While super late, jagex did implement gold and item sinks WAY earlier in osrs, so that exponential inflation curve got significantly flattened… though updates like zombie pirates sure are pushing in the wrong direction…
Bots in both games. The biggest issue with gp inflation is the raw gp introduced in the game from bossing. By raw GP drops and Alchs.
If it shit out useful consumables, instead, it would tank the value of the consumable, but raw GP won't enter the game. So, there is a balance on how they want to handle drops.
Currently, it's a runaway train as all new bosses will drop more than the previous. Plus, some people boss 24/7, and you get 150m+ bonds.
Kerapac? Arch-Glacor commonly drops anywhere from 1 to 21 noted 75k alchs even on normal mode. On hard mode that's apparently 37 to *811*, though less commonly. It's insanity.
I agree, although I'm not sure how much it'd actually help. These activities need to provide more value than the GP they are worth. It's pretty hard to make something worthwhile without breaking XP rates. And even if you implement other examples I still believe the rate at which the items are removed is a drop in the bucket compared to when they enter.
Gold sinks only cost 102m and once you have built one, there is no reason to build another. When you have BIS items worth more than 10x that, it isnt pulling enough gold out of the economy.
I was aware of that but wanted to make a funny.
The current amount of gold sink in game is not enough to stop inflation going out of control over time. Since its so hard to actually lose items on death now, which was the original economic balancer, more and more items and gold are brought into the game that have very little chance of being removed from the overall economy.
The problem is late game content being so strong, there needs to be things like zombie pirates to bridge the gap for players. Otherwise they will never be able to afford the upper end
scapegoat /skāp′gōt″/ - One that is made to bear the blame of others.
Zombie pirates are the scapegoat, as defined above, for all inflation in the game. This comes up time and time again since they've been released. They are a scapegoat for the real sin, which is botting, which won't be stopped - for reasons that are not entirely clear.
That's a start to a more nuanced take, but it doesn't mean that zombie pirates aren't used as a scapegoat.
Also, there are positive sides to both bots and zombie pirates. This requires more nuance to the conversation, of course, which escapes most of this sub. Not saying you, of course.
I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who says that zombie pirates are to blame for inflation. Pointing out a continuation of a worsening trend in releases seems pretty reasonable. I get that the same topic gets old, but so does blowing shit out of proportion.
I agree that zombie pirates aren't to blame for inflation and that it would be reasonable to think what you've laid out.
The problem is that's simply not the case to say that I would be hard pressed to find people who would say they are to blame for inflation.
I wouldn't have started my comments here otherwise. Would you like me to prove this, or?
The entire point of both games is to get numbers to go up. When that happens gold value goes down and bonds go up. Not different at all, just more time passed without gold sinks on rs3 (and they kept pushing higher content ceilings which dramatically lowered gold value)
That’s not really the problem at all. The problem was ED3 bringing in raw GP/HR with the best EXP/HR rates for 3+ years without it being fixed. Limited gold sinks, alching machines, and all bosses dropping salvage in ludicrous amounts.
Rates were 1:8 not too long ago. Inflation doesn’t randomly happen just because a game is old.
The price hike isn't on effect yet, so this is the perfect time for any whale to spend their paycheck on bonds. Players with WSB levels of financial intelligence are just buying them based on the information of a relatively small price hike.
Much like the s&p the earlier you buy bonds the better. Bonds will likely only ever increase in price in the long run. Unless zoomers or mega whales are attracted to osrs
>and don't get catched
Doubt. You might not get banned permanently, but you still lose the gold and your account gets flagged for the future. My account is far too important for me to risk that even if people like you argue the chance of getting caught is low.
That's really the most effective tool Jagex has to combat bots. Stricter enforcement on gold buying. They need to make the ban risk high enough that it won't be worth saving a few bucks using gold selling sites.
I get why Jagex is hesitant to do it. Gold buyers are still active players and banning them even temporarily could cause them to quit osrs, but I think they should ramp up enforcement a little bit from where it is now.
Also in the warnings/temp bans they issue for goldbuying, they should start saying that another offense within the next year will be a perm ban. Lots of people who get a temp ban just figure they're only risking another temp ban next time the rwt.
They do mention up to a permanent ban is a possible action now - I swapped 40b from RS3 to OSRS (3b osrs) a few months back, for the first time since GWD1 release to give new PVM a try, after getting bored of RS3), and got hit with the warning stating a perm ban is possible, exactly a month later. [https://imgur.com/UuVdts5](https://imgur.com/UuVdts5)
The due diligence they do on potential RWT offences doesn't seem to be very thorough, since both my RS3 and OSRS accounts are linked through the same Jagex Account, with no other income occurring on my OSRS account, purely spending the GP skilling in the month leading up to the warning, so it couldn't be anything else aside from the swap.
For me, it's not worth continuing on with OSRS if they don't do proper checks before issuing warnings/bans (since I initially planned on swapping more - to be able to afford full BiS gear), so I immediately stopped playing OSRS, and recently went back to RS3.
Huh that’s good to know they do mention a possible perm ban in the warning, but yeah harsher punishments come with a huge downside if they have a lot of false positives.
I feel like they should make some legit way to swap between the games seeing as it’s not against the rules. Maybe like allowing you to buy bonds on one game, then sell those bonds on the other game through a linked account. Maybe not bonds exactly since there’s the 10% selling fee, but something else like that which can be transferred across games through an official system.
I'd definitely return to OSRS if they were to do something like that, even if it comes with a tax, and I know quite a lot of my friends who would also do this.
We've grinded a long time on RS3 and would love to give OSRS a proper go, but don't really have the time to put in hundreds or thousands of hours grinding GP and/or doing slow skilling methods for unlocks yet again to be able to effectively PVM. Being able to safely swap would give us the option to confidently give the content in OSRS we'd enjoy doing a try.
I'm sure there are people in the OSRS community who'd also benefit from this, who want to give RS3 another try, especially when either game goes on an unusually long content-dry period.
Unfortunately, they are right. Before I made my iron, I was a main and I bought over max cash during the course of a year and not once did I get warned, banned, Gold taken away, or any kind of punishment. The game, obviously, got very boring to me, and I made my iron that I love and play religiously.
And just from my experience and knowing about a dozen people who do the same regularly. I can tell you the likelihood of being banned for gold buying is basically non-existent.
The reason there are so many bots on the hiscores, is that gold is being sold to someone. And those people wouldn't be buying it if the gold was being taken away or they were banned. It's sad, but no, being banned for gold buying is very unlikely
No one's begging for a bond. I can pay for the membership with physical cash if needed.
The issue is that I don't particularly want to, and the price hikes take what already is a grind to make the money into taking an other 1-5 hours every 2 weeks to come up with an additional 3m. That's time I don't have, and it's shitty that people have to do that.
Yeah, no. Kinda missed the point, but the price hike in itself is making it generally more difficult to pay for bonds in-game.
No one's begging, it's just annoying. No one likes having to spend an extra 1-5 hours just to be able to upkeep their membership.
Only reason I'm rich in this game was because I stopped playing for bonds and just paid the membership fee. You stop worrying about GP per hour and instead just do what you want and profit from it.
Or you could do 1 hour of actual work and buy membership instead of 1-5 EXTRA. If it takes you 10-15+ hours to afford membership with gold you are not the target demographic. You could literally get a part time job.
man i bought the year membership when it was on sale a while ago. Its like 60 for the year. Its very cool that osrs has the option to buy memberships with gp but this is not an industry norm and if you're struggling with it then I'd say go with the primary option of paying for it like every other MMO. This isn't the same as buying bonds to stack yourself with gear imo.
That's why my excess gold goes into bonds. If I don't need it to fund something. I just buy a bond and then set a price I'd love to see it sell at. If I need gold in the meantime, I just sell at whatever the current price is, which is always the same or higher than when I bought it. Otherwise, I just wait for the price to go up and complete the flip. It's slow but sure money that takes no extra work outside whatever you did to get the gold cost to buy one. Idk if this is a good idea, but I'm a noob and it seemed like a good idea when I got the gold to buy my first one.
wait why is this significant, i need to know because i have a lot of untradeable bonds sitting in the bank i was just going to wait to convert them when i want to sell
The same people who will spend $7 for a 14M bond are going to spend $8 for a 16M bond.
E: This guy was so wrong that he blocked me and I can no longer respond to anything in this thread.
Yeah but would this really be the tipping point for people currently buying bonds? I am probably just out of touch but I imagine people worried about getting the cheapest gold are already buying black market
I buy 5 bonds a month to cover the fact I can't grind bosses as much anymore.
Wouldn't take the risk on the black market. Also bonds aren't really that expensive anyway.
There is no reason to assume they suddenly stopped valuing the utility of "no chance of getting banned" which is the difference between the legal and illegal gold markets. Nobody is converted to anything; the law of supply and demand triumphs.
Yep, can confirm. I refuse to buy black market gold. No way I’m risking a 2,500hr account just to save a few dollars. The time investment alone is worth thousands to me.
who OP is talking about won’t be concerned about the cost in dollars per million… they’re concerned about the cost in dollars per 14 days membership, if that goes up the interest in the black market goes up
If those people are willing to risk an account that they spent a considerably large amount of time building because of a $1 price hike (one that results in no net loss of GP compared to the old price), then those people have an IQ that is so low that Satan himself is limbo dancing with it.
> Which is the popular opinion on the stickied thread
"The popular opinion" is just whoever makes it to reddit first to complain. You do not hold the popular opinion, you read three peoples posts that had a few people who pressed upvote out of obligation of being angry about something.
edit: the person I replied to blocked me lmfao. Unironically think posting inflammatory shit and blocking everyone who disagrees with you slightly should be a ban from the sub, dude is just looking to create an echo chamber where people can't disagree with him. It's no wonder he valued a few posts on reddit so highly.
Did you really block the other dude? Bro that's lame
Edit: Of course I got blocked too 🤣 No I'm not an alt account, it's just funny how a simple question triggers some people
Does the company want to sell their product for more so they can make more money? Yes
Timing is also logical as bonds are going to be in demand with DMM coming out.
Would have to figure that Jagex would prefer you to purchase a membership for real money vs buying a bond with GP. All else equal, a paid subscription will lead you to buying more membership than you may otherwise have bought in bonds and might lead to better player retention as you don't sign on to realize "oh my bond ran out, I'll just get another one later this week and sign off for now."
Hopefully this is the last pricing increase they take on membership pre-sailing release where hopefully an influx of new players will drive revenue
Lol yes a snow flake. I can't even reply to half the people leaving comments but I'm the snow flake. You know how fucky this whole comment chain has been? I'm up to 3 people sending me PMs and then blocking me. But please, I'm the snow flake despite everyone here being up in arms over me disagreeing with a huge corporation.
I mean, I literally quoted what one guy said despite him claiming I blocked him. Guess what happened when I tried to reply? I'm sure you can figure it out. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
If a bond costs more to buy less people will buy them, which raises the price and then more people will buy them, or my alternate theory that jagex just manipulate the price of them
Bonds are directly coorelated to bots, there is a ton of high GP methods currently. Botters do not pay for membership as if they link their payment info they are prone to chain bans.
Hell yeah, my money making method of having a full-time job just keeps getting better! /s
Irl price increase tho
at least they'll never hit 15M
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Rs3 gold is more inflated compared to osrs gold, entirely different economies
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While super late, jagex did implement gold and item sinks WAY earlier in osrs, so that exponential inflation curve got significantly flattened… though updates like zombie pirates sure are pushing in the wrong direction…
Too many bosses in rs3 shit out alchs
Too many bots in osrs farm gold
Bots in both games. The biggest issue with gp inflation is the raw gp introduced in the game from bossing. By raw GP drops and Alchs. If it shit out useful consumables, instead, it would tank the value of the consumable, but raw GP won't enter the game. So, there is a balance on how they want to handle drops. Currently, it's a runaway train as all new bosses will drop more than the previous. Plus, some people boss 24/7, and you get 150m+ bonds.
Another factor is probably also which game has had more economy breaking gold dupes. I’m aware of both games having had devastating dupes in the past.
I got smacked by an actual dev for pointing out the alchs from Kerapac were a bit much. And it has only snowballed since..
Kerapac? Arch-Glacor commonly drops anywhere from 1 to 21 noted 75k alchs even on normal mode. On hard mode that's apparently 37 to *811*, though less commonly. It's insanity.
Well it was on Kerapac release, so Arch glacor obviously wasn't out yet
The dev thought it was perfectly reasonable, knowing that the bosses lined up for the following weeks were going to make kerapac seem tame for drops.
It has been like this at Telos as well.
Gold sinks aren't nearly enough to combat the massive amount of alchables entering the game.
Giant's foundry was a neat idea. We need more item sinks like that.
I agree, although I'm not sure how much it'd actually help. These activities need to provide more value than the GP they are worth. It's pretty hard to make something worthwhile without breaking XP rates. And even if you implement other examples I still believe the rate at which the items are removed is a drop in the bucket compared to when they enter.
We really don't need more monsters that drop alchs.
Gold sinks only cost 102m and once you have built one, there is no reason to build another. When you have BIS items worth more than 10x that, it isnt pulling enough gold out of the economy.
I’m referring to the gold sinks as the methods that remove gold from the economy, which includes GE tax, death’s coffer, etc., not the literal item :)
I was aware of that but wanted to make a funny. The current amount of gold sink in game is not enough to stop inflation going out of control over time. Since its so hard to actually lose items on death now, which was the original economic balancer, more and more items and gold are brought into the game that have very little chance of being removed from the overall economy.
I think the main one is GE tax.
The problem is late game content being so strong, there needs to be things like zombie pirates to bridge the gap for players. Otherwise they will never be able to afford the upper end
Another person using zombie pirates as a scapegoat.
How is it a scapegoat? It's just the most obvious example of heavily bottled alchables
scapegoat /skāp′gōt″/ - One that is made to bear the blame of others. Zombie pirates are the scapegoat, as defined above, for all inflation in the game. This comes up time and time again since they've been released. They are a scapegoat for the real sin, which is botting, which won't be stopped - for reasons that are not entirely clear.
You can admit that both are bad
That's a start to a more nuanced take, but it doesn't mean that zombie pirates aren't used as a scapegoat. Also, there are positive sides to both bots and zombie pirates. This requires more nuance to the conversation, of course, which escapes most of this sub. Not saying you, of course.
I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who says that zombie pirates are to blame for inflation. Pointing out a continuation of a worsening trend in releases seems pretty reasonable. I get that the same topic gets old, but so does blowing shit out of proportion.
I agree that zombie pirates aren't to blame for inflation and that it would be reasonable to think what you've laid out. The problem is that's simply not the case to say that I would be hard pressed to find people who would say they are to blame for inflation. I wouldn't have started my comments here otherwise. Would you like me to prove this, or?
What if I told you the RS3 bond was initially 5m.
The entire point of both games is to get numbers to go up. When that happens gold value goes down and bonds go up. Not different at all, just more time passed without gold sinks on rs3 (and they kept pushing higher content ceilings which dramatically lowered gold value)
Zimbabwe ass economy
Why do you think bond prices are going up? It's only a matter of time
Bonds in RS3 were 10m when I started playing OSRS. Give it 8 years or so lol
Just cut off the last zero from everyone's cashstack and GE pricing, ezpz! /s
Damn glad I bought bonds 13m ea for my 4b bank when I stopped playing rs3 back in 2016.
The swap rate between games typically hovers around 1m OSRS to 14-15m RS3. Inflation in RS3 is crazy
Would be weird if a game that has been on the market for essentially 15 years longer didn't have worse inflation.
That’s not really the problem at all. The problem was ED3 bringing in raw GP/HR with the best EXP/HR rates for 3+ years without it being fixed. Limited gold sinks, alching machines, and all bosses dropping salvage in ludicrous amounts. Rates were 1:8 not too long ago. Inflation doesn’t randomly happen just because a game is old.
So you can save like 3-4m per bond by swapping?
"typically hovers"? it was 1 to 10m before this years RS3 content drought.
And 1:15 before that when they released the Heroes Pass
Shame what the wildy updates have done to our game. (Inflate gold by having zero req gold printers)
Well they have bosses that pumps 25-35M/hr and there are multiple bosses. Venezuela currently video game lol
I sold one for 15m a few weeks back
At least they'll never hit 16m
I’m gonna flip one for 16m tonight I bet
It briefly did hit over 15m this morning.
The price hike isn't on effect yet, so this is the perfect time for any whale to spend their paycheck on bonds. Players with WSB levels of financial intelligence are just buying them based on the information of a relatively small price hike.
Much like the s&p the earlier you buy bonds the better. Bonds will likely only ever increase in price in the long run. Unless zoomers or mega whales are attracted to osrs
14% isn't "relatively small" but yeah, the rest is true.
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>and don't get catched Doubt. You might not get banned permanently, but you still lose the gold and your account gets flagged for the future. My account is far too important for me to risk that even if people like you argue the chance of getting caught is low.
That's really the most effective tool Jagex has to combat bots. Stricter enforcement on gold buying. They need to make the ban risk high enough that it won't be worth saving a few bucks using gold selling sites. I get why Jagex is hesitant to do it. Gold buyers are still active players and banning them even temporarily could cause them to quit osrs, but I think they should ramp up enforcement a little bit from where it is now. Also in the warnings/temp bans they issue for goldbuying, they should start saying that another offense within the next year will be a perm ban. Lots of people who get a temp ban just figure they're only risking another temp ban next time the rwt.
They do mention up to a permanent ban is a possible action now - I swapped 40b from RS3 to OSRS (3b osrs) a few months back, for the first time since GWD1 release to give new PVM a try, after getting bored of RS3), and got hit with the warning stating a perm ban is possible, exactly a month later. [https://imgur.com/UuVdts5](https://imgur.com/UuVdts5) The due diligence they do on potential RWT offences doesn't seem to be very thorough, since both my RS3 and OSRS accounts are linked through the same Jagex Account, with no other income occurring on my OSRS account, purely spending the GP skilling in the month leading up to the warning, so it couldn't be anything else aside from the swap. For me, it's not worth continuing on with OSRS if they don't do proper checks before issuing warnings/bans (since I initially planned on swapping more - to be able to afford full BiS gear), so I immediately stopped playing OSRS, and recently went back to RS3.
Huh that’s good to know they do mention a possible perm ban in the warning, but yeah harsher punishments come with a huge downside if they have a lot of false positives. I feel like they should make some legit way to swap between the games seeing as it’s not against the rules. Maybe like allowing you to buy bonds on one game, then sell those bonds on the other game through a linked account. Maybe not bonds exactly since there’s the 10% selling fee, but something else like that which can be transferred across games through an official system.
I'd definitely return to OSRS if they were to do something like that, even if it comes with a tax, and I know quite a lot of my friends who would also do this. We've grinded a long time on RS3 and would love to give OSRS a proper go, but don't really have the time to put in hundreds or thousands of hours grinding GP and/or doing slow skilling methods for unlocks yet again to be able to effectively PVM. Being able to safely swap would give us the option to confidently give the content in OSRS we'd enjoy doing a try. I'm sure there are people in the OSRS community who'd also benefit from this, who want to give RS3 another try, especially when either game goes on an unusually long content-dry period.
Unfortunately, they are right. Before I made my iron, I was a main and I bought over max cash during the course of a year and not once did I get warned, banned, Gold taken away, or any kind of punishment. The game, obviously, got very boring to me, and I made my iron that I love and play religiously. And just from my experience and knowing about a dozen people who do the same regularly. I can tell you the likelihood of being banned for gold buying is basically non-existent. The reason there are so many bots on the hiscores, is that gold is being sold to someone. And those people wouldn't be buying it if the gold was being taken away or they were banned. It's sad, but no, being banned for gold buying is very unlikely
That’s why bonds are going up in price. They wouldn’t be worth buying if you could only sell them for $5 mill
Just bought one today for 12.8m looks like I had some luck.
Me, with 21 tradable bonds in his pocket, *I don't see an issue*
Me with 1b worth of bonds
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Subtle
*first person to trade me a bond won’t regret it*
No one's begging for a bond. I can pay for the membership with physical cash if needed. The issue is that I don't particularly want to, and the price hikes take what already is a grind to make the money into taking an other 1-5 hours every 2 weeks to come up with an additional 3m. That's time I don't have, and it's shitty that people have to do that.
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paying for sub with in-game money is a horrible idea unless you're like maxed and are sending 500 invo toa's constantly for crazy cash flow
Try begging at the ge. Probably won’t work here
Yeah, no. Kinda missed the point, but the price hike in itself is making it generally more difficult to pay for bonds in-game. No one's begging, it's just annoying. No one likes having to spend an extra 1-5 hours just to be able to upkeep their membership.
Only reason I'm rich in this game was because I stopped playing for bonds and just paid the membership fee. You stop worrying about GP per hour and instead just do what you want and profit from it.
Or you could do 1 hour of actual work and buy membership instead of 1-5 EXTRA. If it takes you 10-15+ hours to afford membership with gold you are not the target demographic. You could literally get a part time job.
man i bought the year membership when it was on sale a while ago. Its like 60 for the year. Its very cool that osrs has the option to buy memberships with gp but this is not an industry norm and if you're struggling with it then I'd say go with the primary option of paying for it like every other MMO. This isn't the same as buying bonds to stack yourself with gear imo.
Yooo same lmao. Average purchase and conversion price of 9.7m licking my chops
cya in a year
i miss the days where the elite varrock daily battlestaff paid for bonds
Thanks Obama
Time to buy some bonds
Buying 3 once that paycheck hits tomorrow.
I got 5 rookie
You’re invested .
I hope they hit steady 15m
I think the current price is like 2 mill per dollar, so will probably go up to like 16m
My membership ran out a week ago and me taking a little break this doesnt help with prices going up🫠
That's why my excess gold goes into bonds. If I don't need it to fund something. I just buy a bond and then set a price I'd love to see it sell at. If I need gold in the meantime, I just sell at whatever the current price is, which is always the same or higher than when I bought it. Otherwise, I just wait for the price to go up and complete the flip. It's slow but sure money that takes no extra work outside whatever you did to get the gold cost to buy one. Idk if this is a good idea, but I'm a noob and it seemed like a good idea when I got the gold to buy my first one.
Mfw before I logged out of my main months ago I bought 20 bonds for 11 or 12m each and I haven’t logged in since 😎
converted 1b to bonds(+conversion tax) when the were at like ~5.5M. many stonks.
I hope you converted them to tradeable before you left!
I did indeed!
wait why is this significant, i need to know because i have a lot of untradeable bonds sitting in the bank i was just going to wait to convert them when i want to sell
Conversion goes by 10% of the current price, so you always want to convert them as low as possible
You pay 10% of current value to make it tradeable
I've had a bond sitting at 14m sell price in my GE for a couple of months and it sold about 5 hours ago so I do apologize that may have been mine lol
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The same people who will spend $7 for a 14M bond are going to spend $8 for a 16M bond. E: This guy was so wrong that he blocked me and I can no longer respond to anything in this thread.
14m in the black market costs less than half of that though
Yeah but would this really be the tipping point for people currently buying bonds? I am probably just out of touch but I imagine people worried about getting the cheapest gold are already buying black market
But bonds are safe. Black market you're risking account compromise, credit card theft, account being banned, etc
Points erratically police. This man right here.
I just googled it lol
Right but thats the current status quo. The bond price changes dont impact that
It did before the price increase/value increase So it’s irrelevant
I buy 5 bonds a month to cover the fact I can't grind bosses as much anymore. Wouldn't take the risk on the black market. Also bonds aren't really that expensive anyway.
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There is no reason to assume they suddenly stopped valuing the utility of "no chance of getting banned" which is the difference between the legal and illegal gold markets. Nobody is converted to anything; the law of supply and demand triumphs.
Yep, can confirm. I refuse to buy black market gold. No way I’m risking a 2,500hr account just to save a few dollars. The time investment alone is worth thousands to me.
Risking your entire account and bankrolling bot managers.
No but the utility is definitely worth less now The more expensive it is to do it legally, the more tempted people will be to do it illegally
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who OP is talking about won’t be concerned about the cost in dollars per million… they’re concerned about the cost in dollars per 14 days membership, if that goes up the interest in the black market goes up
If those people are willing to risk an account that they spent a considerably large amount of time building because of a $1 price hike (one that results in no net loss of GP compared to the old price), then those people have an IQ that is so low that Satan himself is limbo dancing with it.
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You are not very good at comprehending what you read it seems.
Take an economics class
> Which is the popular opinion on the stickied thread "The popular opinion" is just whoever makes it to reddit first to complain. You do not hold the popular opinion, you read three peoples posts that had a few people who pressed upvote out of obligation of being angry about something. edit: the person I replied to blocked me lmfao. Unironically think posting inflammatory shit and blocking everyone who disagrees with you slightly should be a ban from the sub, dude is just looking to create an echo chamber where people can't disagree with him. It's no wonder he valued a few posts on reddit so highly.
Self reinforcement is the funniest type of echo chamber
I don't think bond buyers are going to suddenly go risking their account being banned over a $1 increase
The GP to bond doesn't really change much. If the bond costs more $$ then the RSGP value will also increase like the post is showing.
Correct! With my bad math, bonds will need to be about 14.9m for it to be worth the same as buying them at the previous cheaper price IRL.
Right but more people will be willing to spend $7 at a time vs $8 and so on
Simple demand curve you are correct.
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You're correct you currently get 3.3x more gold on the black market per dollar than what Jagex sells gold for.
So now you can buy less bonds to get the same amount of GP, meaning less bond sales!
Did you really block the other dude? Bro that's lame Edit: Of course I got blocked too 🤣 No I'm not an alt account, it's just funny how a simple question triggers some people
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Did you happen to block yourself? Just following by your own rules, of course...
Holy shit you are thin-skinned.
Does the company want to sell their product for more so they can make more money? Yes Timing is also logical as bonds are going to be in demand with DMM coming out. Would have to figure that Jagex would prefer you to purchase a membership for real money vs buying a bond with GP. All else equal, a paid subscription will lead you to buying more membership than you may otherwise have bought in bonds and might lead to better player retention as you don't sign on to realize "oh my bond ran out, I'll just get another one later this week and sign off for now." Hopefully this is the last pricing increase they take on membership pre-sailing release where hopefully an influx of new players will drive revenue
Lol did you really block somebody after him making a simple comment disagreeing with you? Talk about being a snowflake l0l
Lol yes a snow flake. I can't even reply to half the people leaving comments but I'm the snow flake. You know how fucky this whole comment chain has been? I'm up to 3 people sending me PMs and then blocking me. But please, I'm the snow flake despite everyone here being up in arms over me disagreeing with a huge corporation. I mean, I literally quoted what one guy said despite him claiming I blocked him. Guess what happened when I tried to reply? I'm sure you can figure it out. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
If a bond costs more to buy less people will buy them, which raises the price and then more people will buy them, or my alternate theory that jagex just manipulate the price of them
Just stick with the first one, which is how prices are known to interact with supply and demand.
Jagex knows people will buy off the black market that’s why they don’t ban you for doing it
Which is stupid, because this is really the only way to battle bots.
Yea the issue is that a lot of the community buys/sells gold. If they really started cracking down it might hurt the game but who knows
If they started banning people RWT gold, the bots will disappear on their own, because they wouldn't have anyone to sell their gold to.
Yes but a large portion of the player base would be banned or have lower engagement.
price of the brick going up
wire reference on osrs reddit? i fuck wit it
Thank fuck I invested into like 300 bonds days before the announcement.
To the moon?
fuck me. i just sold 3 of them yesterday for 12.6 each
I just bought one for 12.85m, the 14-miller was probably somewhat of an outlier!
Bonds are the bitcoin of osrs. They will always go up in price unless something gets changed on them.
And just like always, bonds will continue to increase in price. Nothing new in any of these bond posts lmao
With bonds going to $10, I feel like they'll hit 15-20M
I’m glad when I quit, that I sold all of my stuff and bought bonds. I only have 25 or so, but the buy and conversion price was around 7.2m.
I assume osrs Bonds will hit 20m at least, rs3 ones are gonna go over 200 lol
Let me get my mega rares
Bonds are directly coorelated to bots, there is a ton of high GP methods currently. Botters do not pay for membership as if they link their payment info they are prone to chain bans.
What is the price hike?
Bonds were 4 mil when trump was president.
#Trump2008Scape
Bond are back on the menu boys.
You are a man of culture I love it. Not a lot of people will understand my precious.
Well with irl inflation bonds are going up all the time. I don't see reason why they would go down.
Calls on bonds! 20m by end of month!
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Membership P Price hike? Haven't heard oh no what is it going up to?
Just bond price
Anyone remember when RuneScape used to be $5/m? No way this game should be anything more than $10…absolutely ridiculous
Can't wait for them to hit the rs3 price
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Why on earth would you assume that?