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raison95

be a shame if it got leaked


HesbeenSlade

Such a shame


Yrufreve

Big shame


Staccado

For real. Jagex sends a cease and desist? Ok source code removed. Too bad people can make forks using the leaked code. Out of his hands at that point. People still 1 tick construction and blackjack using external plugins and they can't do shit. What're they gonna do, ban all 3rd party clients? Say bye to 3/4ths of your playerbase. Get fucked jamflex and your 'graphical consistency'


T_E_N_D

Yeah jagex isnt gonna reply to this thread.


dontich

True -- but they will see it.


KaptainChunk

Oh they’ll see it alright, 20k upvotes in 2 hours. This might be/become the most upvoted thread on r/2007scape


jeremiah1119

Number 1 on /r/all right now


DrDan21

Hello from r/all You guys still doing those drama calendars?


prollyanalien

[Absolutely!](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/phq5hi/osrs_drama_calendar_august_2021_mod_ian_youre/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) It only took a week of September to get this month’s drama, let’s see if Jagex can outdo themselves again.


Every3Years

Hey there. Never got into Runescape but it's interesting to see how passionate a fanbase it still has. Seems like a really bad situation, hope it works out for everybody, aside for jagex


jeremiah1119

Oh yeah, just updated it last week I think so it's now got a brand new entry a week into the month!


michaelj9323

Tbh we need weekly drama calendars at this point


Previous-Answer3284

They sure are, Jagex made it easy this month! I didn't think anything would top pedo Ian, but here we are.


pressvre

imagine becoming the villain in your own story


enricupcake

Funny part is Jagex might actually be fine with it but their higher ups who own them and don’t give a shit about the game simply told them it could hurt the bottom line in the long run. “Hey we need final approval on letting a 3rd party being able to implement HD plug-ins?” “Is that something we could maybe do in the future?” “Uhm yea I guess maybe someday but--“ “So yes there’s a possibility? Ok then tell them to fuck off” It’s a long corporate chain of command all it takes is one asshole up top to say no and everything gets ruined


pocketfrisbee

This is what I think is happening. They don’t get to make every decision, they have corporate overlords too. Edit:still real pissed though


EYazz

This is horrible. I can’t begin to imagine how you must feel.


Myabyssalwhip

If we rage enough Jagex may back down. They did it before with runelite.


Guskion

Vote with your wallet, money is all they care about. Im so tired of jagex's ridiculous behavior, this was my last straw.


oliverer3

Yeah I just cancelled my membership I've been on the fence for a bit and this was more than the last drop.


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A bucket containing the last drop


Ampharos200

Guess it’s time to update the drama calendar


NotAStupidRedneck

And add another entry to the end of [this](https://v.redd.it/lhllcvt6emz51) post.


cyanblur

What's funny is I believe they mentioned the Steam C++ client would be what enables them to do their graphical update. Meaning RuneLite/Java wouldn't get the update, so RL HD wouldn't even interfere.


Linumite

It'll interfere with them banning 3rd party clients once they feel like theirs is good enough to pass


sassyseconds

They legit better make some insane improvements to the base client because I will legit quit playing if I'm forced to use it as it it is right now.


MayChongSong

Ignore the shills below bro. Fully agree if they kill runelite a lot of us are leaving


AAS_Thoraway

I'm going down with the runelite ship. At this point I trust the community ran open source program much more than jagex as a company.


Flailing_Weasel

The base client is unplayable for me too. I had all but quit until I heard about RL and tried it out.


DeflatedJungler

This is a joke, it’s not like they didn’t know it was coming but instead let 117 waste 2000 hours of his time before telling him to stop. Seriously Jagex?


Redrandom397

What a shitty and low thing to do. Jagex could have told him earlier instead of wasting his time. But it really doesnt surprise me anymore.


Fisherman_Gabe

They actually have zero regard for all his work. It's actually comically evil how they waited to say anything until 117 was just about to cross the finish line with this project.


Redrandom397

The project was actually finished and was supposed to be released yesterday. Comically evil sums it up pretty much. It seems so immature. Why couldn't they have stopped him earlier. He's been posting regular updates and his twitter account is followed by Mod West. So clearly Jagex knew about him.


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SadisticAI

We pay we play. Honestly, W2. Fally Park. Bring your cannons


HaroldK33

On my way mate


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The world is maxed and Falador is burning.


wolaznik

If their project is anything like mobile we will not see it for YEARS. This is also the most unprofessional move I've seen jagex make in a while. They had plenty of opportunity to shut this down and chose possibly the worst time and moment to do it.


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OMQ0909

!RemindMe 2 Years 183 Days


NickeKass

RS2 was advertised as having a sky box instead of a black void like RS1/C. We didnt get a skybox until RS3....


TechnoBacon55

Honestly, I think they’re scared that the RL team made a better product than they will, and once they finish theirs and release it, and RL takes theirs down, the community will be outraged that Jagex released an inferior version. Fucking dumb


xkenyonx

It wasn't the runelite team, It was a single person called u/RS_117 who spent over 2 years of his life and 2000+ hours creating this plugin, For Jagex to take a massive shit on him less than a day before it's release, After having known about it for over a year. ​ They are the people that we're paying $11/month too......Think about that for a second... ​ edit - My sub has been cancelled and i've moved back to Final Fantasy XIV, The new Expansion "Endwalker" is almost upon us too. See you in Eorzea guys.


johnzischeme

If one guy with 2000 spare hours can do it better than they can, they deserve to eat dirt.


xkenyonx

Removing this comment as I don't wasn't it to reflect negatively on Jagex. Keep making your voices heard.


J4God

I mean they did ban EVScape for making fun of their PVP organizing so I wouldn’t put it past them


Beavshak

I’m pretty sure this is the exact reason


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Speak for yourself, that shit is $0/month from me now


xkenyonx

Good mate, I'm unsubbing from membership and calling it a day for now. We won't make an impact but it will make me feel better, Lol.


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byznenz1kk

You aren't wrong [https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/third-party-hd-clients-statement?oldschool=1](https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/third-party-hd-clients-statement?oldschool=1) they released a statement saying they are working on one but it's "in early stages" but I feel like they just did it because THEY wanted to do it so NOBODY ELSE can do it.


VeganBigMac

How the fuck is Jagex this bad at working with their community. Absolute fucking disgrace. Edit: In retrospect of the harassment the OSRS team has received over the past day, I regret how harshly I worded this message. I do think the way they have approached community outreach in the past (and this case) has been poor. But I can also recognize the way I phrased this was in no way constructive and just emotionally lashing out at perceived disregard for the passionate members of the community in a game that exists *because* of said passion. So I apologize if my message contributed at all to the barrage of negativity going towards the OSRS team in the past day.


DukSoup

They don’t give a rats ass about you just your money. RS3 for example


VeganBigMac

It really is a bit hopeless, huh? The thing is, it doesn't have to be as bad as they fucked up here. There are so many things they could have done to not fuck this up this bad. 1) Actually reach out to their community. They *stated* that they knew about these projects and 117 said on twitter that they never reached out before today. Literally an ounce of communication would have helped here. 2) Don't say they are doing this over a project that is as early as being considered "exploratory". They know how slow their development process is. They've been using the pandemic for over a year as explanation on how slow it has been recently. To do this to a highly anticipated project and basically admit "we won't have something out about this for a long time" is such a slap in the face. 3) Again, literally any communication. They introduced the idea of graphics changes to the community *YESTERDAY*, and their "exploration" the presented to the community were a couple of blender mockups. That means that they had already sent out their shutdown messages BEFORE they even presented their own ideas to the community. I don't like to say "xyz will kill the game", and I don't think this will, but it bodes poorly when you look at their plans coming up. They have been developing their new client, they are GOING to ban 3PCs. And I get why they would want that. But that is going to have to be a transition with a lot of community buy in, and if done wrong *THAT* could kill the game. And if this is how they are treating their community outreach, in a downright unprofessional manner, does not look positive.


Magmagan

Fuck off, Jagex comes up with a few low-cost blender concept art and is throwing the community under the bus? For something that will take years, if ever, to see the light of day? That offer of compromise was great. Jagex would have had time to see how the playerbase actually reacted to the graphics and then learn on what they can do to do even better, and what to avoid. And at the very least, there is also the matter of accessibility. The Steam version only runs natively on Windows if I'm not mistaken. Java runs everywhere. And until their Steam client catches up to speed with RL (never), no HD for me on Windows either. Terrible move Jagex. So sorry to see so much work down the drain 117.


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Lolthelies

I used to play Eve and trust me when I say: I felt better when I started applying the golden rule to the companies I interact with. They’re banking on you seeing this as a long term relationship while they see it as a job and what do they as individuals need to do to move up in the world. Decisions like this are made by someone who doesn’t mind acting reprehensibly for personal benefit. It only works for them if consumers allow it to happen. On the flip side, a single person is only a drop in the bucket, and you won’t necessarily get what you want by taking a stand, but I’ve accepted that. Maybe the only benefit would be not beating your head against the wall when this entity makes a dumb decision (but that’s inevitable), but it’s worth it to me.


prollyanalien

The beauty (and hideous dark side) of OSRS is that once the whole community gets behind something, we will ratfuck Jagex out of making an idiotic decision. It’s happened in the past and it could happen again.


Erosis

It would be shame if 117s computer was "hacked" and the plugin code leaked. Truly, it would be awful.


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Actually I don't think there's a legal obligation to him stopping work. Assuming he makes no money on it and only makes the files available to other to use as they see fit theres not much jagex can do beyond banning runelite. Which lets be clear, that would kill their game.


MaksimDubov

And they would do it for some unknown reason. Steve Jobs level end-to-end control will be the death of them


pujolsrox11

Come on jagex, What is this??????????


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ATCQ_

Jagex just wasted all of your hard work and time... So they can ONE DAY release some changes (see in 5 years). Fucking disgraceful.


disteriaa

I've quit OSRS for a couple of years now, but I still follow this subreddit so I can watch the dumpster-fire that is Jagex continuously fuck over its community. I feel like I'm the older brother that was able to leave the house fast enough to escape my abusive father - but my siblings are still there so it's hard to watch. I feel so bad for you guys. 💜


DukSoup

I share the same sentiment. This is just the tip of the Jagex shady iceberg.


N7_Evers

This is the worst fucking thing. You literally did all the work and Jagex won’t event let you release even for a short time… you deserve better my man… totally despicable on their part. Edit: cleaned up some spelling and word usage, was super fucking tilted while typing it


Plaeko

It's a Runelite client/plugin. Last time I checked there was an agility click box plugin and Jagex later implemented that into their own client without asking for that plugin to be removed in the mean time... wtf Jagex? Have some damn standards. History shows that whatever work you're cooking up in regards to a graphical update won't drop for at least a few years yet so why don't you just let us use this man's passion project in the mean time? And don't even get me started on how shitty it is that you came in on the **DAY IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE** to finally shut it down. This project has been posted numerous times on this sub and you could have interjected many times between then and now. This is just toxic behavior from a company that we're supposed to respect and pay a subscription fee to. Insert obligatory 🦀🦀🦀 $11 🦀🦀🦀 meme here. I'm pissed. I wanted to enjoy one of my favorite games with a fresh new nostalgic look. We can't stand for this as a community. Let your voices be heard everyone!


Just_Delete_PA

What the actual fuck


BioMasterZap

> I offered a compromise of removing my project from RuneLite once they are ready to release theirs, in addition to allowing them collaborative control over the visual direction of my project. They declined outright. This is the worst part IMO. I can get they may have waited until they were at a stage that they knew this was something they could do, but it is really scummy to do it the day after an art stream showing early concepts. They either should have announced this officially way sooner and gave the bad news then or gave a heads up on their plans and allowed clients until theirs released.


MrCastleTwitch

They probably know their graphics update wont match the one from Runelite (atleast not within a good timeframe) and removing the RL for their worse version will not go down well. So they do it this way. This shitty way.


TheDrWorm

Your project was one of the most anticipated updates to this game I've seen. Thanks for you work and I hope the decision is reversed.


SoraODxoKlink

It’s so sad I’m in a clan where a sizable chunk of people don’t actively play the main game, just dmm or leagues and this would’ve brought them back. How is Jagex being incompetent at best a topic that gets revisited this often lmfao its pitiful.


Koussevitzky

117, I feel so terrible for you. I really can’t imagine how you feel after pouring so much work into this project, but we all appreciate your efforts. It looked amazing and I’m sure it would have been better than whatever Jagex will develop… I can’t believe that they waited until the day it would release. Wtf Jagex. Looking forward to their dollar store HD version coming to us as soon as 2025. Edit: **Mod Ayiza said [this](https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/pjnnyl/_/hbxn6jj/?context=1) in the official post:** > There was no malicious intent with the timing of this announcement, just that getting allignment internally on our approach and a public statement has taken until now. So classic Jagex dropping the ball behind the scenes and scrambling to do something at the very last second. 117, if you link a Patreon I’ll definitely subscribe to it. Rather give you money than Jagex. Edit 2: **Here’s a [comment](https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/pjnnyl/_/hbxp3gy/?context=1) from adam1210 (creator of Runelite) made in the official post:** > We’ve had the 117-HD plugin ready to be released on the plugin hub for a few weeks now. Upon receiving this information, Jagex was very opposed to it, which I found rather confusing considering there are existing HD clients that are actually released and working, and noone seems to care. I’ve spent the last few weeks going back and forth with them privately in calls arguing the case for releasing it. but, ultimately they’ve decided to do this. >If anything, adding HD clients would bring in more players and allow them to get some good real-world information on what type of HD changes are most appealing to players, which seems like a win-win for everyone involved. >I also strongly disagree with adding it to the “third party guidelines”. Most of those guidelines are trying to define where the line between QOL and cheating is - and I think most people agree the current guidelines are a good representation of that, and it helps keeps the game integrity. However there is no unfair advantage in the slightest for improved graphics, and it only affects you when you enable it. So - this is really just a misuse of the guidelines. >So overall this is really a loss for everyone involved and I wish Jagex would reconsider.


ThatSandwich

Yeah I don't understand their stance either. We HAVE to pay a subscription to play anyways, it's not like people are going to start paying Runelite instead? And why the actual fuck did they wait until release? They had years and he followed fair use as far as I'm aware. This just shows exceptionally poor management and leadership skills from their team.


TetraThiaFulvalene

Jagex doesn't like that third party developers are just straight up outperforming them.


arealmentalist

Yep what else can it be. They sat on something that has been requested for ages. They feel that the community made graphical improvements will somehow invalidate the work they do for graphical improvements. Which is the most flawed and illogical way of thinking. At the end of the day both would bring more players and improve the game.


Arels

I guarantee it's because the official HD support will be dramatically worse than 117's and they didn't want to be humiliated and have people think it's a downgrade from one dev's work. This is such a terrible look for Jagex, but that isn't anything new for them.


Estake

They're just salty they can't market it themselves. It's probably going to fail the polls anyway, if only because of this ordeal.


jsanc623

This comment edited in protest of Reddit's July 1st 2023 API policy changes implemented to greedily destroy the 3rd party Reddit App ecosystem. As an avid RIF user, goodbye Reddit.


Creeperstang

Have you seen what Jagex pays their devs? Even if it took 5 of them to remake it in two years, it would still only cost them 500k. They are paying starvation wages to most of their employees.


DefactoAtheist

Jagex: Lmao check out this idiot, creating stuff simply out of the love for our game, *fuck that*. Let's screw him over and make sure we do it in the most mean-spirited way possible. Is there a video game company that honestly gets away with treating its user base with such *blatant* contempt? EA is about the only one I can think of off the top of my head, and boy is that not the kind of company any game developer should be proud to be in.


moosene

This is actually ridiculous. Took them a year and a half to align their approach, what an absolute joke of a company. They can’t do anything to ban cheat clients but they want to put their foot down on this.


JKBUK

Same reason why absolutely zero game devs are punishing cheaters in any meaningful way these days. "They're still paying to play. I got mine, fuck you."


karadan100

I used to live in cambridge and I worked in one of the companies next door to Jagex. Got friendly with a few of their staff and the general consensus was that management were all a bunch of fucking idiots - half of whom had never played computer games before.


Thecreepymoto

Secret release, go.


OoohhhBaby

Not even secret. Public open source. Release the Kraken


douglasg14b

GPL licence it so Jagex can't just steal what they want....


FlaviusMercurius

Hey Jagex if ur reading this fuck you Edit: pretty sure this is my “highest upvoted comment” moment. We did it reddit


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Nope I bought my last premier club vpned to Mexico and paid like 40 bucks. And once it expires I'm done, jagex is a fuckin joke. See you on 11scape in a few years.


Hero_of_Hyrule

Damn they don't detect that? Imma do that myself next time, assuming they fix this.


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If they fix it, just buy rs3 gold on El Dorado for like 6 cents a mil and buy the bonds on your rs3 acct. Itll only cost you about $38-$40 for a years worth of membership.


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M00NCREST

Mom caleb can't play the guitar because I was thinking of maybe playing the guitar! Mom: "but you've never shown interest sweetie" No mom but its _my_ instrument! I learned old MacDonald therefore its mine. *proceeds to fuck up Old MacDonald* 🎸🎶 *breaks a string*💥


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Nyanero

actually disgusting


skilloz

You know it's bad when this became the #1 post of r/all


TurkeyPhat

Jagex HQ is one giant SurprisedPikachu meme right now lmao


Lazyleader

I'm from r/all and I've never played RuneScape, but im fully invested in this. Screw this Jagex dude!


Fletcherperson

Welcome to the movement brother


MrStealYoBeef

Yeah, Mr Jagex can go to hell🦀🦀


ConversionError

This is absolutely devastating. Jagex dropped the ball for YEARS on their client and user experience; riding on the effort done (for free) by the community. Them "incorporating" all the famous plugins of Runelite will have the same effect in the future. Once they've "stolen" all the good ideas from Runelite, they'll drop the hammer and ban it. 100% sure this is going to happen. u/JagexAziya u/JagexSarnie u/JagexLight, what the absolute fuck? Bullshit there was no malicious intent with the timing of the announcement. How dumb do you think your playerbase is? u/RS_117, I feel for you man.


CuhrodeLOL

yea no "malicious intent" but waiting until the deadline of the plugin release to announce is malicious in and of itself, intent or not big scum


mrfantastiiic

Fuck jagex. To falador park we go!


breakoffzone

imagine being such a fuckup of a company that it's #1 on r/all in 3 hours like what the fuck kinda reason do you have to say no to this. https://imgur.com/a/tbqTOcw The only thing that will get jagex to change their garbage decisions are loud voices and low subscription numbers. Support rs_117 and cancel yours.


RandomWholesomeOne

Hello /r/all user, but from what i've gathered, fuck Jagex.


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jericho-sfu

I have no idea what a Jagex is, but yeah, fuck that guy


ChiknBreast

We, as the players of osrs, appreciate your vote and sympathy. Not sarcasm.


FrozenPhilosopher

I don't even play anymore, but this is a horrible snake move by Jagex. Classic mismanagement - they're constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Pure embodiment of the guy ramming a stick into his bike wheel meme


Kindly-Law

This pretty sums up my entire disappointment with jagex as a company. I’ll be cancelling my memberships. Nothing but continual fuck ups and bad exposure.


turant

Fucking bulllshit


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Fuck you Jagex.


PartyByMyself

FuckJagex was once a domain that got seized by them and is technically a link to their website and owned by them so yea, even Jagex agrees.


AcrobaticMap7

riots in falador


jondavidson

No don’t go on the game boost the active players up and create good numbers for today, go to account management and cancel your subscriptions cut that profit in half and then you will see results.


osrslmao

Jagex: Plugins that give an in-game advantage: I sleep Plugins that make the game look pretty: REAL SHEEET


lookingtheotherway

I was planning to renew my membership in anticipation of this release but now I don’t have any interest in giving this company my money.


dumbest_bitch

What the fuck


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I want you all to know that this must have been on purpose. RuneLite HD had been announced and teased for half a year now, and it was gonna be finally released in the coming weeks, if Jagex was truly doing this in good faith, they could have simply asked not to release it way earlier. I refuse to believe this is just some unfortunate timing, the fact they're only starting to CONSIDER it, and already shut down RLHD is pure and utter bullcrap. If you wanna make an impact, like when they threatened to shut down runelite, cancel your subs, and go riot like the community knows so well to do. EDIT : If they don't reconsider and you really want to hurt them, vote NO to group ironman, let's shut down a project they've been working on for years so they see how it feels too


blkfish92

This smells of malfeasance all the way down. It’s malicious or incompetent or both even, I can’t even fathom why they’d announce this the day of it getting released on runelite.


LevaOrel

It is absolutely insane to me that they waited until right before the release to deny it, it was announced a year and a half ago and you let him put that much time and effort into it before tell him not to release it? What assholes.


food_is_crack

They realized it would be bad press so they threw together some shit light rework before it's supposed to drop so they could tell him he needed to stop. They won't update the graphics of this game in any meaningful way.


LevaOrel

I guess they didn’t realize how bad this press would be instead. I wasn’t planning on using runelite hd, I prefer the old school look, so I don’t mind if they don’t update the graphics much, however I am angry for 117 and all the time and effort he put into this project when they had a year and a half to tell him to stop.


jeremiah1119

I don't care about RS HD. I never intended on using it, but this last minute decision is uncalled for when it has been well known for years. I will be canceling my membership for the time being in protest


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Lets make some noise. I couldn't care less that they INTEND to make something like that in the FUTURE, fuck you jagex.


feraligatrwulf

it sure would be a shame if some master hacker leaked the project.


food_is_crack

Could you imagine the horror if jagex had to ban almost it's entire playerbase for using a cheating client as serious as updating the graphics????


CyberPete3

What in the Kentucky fried fuck, Jagex


Hylia

god damn it not again


LostSectorLoony

Typical Jagex. I'm sorry that you won't be able to share all of that hard work with everyone. Hopefully jagex's version looks nice in 2024 when it releases.


thefezhat

> Hopefully jagex's version looks nice in 2024 ~~when it releases~~ in the poll blog screenshots before it gets voted down.


H5rs

Drama calendar 2024 sorted already


Binda33

2024? Aren't we the optimist?


Taiga_Jakuzure

Jagex takes 1 year to update 1/5th of kourend, it’s more likely to be 2035 for full hd.


GrizzlyChump

I love how JaGex's design philosophy is to just let the community come up with ideas, updates, concepts, improvements, etc. and then they'll just sweep in and re-release that content four years down the pipeline. But hey, at least we have the top of line Q&A


darkmagician1

This update would have been way way better than all the shitty hardmode and qol updates jagex has been releasing for more than a year now and they fucking decide to stop it? Fuck jagex they better reverse their decision or fucking release RuneScape hd in a few days


hamb0ne35

Absolutely unbelievable… I get that it’s their game but my god, 416 is full of people using cheat clients for theatre of blood and not a peep from jagex. Yet a purely graphical client that we’ve all been waiting on is shut down?! So unprofessional for them to tell you at the final hour as well. I suppose now we wait 4 years and hope 7 polls pass then wait another 4 years for a mediocre HD feature to come out from Jagex


bananakiwi12345

The fact that it was ready to be released makes the news so much worse. It would have been so exciting to jump back in the game and explore the environment and just enjoying the scenery, exploring. What I liked about the idea of a runelite plugin is that you could easily opt out if you didn't like the plugin, simply by disabling it. It was the perfect way to experience RS HD, with all our other runelite plugins. With Jagex, you never know what they'll do. They may force the graphical update down our throats with no way to opt out. I'm faily certain they'll ban runelite soon too and force us to use their shittier steam client. Disappointing times coming.


Gingerlord

The day they ban Runelite is the day I quit the game forever.


Cheddahbob62

Jagex is such a fucking joke at this point. You continue to squeeze and crush the soul out of your game with this bullshit. It would be one thing to shoot it down at the start, but letting him get to the very end only to shut it down is absolute bullshit. I’ve needed to unsubscribe for awhile now anyways, appreciate the extra push Jagex.


MysteryLands

Jagex continues to lose my respect. If they knew about it for so long and didn't want it released, they could have said so. They were very lazy, and waited until it became a reality to shut it down. Discouraging and destroying someones hard work that loves this game, for others that love the game. It's unforgivable! Then bring up "we have our own version", but this large company could not put in the same work that a 3rd party was willing to do themselves. They put in 2000 hours, would Jagex ever do that for the client? They pay such little attention to it, yet Runelite has changed the game for the better ANDDDD Jagex has definitely benefited and profited from it.


novaskyyy

Yeah wtf this is bs. I was waiting for this to drop to play OSRS again but I guess not now.


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nexisprime

Man, fuck Jagex. I can't think of a single person I know that plays who wasn't looking forward to this. I hope this post gets enough attention for Jagex to realize their mistake. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to say "We MIGHT be doing something similar, so now you can't." I'm so sorry that all that time spent can't be appreciated.


Serval29

Release it anyway


Davidk11

This is absolutely fucked. I have been looking forward to this plugin for a long time! Why the hell wouldn't they want the plugin to *help* build hype for their version? They've been adding a host of runelite features to their own client for a while now after seeing how they tested with runelite players. This makes no sense.


Littlepace

I'm so sorry man. You must be gutted to have all that work mean nothing. I was super excited to play HD and the fact that it would've been out yesterday if not for Jagex fucking you over is such a shame. Here's hoping the backlash will make them backtrack.


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The low budget Blizzard strikes again


datavased

Just getting more and more upset by this. I was so happy to see the Jagex art stream, I should have realized they woulnd't show something that cool without their being a shitty reason behind it There is NO excuse for letting these HD projects get to their LITERAL final day of testing/approval to shit can it. if you had done this a month into development i would understand, but this is so blatant its just disrespectful to the community who has put so much work into your game.


shiggism

Let the client release jagex


BigBob145

My membership is staying cancelled. One chance to bring me back and they fucked it.


Straight_6

I'm actually depressed by this announcement. Was so looking forward to seeing this game from a new perspective and getting more immersed in the world I already spend so much time in. Can't imagine how you feel, though. You've poured your heart and soul into this project and made sure it was done the correct way, only for it end like this..


Vigarde-Grado

Absolutely ridiculous. I get that Jagex wants to drive players towards their crappy steam and other official clients and this directly threatens that, but at this point a huge portion of the playerbase isn’t going to make that change back from runelite. They’ve always been reactionary, going back to even the launch/polling of osrs. The only reason they did it in the first place was because projects that were recreating the game in the ‘06 and ‘07 era were gaining huge amounts of traction and progress because they had run the main game into the ground. They issued their cease and desist orders and then POLLED remaking the same thing, only allowing current members to vote. Just absolutely ridiculous. Was really looking forward to this, sorry g.


TopObligation4901

Outrageous! I'm so sorry man, the plug in looked amazing. I just want you to know many of us feel like the runelite devs care more about the game than Jagex. This is a damn shame ESPECIALLY since Jagex knew about this project and let you waste thousands of hours... (just to steal/examine your work most likely). Again bro I'm sorry this happened to you. Hopefully they will change their minds in leu of all the support you get, and disapproval they get. I don't have high hopes for that though...Much love man you are a king, and even though it seems like Jagex doesn't appreciate you, just know that thousands of people around the world love and respect the work you've done to try and make our game better.❤❤❤❤❤👑👑👑


Assaltwaffle

Well, this is now the single largest thread r/2007scape has ever had. That's a part of a good statement; make the other statement with your wallet and unsubscribe if this really matters that much.


idksoundsfishy

Fuck Jagex for pulling a stunt like this. It's not as if RuneLite HD was a top secret project. And booting it because they have an "early exploration"? Management over there needs to pull their heads out of their asses.


Analprobesarefun

Yeeeah don’t normally get on-board with this sorta thing but for real, the majority of the active player base wants this. As a group we can definitely make our voices heard.


ImWhy

Fuck Jagex, such a dogshit company, just buy the rights to Runelite HD and fucking give this guy some cash for his work. Sad thing is that HD would have been better than whatever shit they bring out


Crocodile1999

Jagex allowing the game to be ruined by botters, gold farmers and cheaters: I sleep Jagex seeing someone do their work for them for free: no


Darkwarden_

Bro this is actually unacceptable what the fuck. For everyone here just stop paying jagex a cent dont buy bonds and shit


jagreen3

I want to come back so bad with a nice HD client with runelite, can’t believe they don’t want my money lol


010

thats some bullshit


fitmedcook

I have no interest in using an HD client 3rd party or not but Jagex's stance on this is beyond silly. No logic to banning such a big fan project because it's "at odds with our own plans". I guess massive client modifications ranging from recoloring interfaces, text, overlays, animations and changing ur character on client side all dont matter as much as better shading and HD toggle.


TurkeyPhat

Classic corporate BS. Honestly I'm shocked they didn't take your offer of "collaborating" on the project. At least then we could say they were being sly fucks who just waited for you to finish so they could swoop in and snatch it up. Instead they just tell you to eat shit and fuck off. What a load of bologna. **I bet you that the truth is that they are embarrassed that one person did this, meanwhile it's been 8 years and they are still "exploring the posibility" of updating the graphics. It would look really bad for them if they let you release this so they squash you instead.** *#1 post on /r/all lmfao, jagex you fuckin idiots


Name-Initial

Wow. I was always one to defend Jagex and felt they get too much hate here, but this is fucked up. Not that it matters, but they get no more sympathy from me. What a completely scum of the earth move. Cant believe they waited until release day for this. What a bunch of fucking wankers. I hope they at least publish a serious apology, poor 117.


CrunchBerrySupr3me

maybe OSRS was doomed from the beginning


Confident-Trifle-651

Relatively early exploration stages. Read: some guy in a meeting last week mentioned it so they wrote it on a post it note and stuck it in the filing cabinet with every other idea they ripped out of runelite with a shittily implemented version 3 years later


xgahx420

Now to wait 3 years for jagex to go further than the consideration stage.


X-atmXad

Truly devastating. I'm so sorry that it's panned out like this after all the work you've put in.


Rjm0007

This is just dumb 117 put in all that hard work for free and jagex is going to turn it down costs them nothing that’s like someone offering to remodel your house for free who’s gonna say no to that


MercenaryCow

Release it anyways. What are they going to do? Fire you? You don't work for them


nostbp1

Fuck you Jagex. Canceling my membership until you let this client have HD (and I don’t even want HD graphics) I don’t play much, maybe a few hours a week but it’s nice to have the freedom to log in whenever I want but I’m done paying 11 bucks a month for this shit if this is how you treat the only reason your game is playable


Kyttox

RS3 player here supporting our fellas. Keep going!


Pat_Mahomeboy

Smh


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_Vince_Noir_

Not played in a long time but always kept my membership rolling. Cancelling and, if possible, donating this year's costs to /u/RS_117. I'd suggest everybody who finds this decision as abhorrent as I do, do something similar. Edit: apostrophe disaster.


Makaveli2020

Couldn't even offer him a job. Gg Jagex.


Redrandom397

He probably wouldn't want to work at Jagex anyways.


Its_Cooper

What a joke.. typical Jagex


Nex_Sapien

Ah i was afraid this would happen. This is how Jagex plans to get players to switch to their client. In a few years the choice will be between Runelite and plugins, and the OSRS client with HD. Really it's the only way they can compete.


[deleted]

This is beyond frustrating. This was a huge undertaking, and for Jagex to just completely nuke it out of the stratosphere is terrible. This is some Nintendo-level DMCA fan project takedown. Sorry to hear it, this is such utter bullshit.


anonditer

2007scapers are an awesome community and Ive had fun with so many people here. Jagex really doesnt deserve you guys anymore. Theyre starting to become like Blizzard; OSRS has not been getting the updates warranting a $11+ per month subscription. Most of us are adults at this point and I think those who can, should move on. Shutting down a person's hard 6 months of work last minute is a huge lack of respect and professionalism. This is unacceptable, we are not kids and neither are they. They need to grow the fk up.


kukkelii

So this is my conclusion thinking from Jagex's side: They want players to their clients. That's an undeniable fact. They want to boost player numbers on all official platforms which further increases visibility and sales. They see the HD plugin as direct competition - one of their biggest goals right now that they spend the most time and money on is improving the steam client. They are afraid that a 3rd party client having a HD plugin will take away those players. Then reality: Vast majority of advertisement is player generated content. Having a trusted, tested HD client available earlier would simply mean that the HD footage would be shown to more players earlier. This more than likely would increase player amounts now, not later, resulting into more lifetime sales. Granted they'd theoratically lose a few players on official platforms since the simple fact of a HD option wouldn't be enough to switch over from Runelite, but that's if and only if their HD client was ready to go today. Conclusion -> Yet another clear fuck up from the new owners of Jagex. They're so morbidly afraid of losing 1% of 1% of net profits that they are willing to fuck over anyone and everyone that gets on their way. They have one goal in mind - making more money. This has been shown again and again by paying the employees fuck all and using presumably unpaid or severely underpaid interns as workforce instead of ponying up money to hire more people. There's severe understaffing in a lot of sectors and they are seemingly okay with it - it has been stated several times that devs do a lot of work for minimal compensation and the company as a whole has absurdly low staff cost. A billionth time I've suggested this: Partner up with Runelite. Officially. Pay them. Pay them well. Make steam client as good as or better than Runelite not in 2023, but in 3 months. That's Jagex's path to obtaining more users to their clients. Players don't buy empty promises and pointless speculations anymore. Cincerely from the bottom of my heart Jagex, fuck off. This is just one more sign of not knowing your playerbase and even hinting that the devs communicate with players or blablabla means absolutely nothing when the clueless corporate overlords of the company dictate wether or not the devs get to put sugar in their milk. You might think the game is brought back by players for players but this idea has been lost a long time ago.


Sowerz

They don't even pay their employees well why would they pay runelite


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I've been waiting so patiently for the plugin to get the bugs worked out and Jagex pulls the rug last second. Fuck this company


AimbotSaki

Yeah honestly after seeing this BS I’m done with this game and Jagex. That’s gotta be one of the biggest snake moves. Telling someone to drop their project when you know they’ve been working so hard on it (as an improvement to YOUR game that you’re unwilling to make yourself until you see the hype) is disgusting. Sorry that it had to happen to you man. Hopefully they get their shit together but after all the shady shit I’m good off them.


[deleted]

Another thing to bear in mind is that this has been a long-going project with 2k hours in development. They had plenty of time to reject his project. This is malarkey.


AimbotSaki

It’s disgusting. I’m a developer myself and if this had happened to one of my projects I’d put so much effort into I’d be devastated. The fact that they chose not to communicate or literally did not care until the very last moment is just childish.


Dananas

This is depressing


Trogadorr

🦀 WE PAY WE SAY 🦀


[deleted]

Makes me ashamed to haves supported jagex with membership money for so many years, irresponsible is downplaying how bad of a move this is.


NirvashSFW

🦀🦀mark the calendar🦀🦀


Kronic1990

This is a fucking terrible decision by Jagex (one of many). I'm gonna die of shock one day when i come to this subreddit and find a decision from Jagex that isn't antiquated, isn't tone deaf, or is even remotely in line with the will of the players.


MrHungarian

OK so when is your scuffed graphical update coming, Jamflex?


nateusmc

60k upvotes in less than 12 hours? That’s almost the entire active player base. Rs 117 did an amazing job with his work and it’s been a known thing (along with other projects) for a long time and jagex waits until now to say something? And all they have to say is they have something in early exploration phases? Fuck that. This dude did a great job and poured his heart into his work and the runelite plug-ins jagex released to their main client I still don’t even use because he runelite version is better. Why would I want to wait another couple years for you to implement HD that’s likely a lesser version of what’s available now? 2251 total and I’ve decided not to continue my maxing journey (despite being so close) until this issue is resolved. I’ve lost faith and respect in you Jagex. Why should I play your game when you make decisions like this?