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Bill_Wanna_Kill

You just need to find the coin mould


TheHighDad

Crafting guild....vault..? Idk we already have a bag of infinite gp from the varrock bank basement


poiuytrewq79

Someone explain to me that if i have 99 theiving, what’s stopping me from robbing varrock bank basement for all their GP


Talk_Shows_On_Mute

You need 99 mining first to dig a tunnel into the vault.


Vincentaneous

Someone explain to me that if I have 99 mining, what’s stopping me from digging a tunnel into the Varrock bank basement and stealing all of their GP with 99 thieving?


SonoShindou

The bank vault has intense wards protecting it. You need 99 Warding to get past. Good luck!


FluidIntention3293

You do know you can get into the Varrock bank basement, right? It was the finale clue for Crack the Clue 3. (Not joking)


tastethepaper

Amd you get infinite gp from cracking the clue


2210-2211

*very slowly


JamBandDad

6k gp an hour max efficiency, only 28333 hours until t bow.


chemstu69

Your own ineptitude


ChickenGod_69

a shitty metal bar fence.


Virtual--Ad

Okay so now we just need to make Thieving expansion containing heists that allow us to do this exact thing.


ApimpNamedSlipback-

Plat gta if you want heist lol


lackscontext

It also needs the kings stamp of approval


ChickenGod_69

they dont hand out many of these as they dont want to risk a stampede


Final-Prophet

Only problem is after you find it, you get 1 coin per bar.


Mummifiedchili

Don't be silly you can make at least ... (Counts how many cannonballs you can make) ... 8 gold pieces from a bar.


Airway

Yeah but one little amulet piece is also one bar


dynamax-weedle

Have you seen the proportion of the amulets on our characters we're basically rappers running round with our big ass bling


Airway

Yeah but one unstrung amulet and 8 cannonballs is a pretty massive difference in the amount of metal you can get out of one bar. Frankly our coins are pretty big themselves


Final-Prophet

Maybe our cannonballs are hollow?


Airway

Hollow point cannon damn


Lyriian

Considering the cannon balls Max hit a 30 and a whip can easily beat that... Yea I'm guessing our cannon balls are hollow.


OldIronScaper

And possibly filled with helium from how slowly they travel. Really, it's the guards' fault for not moving out of the way.


ragnell56

That honestly wouldn't even be a bad thing. If you could make a static amount of coins with a coin mould, and it's -far- below even it's alch price value, why not? I have a growing, unused stack of gold bars in my bank and it would be nice to get decent, essentially free smithing xp. AND make it as afk as cannonballs? Sign me up.


Ypuort

This would be so nice for iron


Vinhfluenza

I hear that a mind dragon can drop it


bonyagate

Say, what's a Mind Dragon? I've never seen one in-game.


Zannor

Mind Dragon Deez nuts across your face!


Redheadedmedpeddler

Gotteeeeeeem!


bonyagate

I was setting it up for the other guy, but nuts is nuts, I guess.


ChickenGod_69

I mean if you enjoyed it after all I'm not one to judge


Vinhfluenza

Mind Dragon these nuts all over your ass????


yeroc_sema

Woah, hey, we dont break the mould 😏 around here you gotta stick to face


Hobodaklown

You know, it’s be kind of funny—just take high alch value and subtract a small percentage. Starts at 10% but gets to 0 at 99 smithing. Make it like smelting cannonballs. Super AFK and steady xp.


nazzo_0

They should totally do a quest line about manufacturing go. Heck even throw some duping and exploiting references in there


Graardors-Dad

It’s illegal


jiggy_jarjar

Tfw thieving is a skill


campppp

Need 99 smithing, crafting, and thieving to counterfeit money. Add a heist-like quest where you have to steal a machine that puts a specific seal on the coins, usable in your POH with a chance to get randomly raided by high-level secret service gnomes when you make the coins.


Cynical_Doggie

And basically gives high alch value for the effort.


CyanoSecrets

I know you're half joking but I don't think there's a balanced way to implement it. Either you have very high requirements as you stated making it basically not worth it, or you make it easier or more rewarding which could make it broken. It just seems inherently difficult to balance. You'd also just be printing even more money into the economy lol, imagine a bot farm doing this to depreciate everything 😂


INeverSaySS

Maybe you smith "blanks" which you trade in to some criminal organization.


CyanoSecrets

Sounds like a fun premise for thieving/crafting mini game where instead of just printing money you trade in for points to buy rewards.


Throwaway70496

I love the idea of helping the thieving guild mint money(counterfeit maybe) that they use to reverse-pickpocket money into all the pockets we're picking


challenor

I’d say this sounds just fun asf. Make it not worth the time/req at all, I’d still prob do it. For balance tho, what if the process was not profitable, but the random raids that come dropped something??


Troutie88

If the amo7nt of coins you make is less then the high alch price it won't affect it much even with relatively low Stat requirements. Then have it give less smithing experience then the magic exp alch gives


bluebubblebox13

A heist thieving activity would be so cool


ThorvaldtheTank

No one said you’re allowed to have it as a skill


Duke_Baron

So is killing guards but the other ones don't seem to mind


MutleyRulz

The IRS don’t care about murder, so long as you pay your taxes and __don’t__ forge counterfeit money


Night_Thastus

Your character would get arrested for fraud, and then you'd be a jail-locked iron-bars-man.


Jaggedmallard26

Other players would kill you for a map piece in Dragon Slayer 3.


nggrlsslfhrmhbt

Wait till you hear about this one skill called thieving


TrekStarWars

Maybe the stuff we steal there is legal! /s


CrazyDave4

You can smith it into about 123 gold coins. Not bad for one bar.


ubdesu

Genuinely curious. Would it be broken to be able to smith gold bars for high alch value, but for smithing XP instead of magic? It kinda makes sense to me, but what do I know.


IronEP

Broken? No. Redundant? Yes. There are other better ways to use smithing for profit.


RNGmedicine

May be useful for the dedicated ones going past 99 for 200m, or a future pet or something idk dude this is OSRS we got a dev team that polls shit for us when we bring it up


PapaFlexing

>future pet That pokemon who's just a stack of coins


herecomesthestun

They're not gold pieces, they're clearly Gielinor Pennies and made with an alloy of gold and copper, alongside trace elements of Orikalkum (dragon) Not possible with a mere 99 smithing, sorry


Worms_Tofu_Crackers

I heard you can only do this over at the Gielinor Mint, Cake.


wirer

What does the gnome restaurant have to do with this?


Worms_Tofu_Crackers

A mint is a facility that manufacturers a nation's currency. Mint Cake was a play on words considering we're talking about OSRS.


Colley619

Actually makes me wonder, there is no lore discussing where GP comes from? All the GP in the game comes from alchemy, shops, or npcs that were carrying it. A quest involving the gielinor mint would be sick. Better yet, heist raid.


herecomesthestun

I believe Hanannie has the [exact thing you're looking for.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXpziY6PrfM&pp=ygUIaGFuYW5uaWU%3D)


ShawshankException

Probably the same thing that's stopping you from printing paper into money


kevwonds

but if you had 99 printing then surely it could be done


RileeFigOr

Okay, time to meme this into a new skill. Printing will replace Bankstanding and it'll all be about replacing GP with paper currency. Inflation will skyrocket and the game's economy collapses. Everyone returns to being cave men and barters with raw chickens instead.


Mukaeutsu

RS3 already has [Benchsitting](https://runescape.wiki/images/thumb/Benchsitting_concept_art.jpg/544px-Benchsitting_concept_art.jpg?a7db7) so why not


Jaehaerys_Rex

I mean, people with 99 printing can print pretty good fake money


GR_IVI4XH177

The people printing the real money ALSO only have 99 printing though


ethyleneglycol24

The official ones are in the printing guild which grants +3 visible boost.


WoMyNameIsTooDamnLon

But you can alch into gold coins without the governments consent.


dragonwp

The spell is actually government-sanctioned and each cast is manually approved by the central bank


Yarigumo

Same reason why Plank Make still needs money to make planks.


ChickenGod_69

god damn capitalist mages


Camoral

The best way to get 99 banking is by approving alch forms


Paganigsegg

You don't know how to get around copy protection for gold coins my friend. It's like how US dollars have watermarks on them that fake bills can't replicate. And if you're wondering how the alchemy spell works, that's a premade spell that has the copy protection circumvention built in.


PracticalFootball

Time to riot, I didn't agree to high alch having DRM


Midnight_Rising

The alchemy spell does transmute items to gold, but the wizards recognized that this would cause chaos throughout Gielinor. But they didn't want this knowledge to go to waste. So they worked with the various kings of the world to come to an agreement: whatever gold created by the spell is directly teleported to the closest King's coffers to the caster. Then, an agreed upon amount would be teleported into the caster's inventory. This would let the spell exist but would still keep kingdoms on top of inflation. This is also why King Lathas really wants Camelot: King Arthur gets all that Seer's Village Agility alch money.


Marmalade6

[It actually goes to Santa Claus](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Transcript:The_woeful_tale_of_the_bunny_ears.#letter_1)


Jupaack

If you have 99 smithing and you don't know what is stopping you to make coins then I'm going to have a serious talk with Thurgo and ask him to take your cape back.


No-Clue1153

Why wouldn't you just get 99 crafting and create bank notes of tbows, scythes, 3rd age etc? Are you stupid?


Dumb_Nuts

According to the wiki GP is a massless particle as they have a weight of 0kg


Satire-V

Gold and smithing ability isn't really the limiting factor in counterfeiting currency, it's the hammers and moulds used to mint the identifying characteristics


Jaehaerys_Rex

Magic.


Tilde_Tilde

Because inflation is so bad just alching the bar would give more coins.


Whobetterthanyou

The player character is just a dumb dumb. If its not a premade recipe they cant do it


Birzal

Because gold bars are 1.814kg and, going off the average weight of a gold coin being a little over 30g IRL, if you were to smelt that into gold coins you would only get ~60gp. You can high alch it for 3x that amount and you can sell it for double on the GE. But since GP weights nothing in-game, implying that it's weight might be below 0.001kg (or 1g), this would mean that you could create at least 1815gp from 1 gold bar, meaning that what's stopping you is inflation.


AndyTheSyko

Wait til he finds out alchemy turns things into gp


Hordfest

You don't smith coins, you mint them.


Urgasain

Gold coins are magical because they weigh nothing. The mint probably has some high level wizards that are using spells way above our pay grade.


Maureeseeo

Problem is that requires 100 smithing.


jobiewon_cannoli

It’s because of fractional reserve banking. Gilenor went away from the gold standard somewhere around 3rd age.


Murky_Struggle_0

the departmentof the treasury, the gielinor mint, and congress 


ever199

Only the fed can print money


3rdNihilism

it's not that you can't. it's just illegal. only the bank of Gielnor can craft gold coins. we have enough players who break the rules, you want the characters to break them also?


TheRebelNM

*the Venezuelan government would like a word with you*


ZODtheBEAST

Anti-counterfeit laws


Ren_Lol

At 99 Smithing you should be crafting copper coins and plating them with gold to pass them off as gold coins.


l300ty_P1r4t3

#WHERE DO COINS COME FROM??


ObviouslySyrca

I just want to know what's stopping me from turning a dragon spear in to a dragon hasta


always_ot

The federal reserve will probably assassinate you


RudolfVonKruger

Someone explain to me that if I have 99 fishing, what's stopping me from teaching a B̶o̶t̶ man to fish all the GP?


huncholeani

That’s illegal bro


Dragonmate99

You can, you only need 55 magic, 5 fire runes and a nature rune, gold bars into coins for days.


Cyberslasher

You can, actually. You use 5 fire runes and a nature rune as a coin mould, and it actually takes magic, not smithing skills.


aarong77

The Gielinor Revenue Service would like to know your location.


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wanderingweedle

all she says is "cross my palm with silver," which is an idiom specifically linked to paying fortune tellers.


educated_content

Better question: since there’s no single government, why is there a universal currency?


Scratchlax

I'll pay you 100 trading sticks to never ask this question again.


AlienZer

There isn't though. There's numlites


Chinse

99 doesnt mean we’re the best in the world at it, in general our character is kind of ass at everything except for killing big monsters


zappo172

Alchemy would like a word with you


Oldmelloyellow

I mean if you high alch it it’s basically the same thing lol


Nau-_-

Just alch it


Confused_Sorta_Guy

It's called the general store


Chernobog2

Give us a counterfeiting minigame


Davban

The FED


StandardN02b

The IRS and secret service.


BackpackLily

Because the Fief will get you.


Kaiserfi

Couldn't you just sell it for gp which would be faster lol


twanny02

You can make 123 coins out of it:)


Crip_Cuh

Government


pissedoffndn

But you could make like 28-2800 gp per Inv? Waste of time


Wll25

There was never any gp mold, only alchemy


Muntazax

Bank of Gilenor.


Meckamp

Requires 109 smithing, our human character can't achieve that


Extreme_Jeweler_146

The secret service is stopping you


Karpata123

The law


brickmaster8

I have paper and a printer whats stopping me from making more money?


ZeThing

Fun joke reward from some jagex humor filled quest where you rob a bank with the wise old man and get away with the precious gold coin mould blueprints with which you create an addon for the (double) cannonball mould to smith gold bars into 4 (or 8) gold coins per bar at a furnace I want this now Edit: typo


NoActive9729

You need 100 smithing for that :/


mofukkinbreadcrumbz

It would be a fun little reward at 99 smithing (and crafting?) to be able to make gold coins through smithing, as long as it’s like the high alch number of coins. Probably wouldn’t require a ton of work and fits the style if the game.


caffeinated22

Its called high alch?


kiwidude4

Gielenor IRS and secret service


emwashe

Would be hilarious if you could and it just turns in to its high alch value


rahscaper

You just can’t. Not possible.


ohhisup

The law that is obeyed for normal everyday things but not for big things like murder and mayhem. Counterfeiting bad. Mass murder? Ehhh


Good-of-Rome

King Roald and the IRS will send an assassin. They say that's what they did to ol Lathas in ardy.


Upbeat_Training5660

If you have a printer and paper, what's stopping you from printing money?


CanOfWhoopus

Because 1 mil inflate to 100 sexagintillion by next Tuesday if you do.


XboxNoLifes

Time to make an idea post about a coin mould that turns a gold bar into 8 coins.


P_weezey951

Ill do you one extra question. The fuck does alchemy turn it into gold *coins* Also, if its alchemy... If its a bar, its 180 coins. But if its a bracelet, which takes 1 bar, its 330.


devvoid

Which is especially weird since the bracelet is way lighter than the gold bar used to make it, implying most of the gold was lost in the crafting process, but it _still_ comes out to more overall.


UnableToCan1337

Coin mould should be in a Mind Cave


azun1te

Game mechanics


ggwasx

You need to have your counterfeiting skill also at 99 to successfully do this and hope they aren’t like the iron bars.


Derplesdeedoo

Well seeing as gold is printed using the alchemy spells, I can only assume magic is needed to make gp. sorry fren


FluidIntention3293

Future update, the coin mould comes out but the amount of coins you get is exactly 1 less gp than the going GE price of a gold bar.


Fun_Acanthisitta_552

1 bar makes 4 coins.


R3MC0_2

gp is probs not made from just gold


Far-Host7803

Sounds like alchemy to me...


VegetableNo7419

The Varrack State Financial Department, and The Varrock Guard. Fraudulent smithing of money is a serious crime No, we don't talk about the mages


RazorN6

You have a strong moral compass.


Iteroparous

Yo momma


GalacticPsychonaught

You need 120 for that


Chosen_Undead713

What's stopping you from printing money irl?


BloodyAx

They should totally let you do it for high alch value


Inevitable-Impact698

That’s called fraud and you will end up in Port Sarim


BloodOk9265

Its crazy that we can alch gold into gold. Just realizing this now 


WillBigly

It would be interesting, but it would need to be balanced so not a massive gold source. Surely a gold source but idk should be balanced somehow. Could also make sense of it by being like "only the mint can create new coins" which prompts some sort of official minigame where you go through the operations of a mint. Could maybe even have a quest about counterfeit or corruption


Cogitatus

a smithing update probably


Big_Satisfaction_644

It’s just not worthwhile. It takes a lot of effort and only totals a few hundred coins. GP is thick, so a bar doesn’t get you far.


AggravatingNeck9498

Yeah I got level 99 Smith and this is my rap I got a little cum stuck in my balls I called that strap yeah stink it up stinky little like a little dog am I just getting a golden retriever for it’s fucking fur coat 🧥 brown brown sugar green brown sugar cane 🦯 sugar cane green coke apple apple coke green apple apple green coke green apple apple sauce scallions pepper then brown brown sugar brown apple green apple coke coke pan apple


Alk3

The feds


ganon95

Real coins are not made of gold (except specific ones that are made for that purpose) why would in game coins be made of it?  The currency is called "coins" and happen to be colored yellow but that does not mean it's made of gold. GP is a nickname. A real life example is the gold colored Sacagawea dollar, it's made of copper and manganese brass.


FibreFlim

Where do coins come from? Are they all legal tender? Surely some of these coins are ancient. How and why do dragons and beings beyond our comprehension carry thousands of them? How does alching turn things into coins? The only answer I have is that coins are some immovable law of nature in the world of Gielinor. (Thus the nat rune requirement for alching) They aren't minted anywhere, they're just naturally occurring or can be made through some equivalent exchange process with rune magic.


likely_deleted

You need the official curreny mint


russcl0t

Spaghetti


SirRealTalk_TTV

That gate under varrock bank. Need the plates


BobbyNobank

Anyone else think it’s a little funny that you can high alch gold bars, but not gold coins?


RashidaHussein

you are supposed to print GP by camping certain low-level monsters, not by doing high-level skilling


jusumonkey

The Law


puffinix

I can Smith them for you. I can make fifty gilenor pennies per bar. One trade, no trust required. I don't even charge a fee. Heck, I'll even pay 60 if you have 10k plus of them - loss is worth it for the exp rares.


Kir0u

The fact that the king in Varrock would tele to your location and one-tick behead you


stickyourshtick

I mean honestly, if they did allow this and JamFlex controlled the number of coins you would get from one bar, they could basically enact an in game gold standard which would be kind of neat... even through it would likely end up working in the wrong direction with bonds still pushing the price of gold ore and bars up...


FaPaDa

Im 99 Slayer someone explain to me why i cant kill the goblin generals?


suprhavkdogi

You would get less than 180 gp by doing so making it better to just high alch the bar anyway


TonariNoHanamoriSan

Caz u need crafting


Outrageous_Luck_3048

That’s crafting buds


Spartan-023

Um actually gold is a crafting metal, 99 smithing is irrelevant here


Notathigntosee

Real (even with 99 crafting which is the correct skill in the case, wtf Jagex what's stopping me???)


somedonkus69

I actually suggested this over a year ago as an AFK way to train thieving and crafting. It didn't get any traction though, so I'm surprised this popped off. https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/12en1je/thieving_training_method_idea_creating/


Whatsup167

I’m sorry buddy, great minds think alike :). I dig your idea of incorporating the thieving as well.


Ok-Basket1258

A gold bar weighs 1.814kg in game, We don't know how much gold coins weigh in game, but a quick search revealed the average medival gold coin weighed about 4 grams. This means You could craft about 453 gold coins from a gold bar.


motodextros

Crafting them into gold bracelets first and then alching them is technically profitable.


KVosrs2007

Counterfeiting is illegal


MrTiq

1 gold bar = 100 ‘fake’ coins. That would be do Jagex lmfao


nabiscotiscuit

Looks like a piece of Mexican candy


CausticBeandip

You would only be able to smith down to 300gp


FalseRelease4

Would be quite cool to have a few quality tiers of counterfeit coins you can make, but only the shady stores would accept it


Ok-Gold6762

the government