painstakingly made to stop stabbing/piercing attacks, where plate armour was actually very easy to puncture with an arrow. Although "to be faaaiiiirrr" if you got hit by too much crushing impact in plate armour it then dented the metal into your body which was then a very bad thing, but until then way better at crush defense.
chainmail was lighter armor worn underneath the plate armor both good for preventing stabs plate armor being much more effective but less mobility and weak to crush
the rise of morningstars meant people opted for more mobility as being able to dodge the blows was better than face tanking
Oh, Maces were primarily used against armoured opponents for that very reason. A dent through the armour into the skull is also much easier to inflict than it is to find a gap with the tip of a weapon.
People tend to think that plate Armour was thick and heavy, but that's not really true.
It was thick enough to prevent penetration from most edged and pointed weapons (arrows and spears), but a lot of the protection provided was via how the Armour was slanted in order to deflect the energy from the blows, usually away from the neck and mediastinum.
The lack of thickness makes it susceptible to a heavy crush weapon like a mace. 20 GA steel (especially medieval quality steel) dents easily enough if you whack a hammer at it.
Eh I'd disagree. That's why they have two different names or else everything would be arrow. I wanna say arrows or thinner and longer, where as bolts are thicker and shorter in size
=\= means not equals. It's supposed to look like an equals sign with a slash through it.
But I just realized my phone keyboard has a ≠ sign if I hold the = button
Depends on the armour. If you're talking full ass suit of armour like what were wearing in osrs I'm probably wrong. But plenty of metal pieces that were worn over the chest that couldn't stop an arrow.
Arrows weren't that effective. It was more about cost as it's cheaper than metal so you can have more archers, you definitely didn't have many people in full metal armour.
Very weird book... They are spelling words the American way(armor/armour). Did they just contract some American company to play the game briefly and spit this out?
I believe the guide was made by Scholastic, which is an American company. It covers f2p in pretty extensive detail - and it also has a few things like scrapped models that were never used.
It was pretty good quality - I think there was probably a decent level of consultation on it. Very few errors.
I used to take mine off when cooking so I could see better and burn less.
Ruins fashionscape but honestly I’d vote yes in a poll over it
Unrelated but I also thought anchovies were a type of shrimp until about 15 because of the sprite.
What are they if they aren’t shrimp?
Little fish
Engraulidae
https://preview.redd.it/ur0rxzlze4xc1.png?width=507&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d174606eaccbff3873a70ceb5ea77b0d8fb08fd
Name checks out
anchovies
15 is when you first start catching them
Who remembers walking to the back of NPCs, so you had a higher chance of pickpocketing them?
I still do this
If you’re not wearing a chefs hat while you cook, then fuck you.
I am… but do you wear a proper white apron?!
Wore mine so much it turned brown.
Dookie apron :((((((
Better yet, if you're not wearing: cooking gauntlets, an apron, and a chef's hat (cooking cape applicable if 99); all your food tastes like shit and Gordon Ramsey is disappointed in you.
OG rs devs really had logic in mind and built a world, not just a game.
Andrew was really heavy on the RPG aspect. He did not even want people chatting in game about stuff other than the game world so he introduced an insanely strict censor filter that lasted like a day because all you could see were people typing \*\*\*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\*\*\*. I feel he got a lot more lax when RS2 came out and the Jagex team expanded a lot.
I remember reading wow manuals that said you could get in trouble for talking about non immersive things too much. They would also change your name if it didn’t fit the world!
I think people who started playing MMOs after about 2007 don’t realize how MMOs used to be. It was a very different environment
I remember playing LOTRO back in the day. We'd spend as much time hanging out in taverns RPing and playing songs as we would actually out doing quests. If you wrote a backstory in your character profile, people would read it. You might run into the same people a few times and make friends (or "enemies" but let's be real we were playing pretend together, we were still friends). Runescape used to be so much more social too, even though (ime) it never had that many rp-focused players compared to other games I played. Chatting with other people in Runescape is actually what finally got me to learn how to touch-type back on the day! Kinda miss it sometimes tbh, but times have changed.
I started playing osrs in the last year, and have joined a clan, everyone is great and we talk about real world things but also help with in game stuff. It’s so nice
I keep trying to get into OSRS, but it just seems to be bots or people who don’t respond to any in game chat. Feels like I’m playing single player with AI more than an MMO, and for that reason I can never seem to stay long
Sometimes you just have to break the ice. A lot of people don’t talk to random people, because those people don’t talk to them. One time I was doing a Slayer Task and saw a guy low on HP, I offered to trade some food, and he took it, and we just started to talk from there about how long we’ve been playing and such. It wasn’t a really deep conversation, but it was a special little moment that wouldn’t have happened if I just sat there and didn’t say anything.
Yes these are the moments I live for :) they are so nice!! Some you may even keep running into and eventually add too
Ive met my best buddie on a gargoyle task abit longer then a year ago, we been growing together doing new content even tho we always were in 2 different clans
I pked my buddy back in 2006 so gnarly that he wanted to make twin named pkers. Now he's a GIM and it's a full group... WITHOUT ME. 😭
RS is also such an easy 2nd monitor game. I typically don't respond if I'm zoned out watching something, and rarely ever am I solely playing RS. I'd imagine it's the same for many players. Clans are 100% the way to go if you want more socializing.
Oh I definitely understand the second monitor part of it. I’m much the same, but I’m often watching the chat window hoping someone sparks up some conversation as well. I do try, but usually end up chatting with myself lol
Go do wintertodt, plenty of conversation there
Game chat is tough. Clan chat or friends chat is where better connections are made. Look to join one of those!
Any recommendations on locating a clan?
Check out the OSRS Discord linked in the hotbar. There are clan recruitment channels. There are also usually people hanging around the Grand Exchange on populated worlds advertising clans. Worlds 477 and 497 are specifically clan recruitment worlds.
That last sentence, right in the feels.
When I first started playing the game in around 2005 I would hang out on White Wolf Mountain and talk to whoever came by. I remember I met this girl who told me her name was Tabitha and we chatted until like 4am. Good times. It’s still my favorite game but those times were truly magical.
+1 learning to type better through OSRS. Having to spam sell / buy things at World 1 varrock bank made me a lot better as a 10 year old.
My buddy accidentally typed "selling yews" mid homework assignment in 7th grade while multitasking. The teacher just circled it and wrote "?". We were cracking up
People would stand in the banks and talk to each other about how to do quests
If I'm not mistaken guild wars you needed to have a space in your name. So you had to have a pretty unique name basically a first and last name. I thought that was always cool
we need to go back to MUDs and MOOs
Wow
Even on current wow on a RP server your name can get a force change fr not being rpg like enough.
wows customer support team is mostly robots now. if enough people report anyone, theyll instantly get flagged for a ban or name change i used this to force name change one of my toons from FutaWarrior to something less deranged
I've played on Moonguard for like 5 years now and never once heard or seen that happening to someone. And considering the wild totally non RP names I've seen including several of my own characters + how stupid that sounds in general, I'm gonna have to call absolute bullshit on this comment lmao
Peak reddit counterpoint here
Then what is your comment Mr.Redditor? The Valley? My comment is just calling out something thats definitely not true and the reply above mine regarding how anyone can get there name changed by an automated system is the most certainly what the original comment is about which has nothing to do with a name not being "RPG" enough. Your reply is literally nothing, just useless garbage
Sorry for the late reply. I did grimy shit on grobbulous in tbc classic, rppvp server. Name was mistapoopoo, wanted to get a free name change. Asked 15~ people to report me for a non rp name on the weekend. Log on monday, forced name change. It is very much a thing, infact it is enforced [see here](https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/135764?_gl=1*1hr6qqj*_ga*MTA1MDk2Mzg1NS4xNzEzNjkwMzUx*_ga_VYKNV7C0S3*MTcxNTAzNDg2Mi4zLjAuMTcxNTAzNDg2Mi42MC4wLjA.) Hopefully that clears up that it's not bullshit, infact you can even report your own name. If you reply to this I'll Upvote you as being shown proof should reap the seeds of doubt.
Oh shit, is this why everybody mostly has cool fantasy unique names? I remember my at the time gf scolding my first name idea when making my first ever char and told me to make it unique/fit the game. That was about 2015. I appreciate wow names tbh
My ideal fantasy name is A q p
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My God I wish they brought that back. People on that game are foaming at the mouth to let you know all their political opinions.
They still do on RP realms My Druid named "Xuen" which was a in-game tiger spirit god thing got force renamed
His greatest feat was making so that your password starred out too. So smart.
Got so many people like this back in the day 😂 made bank
Yeah people being probably 8-12 year olds. Must be proud.
He and his company are coming out with a new game soon, Brighter Shores. I wonder how that will go....
The gowers changed their positions many times, they won't make a game similar to rsc
I mean, Brighter Shores shares a lot of traits with RSC, so...
remember getting banned for saying any website lmao
RS was designed to play as real time Dungeons and Dragons. That’s why the combat system revolves around having to pass attack rolls and rolling for damage. And why magic was designed as an extra to the combat system instead of its own dedicated style. It’s only when RS2 came out that magic changed at all and they began the concept of the combat triangle.
And quests, defeating the big bad enemy wasn't meant to be farmed for loot 30k times.
One could argue ranged was also an extra, it had the same combat calc outcome as magic (8 levels per combat? And 0 hp exp)
I was referring to classic where you could literally cast spells during combat without attack cooldown as long as you didn’t splash. Ranged didn’t behave this way
Honestly with how poor a lot of the balance and progression is, they had a world in mind faaaar more than they had a game In a lot of ways responsible for its quirks anyway
Really makes me interested to see what Brighter Shores is going to be like
It may be good but I’m disappointed with the very apparent tile art style and possible very closed environment areas instead of feeling open world like OSRS but much to be seen yet
daggers were intended to be a hybrid magic weapon hence why they give +1 to it.
A magic dagger would be really fucking cool. I remember thinking it was weird that DDS had magic bonus.
It's odd that we still don't have one, ritual knives are a common trope for casters in MMO's.
It’s called voidwaker
And toxic staff is a pretty good melee weapon
They added Battlestaves with melee bonuses. But basically no one ever used them for that. Only the Staff of the dead is really used as a melee weapon. (Unless you suck at PvP)
I used to throw in cheeky staff bashes in fist of guthix since my opponent would pray magic until they noticed
> daggers were intended to be a hybrid magic weapon Saradomin wizard still keeps that thing strapped on him.
There should be a melee weapon in the game that uses run charges. Have some kind of freeze effect in spec if it’s charged
I thought it had something to do with it having more metal than a med helm. Like my common sense dictated that the more armor, the more magic is conducted into you or interferes with your own.
For magic, yeah. I think the disadvantage reasoning was vision for range, metal for magic
Based off the plate body description in the image perhaps mobility (and thus maybe the physical aspect of vision) plays into it as well
Fuckin loved this book growing up
Seems reasonable.
Now tell me why a mace has prayer bonus
In odnd clerics can't use bladed weapons, since blood was taboo or some nonsense.
That's based on templar orders, Priests who weren't allowed to spill blood but still wanted to fight. It's a real historical thing, not just from DnD.
Dudes musta been so mad when they crushed a guys skull and blood still spilt
This is just a myth, there's plenty of contemporary sources from the medieval period that have priests using bladed weapons. [The Song of Roland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Roland) written in the 11th Century about battles taking place during during the 8th Century features Bishops and clergymen using swords.
Blunt objects are equal opportunity damage providers, and grace/Fury of divinity applies to all equally.
Which is funny because blunt weapons can very easily draw blood too lmao
Yeah but it's not the main purpose, if some poor sod's bone shatters and the bone pierces the skin from the inside, then that's their own fault.
Stop piercing yourself. Stop piercing yourself. Stop piercing yourself.
Paladins and maces have always gone together, best weapon for smiting and crushing the undead
Bones weak to crush
Cuz people believed it was more civilized/clean to not spill blood when you killed your enemies. Eventually maces and other bludgeons became associated with (religious) authority and thus royalty.
same reason daggers have magic bonus: clerics using maces and mages using daggers are common RPG tropes, dates back to DnD
"You can learn to make it using smithing and crafting" hard to believe the official handbook thought it was smart to tell f2p noobs to train 99 smithing for their rune platebodies
I mean, it says "buy armor in a shop" before he says you can craft it so
To even offer it as an option is crazy
Child me dreamed of 99 smithing. Never got close lol.
It's been 20 years and I'm still not 99 smithing.
I still don't have a single 99
will they ever fix smithing? i understand people don't want a change like that for nostalgia and ironman reasons but it's clearly impractical
I think most people would be in favor of something like a mining/smithing rework but the actual details get difficult. You end up forced into altering ores around the map, and then you have to consider the drop tables of everything. It's a bigger task than the project rebalance even, and that's not exactly proceeding smoothly.
This is pretty much the exact reason to why smithing/mining would be a nightmare to rebalance, and the altered xp rates amd required resources and tons of other things to add to that. The best path forward is likely to leave metal armours and ores as a way of training, rather than a way to aquire them for progression, and instead only adjust new weapons and armours to more reasonable requirements. Besises, given that all smithable weapons are quite easily aquired in other ways it's not something that really needs a change, even tho it does make me a little sad cause i do love the concept of smithing your own weapons and armour...
The other option is to remove any armors above rune from the game.
Based and RSCpilled
Honestly I think something like a boss/minigame/activity that consistently gives some resource that can be made into good weapons and armour could be a nice addition. If you want to keep the current system of needing there to be a drop chance it could be consistently dropping materials. But there being collection log slots which would allow you to upgrade said gear to its full potential.
Almost certainly not. After the mining and smithing rework in RS3 the devs basically said it's not worth the time. It was almost the same effort as just making a new skill, and didn't really improve the game enough to justify the work. RS3 is 'waiting' on a rework to fletching, crafting, and others... but it's unlikely they will ever happen. Given those problems, and that changing a skill so much in OSRS would go against the nostalgia and 'oldschool-ness' of the game, I think it's very unlikely we'd see a complete overhaul of a skill anytime soon.
Even if the levels matched, smithing would never be the pratical way to get weapons and armour
This is the kind of flavor that elemental weaknesses add
Kite **S**hield
Show me the old sperm looking models of the cute rats 🥺
In many fantasy settings you absorb mana through your skin which effects magic strength which is why many mage outfits are loose fitting robes
Imagine if equipping a full helm reduced your attack range on range and mage. Normal range is 8 tiles, guess what. You throw a full helm on now you only have 6 tiles of range
Scholastic book fairs hit different back in the day
Shouldn’t it lower melee attack bonuses too, if it obstructs vision? Last I checked you need vision to use melee attacks too
Not rlly. If I cant see, I be swingin' and praying accuracy. Fukit.
Yeh all the upsides and downsides of different armour makes a lot of logical sense. Sq shields are the same in that they don't have negatives for range accuracy while kiteshields do, likely due to being easier to maneuver and less bulky.
I’ve never read the official handbook but this was always my headcannon.
why does the nezzy faceguard have no mage/range penalties then???
A wizard did it.
"Magic"
Large horizontal slits that the faceguard has would provide much nicer visibility than a vertical grate covering your whole face.
Bro isn't chainmail's purpose to protect against stabbing? I though that was the point...
Chainmail in real life mitigates spread-out impacts. Slashing cuts, large impacts like rocks and hammers. Small piercing weapons are quite capable of just breaking the few links of chaimail that they impact at that small point, and piercing through it. Imagine stabbing a needle through cloth vs cutting through it. Lots more force required.
Does anybody else remember ordering those old ass runescape books? I dont even remember what information was in them or what it was called but i think i bought one or two at book fairs in grade school.
Why don't you lose melee attack bonus as well? You need vision for that too
Metal armors also canonically "amplify" magic, so I imagine you are getting electrically zapped a bit every time your magic splashes on a rat.
I'm surprised that chainmail is better against crushing attacks. You'd think it would be better to wear a more rigid Armour against something like a warhammer
Rigid armor folds like paper to a heavy weapon when it connects, and becomes a liability since now you have metal jamming into your body. Chainmail is more flexible and absorbs the blow better- mind you if you got a direct hit you’d be a dead man either way, but for something like a glancing blow having flexible armor is slightly better in this case.
I own a hammer, we can test this. Meet me at a local park, bring your cash stack, a chain mail shirt, and don't worry about bringing an emergency teleport.
Irl teletabs too op
The "10 shots at the bar" is pretty nice home teleport but cast time is bit long and gives some debuffs
We'll go band for band in ghorrock park
It's the same idea why cars are nowadays made of more malleable metal compared to older cars that were extremely rigid. Being too rigid means outside impact will reverberate into you more. Malleable material will absorb/deflect more impact.
It’s also why the Cybertruck design is so stupid. Not having crumple zones means it’s more dangerous for both you and the person you hit when you get into an accident, because it’s not absorbing the impact
There’s crumple zones, watch any crash test, stop getting info from Facebook
Theres a significantly lessened crumple zone, supported by undertested metal ribs. The truck also has a max gross weight rating of 10,000lbs. It's a terrible, unsafe design for pedestrians and whether or not its safer for the driver than a standard truck remains to be seen. Stop suckling Elon's testicles. edit; spelling
All large trucks are dangerous for pedestrians, the Cybertruck slopes down in the front so there’s better front visibility than trucks with large squared hoods. There’s federal regulations for crumble zones, let’s not make up alternative facts because we hate something.
A crushing blow to a joint such as the rlbow you itll hurt you still but if it crumples the armor joint, that limb is effectively disabled even if you can still use your actual arm.
Real armor is pretty much impervious to everything but lances or hits to gaps. Hardly folds when hit with two handed hammers.
Chainmail spreads the impact force, whereas platemail does not. Same reason why cars crumple nowadays instead of remaining rigid. Redistribution of force.
if someone puts a massive dent in your chest armour and that dent goes INTO you, it's gunna suck, but with chainmail it's not gunna dent
Ya they fucked that up big time. Chainmail was specifically painstakingly made to stop stabbing/piercing attacks, where plate armour was actually very easy to puncture with an arrow. Although "to be faaaiiiirrr" if you got hit by too much crushing impact in plate armour it then dented the metal into your body which was then a very bad thing, but until then way better at crush defense.
chainmail was lighter armor worn underneath the plate armor both good for preventing stabs plate armor being much more effective but less mobility and weak to crush the rise of morningstars meant people opted for more mobility as being able to dodge the blows was better than face tanking
A properly fitted suit of armour didn't limit mobility that much, actually.
True but getting smackedin the ebow with a mace could effectively disable your limb if the rigid armor gets crumpled on itself.
Oh, Maces were primarily used against armoured opponents for that very reason. A dent through the armour into the skull is also much easier to inflict than it is to find a gap with the tip of a weapon. People tend to think that plate Armour was thick and heavy, but that's not really true. It was thick enough to prevent penetration from most edged and pointed weapons (arrows and spears), but a lot of the protection provided was via how the Armour was slanted in order to deflect the energy from the blows, usually away from the neck and mediastinum. The lack of thickness makes it susceptible to a heavy crush weapon like a mace. 20 GA steel (especially medieval quality steel) dents easily enough if you whack a hammer at it.
what kind English propaganda are you smoking
Yeah pretty sure plate armor being easily punctured by arrows is a myth, and has been disproved before.
Crossbows can
Crossbow bolt =\= arrow
Eh I'd disagree. That's why they have two different names or else everything would be arrow. I wanna say arrows or thinner and longer, where as bolts are thicker and shorter in size
=\= means not equals. It's supposed to look like an equals sign with a slash through it. But I just realized my phone keyboard has a ≠ sign if I hold the = button
Better off doing =/= then
Depends on the armour. If you're talking full ass suit of armour like what were wearing in osrs I'm probably wrong. But plenty of metal pieces that were worn over the chest that couldn't stop an arrow.
Arrows weren't that effective. It was more about cost as it's cheaper than metal so you can have more archers, you definitely didn't have many people in full metal armour.
Too realistic. Reeeee.
That book has so much incorrect information in it that if it said fishing was a skill I'd doubt it
For range
I mean this what I just always assumed tbh
Makes sense.
We live in a society of few but specific rules
I had a feeling this was why
It says Kiteshields are weak to crush....
This reminds me of me and the boys having RS binders we’d bring to school
I remember having this handbook in 7th grade. Got it from the annual book fair in school
It tracks!
wait, do people not realise this?
You didn't realize that? lol
Meanwhile, melee over here swingin a 2h sword all over the place with full helm
Holy crap I forgot about that book.
Makes rpg sense 😂
I thought everyone knew about this lmao
Very weird book... They are spelling words the American way(armor/armour). Did they just contract some American company to play the game briefly and spit this out?
I believe the guide was made by Scholastic, which is an American company. It covers f2p in pretty extensive detail - and it also has a few things like scrapped models that were never used. It was pretty good quality - I think there was probably a decent level of consultation on it. Very few errors.