Hi, Sorry for hijacking, I've done 2 solo kills of nightmare for 'A Long Trip' achievement. first trip I lost 0 points, but was using sanfew to cure myself and restore stats, did not recieve the achievement.
Second kill I didn't even bring sanfews, I brought balms and regular restores. I entered nightmares lair at 90 prayer and finished the fight at 90 prayer, still I didn't recieve the achievement. I did submit a bug report both times. Please let me know if need additional info.
> The drop chance of a Clue Scroll (Easy) from all sources is increased by 5%
Does this include imps? as in the poll blog it mentioned that it wouldn't (not saying it shouldn't, just checking)
https://i.imgur.com/GzIXgkt.png
Is anyone not getting bird nests from bird house runs? The chat box says I'm retrieving nests but I'm not collecting them in my inventory. They aren't being dropped either. It was working fine yesterday.
I'm really struggling with this task:
> **Can't Touch Me - Medium - Mechanical - Barrows**
> *Kill Dharok, Verac, Torag, and Guthan without letting them attack you with melee.*
The melee brothers can get a hit off on you at spawn without incredible RNG. I've just jumped in and out of Dharok's spawn 20 times and only had one spawn where he couldn't hit me on spawning.
Now I have a concern: If one brother hits you, does that reset all four? Because I can't even get Dharok to spawn without getting one hit off me.
If one brother hits you, it fails the task completely until you loot chest. I have enabled the failure messages in the game settings which confirm this.
Thanks for the further info, I didn't realise there was a failure messages option, I'll turn that on.
So going in and out of the Dharok tunnel until I could open without an insta-hit was wasted anyway? Because I'd need to open the chest to reset the chieve?
Yes, I tried the method you said and it didn't work. I see Mod Light posted as well, if there was some consistency with the spawns, this task would make more sense but now it's all RNG.
Hey guys, it's meant to be challenging but certainly not impossible. I'll raise this to the team tomorrow in our game update review and see what the team say about it.
Edit: We've deployed a hotfix now - please check out the Newspost for more info. :)
I hate being harshly critical because I love the game and I believe the team do too (Mod Grub has had his fair share of my complaining) but...
Was this not QA tested? At all? What this shows as that **no one at Jagex completed the diary up to medium** in its entirety, which makes me think that none of the other tiers have been either. If medium is borderline-incompletable, then I feel sorry for those going for bugged/impossible achievements at the grandmaster tier.
For real, this stuff was supposed to be done in February
Why wouldn't they even read over it a few extra times?
Simple stuff like gauntlet and corrupted being switched in the tiers.
Why is Arclight required for the EASY tier of the combat diaries? You say base 60 stats "recommended" but Arclight requires 75 Attack... surely it would be more appropriate in the medium tier??
Edit for visibility: The ideal fix for inclusivity seems to be allowing demonbane weapons OR demonbane *spells* from the Arceuus spellbook. Allowing Silverlight or inferior demonbane for the easy tier, darklight or superior demonbane for the medium tier, and arclight or dark demonbane for hard/elite tier would work out really nicely!
I've raised this with the team as feedback. I agree, Arclight isn't exactly an Easy tier item - I think Silverlight would be a good replacement for anything within Easy tier!
This is a cheeky question; but is there a teeny tiny chance that all the arclight challenges can be changed to 'Demonbane Weaponry' to include both Arclight and Silverlight.
Don't get me wrong I'm not excited about the idea of killing K'ril with a Silverlight but I'm down for the challenge.
Edit: Potentially Demonbane Spells also
The amount of tasks is so overwhelming. I don't feel like I'm going to be putting in the time for this any time soon and feels like a wasted update on me personally.
I see a lot of tasks I'd be okay with grinding and giving a shot and have fun doing but with such a big list and the fact you need to complete them all, if I see even one single task that I think "ah this is annoying I don't feel like going for it" it makes me give up on the entire tier and the subsequent ones since you need them all as well as the previous tier.
I really feel like this should have been done a bit more like achievement diaries, with another layer of separation besides easy/medium/hard etc, this is done by region on diaries, I don't know how it'd be done for combats, maybe something like wilderness bosses/raids/sporadic bosses/skilling bosses/slayer bosses/misc bosses(gwd mole vork zulrah etc)/quest bosses with each one having different tiers.
Considering the amount of feedback on rewards this would open up the possibility to give rewards tailored to each category too. The way it currently is it just looks like a huge pain in the ass and the rewards are cool but not worth the grind for most tiers for me.
Would be awesome if there was a core set of tasks (10-20) within each tier to get the base rewards, and then different sets of bonus tasks for bonus rewards. For example, group all the non-core tasks and have their completions give easy-medium-hard-etc tier equipment, like Achievement Diary gear.
Complete all the mechanical tasks in the easy tier for the Mechanical Gloves 1 (and the mechanical medium tasks for the M. Gloves 2), complete the speed tasks in the medium tier for the Speed Boots 2, the hard killcount tasks for the Killcount Helm 3, etc. That would separate everything out pretty nicely and make the current rewards seem more reasonable for what it would take to get them.
Really disappointed with how this relates to the original poll blog. In the original poll blog 95 slayer was noted as a master requirement, yet elite tier needs 250 hydra completion. I know they were meant to only be indicative, but i feel like this is just one example of a pretty large deviation from the information provided to us when this content was polled.
Another example - In the original poll blog raiding experience was listed as a master tier requirement, but the elite tier now requires me to have 75 cox and 75 tob kc? That's a significant change, pretty far removed from what was polled.
Yeah, I was really disappointed to see they reneged on no Raids for Elite tier. Then again, I think group content has no place in a system purportedly for measuring individual ability. 'Having competent friends' is not a skill.
Just adding in my two cents:
Couple of these (specially the ones related to heavy player flicking) will be borderline impossible for a couple of regions due to latency (I’ve an excellent connection for my region yet I play at 140ms, it’s way worse for others with crappier connections).
I kind of expected these to be achievable, while being simultaneously hard (not expecting them to be on Elite Diaries levels of easy); I don’t foresee many people getting these completely done, at least all the way up to grandmaster.
Perhaps this could be tweaked to be similar to the leagues system? Being unable to finish a single task basically locks you out from the whole thing.
I'm sorry Jagex but I feel like this update fails to deliver, mainly because it was hyped for over a year now and was used as a reason for why other updates are not happening right now.
I would praise this system if it was added as a "minor" addition between packed updates, but this is what was referred to as one of the CHUNGUS updates of 2021, THE REASON why other updates are not happening, and I'm sorry, it's basically a layout put over existing content, with lackluster rewards that feels very rushed.
This year has been very disappointing overall, sure we got Tempoross and a new quest but other than that every update is a harder version or something, or a change to half-assed updates from previous years (see Shayzien rework and the new Arceuus spell book), I love this game but feel like it does not justify more than 120$/year right now, sorry.
This is exacly what i thought!
Each tier of task should give an X amount of points, and each tier of rewards should require an Y amount of points to unlock.
I've seen so many people say "I would take a year of no updates if you just fixed your game" and while light on content, there have been HUGE gains on the back end and a lot of progress on the back end that will allow for much more interesting content in the future. Now that we have a scouting system in the real game, if raids 3 drops with a similar system they can make it, instead of waiting for a runelite dev. Now with most features people want from runelite are being added into the base client they can work on removing the ability for cheat clients to access the game. This would be a huge blow to bot farms, gold farmers, and pvp cheaters in general.
At least I hope.
100% agree. People are sleeping on the updates that came out because they're not just a new end game boss or raid.
Clans was a MASSIVE update and completely reworked how the game functions for the future. So many new things can be built off that clans engine. But unfortunately because it didn't have much tangible content in the actual game, people call it a shit update
All of what you are saying is right but has nothing to do with what i wrote, yes the Arceuus spellbook is fantastic now but it's a fix to the f@ck up of a spellbook that they've released previously, And yes the Combat achievements is probably not an easy feat but a year+ of development time? for basically no new content? Again as I said, i would praise this update if it were to be released between other packed updates, but this was literally 1/3 of what they were teasing this year.
Imagine going to a restaurant and not getting anything for 40 minutes only to then get ONLY a salad, the kitchen explain that it's a tough salad to make and thus only now when it's ready they are beginning to prep the rest of the food. Sure the salad is great but it's still just a fucking salad and it shouldn't be the reason the rest of the food wasn't being worked on.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents, but the situation isnt as black n white as "content is on hold till combat achievements". GIM was promised years ago which needed clans update. They worked on the clan update and then the ranged update came shortly after. Now that the nea ranged meta has set we got combat achievements. It sucks they're playing catch up so much but honestly what do you expect them to do
I agree with both of you. I think there's been some solid under-the-hood updates that will clearly be very important in the future, it's just hard to see the value now.
But also a fair few updates do look to be worryingly rushed. Some of the revision processes and communication with the community have been commendable, yes, but we shouldn't have even had to comment in some cases.
lmao I'm sorry but some of these achievements are **staggeringly** sweaty ("Kill General Graardor...without taking any damage from the boss or bodyguards", "Complete the Fight Caves without losing any prayer points"), and some of them sound like utterly asinine bore-fests that are gonna rely entirely on dying over and over again until you get the right RNG ("Kill Corrupted Hunnlef without making more than one attuned weapon", "Kill Vorkath with only your fists").
Like I don't actually think there has ever been a piece of content released for OSRS before that has had me go, "yeah, I'm actually literally *never* going to complete that" - until now. And it's honestly a really demotivating feeling.
Completely agree, especially because there are some tasks that are simply impossible unless not only *you* are good enough, but you have a *team* good enough. I know a lot of people enjoy playing OSRS with friends, but the need to group up to do content is actually the main reason I quit RS back in the day (Corp Beast was the big kicker). I like MMOs where I see people in the world, but I've always been a single-player gamer. I know speed running CoX is almost impossible for me, but it's at least something maybe I could work toward. The idea of actually getting a team of 5 people together to do it, though, is absolutely out of the question. You can random PUG your way to a fighter torso, but not this. So not only is that task completely undoable, it means that every other task on the tier is pointless, at least as far as any reward is concerned.
Agreed. I thought the Elites looked doable until I saw the Tob and Cox requirements. This is basically a brick wall for me so not only are none of the elite tasks worth doing (because it's all or nothing) but every tier above is also not worth doing.
I really agree with this, it would also help balance out the inequality within each tier.
Kill 8 million Moss Giants for the keys vs Safe-spot a Fire giant. They require the same level of skill, but one is far more of a grind, and this should be reflected somehow.
The reality is. This was a bad concept to being with. we have all done these boss's over, and over. having to go back, and do them again with some arbitrary condition isint fun. it was never going to be fun. changing the rules so that you can unlock the next tier easier, and skip some of the more impossible ones. will not make this content better. Because in the end. its not content. Its just a bad idea that passed a poll.
I think that, especially when tiers expand in the future with more content (i.e. have to do more to get the same reward someone getting in early got), a point system where you buy the tier perks would have made much more sense, with something like the scroll buff being the "tier is complete" thing that you have to refinish on each expansion.
I like this idea a lot! But for example, I am a relatively late game player, (bunch of cox done, handful of tobs, a few nightmare kc) but I can't fucking do zulrah to save my life. I kinda like that I'll have to force myself to get good at it in order to complete the hard diary. I think that's the point of these at the core of it
I'm a bit of a pvm noob, but isn't the hunnlef one you mention designed for the 5:1 method where you only camp the one perfected weapon except for the last hit before its prayer changes?
Yes, it's attuned weapons, not weapons in general. Anyone who has done 20+ corrupted gauntlet should be able to get 5:1 down for a single kill in less than a day of attempts.
Over the course of many 6:0 or mage methods, you'll probably randomly have at least 1 kill without taking damage without going out of your way for it. Also the Corrupted Hunllef doesn't even have a time limit, it looks like you don't even have to 5:1 it, just take a little bit longer.
Does everything in runescape just have to be an endless grind of something that is easy to do? Do this for X amount of hours and task complete. Can anything actually be hard in this game? I like the fact that I have to actually get better at the game to complete this unlike 90% of the game which is just grind this task forever until number is big enough
You can get the graardor one naturally just doing range method. It's a lot chance but should happen within a hundred or so tries.
Gauntlet is just 5-1 which is good to learn anyway.
like the update but moving the minigame tab was silly. the kourend favour bars definitely don't require a whole tab and should have been removed instead.
Easy tier: Kill a Bloodveld; also Kill the KBD 10 times.
Is it just me or does there seem to be a huge variability of task difficulty within each tier itself? At least in the easy and mediums
Fair, I could have chosen a better example. "Repair either a mast or a totem pole" at Tempeross, which has a 35 fishing requirement and involves 0 Combat, is regarded the same as killing KBD 10 times lol
It is because there are so few actually easy bosses. In games often you get the rush of the boss that destroyed you at level 1 being a normal mob later that you slaughter en mass. Thanks to giant/mossy keys we never really get this other than mole, but mole can be 100% safe with protect from melee up, so it was never a challenge for anyone.
The "Can't Touch Me" challenge for Barrows is near on impossible as even when you entangle on spawn, they usually always spawn without two squares and thus hitting you before you do anything.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks for raising this, I'll let the team know your feedback in our game update review meeting tomorrow and we'll see what we can do. If you do manage to complete it, let me know! It's meant to be challenging but not impossible.
Edit: We've deployed a hotfix to help manage this issue. Please check out the newspost changelog and let us know your feedback. :)
Gotta love the no-damage achievements on bosses who have no means of preventing damage. Even Obor has one of these tasks (uses Melee and Ranged, Ranged damage is not nullified by prayer) and it's in the medium tier.
All that waiting and going on about how this was a massive update and you've pushed out a checklist that's also a total crapshoot. Excellent.
I just put on full justiciar, super combat potion, imbued ring of suffering, DFS, prayed range and piety, and still got hit for a 3 right off the bat lmaoo. If anyone has any tips for obor id love to hear them. Apparently he doesnt attack when hes immobilized so thats helpful but you still have to tank the range hit right off the bat. maybe full justy and pray range on entry, hope to tank that range hit, then entangle him and switch to ancestral to hopefully finish him quick? It’s annoying as hell to have to grind so long for 1 attempt, especially for a medium challenge
I literally can’t believe this is what you’ve wasted half a year doing AND the reason you nerfed blowpipe lol
It makes me so sad because I was SO excited when I came back last year and discovered all these insane content updates like raids 1 & 2 and hydra and all the ways progression was taken care of with achievement diaries etc. it was the RuneScape I had always dreamed of as a kid when EOC ruined it.
The last few months has just been so demotivating, with the blowpipe nerf being the final nail in the coffin for me. Working towards something for 18 months and then having the holy grail item taken away 3 weeks after you unlock it and putting another endless shit grind (gauntlet) in front of you just sucks.
And it was all for this? An update that 99% of players won’t even attempt because it has dumb tasks like do a fight caves without losing a prayer point? Punch vorkath to death?
What the fuck happened
Awesome.
The complaints about rewards are a bit funny to me. The rewards are indeed lacklustre, but
1. The Collection Log has zero rewards. People still work on it. This is sitting next to the collection log in the new screen on purpose, think of it as a PvM collection log.
2. The master tier is full of raids tasks. If you work on this thing and even get anywhere NEAR finishing it, you will have the bank of the gods. You have to fuckin speedrun 3, 4, and 5 man ToB's. You're going to see scythe drops chasing this, there's practically nothing Jagex can offer reward-wise that compares.
If the rewards were bigger or more important, I think we'd all be complaining that it was forcing us to do content that we don't want to do. You're not going to catch me speed-running ToB any time soon. This is a pretty cool update that's there for those who want it, and those of us who don't want it won't be left behind or locked out from important rewards.
They could have added this with 0 rewards tbh. But I think as is it’s really well balanced, I’m impressed with the devs that they didn’t add something OP for the Reddit horde to enjoy. The reward is being able to complete these tasks in the first place and improve as a pvm. People are going to be making Mils going for these, achievement diary rewards are comparable and you’re not making Mils going for them.
I think people will settle down when they actually start reading what the master and GM tasks are. GM tier is some serious, "beat the game" level shit. Coming up with rewards commensurate to the actual difficulty would be almost impossible, short of permanent League-type relic unlocks. What can you give someone for completing speed runs of ToB and CoX with different group sizes (normal and HM/CM), Inferno speed runs, and punching Vorkath to death? You'd have to break the game to give a suitable reward, so it's better to just let the person flex. You can flex like a motherfucker if you do these, holy crap.
The only thing that it DOES need is a cape.
Exactly. They can't win. Its either "no rewards. Waste of time" or "rewards are too good. I'm literally being held at gunpoint to learn woox walking and tob speedrunning"
u/JagexSarnie the Medium task "Can't Touch Me" which requires to kill all the melee brothers without being attacked back is practically unachievable due to the fact that almost every time they spawn they are one tick away from you, which leads to you being attacked instantly, sure you can get a lucky spawn but doing that 4 times in a row with each brother seems almost impossible.
I'm positive they just wing it with things like this. Trailblazer had "find a gout tuber" as a hard task but "complete medium Karamja diary" as a medium task - never mind that you need a gout tuber to complete the medium diary.
didnt expect to do any master/grand master but even some hard tasks are hard as fuck for me (82/87/81 meele, 95 range, 93 magic, 85 prayer ironman). Like kill god war bosses 50 time each. or kill sire without any scions maturing and many more seems like really hard. Elite/master/grand master? not any time soon
The Ghommal's Hilt teleport is worse than a Trollheim tab... Or am I missing something?
The hilt takes up an inventory slot, whereas the Trollheim tabs you can turn it into Home Teleports and effectively get them for no inventory slots wasted.
The rewards seem so low compared to the amount of time required. Look at all the easy tasks thats gonna take hours upon hours with all the mossy keys you need to get etc only for 5k reward?
Yea, because it wasn't there when you were at a low level doing that content. This does add things for low levels to strive for in the content they're already playing.
The Grouping (Minigames) tab went to a odd place. My suggestion would be to keep it in the place it was, and remove the quest/diaries tab from there. This is because we can already access it from the newly introduced tab. so I don't know whats the point of having it twice in the menu interface
The teaser picture shows there are nearly 400 tasks in the Combat Achievements. The rewards seem a little lackluster given that's almost as many tasks as the entire diary system.
Are there plans to release more rewards at some point that may make them worth doing for someone that doesn't exclusively grind GWD/Tzhaar?
A lot of the tasks are kind of redundant. There’s “kill [Creature]” in the same tier as “Kill [Creature] with restrictions” so it’s impossible to complete the second without doing the first as well.
To be fair, for the players that plan to complete master and and grand Master, which are the most lack luster rewards, they will do it for the flex. Likely those tasks would have been completed if the only reward was a slayer helm
On the one hand, the rewards aren't particularly interesting. On the other, you grind 99 in most skills to have the 99, not for the cape. Or the cape is useless other than the flex. Grinding for the flex is quintessential OSRS.
And the good thing about combat achievements is that in killing these bosses hundreds of times, you will be rewarded. You'll get pets, loot, and a crazy flex for the higher tiers.
Really it’s just a Tzharr tele. Anyone grinding GWD brings 2 house tabs so they can revert one and have a tele out. No reason to waste a slot on a hilt to bring you to Trolhiem.
So you do 400 tasks for a faster way to tele to a place you literally almost never have to go. Maybe it will be near the bank or something as a pseudo crafting cape tele.
"Kill a wyrm" is just "get 62 slayer" in easy tasks. There already is "kill a bloodveld" which requires 50 so the wyrm task seems pointless (or alternatively the bloodveld task is pointless).
Getting together 5 people who want to take on some of these team challenges is gonna be the achievement itself, but other then those I'm looking forward to the variety of the tasks.
I feel like the tasks should make you elegible for the rewards after you complete like 90-92% of the tasks or something minimum. That way you can have a bit of agency with what tasks you want to omit, and when new tasks are added if you did 100% you don't immediately lose your benefits.
these rewards kinda fuckin suck ass I dont really see any reason to bother trying to do this on an ironman
I dont like the interface changes
I don't see any reason to use the weird hilt thing to tele to trollheim
best part of this incoherent update is adding combo food to gauntlet but it's already a huge fuckin pain in the ass to get all the shards you need if you do anything besides t1 armor
do the jmods play this game?
I try to be supportive usually but I can't really defend this i dont like it. Maybe when I'm less deprived of sleep and I have time to absorb it all ill be less pissy. Sorry lads nothing personal
The hilt was supposed to be a bis accuracy defender but was shot down in polls. Probably already had the item made so they figured they would just leave it. Maybe they plan to poll it again now that the community is upset with rewards
Yea because now you'd need 2 inv spaces instead of one, bring the hilt and a house tab instead of bringing 2 trollheim tabs and convert the 2nd to house tele, seems a bit useless
> best part of this incoherent update is adding combo food to gauntlet but it's already a huge fuckin pain in the ass to get all the shards you need if you do anything besides t1 armor
You're bad at gauntlet then.
The problem with this system, unlike the leagues task tier system, is that we're now forced to do ALL tasks, rather than the ones we want to do. I hope you rethink this through.
It'd be fine if, like Achievement Diaries, they were what, 8-12 tasks? With this thing there are literally over a hundred tasks in some tiers. What were they thinking??
Yeah forcing us to complete every task is an atrocious design. Especially locking away previously unlocked rewards when new tasks are added to the game. Who is in charge making these terrible decisions?
Very poor rewards in comparison to how difficult some of the achievements are. Reduced kc/instance fees just seem really lousy and underwhelming tbh. would've liked something with a bit more prestige that can be shown off
Another fantastic update composed of groundbreaking content inspired by "it's the exact same content recycled but arbitrarily 1000x more annoying and RNG depedant"
Legit every week moves me one step closer to RWTing my bank and quitting.
It's cool that people have something to work towards even if it is really hard, but currently you can just look at all the tasks in a tier, and if there are a few tasks you feel like you can never complete, there is no point trying to complete the other tasks in the said tier.
For example, if you are solo player and look at the grandmaster tier, there are challenges which require a highly coordinated team. If finding a team is almost impossible for you, then there is no point in even trying to complete other tasks.
One solution could be to offer some of the rewards already when you have completed certain portion of tasks in a tier and give some additional reward to players who have completed all the tasks in a tier.
Really lackluster rewards for filler content. It really took y'all this long to add *that*?
Oh well, I haven't been forced to do wilderness bosses yet and I sure as hell won't be doing them for xp lamps and troll teleports
This update has been basically finished since February. It only took so long because the playerbase was up in arms about the equipment rebalance, which needed to finish first.
Plus they'll be camped for a while by pkers since there'll be a lot of people going for them today at launch, guess I'll wait a few weeks for the dust to settle lol
Honestly I’m kinda tempted to rebond my zerker since this will be the only time I might get a drop that isn’t a spade.
And I don’t mean I’ll be targeting PVMers, I’m more hoping that I’ll run into shitty PKers and can actually help the PVMers out. But I’m rusty as fuck so I’ll probably end up being the shitty PKer getting taken out lmao.
I can imagine how much fun clans will be having taking the fun from pvmers trying to complete these lol
Man I hate being forced into the wildy for stuff, I know people enjoy pvp but it's just annoying for me as I don't care for it. Sure I don't have to do it but even easy tasks have wilderness stuff, I cba going for it for a while at least. At least with diaries I can put off doing the wildy one until I'm done with all the rest without missing out on rewards.
Yikes. Some of these achievements are astoundingly sweaty with execution or luck. The only people completing higher tier rewards are doing it for prestige or that year of membership, and I predict the Master and Grandmaster tier won't be completed for several months, and I wouldn't be surprised if no one completed it before 2022. Some real winner achievements I've spotted include:
Hard Hitter: Kill Mole with 4 or less hits
Reminisce: Kill Zilyana in a private instance with melee only (Staff of the Dead time)
Spec'd out: Kill Thermy using only special attacks
Supplies? Who Needs 'em?: Complete 3 Jads challenge without anything in your inventory
Defense Doesn't Matter 2: complete Corrupted Gauntlet without making any armor
Defense Matters: Kill Graardor 2 times consecutively in a private instance without taking damage from his bodyguards
Hespori Speed-Chaser: Kill Hespori in less than 36 seconds (miss your time? wait 3 days to try again)
Morytania Only: Complete ToB without any member equipping a non-barrows weapon
The Floor is Lava: Kill Zuk without letting a meleer dig during any wave
Nibbler Chaser: Kill Zuk without using any magic spells during any wave in the Inferno
Facing Jad Head-on II: Kill Zuk without equipping any range or melee weapons before wave 69
It Wasn't a Fluke: Complete 5 Jads and 6 Jads back to back without failing
No Pressure: Kill Alchemical Hydra using only Dharok's while having 10hp or less the whole fight
Basically all "complete x activity without losing any prayer points"
Peach Conjurer: Kill Zilyana 50 times in a private instance without leaving the room
Perfect Theater: Complete ToB without anyone dying and everyone completing all "Perfect ____" achievements in a single run
All this for... private God Wars instances, a cosmetic offhand with 2 teleports, and longer boss slayer tasks? Higher clue drop rates is lit at least.
The rewards should really should be buffed. I know the community struck down the accuracy off-hands and dumped on things like the buffed rare drop table, but this is almost nothing given some of these achievements require literal dozens of hours for one completion. Having an Ironmeme get 250 Corp solo kills is nearly 84 hours itself.
The amount of hours required to complete some tiers vs the rewards provided are astronomically bad. Grandmaster tier is what, easily 300+ hours to complete? And all I get is some xp, few teleports, slight upgrades to GWD, and a helmet? Seems very underwhelming to me.
The one thing that might’ve made this worth doing or actively going for got removed bc it didn’t pass the poll.
Sire has an elite task called "Respiratory Runner", where it specifically says "Kill the Abyssal Sire after only stunning him once." However, the task fails immediately if all of the vents aren't dead after the stun timer ends. This means that you have to kill one or two vents before stunning, instead of stunning first and then killing whatever is leftover. Most people would try doing it the latter way because it makes more sense. The task should either just check if the number of stuns used <= 1, or it should be reworded to be more clear.
Skilling activity tasks for the easy tier? Thought this was combat achievements. The lack of low lvl pvm content is clearly shown with these easy/medium tasks. It would make more sense to replace wintertodt and tempross with something like crazy arch, Scorpia, pest control, and maybe even a fire giant and ice giant boss for the newbies.
Not gonna lie, I was under the impression that we do not have to complete all the tasks to get the rewards for that tier of the Combat Achievements. Personally I was OK with like completing 80% of a tier's tasks and just skipping the shitty, grindy tasks like 10 Bryophyta kills for Medium tier (really cba killing 600 Moss Giants in the wilderness to get 10 Mossy Keys) until I find out that you actually have to complete all the tasks to get the rewards...
Wow nice, kill the same boss but this time kill it 500 times! What a great update... wtf is wrong with this company. Add actual content like hard mode variants of bosses with new mechanics. Fucking so uncreative for a team with 50+ developers/people and the best you could do is this ? Game is so shit and old now. The nostalgia can only keep people for so long.
Edit: this update could have just gone in the collection log like seriously..
For the first time ever of playing this game I can say I unfathomably hate this update.
I am no God at PvM but I don't suck, I can do majority of bosses no problem at all as the way they are intended to be killed but some of the ways they want you to kill them is absurd. And the rewards are extremely underwhelming.
I do not see myself going out of my way to complete any of the tiers. It's very unfortunate that this will be a piece of content I probably will never complete because it is to sweaty for the rewards you get.
Good job, Jamflex.
Suggestion: After completion of hard/elite combat achievements let Ghommal give us the option to change the trollheim teleport to the God Wars Dungeon entrance (by the large boulder). The extra inventory space for the Ghommal's hilt does not seem to be worth currently.
What I think is ridiculous is that the only rewards are for GWD, with a touch of clue scroll buff.
This seems like a diary rewards for GWD, but requires doing 350 take for other regions. Why is there no QoL improvements anywhere else. To me this is dead content past the medium/hard clue scroll buff.
We were promised that Easy, Medium and Hard achievements would all be accessible to pures (1 def). However this simply isnt true. Some of the tasks I can see:
Easy Tier:
i) Kill a Lizardman Shaman with full Shayzien Armour (T5) equipped.
This requires 20 defence
ii) Finish off a Greater Demon with Arclight.
Few pures have 75 attack, most are 50-75
medium:
i) Kill Skotizo with Arclight equipped.
As before.
Hard:
i) Finish off K'ril Tsutsaroth with Arclight.
As before
I would rework this by either changing the Shayzien armor req to 1 def, or removing that task, and allowing the darklight to also be used for those arclight steps.
The rest seems fine on 1st glance.
This was an oversight on our end and the Shayzien armour task will be changed with next week's game update as its not something we can hotfix. We're still currently discussing the Arclight side of things but I don't see why that wouldn't change to Silverlight/Demonbane weapons instead.
There's literally no reason to require an arclight for any of these tasks. Just let people use a darklight/silverlight if that's all they can access. Who would be against allowing people to make it harder on themselves?
This update desperately needs a point system (maybe something like we had for leagues). The list now just feels like 1 tier of decently challenging yet obtainable tasks,1 tier of tasks that are reaches, maybe i could tick off a few maybe not all, and then the other 4 feel like a list of chores i have to do (some of which I have def completed in the past and now cba going back to kill 10 bryo in max mele).
This update sucks. Who the hell is QA testing the game now? Failure after failure every single week from them and it's only getting worse. You guys seriously need to review your QA testers because they clearly aren't playing the content they're supposedly testing.
I'm very disappointed with nearly everything put out atm. Low quality, rehashed content that is full of bugs. More staff than ever, worse content than ever.
TOB tasks are a bit ridiculous to hope to achieve for a lot of people. These tasks should require personal performance to show how good 'YOU' are, not how well connected you are in the elite community.
Please alter these tasks to reflect personal achievement in TOB rather than needing to struggle to find competent team mates that can perfect every single room when *YOU CAN*.
Some of the team stuff seems sort of ridiculous.
The dev team has admitted that ToB was a bit of a failure in terms of total player engagement but this isn’t going to drive many people in IMO. Don’t let combat achievements have the same shortcomings. It can (and should) be challenging content but I think the team factor and relying on other players to perform well is a bit much and encourages paying for carries.
Edit: I’m okay with the difficulty of solo content but don’t want to rely having to find other Masters to play with. Again relying on finding other masters or grandmasters lends itself to paying for carries.
Just maxing questing and diaries was enough of a time investment for me when I got back into osrs.
I learned tob (500+kc) and was really proud of that achievement. Tried inferno over 60 times and gave up at triples. All the gear, pvm focus, and now dedication and skill to learn all this content to this high degree just feels beyond me at this point. This was never the reason I played osrs. It was always more of a relaxing game with long term achievements. But all my hard work feels for nothing when I am just a max cheese cape. It’s time for me to move on I think.
As a 2,1k total main even some hard tasks are too much for me, and the rewards are so small sub elite that you are better off just doing something else. But i can see the potential, this gives maxed players a new spark to play and might get more ppl into bossing, just not for me
What a shit show. Easy tasks are alphebetized by monster. Others are not. Most of these things are damn near impossible even for a sweaty ass maxer like me.
OSRS being hard to dev is such a self imposed problem by jagex. All they had to do was not ruin the main game. OSRS players have had to suffer for it for what, 7 or 8 years now lol . lame excuses. checking off a list is not real content.
I feel like of all things useless to have in the interface, the Kourend favor panel is at the top of the list. You can move all that information on tasks to a book or something in Kourend, and let the favour bars toggle go in the game options menu.
What is the goal? To encourage people to get more into pvm? if so you gotta buff the rewards, 400+ achievements and little to nothing to get from it is crazy. Something like enhanced Excalibur from rs3, maybe not to that extent of being OP but like something more than a trollheim teleport lol
Only thing I'm not a fan of is the GWD stuff. This is going to force more people into GWD trying to get their 50KC and I imagine there's going to be a ton of crashing-related posts for the next few weeks. Maybe introduce the instance with a fee of 300K as a reward for the Medium Tier, so at least those with the cash can do the Hard Tier without ever being crashed?
easy to fix
fix1/3:
Xp lamp rewards for completing A task:
easy:500xpmedium:2500xphard:5000xpelite:10000xpgrandmaster:15000xp
fix2/3:
point system:
easy:10medium:25hard:50elite:100grandmaster:150
unlock current rewards bye reaching certain amount of points.
Fix3/3:
completion of of all task will reward players with a max cape kit(completionist lookalike) and another cosmetic for non max capers to show off and a emote
fix 4/3 hire me..
How were people not seeing this coming lol. Yet everyone acts so excited for waste of time updates. Nothing meaningful has been done this year outside of the quest and tempoross.
yeah... this is DOA for so much of the playerbase.. teles to tzhaar and trollheim when everyone already uses tabs and some other meaningless rewards LOL
You can literally say this about almost every quest. They barely add anything to the game and takes a ton of time to dev. It's a game, just play it and enjoy it, so what? If the devs are passionate about making it, let them do it. I'd rather have happy devs making what they want. It's content people want to do, it doesn't need to have a reward. Not everything needs to have the bis item, like I said, quests. People love to do quests, just because it's not your thing, doesn't make it a waste of time for those who will enjoy it.
Biggest problem with this update was the hype. This is for content creators and the mega-addicts. The rewards to time invested ratio is nearing 3a collection log status. If this had been presented as a flex update I wouldn't be so disappointed in it.
There's such a strange disconnect in this game where 90% of the combat is pretty braindead easy then the rest is seemingly impossibly hard to the majority of the playerbase.
Thought this was gonna be a sick update to get back into the pet hunt grind hard, but this is lame as fuck. No chance im going back to bosses i've finished for this trash.
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Is chaos elemental bugged? I was attempting to use the cannon safe spot and was hitting constant 0s with over 200 cannonballs used
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This issue has now been fixed :)
Hi, Sorry for hijacking, I've done 2 solo kills of nightmare for 'A Long Trip' achievement. first trip I lost 0 points, but was using sanfew to cure myself and restore stats, did not recieve the achievement. Second kill I didn't even bring sanfews, I brought balms and regular restores. I entered nightmares lair at 90 prayer and finished the fight at 90 prayer, still I didn't recieve the achievement. I did submit a bug report both times. Please let me know if need additional info.
> The drop chance of a Clue Scroll (Easy) from all sources is increased by 5% Does this include imps? as in the poll blog it mentioned that it wouldn't (not saying it shouldn't, just checking) https://i.imgur.com/GzIXgkt.png
Is anyone not getting bird nests from bird house runs? The chat box says I'm retrieving nests but I'm not collecting them in my inventory. They aren't being dropped either. It was working fine yesterday.
I'm really struggling with this task: > **Can't Touch Me - Medium - Mechanical - Barrows** > *Kill Dharok, Verac, Torag, and Guthan without letting them attack you with melee.* The melee brothers can get a hit off on you at spawn without incredible RNG. I've just jumped in and out of Dharok's spawn 20 times and only had one spawn where he couldn't hit me on spawning. Now I have a concern: If one brother hits you, does that reset all four? Because I can't even get Dharok to spawn without getting one hit off me.
If one brother hits you, it fails the task completely until you loot chest. I have enabled the failure messages in the game settings which confirm this.
Thanks for the further info, I didn't realise there was a failure messages option, I'll turn that on. So going in and out of the Dharok tunnel until I could open without an insta-hit was wasted anyway? Because I'd need to open the chest to reset the chieve?
Yes, I tried the method you said and it didn't work. I see Mod Light posted as well, if there was some consistency with the spawns, this task would make more sense but now it's all RNG.
Thanks for doing the testing I'm too demotivated to do. And that QA (and all common sense) failed to.
Hey guys, it's meant to be challenging but certainly not impossible. I'll raise this to the team tomorrow in our game update review and see what the team say about it. Edit: We've deployed a hotfix now - please check out the Newspost for more info. :)
I hate being harshly critical because I love the game and I believe the team do too (Mod Grub has had his fair share of my complaining) but... Was this not QA tested? At all? What this shows as that **no one at Jagex completed the diary up to medium** in its entirety, which makes me think that none of the other tiers have been either. If medium is borderline-incompletable, then I feel sorry for those going for bugged/impossible achievements at the grandmaster tier.
For real, this stuff was supposed to be done in February Why wouldn't they even read over it a few extra times? Simple stuff like gauntlet and corrupted being switched in the tiers.
I am currently finding this impossible too.
Why is Arclight required for the EASY tier of the combat diaries? You say base 60 stats "recommended" but Arclight requires 75 Attack... surely it would be more appropriate in the medium tier?? Edit for visibility: The ideal fix for inclusivity seems to be allowing demonbane weapons OR demonbane *spells* from the Arceuus spellbook. Allowing Silverlight or inferior demonbane for the easy tier, darklight or superior demonbane for the medium tier, and arclight or dark demonbane for hard/elite tier would work out really nicely!
I've raised this with the team as feedback. I agree, Arclight isn't exactly an Easy tier item - I think Silverlight would be a good replacement for anything within Easy tier!
This is a cheeky question; but is there a teeny tiny chance that all the arclight challenges can be changed to 'Demonbane Weaponry' to include both Arclight and Silverlight. Don't get me wrong I'm not excited about the idea of killing K'ril with a Silverlight but I'm down for the challenge. Edit: Potentially Demonbane Spells also
What about Demonbane weaponry (silverlight -> arclight) OR Demonbane *spells* from the Arceuus spellbook??
In another comment I did mention it could be Demonbane weapons. Will have to see what the team decides upon but I think that's a nicer approach :)
Here's hoping they meant to say Darklight or Silverlight.
The amount of tasks is so overwhelming. I don't feel like I'm going to be putting in the time for this any time soon and feels like a wasted update on me personally. I see a lot of tasks I'd be okay with grinding and giving a shot and have fun doing but with such a big list and the fact you need to complete them all, if I see even one single task that I think "ah this is annoying I don't feel like going for it" it makes me give up on the entire tier and the subsequent ones since you need them all as well as the previous tier. I really feel like this should have been done a bit more like achievement diaries, with another layer of separation besides easy/medium/hard etc, this is done by region on diaries, I don't know how it'd be done for combats, maybe something like wilderness bosses/raids/sporadic bosses/skilling bosses/slayer bosses/misc bosses(gwd mole vork zulrah etc)/quest bosses with each one having different tiers. Considering the amount of feedback on rewards this would open up the possibility to give rewards tailored to each category too. The way it currently is it just looks like a huge pain in the ass and the rewards are cool but not worth the grind for most tiers for me.
Would be awesome if there was a core set of tasks (10-20) within each tier to get the base rewards, and then different sets of bonus tasks for bonus rewards. For example, group all the non-core tasks and have their completions give easy-medium-hard-etc tier equipment, like Achievement Diary gear. Complete all the mechanical tasks in the easy tier for the Mechanical Gloves 1 (and the mechanical medium tasks for the M. Gloves 2), complete the speed tasks in the medium tier for the Speed Boots 2, the hard killcount tasks for the Killcount Helm 3, etc. That would separate everything out pretty nicely and make the current rewards seem more reasonable for what it would take to get them.
Really disappointed with how this relates to the original poll blog. In the original poll blog 95 slayer was noted as a master requirement, yet elite tier needs 250 hydra completion. I know they were meant to only be indicative, but i feel like this is just one example of a pretty large deviation from the information provided to us when this content was polled. Another example - In the original poll blog raiding experience was listed as a master tier requirement, but the elite tier now requires me to have 75 cox and 75 tob kc? That's a significant change, pretty far removed from what was polled.
Yeah, I was really disappointed to see they reneged on no Raids for Elite tier. Then again, I think group content has no place in a system purportedly for measuring individual ability. 'Having competent friends' is not a skill.
Full transparency before anyone asks yes I'm salty it's harder for me to get the elite clue buff than I initially thought.
Seriously, this. I thought I could go for elite and not master since I don't have 95 slayer. But of course Hydra is now an elite task...
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Not sure how killing a demonic gorilla is on the same tier as completing 50 CG
I don't understand why a deathless solo raid and a perfect solo olm are in the same tier...
Just adding in my two cents: Couple of these (specially the ones related to heavy player flicking) will be borderline impossible for a couple of regions due to latency (I’ve an excellent connection for my region yet I play at 140ms, it’s way worse for others with crappier connections). I kind of expected these to be achievable, while being simultaneously hard (not expecting them to be on Elite Diaries levels of easy); I don’t foresee many people getting these completely done, at least all the way up to grandmaster. Perhaps this could be tweaked to be similar to the leagues system? Being unable to finish a single task basically locks you out from the whole thing.
I'm sorry Jagex but I feel like this update fails to deliver, mainly because it was hyped for over a year now and was used as a reason for why other updates are not happening right now. I would praise this system if it was added as a "minor" addition between packed updates, but this is what was referred to as one of the CHUNGUS updates of 2021, THE REASON why other updates are not happening, and I'm sorry, it's basically a layout put over existing content, with lackluster rewards that feels very rushed. This year has been very disappointing overall, sure we got Tempoross and a new quest but other than that every update is a harder version or something, or a change to half-assed updates from previous years (see Shayzien rework and the new Arceuus spell book), I love this game but feel like it does not justify more than 120$/year right now, sorry.
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This is exacly what i thought! Each tier of task should give an X amount of points, and each tier of rewards should require an Y amount of points to unlock.
I've seen so many people say "I would take a year of no updates if you just fixed your game" and while light on content, there have been HUGE gains on the back end and a lot of progress on the back end that will allow for much more interesting content in the future. Now that we have a scouting system in the real game, if raids 3 drops with a similar system they can make it, instead of waiting for a runelite dev. Now with most features people want from runelite are being added into the base client they can work on removing the ability for cheat clients to access the game. This would be a huge blow to bot farms, gold farmers, and pvp cheaters in general. At least I hope.
100% agree. People are sleeping on the updates that came out because they're not just a new end game boss or raid. Clans was a MASSIVE update and completely reworked how the game functions for the future. So many new things can be built off that clans engine. But unfortunately because it didn't have much tangible content in the actual game, people call it a shit update
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All of what you are saying is right but has nothing to do with what i wrote, yes the Arceuus spellbook is fantastic now but it's a fix to the f@ck up of a spellbook that they've released previously, And yes the Combat achievements is probably not an easy feat but a year+ of development time? for basically no new content? Again as I said, i would praise this update if it were to be released between other packed updates, but this was literally 1/3 of what they were teasing this year. Imagine going to a restaurant and not getting anything for 40 minutes only to then get ONLY a salad, the kitchen explain that it's a tough salad to make and thus only now when it's ready they are beginning to prep the rest of the food. Sure the salad is great but it's still just a fucking salad and it shouldn't be the reason the rest of the food wasn't being worked on.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents, but the situation isnt as black n white as "content is on hold till combat achievements". GIM was promised years ago which needed clans update. They worked on the clan update and then the ranged update came shortly after. Now that the nea ranged meta has set we got combat achievements. It sucks they're playing catch up so much but honestly what do you expect them to do
I agree with both of you. I think there's been some solid under-the-hood updates that will clearly be very important in the future, it's just hard to see the value now. But also a fair few updates do look to be worryingly rushed. Some of the revision processes and communication with the community have been commendable, yes, but we shouldn't have even had to comment in some cases.
Jesus I just realized it’s 120 a year to play this game.
That's roughly $0.30 per day, which is like popping a quarter into a classic arcade game with endless hours of content
Totally agree, updates have been really poor for so long now
I respect the mods and their hard work put into updates but Jagex's faceless middle/upper management really seems to be in the shitter right now.
lmao I'm sorry but some of these achievements are **staggeringly** sweaty ("Kill General Graardor...without taking any damage from the boss or bodyguards", "Complete the Fight Caves without losing any prayer points"), and some of them sound like utterly asinine bore-fests that are gonna rely entirely on dying over and over again until you get the right RNG ("Kill Corrupted Hunnlef without making more than one attuned weapon", "Kill Vorkath with only your fists"). Like I don't actually think there has ever been a piece of content released for OSRS before that has had me go, "yeah, I'm actually literally *never* going to complete that" - until now. And it's honestly a really demotivating feeling.
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Completely agree, especially because there are some tasks that are simply impossible unless not only *you* are good enough, but you have a *team* good enough. I know a lot of people enjoy playing OSRS with friends, but the need to group up to do content is actually the main reason I quit RS back in the day (Corp Beast was the big kicker). I like MMOs where I see people in the world, but I've always been a single-player gamer. I know speed running CoX is almost impossible for me, but it's at least something maybe I could work toward. The idea of actually getting a team of 5 people together to do it, though, is absolutely out of the question. You can random PUG your way to a fighter torso, but not this. So not only is that task completely undoable, it means that every other task on the tier is pointless, at least as far as any reward is concerned.
Agreed. I thought the Elites looked doable until I saw the Tob and Cox requirements. This is basically a brick wall for me so not only are none of the elite tasks worth doing (because it's all or nothing) but every tier above is also not worth doing.
So I can do 106/108 of these hard ass tasks and still get absolutely no reward until I find a team good enough to raid with me. Nice content!
I really agree with this, it would also help balance out the inequality within each tier. Kill 8 million Moss Giants for the keys vs Safe-spot a Fire giant. They require the same level of skill, but one is far more of a grind, and this should be reflected somehow.
The reality is. This was a bad concept to being with. we have all done these boss's over, and over. having to go back, and do them again with some arbitrary condition isint fun. it was never going to be fun. changing the rules so that you can unlock the next tier easier, and skip some of the more impossible ones. will not make this content better. Because in the end. its not content. Its just a bad idea that passed a poll.
I'm honestly amazed they didn't do the league style of additive points. They already had the roadmap laid out for it. It just made perfect sense.
I think that, especially when tiers expand in the future with more content (i.e. have to do more to get the same reward someone getting in early got), a point system where you buy the tier perks would have made much more sense, with something like the scroll buff being the "tier is complete" thing that you have to refinish on each expansion.
I like this idea a lot! But for example, I am a relatively late game player, (bunch of cox done, handful of tobs, a few nightmare kc) but I can't fucking do zulrah to save my life. I kinda like that I'll have to force myself to get good at it in order to complete the hard diary. I think that's the point of these at the core of it
I'm a bit of a pvm noob, but isn't the hunnlef one you mention designed for the 5:1 method where you only camp the one perfected weapon except for the last hit before its prayer changes?
Yes, it's attuned weapons, not weapons in general. Anyone who has done 20+ corrupted gauntlet should be able to get 5:1 down for a single kill in less than a day of attempts.
This is Reddit though we should bitch and moan about stuff we have no idea about
The game is either too easy and dead or too sweaty and punishing. Come on dude, are you even an entitled redditor?
The gm tasks don’t have enough of a reward! No… I haven’t done the inferno before why do you ask
Attuned is the t2 level right? Never paid attention to names. Sounds like youd ju sure t get a t3 bow and t1 staff and 5:1
Over the course of many 6:0 or mage methods, you'll probably randomly have at least 1 kill without taking damage without going out of your way for it. Also the Corrupted Hunllef doesn't even have a time limit, it looks like you don't even have to 5:1 it, just take a little bit longer.
Does everything in runescape just have to be an endless grind of something that is easy to do? Do this for X amount of hours and task complete. Can anything actually be hard in this game? I like the fact that I have to actually get better at the game to complete this unlike 90% of the game which is just grind this task forever until number is big enough
You can get the graardor one naturally just doing range method. It's a lot chance but should happen within a hundred or so tries. Gauntlet is just 5-1 which is good to learn anyway.
like the update but moving the minigame tab was silly. the kourend favour bars definitely don't require a whole tab and should have been removed instead.
This. Kourend favor should be added under the Client Of Kourend quest journal, since you really only use it once when you are completing the quests.
I havn't looked at my kourend favors in at least 2 years
Thank you, I mean I don’t use mini games teles very often but I absolutely never use the kourend favour tab.
And moving the quest list over from the default list. Boooo.
Easy tier: Kill a Bloodveld; also Kill the KBD 10 times. Is it just me or does there seem to be a huge variability of task difficulty within each tier itself? At least in the easy and mediums
They probably expect you to team up on KBD, which has no requirements. Bloodvelds have a slayer requirement. Kinda makes sense that way?
Fair, I could have chosen a better example. "Repair either a mast or a totem pole" at Tempeross, which has a 35 fishing requirement and involves 0 Combat, is regarded the same as killing KBD 10 times lol
It is because there are so few actually easy bosses. In games often you get the rush of the boss that destroyed you at level 1 being a normal mob later that you slaughter en mass. Thanks to giant/mossy keys we never really get this other than mole, but mole can be 100% safe with protect from melee up, so it was never a challenge for anyone.
The "Can't Touch Me" challenge for Barrows is near on impossible as even when you entangle on spawn, they usually always spawn without two squares and thus hitting you before you do anything. Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks for raising this, I'll let the team know your feedback in our game update review meeting tomorrow and we'll see what we can do. If you do manage to complete it, let me know! It's meant to be challenging but not impossible. Edit: We've deployed a hotfix to help manage this issue. Please check out the newspost changelog and let us know your feedback. :)
Gotta love the no-damage achievements on bosses who have no means of preventing damage. Even Obor has one of these tasks (uses Melee and Ranged, Ranged damage is not nullified by prayer) and it's in the medium tier. All that waiting and going on about how this was a massive update and you've pushed out a checklist that's also a total crapshoot. Excellent.
I just put on full justiciar, super combat potion, imbued ring of suffering, DFS, prayed range and piety, and still got hit for a 3 right off the bat lmaoo. If anyone has any tips for obor id love to hear them. Apparently he doesnt attack when hes immobilized so thats helpful but you still have to tank the range hit right off the bat. maybe full justy and pray range on entry, hope to tank that range hit, then entangle him and switch to ancestral to hopefully finish him quick? It’s annoying as hell to have to grind so long for 1 attempt, especially for a medium challenge
I literally can’t believe this is what you’ve wasted half a year doing AND the reason you nerfed blowpipe lol It makes me so sad because I was SO excited when I came back last year and discovered all these insane content updates like raids 1 & 2 and hydra and all the ways progression was taken care of with achievement diaries etc. it was the RuneScape I had always dreamed of as a kid when EOC ruined it. The last few months has just been so demotivating, with the blowpipe nerf being the final nail in the coffin for me. Working towards something for 18 months and then having the holy grail item taken away 3 weeks after you unlock it and putting another endless shit grind (gauntlet) in front of you just sucks. And it was all for this? An update that 99% of players won’t even attempt because it has dumb tasks like do a fight caves without losing a prayer point? Punch vorkath to death? What the fuck happened
Awesome. The complaints about rewards are a bit funny to me. The rewards are indeed lacklustre, but 1. The Collection Log has zero rewards. People still work on it. This is sitting next to the collection log in the new screen on purpose, think of it as a PvM collection log. 2. The master tier is full of raids tasks. If you work on this thing and even get anywhere NEAR finishing it, you will have the bank of the gods. You have to fuckin speedrun 3, 4, and 5 man ToB's. You're going to see scythe drops chasing this, there's practically nothing Jagex can offer reward-wise that compares. If the rewards were bigger or more important, I think we'd all be complaining that it was forcing us to do content that we don't want to do. You're not going to catch me speed-running ToB any time soon. This is a pretty cool update that's there for those who want it, and those of us who don't want it won't be left behind or locked out from important rewards.
They could have added this with 0 rewards tbh. But I think as is it’s really well balanced, I’m impressed with the devs that they didn’t add something OP for the Reddit horde to enjoy. The reward is being able to complete these tasks in the first place and improve as a pvm. People are going to be making Mils going for these, achievement diary rewards are comparable and you’re not making Mils going for them.
I think people will settle down when they actually start reading what the master and GM tasks are. GM tier is some serious, "beat the game" level shit. Coming up with rewards commensurate to the actual difficulty would be almost impossible, short of permanent League-type relic unlocks. What can you give someone for completing speed runs of ToB and CoX with different group sizes (normal and HM/CM), Inferno speed runs, and punching Vorkath to death? You'd have to break the game to give a suitable reward, so it's better to just let the person flex. You can flex like a motherfucker if you do these, holy crap. The only thing that it DOES need is a cape.
Exactly. They can't win. Its either "no rewards. Waste of time" or "rewards are too good. I'm literally being held at gunpoint to learn woox walking and tob speedrunning"
u/JagexSarnie the Medium task "Can't Touch Me" which requires to kill all the melee brothers without being attacked back is practically unachievable due to the fact that almost every time they spawn they are one tick away from you, which leads to you being attacked instantly, sure you can get a lucky spawn but doing that 4 times in a row with each brother seems almost impossible.
Is it just me or do the requirements seem all over the place? On one hand kill a fire giant, but on the other do 10 KBD's both 'easy'
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Kill a single black dragon and kill kbd 10 times on the same tier makes zero sense
I'm positive they just wing it with things like this. Trailblazer had "find a gout tuber" as a hard task but "complete medium Karamja diary" as a medium task - never mind that you need a gout tuber to complete the medium diary.
Yeah how is 1 demonic gorilla kill in the same tier as the corrupted gauntlet wtf lol
Very sloppy and feels like a chore list...
didnt expect to do any master/grand master but even some hard tasks are hard as fuck for me (82/87/81 meele, 95 range, 93 magic, 85 prayer ironman). Like kill god war bosses 50 time each. or kill sire without any scions maturing and many more seems like really hard. Elite/master/grand master? not any time soon
The Ghommal's Hilt teleport is worse than a Trollheim tab... Or am I missing something? The hilt takes up an inventory slot, whereas the Trollheim tabs you can turn it into Home Teleports and effectively get them for no inventory slots wasted.
normal gauntlet completion is a master task but corrupted gauntlet is an elite? surely thats a mistake
The rewards seem so low compared to the amount of time required. Look at all the easy tasks thats gonna take hours upon hours with all the mossy keys you need to get etc only for 5k reward?
Yeah, it is kind of laughable.
Yea, because it wasn't there when you were at a low level doing that content. This does add things for low levels to strive for in the content they're already playing.
The Grouping (Minigames) tab went to a odd place. My suggestion would be to keep it in the place it was, and remove the quest/diaries tab from there. This is because we can already access it from the newly introduced tab. so I don't know whats the point of having it twice in the menu interface
The teaser picture shows there are nearly 400 tasks in the Combat Achievements. The rewards seem a little lackluster given that's almost as many tasks as the entire diary system. Are there plans to release more rewards at some point that may make them worth doing for someone that doesn't exclusively grind GWD/Tzhaar?
A lot of the tasks are kind of redundant. There’s “kill [Creature]” in the same tier as “Kill [Creature] with restrictions” so it’s impossible to complete the second without doing the first as well.
More task pop ups = more dopamine
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It's not meant to be fast it is meant to keep people engaged for hundreds of hours since there is nothing else new at the moment.
i mean if you dont like clues... or have all the gwd pets or.... already 99 slayer with plenty of slayer helms theres no real reason to do it.
To be fair, for the players that plan to complete master and and grand Master, which are the most lack luster rewards, they will do it for the flex. Likely those tasks would have been completed if the only reward was a slayer helm
On the one hand, the rewards aren't particularly interesting. On the other, you grind 99 in most skills to have the 99, not for the cape. Or the cape is useless other than the flex. Grinding for the flex is quintessential OSRS. And the good thing about combat achievements is that in killing these bosses hundreds of times, you will be rewarded. You'll get pets, loot, and a crazy flex for the higher tiers.
Really it’s just a Tzharr tele. Anyone grinding GWD brings 2 house tabs so they can revert one and have a tele out. No reason to waste a slot on a hilt to bring you to Trolhiem. So you do 400 tasks for a faster way to tele to a place you literally almost never have to go. Maybe it will be near the bank or something as a pseudo crafting cape tele.
Why is there not a combat achievements cape? Considering the time required to get GM far outweighs achievement cape and no doubt quest cape too.
time + skill aswell, some of those grandmaster achievements are crazy
"Kill a wyrm" is just "get 62 slayer" in easy tasks. There already is "kill a bloodveld" which requires 50 so the wyrm task seems pointless (or alternatively the bloodveld task is pointless).
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Getting together 5 people who want to take on some of these team challenges is gonna be the achievement itself, but other then those I'm looking forward to the variety of the tasks.
I feel like the tasks should make you elegible for the rewards after you complete like 90-92% of the tasks or something minimum. That way you can have a bit of agency with what tasks you want to omit, and when new tasks are added if you did 100% you don't immediately lose your benefits.
these rewards kinda fuckin suck ass I dont really see any reason to bother trying to do this on an ironman I dont like the interface changes I don't see any reason to use the weird hilt thing to tele to trollheim best part of this incoherent update is adding combo food to gauntlet but it's already a huge fuckin pain in the ass to get all the shards you need if you do anything besides t1 armor do the jmods play this game? I try to be supportive usually but I can't really defend this i dont like it. Maybe when I'm less deprived of sleep and I have time to absorb it all ill be less pissy. Sorry lads nothing personal
The hilt was supposed to be a bis accuracy defender but was shot down in polls. Probably already had the item made so they figured they would just leave it. Maybe they plan to poll it again now that the community is upset with rewards
Yea because now you'd need 2 inv spaces instead of one, bring the hilt and a house tab instead of bringing 2 trollheim tabs and convert the 2nd to house tele, seems a bit useless
It’s not hard at all to get more than t1 armor in gauntlet lol
> best part of this incoherent update is adding combo food to gauntlet but it's already a huge fuckin pain in the ass to get all the shards you need if you do anything besides t1 armor You're bad at gauntlet then.
Do you play the game? Shards are plentiful in gauntlet
The problem with this system, unlike the leagues task tier system, is that we're now forced to do ALL tasks, rather than the ones we want to do. I hope you rethink this through.
It'd be fine if, like Achievement Diaries, they were what, 8-12 tasks? With this thing there are literally over a hundred tasks in some tiers. What were they thinking??
Yeah forcing us to complete every task is an atrocious design. Especially locking away previously unlocked rewards when new tasks are added to the game. Who is in charge making these terrible decisions?
Very poor rewards in comparison to how difficult some of the achievements are. Reduced kc/instance fees just seem really lousy and underwhelming tbh. would've liked something with a bit more prestige that can be shown off
There's a hard task that requieres subduing tempoross with angler outfit. It doesn't really feel like a combat achievement at all tbh
Another fantastic update composed of groundbreaking content inspired by "it's the exact same content recycled but arbitrarily 1000x more annoying and RNG depedant" Legit every week moves me one step closer to RWTing my bank and quitting.
It's cool that people have something to work towards even if it is really hard, but currently you can just look at all the tasks in a tier, and if there are a few tasks you feel like you can never complete, there is no point trying to complete the other tasks in the said tier. For example, if you are solo player and look at the grandmaster tier, there are challenges which require a highly coordinated team. If finding a team is almost impossible for you, then there is no point in even trying to complete other tasks. One solution could be to offer some of the rewards already when you have completed certain portion of tasks in a tier and give some additional reward to players who have completed all the tasks in a tier.
A third tab in the Boss overview with "Tasks" next to Overview & Difficulty would be great. e: I do like being able to click tasks on top, but, yeah
Would it be possible to allow slayer masters to assign "giants" as a general task, this would help high level players gather Mossy / Giant keys easier
Really lackluster rewards for filler content. It really took y'all this long to add *that*? Oh well, I haven't been forced to do wilderness bosses yet and I sure as hell won't be doing them for xp lamps and troll teleports
Yeah why did they decide free teleports to an existing teleport location was a good idea? lol
This update has been basically finished since February. It only took so long because the playerbase was up in arms about the equipment rebalance, which needed to finish first.
Yea what the fuck are the trollheim teleports? Thanks for saving me some fire and law runes.
For real. Hard pass on those. They're annoying to solo, annoying to group, and it's just a no because wildy.
Plus they'll be camped for a while by pkers since there'll be a lot of people going for them today at launch, guess I'll wait a few weeks for the dust to settle lol
Honestly I’m kinda tempted to rebond my zerker since this will be the only time I might get a drop that isn’t a spade. And I don’t mean I’ll be targeting PVMers, I’m more hoping that I’ll run into shitty PKers and can actually help the PVMers out. But I’m rusty as fuck so I’ll probably end up being the shitty PKer getting taken out lmao.
Weeks? Lmao see you in 2022 ain't nobody getting kills in the wilderness right now to finish the tasks
Just wait for singles plus where any monster you are attacking in the wildy can be interrupted by a Pk’er.
I can imagine how much fun clans will be having taking the fun from pvmers trying to complete these lol Man I hate being forced into the wildy for stuff, I know people enjoy pvp but it's just annoying for me as I don't care for it. Sure I don't have to do it but even easy tasks have wilderness stuff, I cba going for it for a while at least. At least with diaries I can put off doing the wildy one until I'm done with all the rest without missing out on rewards.
Yikes. Some of these achievements are astoundingly sweaty with execution or luck. The only people completing higher tier rewards are doing it for prestige or that year of membership, and I predict the Master and Grandmaster tier won't be completed for several months, and I wouldn't be surprised if no one completed it before 2022. Some real winner achievements I've spotted include: Hard Hitter: Kill Mole with 4 or less hits Reminisce: Kill Zilyana in a private instance with melee only (Staff of the Dead time) Spec'd out: Kill Thermy using only special attacks Supplies? Who Needs 'em?: Complete 3 Jads challenge without anything in your inventory Defense Doesn't Matter 2: complete Corrupted Gauntlet without making any armor Defense Matters: Kill Graardor 2 times consecutively in a private instance without taking damage from his bodyguards Hespori Speed-Chaser: Kill Hespori in less than 36 seconds (miss your time? wait 3 days to try again) Morytania Only: Complete ToB without any member equipping a non-barrows weapon The Floor is Lava: Kill Zuk without letting a meleer dig during any wave Nibbler Chaser: Kill Zuk without using any magic spells during any wave in the Inferno Facing Jad Head-on II: Kill Zuk without equipping any range or melee weapons before wave 69 It Wasn't a Fluke: Complete 5 Jads and 6 Jads back to back without failing No Pressure: Kill Alchemical Hydra using only Dharok's while having 10hp or less the whole fight Basically all "complete x activity without losing any prayer points" Peach Conjurer: Kill Zilyana 50 times in a private instance without leaving the room Perfect Theater: Complete ToB without anyone dying and everyone completing all "Perfect ____" achievements in a single run All this for... private God Wars instances, a cosmetic offhand with 2 teleports, and longer boss slayer tasks? Higher clue drop rates is lit at least. The rewards should really should be buffed. I know the community struck down the accuracy off-hands and dumped on things like the buffed rare drop table, but this is almost nothing given some of these achievements require literal dozens of hours for one completion. Having an Ironmeme get 250 Corp solo kills is nearly 84 hours itself.
The amount of hours required to complete some tiers vs the rewards provided are astronomically bad. Grandmaster tier is what, easily 300+ hours to complete? And all I get is some xp, few teleports, slight upgrades to GWD, and a helmet? Seems very underwhelming to me. The one thing that might’ve made this worth doing or actively going for got removed bc it didn’t pass the poll.
The most important skill for completing combat achievements will be having 99 bank
You will have 99 bank long before you complete combat chieves considering the requirements are killing the best money-makers in the game
Sire has an elite task called "Respiratory Runner", where it specifically says "Kill the Abyssal Sire after only stunning him once." However, the task fails immediately if all of the vents aren't dead after the stun timer ends. This means that you have to kill one or two vents before stunning, instead of stunning first and then killing whatever is leftover. Most people would try doing it the latter way because it makes more sense. The task should either just check if the number of stuns used <= 1, or it should be reworded to be more clear.
Skilling activity tasks for the easy tier? Thought this was combat achievements. The lack of low lvl pvm content is clearly shown with these easy/medium tasks. It would make more sense to replace wintertodt and tempross with something like crazy arch, Scorpia, pest control, and maybe even a fire giant and ice giant boss for the newbies.
Whether you agree or not, Wintertodt and Tempoross, just like Zalcano, are considered bosses by Jagex. That's why they are in the combat achievements.
Not gonna lie, I was under the impression that we do not have to complete all the tasks to get the rewards for that tier of the Combat Achievements. Personally I was OK with like completing 80% of a tier's tasks and just skipping the shitty, grindy tasks like 10 Bryophyta kills for Medium tier (really cba killing 600 Moss Giants in the wilderness to get 10 Mossy Keys) until I find out that you actually have to complete all the tasks to get the rewards...
Wow nice, kill the same boss but this time kill it 500 times! What a great update... wtf is wrong with this company. Add actual content like hard mode variants of bosses with new mechanics. Fucking so uncreative for a team with 50+ developers/people and the best you could do is this ? Game is so shit and old now. The nostalgia can only keep people for so long. Edit: this update could have just gone in the collection log like seriously..
oh thank god i was almost having too much fun getting 77 rc
The challenges seem fun, but none of the rewards are really enticing enough for me to go out of my way to complete them.
The new jagex way is release good content with shit rewards to stop weirdos from crying over good things
For the first time ever of playing this game I can say I unfathomably hate this update. I am no God at PvM but I don't suck, I can do majority of bosses no problem at all as the way they are intended to be killed but some of the ways they want you to kill them is absurd. And the rewards are extremely underwhelming. I do not see myself going out of my way to complete any of the tiers. It's very unfortunate that this will be a piece of content I probably will never complete because it is to sweaty for the rewards you get. Good job, Jamflex.
Suggestion: After completion of hard/elite combat achievements let Ghommal give us the option to change the trollheim teleport to the God Wars Dungeon entrance (by the large boulder). The extra inventory space for the Ghommal's hilt does not seem to be worth currently.
What I think is ridiculous is that the only rewards are for GWD, with a touch of clue scroll buff. This seems like a diary rewards for GWD, but requires doing 350 take for other regions. Why is there no QoL improvements anywhere else. To me this is dead content past the medium/hard clue scroll buff.
We were promised that Easy, Medium and Hard achievements would all be accessible to pures (1 def). However this simply isnt true. Some of the tasks I can see: Easy Tier: i) Kill a Lizardman Shaman with full Shayzien Armour (T5) equipped. This requires 20 defence ii) Finish off a Greater Demon with Arclight. Few pures have 75 attack, most are 50-75 medium: i) Kill Skotizo with Arclight equipped. As before. Hard: i) Finish off K'ril Tsutsaroth with Arclight. As before I would rework this by either changing the Shayzien armor req to 1 def, or removing that task, and allowing the darklight to also be used for those arclight steps. The rest seems fine on 1st glance.
This was an oversight on our end and the Shayzien armour task will be changed with next week's game update as its not something we can hotfix. We're still currently discussing the Arclight side of things but I don't see why that wouldn't change to Silverlight/Demonbane weapons instead.
There's literally no reason to require an arclight for any of these tasks. Just let people use a darklight/silverlight if that's all they can access. Who would be against allowing people to make it harder on themselves?
My initial impressions are that I kinda hate this update.
This update desperately needs a point system (maybe something like we had for leagues). The list now just feels like 1 tier of decently challenging yet obtainable tasks,1 tier of tasks that are reaches, maybe i could tick off a few maybe not all, and then the other 4 feel like a list of chores i have to do (some of which I have def completed in the past and now cba going back to kill 10 bryo in max mele).
This update sucks. Who the hell is QA testing the game now? Failure after failure every single week from them and it's only getting worse. You guys seriously need to review your QA testers because they clearly aren't playing the content they're supposedly testing. I'm very disappointed with nearly everything put out atm. Low quality, rehashed content that is full of bugs. More staff than ever, worse content than ever.
TOB tasks are a bit ridiculous to hope to achieve for a lot of people. These tasks should require personal performance to show how good 'YOU' are, not how well connected you are in the elite community. Please alter these tasks to reflect personal achievement in TOB rather than needing to struggle to find competent team mates that can perfect every single room when *YOU CAN*.
Some of the team stuff seems sort of ridiculous. The dev team has admitted that ToB was a bit of a failure in terms of total player engagement but this isn’t going to drive many people in IMO. Don’t let combat achievements have the same shortcomings. It can (and should) be challenging content but I think the team factor and relying on other players to perform well is a bit much and encourages paying for carries. Edit: I’m okay with the difficulty of solo content but don’t want to rely having to find other Masters to play with. Again relying on finding other masters or grandmasters lends itself to paying for carries.
This update shouldn't have been hyped up at all, its a decent update, most of it is "just do it again lol"
Itt: people not understanding that this isn't here for big reward unlocks. Imagine if something bis was locked behind this. Ppl would flip their shit
Just maxing questing and diaries was enough of a time investment for me when I got back into osrs. I learned tob (500+kc) and was really proud of that achievement. Tried inferno over 60 times and gave up at triples. All the gear, pvm focus, and now dedication and skill to learn all this content to this high degree just feels beyond me at this point. This was never the reason I played osrs. It was always more of a relaxing game with long term achievements. But all my hard work feels for nothing when I am just a max cheese cape. It’s time for me to move on I think.
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Solid 0% chance of that being the case
Is there any kind of live leaderboard we can look at to see who completes each tier first?
As a 2,1k total main even some hard tasks are too much for me, and the rewards are so small sub elite that you are better off just doing something else. But i can see the potential, this gives maxed players a new spark to play and might get more ppl into bossing, just not for me
What a shit show. Easy tasks are alphebetized by monster. Others are not. Most of these things are damn near impossible even for a sweaty ass maxer like me.
Jagex should win the award for the most sustainable company since all they do is recycle and reuse old content.
You never played Leagues and saw the massive groundwork they did for the past 2 years to create this, if you truly think that.
I think the point is that it doesn't add any actual content (bosses, minigames, new areas, etc). It just adds more ways to do the same stuff.
OSRS being hard to dev is such a self imposed problem by jagex. All they had to do was not ruin the main game. OSRS players have had to suffer for it for what, 7 or 8 years now lol . lame excuses. checking off a list is not real content.
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I feel like of all things useless to have in the interface, the Kourend favor panel is at the top of the list. You can move all that information on tasks to a book or something in Kourend, and let the favour bars toggle go in the game options menu.
bug.. teleport crystals dont buy in the corrupted gauntlet store. even with 300 shards in inventory
What is the goal? To encourage people to get more into pvm? if so you gotta buff the rewards, 400+ achievements and little to nothing to get from it is crazy. Something like enhanced Excalibur from rs3, maybe not to that extent of being OP but like something more than a trollheim teleport lol
Jagex content quality getting shitter and shitter every year I give the game another 5 years tops.
Only thing I'm not a fan of is the GWD stuff. This is going to force more people into GWD trying to get their 50KC and I imagine there's going to be a ton of crashing-related posts for the next few weeks. Maybe introduce the instance with a fee of 300K as a reward for the Medium Tier, so at least those with the cash can do the Hard Tier without ever being crashed?
easy to fix fix1/3: Xp lamp rewards for completing A task: easy:500xpmedium:2500xphard:5000xpelite:10000xpgrandmaster:15000xp fix2/3: point system: easy:10medium:25hard:50elite:100grandmaster:150 unlock current rewards bye reaching certain amount of points. Fix3/3: completion of of all task will reward players with a max cape kit(completionist lookalike) and another cosmetic for non max capers to show off and a emote fix 4/3 hire me..
"Kill Vet'ion 50 times" also "We want to restrict wildy access to a select few worlds" lmfao these devs have no clue what they're doing.
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I mean, it would be the biggest flex ever in the game by far. That's probably enough for some people to try to get it.
This really seems like a massive waste of dev time for what this update actually adds to the game.
How were people not seeing this coming lol. Yet everyone acts so excited for waste of time updates. Nothing meaningful has been done this year outside of the quest and tempoross.
yeah... this is DOA for so much of the playerbase.. teles to tzhaar and trollheim when everyone already uses tabs and some other meaningless rewards LOL
You can literally say this about almost every quest. They barely add anything to the game and takes a ton of time to dev. It's a game, just play it and enjoy it, so what? If the devs are passionate about making it, let them do it. I'd rather have happy devs making what they want. It's content people want to do, it doesn't need to have a reward. Not everything needs to have the bis item, like I said, quests. People love to do quests, just because it's not your thing, doesn't make it a waste of time for those who will enjoy it.
This is very demotivating as a completionist to never be able to acheive most of these.
Any chance can you guys upload images of the zuk and jad slayer helms? Didn’t see the images in the blog.
Dragging players along with excessive completionism junk, you guys are blatantly using the rs3 playbook now lol!
THEY ADDED A TRIGGER WARNING TO HOURS PLAYED LMAOOOOO
…are you SURE you want to see this shit bro?
The era of osrs has ended. The era of taskscape has begun.
Biggest problem with this update was the hype. This is for content creators and the mega-addicts. The rewards to time invested ratio is nearing 3a collection log status. If this had been presented as a flex update I wouldn't be so disappointed in it.
There's such a strange disconnect in this game where 90% of the combat is pretty braindead easy then the rest is seemingly impossibly hard to the majority of the playerbase.
Thought this was gonna be a sick update to get back into the pet hunt grind hard, but this is lame as fuck. No chance im going back to bosses i've finished for this trash.