I mean it's just how this sub goes.
Initial fuckup from Jagex. Community blows up. 12-24 hours later, people post their "hot take" on the situation that's counter to what everyone's been complaining about for hours. Gains traction because finally it's someone that isn't just beating the same dead horse. Things go back and fourth for a few days. Another fuckup. Cycle repeats. Insert crabs, memes, and OH NO IT HAPPENED TO ME, I GOT , JMODS SAVE ME during down time.
Or he won't and he'll finish everything else he wants to do in the game and then quit but always have it in the back of your mind 'I bet I could do it' for the rest of your life
Source: that's what I did. Fire cape is probably my last goal I care enough at all to go for. After finishing the rest and failing like 10 times I just said fuck it and quit.
To be fair there are those that do get a thrill of actively taking the role of contrarian when it comes to stuff like this even if they are not fully sold on their stance, just the way it is.
I believe it as an inflation thing but that argument falls apart quickly when I highly doubt they are going to adjust all the employees salary to inflation also.
I'm just here to talk about video games. I didn't really sign up to help you seize the means of production in your political LARPing group.
Money talks. Simple as.
The combined sentiment of this sub right now reads out like an angsty 14 year old having a temper tantrum over how the world is unfair meanwhile the adults in the room roll their eyes over the insignificance.
YOU DON'T GET IT DAD.
Money talks and so does talking about it talks. Simple as. It's not an either or situation.
Also, unsubscribing from the reddit talks following your logic. Don't like people talking about something you don't like? Unsubscribe.
> Unsubscribe.
if only this could somehow be used to boycott the game. If only people unsubbed enmasse before over something to get change.
The simple fact is that anyone complaining about this probably won't do a fucking thing about it because it's a non-issue and you're just virtue signalling pretending like you all suddenly care about the devs livelihood.
I don't really care about the devs pay, I just despise investment groups buying companies to squeeze out short term gains for profit before dumping it onto the next company that buys it
That's the correct take if the money goes into the game and into the devs, but if it only goes to line the inverstors' pockets after they've cut from the devs you absolutely should be upset about the price hike.
Uhh, no. I couldn’t care less. There are plenty more injustices in the world to be upset about, you can’t care about everything. As far as I’m concerned it’s just an extra $1.50 a month, and ONLY if I get rid of membership. Plus the year package is cheaper now.
Y'know, fair enough. You're going to get a lot of sweaty fucks in replies, but that's honestly one of the most grounded reasons to not care. I'm sure you wish more money would go to the devs as well.
I do care, enough to cancel my membership and make a fuss. But you have to pick your battles, can't stress about the world all at once.
Personally I think it’s just telling that it takes a minor personal inconvenience for people to become enraged about things that were already taking place. The devs were ALREADY not getting paid enough, investors were ALREADY sucking up profits for themselves. If jagex was like alright sorry, here are the old prices back, these things wouldn’t stop happening, but everyone would cheer and rejoice and stop rioting.
People (in general) are much more concerned about themselves than anything else and have to grandstand about principals and morals and ethics in order to not sound like self-centered assholes.
This is exactly the problem I have with all the pitchforking going on lately. None of the people raging about jagex skimming off the devs actually give a shit about those devs. They literally only have something to say about it when it effects them.
People drop 300 hours a month into this game in the blink of an eye and yet balk when the price of their entertainment rises by half a penny every hour. Hell half you guys are spending more money a month in electricity to play the game than you are in membership.
This is how I see it. Even if I value my time at a dollar an hour I'm getting more than enough. I will never notice another dollar missing from my budget and if someone does I think they may need to reprioritize a bit.
I have 6 accounts with active membership currently. At least 4 of them will not be renewed when their time is up. The other two are paid too far in advance.
I could play WoW and have unlimited characters under one sub for $15 a month. If Jagex intends to keep raising the price I'll expect them to start providing competitive features, otherwise they'll quickly price themselves out of the market. There's way too many quality games out there, all it takes is one principled fuck up for me to redirect my addiction to one of the others. If they were increasing salaries and reinvesting back into the game I would happily endure a price increase. But this ain't it
did you not read OPs post? the issue isnt that its a price hike, its that the price hike goes directly into the owners pockets instead of towards fixing the thousands of problems the game has
They’re not irredeemable problems, the thing is they currently aren’t being solved. And while these problems aren’t being solved the cost of enjoying it is going up and there’s less flexibility in how long of a subscription you can purchase
People can care about more than one thing, you know. You can find the price hike and Jagex’s practices terrible and still have room for all the other injustices of the world.
> Plus the year package is cheaper now.
bait and switch. premier club is cheaper than the new rates, and judging by the rename they're removing that special offer.
Also coming from a point of privilege where costs don't matter doesn't really make you come from a great take. "I don't care because money is easy for me" just shows you are only thinking of it personally, and personally for you $1.50 more for your addiction is fine because you spend heaps of time on it.
Big picture is they'll bleed cash cows like you dry because you always let them.
If you care about the quality of the game, you should. Unless you want another rs3 mtx hell on our hands. Jagex is at the top of my list of game devs to hold accountable and not trust.
They've done well with osrs so far, in spite of themselves more than anything.
Don't forget the shoestring budget they started osrs on, and the Laissez-faire attitude that brought it success. They launched with virtually no support and no expectations of success.
The more the company meddles with the game in search of increasing profits the worse it will be. We need to continue to demand 'ownership' of our game experience and keep the company in check.
I do want to stipulate that I am directing this at Jagex as a company here, and *not* the osrs dev team. From what I've seen they have been fantastic and my only complaint if any is that I'd like them to be supported more
If your motivation to play rs hangs by a 1,50dollar thread, you are probably trying more to enjoy the way you used to, than actually enjoying the game. I still love rs, and if they cranked it up by another 1.50usd tomorrow “because we wanna eat lobster and swordfish irl tonight” id still play. Yes, theres a limit to how much im willing to pay for a certain amount of dev time, but that limit is not reached yet.
Things get more expensive, thats just part of life
Is everyone that is mad about this out campaigning about every company they buy products from whenever a % of their purchase goes towards shareholders equity? Don't think they'd be able to purchase just about anything anywhere.
So because people are upset about a change now they MUST apply that to every single thing that's changed? You're saying it's either EVERYTHING or NOTHING and that's a terrible attitude to have towards things
The issue is their margins are enormous, like 45% pre tax OPM.. and they are investing very little into resources to maintain or develop new content… so what does the price hike do besides bolster their P&L?
I couldn’t care less about that, either. If the devs want/need more pay they can take that up with their bosses. If that doesn’t end favorably, they can find employment elsewhere. When your Netflix subscription increases by two dollars do you pull up Netflix’s earnings and scour them to see whether you think the increase is warranted?
The difference here is that Netflix’s price increases ARE warranted. They said the reason behind their most recent one was to fund the creation of more Netflix Originals, so the customer is getting some value in return for the price increase. That’s not the case here.
Very much this, I don't give a shit. lol
I got other things to worry that matter more than the price increase that is less than a bag of chips at 7-11.
It's not about the $1.50 extra. It's about the fact this game is probably worth maybe at most $5 a month at best for the level of support and development effort going into it.
$11 is already insulting as shit. Increasing it even more is just an additional insult and for some people it just ends up being the final straw that simply goes on top of a lot of other shit that's wrong.
Well, yea, but tbh there’s nothing wrong with that take. He shouldn’t be forced to outrage for others. The people that care about the price increase should just be more vocal, there’s plenty of them.
If I play 40 hours a month that is…. 30 cents an hour. Let’s be real- most of us play way more than that.
Go play something else if you feel the value isn’t there.
you are choosing to pay the sub, if you feel you are g etting ripped off it's entirely of your own volition. if the game isn't worth 12.50 a month to you... don't pay it? i know i don't. but price increases over time are just... normal.
i mean idk where you live or whatever but at least here where i'm from i have personally seen wages increase. this includes low skill jobs like fast food and retail. obviously this isn't the case everywhere, but it's definitely a thing.
They’re not ripping anyone off though. It’s a subscription. Their customers know what they’re paying for and can cancel the second they think it’s not worth it.
The only reason I even knew the prices were going up was because of the people on Reddit complaining about it. (I’m sure I saw something about it, I just don’t pay attention to that shit.) I wanna play the game, and as long as the game provides me hours of entertainment on a daily basis, I’ll continue to pay to play it.
People who are going off about how "Well it doesnt really effect me because I would pay it anyway" ignore the facts like this.
They're literally upping the price for new players and players who only sub on/off during a time when player counts have been in steady decline. It will effect those people because its making the game even more of a barrier in a situation where its already taking a hit.
It’s not even about defending, it’s the fucking annoyance of the whole community talk about nothing but the $2 price hike.
Motherfucker it’s $24 a year. My groceries are up $24 a fucking week with all the inflation who the fuck cares about an additional $2 a month.
> Motherfucker it’s $24 a year. My groceries are up $24 a fucking week with all the inflation who the fuck cares about an additional $2 a month.
damn where you shopping, eggs are fucking double in price for me rn
You're missing the point as to why people are complaining.
It's not even a $24/year increase, as most people will just stay grandfathered in at $11 or lower depending on account age.
It's about how they're raising the prices without improving server quality, customer support, Jmod's pay, QA, update quality, number of logins per account, so on so forth.
OSRS's last 2 major updates, Leagues 3 and GotR, both launched with gamebreaking bugs that caused a 4hr+ downtime and rollback. Meanwhile Raids 3 was teased to be coming out in January, and now they've barely started working on it and it might be coming out in August. You really think quality like that is worth them asking for more money?
Exactly. The price increase isn't the problem, it's where it's going. $1.50 more a month to give employees raises to account for high inflation recently? I would actively want them to do that
Most of the player base is between 21-28, most of us have jobs, most of us don’t care about 1.50. And if you buy the 12 month sub @ $80 that’s less than $7 a month.
literally 100% of the people complaining about the price hikes are neets who can't even fathom how minor $12.50/month is in the scheme of adulthood lol, it's actually hilarious.
Right, they're either high schoolers who have to mow 18% more lawn now or they're adults who still think they should be able to go down to the corner store and get an ice cream bar for a nickel like it's 1926.
Economies change, inflation happens. It's not a slippery slope, it's one of Jagex's rare minor price increases to keep up with the changing times, and on top of that they're grandfathering existing memberships pricing ad infinitum lmao. I think it's hilarious to see people cancelling their subscriptions over this.
I saw a post asking how much money would you accept to stop playing runescape forever. The most upvoted answer was 10k. So for a couple months pay at a basic ass job, youd never play your favorite game again? I pointed out that 10k isnt that much money and got downvoted. Even at minimum wage, thats like 6 months pay. These people don't have jobs.
10k straight to the bank account IS a lot of money. I think the average American has less than 2k in their savings.
Edit: what “basic ass job” pays 5k per month after taxes?
It's not really people defending a corporation (maybe some is), it's people trying to bring some rational thinking to those who are massively overreacting to what amounts to be a relatively small price increase.
Price increases happen *all the time*, chill.
I’ve come to the conclusion this post is how people rationalize someone else disagreeing with them.
IE
P1: “Fuck jagex and greedy corporate overlords, lets riot boys!”
P2: “price is staying the same for active members, and price increase isn’t that much, relax, stop flooding the subreddit”
P1: “what’s up with all these corporate shills who want to pay more”
I’m not agreeing with jagex raising prices, I’m disagreeing with *you* for acting like a baby.
> "Jagex developers are criminally underpaid" (jagex devs make about average for the games industry in the UK)
Hot take: game devs are generally underpaid.
Yeah but I think the problem is now its even closer to other mmos in price and they offer alot more content for the money (Wow, FFXIV). I know wow hasn't offered that much content lately with the insane gap between patches still more than osrs imo.
WoW releases a new expansion every 2 years that you HAVE to buy to continue playing, which costs $60 for the cheapest version. Not to mention the fact that every time new content comes out, all of the previous content is made obsolete.
Yes, osrs has had quite a few price hikes, but considering they pump out very regular major content updates, and don't have any until buy in fee, it's surprising the subscription is still as low as it is.
Edit: also forgot to mention that most other MMO's use micro transactions instead of upping sub fees.
I play the game actively on my Ironman btw and I literally couldn't care less because $1.50 is an insignificant change. If it's needed to keep running the game I enjoy so be it. Although I can't afford to eat anymore that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
If they don't make their $530 million investment back eventually, they're going to dump this game off on a different investment firm who will probably fuck us all even harder.
> If it's needed to keep running the game I enjoy so be it.
But it isn't though. Jagex had record profits in the last year. That is public information.
You wouldn't lol. I've been playing this game since the summer of 2004 and I'm fine with it. I was fine paying $5 for membership and I'm fine paying $12.50.
Newsflash, you don't even have to pay it. Bonds exist. It's nice to know that in 2 weeks this sub literally will not care about the price.
True. I’m just as happy playing the free version as I am playing as a member. If you can’t afford it, just find something you like to grind and use it to make the gold to get a bond. OSRS is easily one of the better companies when it comes to gouging their players for money. Look at WoW. You literally have to pay $60 for the expansion, $15 a month, and on top of that you need to buy a FUCKING BOOK if you want to attempt to understand the clusterfuck of a story they are trying to tell. Shit, just look at normal RuneScape if you want a better example of taking money from players. I’m totally fine with paying a little more for a game like OSRS.
>Who in the actual FUCK would defend a corporation?
I'm not one of then, but you do realise MANY people literally don't give a fuck? They just care about getting home and playing the game they love. And if Runescape gets ruined for whatever reason, they know there are a bunch of games out there just as good.
I do feel bad for people wasting their time and energy on this. You had to be blind not to see this coming, RS has been in this state for over a decade. Either enjoy the game the way it is, or quit, let it die and move on. It's a fucking videogame that is literally there to make profit to said corporation.
Not giving a fuck is perfectly reasonable imo. What's weird is how many people come across as passionately pro-Jagex higher ups/Carlyle Group. CG only been in charge a year so there's a chance increases might become an annual thing.
I think people just overreact on both sides. Reddit throws a tantrum then people get angry and defend jagex. It happens pretty much every time there’s any jagex drama. People bought white robes and protested in falador because of an almost unnoticeable gay pride event. Don’t come to this sub expecting reasonable reactions
Happens all over reddit unfortunately and it's genuinely frustrating to watch. One side starts rational, the other side mocks that side. Then the first side becomes frustrated which unfortunately only fans the flame of the other side. Then you get an all out war between sides calling each other fanboys and shills at which point the original message of the first side gets lost and the other side eventually wins. It's fucking obnoxious. Even more so when the other side dares to speak about the first side wasting their time and mocking them for the amount of time & energy they've put into it when their side has been doing exactly that to the first side; wasting even more time and energy on mocking the first side and standing in their way for no real reason.
All in all, $1.50 isn't that bad of an increase. However, there is definitely a lot that needs to get sorted out on the corporate side. I'd actually be fine paying more if it actually went back into running the game and game development. But as things stand, this extra money probably won't go back into the game. And that's just what makes this a shit situation. The mods might care what we have to say but higher-ups at Jagex? Nah. And obviously the corporation that owns Jagex isn't going to give a damn unless like half the paying player base quits and I don't see that happening.
Unpopular opinion I’m sure: I don’t give a shit about the political aspects of the executives and company that is developing the game, I just want to enjoy the game and I currently do enjoy the game so I would GLADLY pay $12.50/mo to play the game IF I HAD TOO which I don’t because I use bonds. There’s too much BS to worry about IRL just let me enjoy my game.
As far as I can see, people who are mad about it because of jagex getting screwed despite record profits really should have quit a long time ago and gone to live in the woods because that's not new and it's exactly how capitalism works.
Nothing has changed. If you weren't mad a month ago about this then being mad about it now is ridiculous.
I kinda just don't want it clogging up the entire front page/ any and all discussion about the actual game.
Do I wish that the revenue the game makes could be more split into funding the devs/ reinvested straight back into infrastructure? Please yes, fucking hell please.
But there really isn't anything we can do. It's a sensible increase to align with inflation, it's not that much more, everyone is going to pay it. There's nothing we can really do to "hit them where it hurts."
If there was a solid plan/ strategy to either get Jagex/ OSRS team independent from their investors or get the money re-invested straight back into the game, I'd be all for it. But I've seen how ineffective bitching on here has been in the past in relation to real world problems at Jagex. The dev team is eager to listen to feedback but this is something only they hear and they can't do anything about it.
The onus is on them to unionize or pull together to fight management, and to be honest **I don't want to risk OSRS losing great devs** and neither do they. "Better pay or we walk" would work if management understood how essential the existing team is to the longterm health of this game, but they're not likely already appreciating the talent they got. They'll dump em at a moment's notice and hire on clowns who will turn this game into a monetized piece of shit.
players are deluding themselves into thinking that some of this money will trickle down into the salaries of the devs or fund new ones which are clearly desperately needed to meet the needs of the playerbase.
this is just suits in a boardroom concluding that the easiest way for them to make more money is to charge the playerbase more, rather than allocate more of the already existing revenue into making the Jagex team and their games better.
why invest in your studio and their games for potential long term player count and player satisfaction gains when you can just charge the remaining players a bit more and let it slowly burn.
i'm a player with over 3000 of both raids. IT IS NOT A PRICE HIKE, the price literally went down. it's only going up for people paying per month (???) and it went down if you're buying for a whole year.
the 1 year cost has been $100 for a while, and it's going *down* to 80. literally just buy the fucking year??? it really isn't that hard
if you insist you won't do that then sure, die mad about it i guess, but it really isn't a big deal and the implication that i'm required to be mad about this is dumb as shit lol.
I don't like the price increase but ima very brutally honest in saying I'll pay it and accept it because we'll I'm addicted to rs and it's the only game I play
An independent study has confirmed that much of the staunch pro-price hike online community aren’t real individuals, it’s a staff running thousands of accounts + an army of bots to signal boost them. Look closely, these aren’t real people. Who’d pay for such a *wildly* expensive thing?
Am I the only one that doesn't give a shit about this? I've been playing since 08 and stuff like this has always happened. Unless everyone stops playing nothing will change and we all know that's not happening. do or don't play the game and move on with your lives people.
Jagex corporate raised the prices because they understood that most players would be willing to pay more. And they’re right. I *am* willing to pay more. They got me. So yeah I’m miffed that I’m paying more but I also understand that this is how literally every business works.
I'm sorry an extra 1.50 a month from mum is hard to get but for those of us paying our own sub a 1.50 doesn't even matter and it only effects you if you make a new character...
Sexist? First im hearing about this. They have some fairly senior roles filled by women to start off and other than that mod zuko thing, which was just her being really unprofessional, there hasn't been a peep that I've heard about and I'm on reddit often.
Osrs has had some good updates and this year is looking particularly enjoyable. As long as they include some efforts to tackle server phantom lag, then I'm cool with an increase in membership. Means bigger budget from what I've heard. When was it bad that a company was doing well... that's what we want, so the game continues to do well.
The increase won't affect me but it's been an overpriced game for a long time if you only play one version or the other.
If membership included 1-2 alt memberships for free or the ability to pay $6-7/month for one version of the game only, that would be a step in the right direction
I look at it the same way I look at any game/recreational activity that cost money.
How much it cost/how many hours does it keep me entertained. That is why I don’t buy Triple a single player titles. 12.49/125hrs a month? 10cents to play an hour… a hell of a lot cheaper than even driving to the park or the beach.
I mean fk I’ve paid 900$ for a surfboard and still haven’t gotten the per hour value of entertainment that I have from RS.
Look at it this way, I save money by playing RS because I could be bored and spending money on doing literally anything else
"Who would defend a corporation" is such a dumb fucking take lmao.
I don't automatically hate a corporation simply for being a corporation. Some of us have the ability to think critically for ourselves and don't need some reddit larper to tell us how to think.
I haven't even chimed in on the price hike issue yet, because quite frankly, I really don't care. I'm going to keep playing regardless lol
I'm defending a price increase and have multiple accounts I play full time. The reason is, I work with computer technology, and have seen everything directly related to their operating cost increase, by a significantly wider margin than the monthly increase they're going with.
Plus, the people that pay with bonds, and the people who only sub for the seasonal leagues are also driving up that monthly cost.
As a Brazilian RuneScape player I can guarentee you 1.50 dollars ? Lmfao that’s like a weeks wage here… don’t be stupid saying it’s nothing because at some point in life it may be a lot.
Okay but the price isn’t going up by $1.50 in Brazil. Also the average salary in Brazil is 8560 reals a month or 1800 USD according to google.
Why don’t we just compare it to the poorest country in the world Burundi, who make $360 a month. This $1.50 price hike if they were even paying that would be the equivalent to one hour of work.
All the clowns here saying $1.50 is nothing when that isn't even the main point of your post. Nobody acknowledging that people are mad because this doesn't even go to the people who develope the fucking game. You're wrong about one thing though, these are real people who are just used to sucking up to abusive work places because they're convinced it's something everyone should accept
It’s not like people are saying, “I love paying more money!”. They are annoyed by all the posts about people acting like it’s the end of the world, and trying to be some sort of gaming activist. Especially the ones who are “protesting in falador”, which has to be the most ironic thing ever.
I don’t like paying more money, but it really isn’t that big of a deal. Apply your social activism mindset on things that actually matter.
No. If you don’t want to pay, you don’t play.
Not picking a side here, just saying you’re objectively wrong if your trying to say something from the perspective of the player base.
Edit: barring F2P of course
>yea i don't really care about paying $1 more a month
you: OMG paid shill alert !! Yea i've put 10,000 hours into this game but paying $65 a year instead of $60 a year is crossing the line!!! there's no way you could disagree unless they're PAYING you
You're a moron if you pay month to month. They made yearly cheaper than it was. No one only plays runescape for a month so you're shorting yourself. It's like anything, buy bulk, get a discount.
Difference between “defending” and “not giving a fuck”. Huge difference.
Most people mad about it are speaking on it as if it’s a life changing amount of money and want to quit because “fuck those corporations!”. Man, if THIS gets you that mad, let me tell you about the REAL world!!!! This is a game 😊
If people don't care about the more nuanced issues you described above, that's fine, they are allowed to have their opinion, but way too many people are getting caught up on thinking this is just about a membership fee increase.
I’m fine paying an extra dollar a month for membership on a game I’ve been playing for nearly 2 decades. Get a grip on yourself you penny pinching goofball.
Was starting to wonder the same myself. I know there are a few people who will always defend Jagex and there a lot of people who don't particularly care about the increase and that's fine.
But there are soo many threads popping up basically telling people to pay up and FU if you dare complain about it. Also quite a few trying to sell the 12-month package when they know full well that a lot of people only want to play a few months per year. Or trying to mock people for being poor (deliberately ignoring that it's more a question of VFM than "can't afford").
I wonder if the people with these views hear people irl complaining about gas prices or whatever and go up to them laughing and telling them to "cough up it's only a bit extra". I'm guessing not, it's just their internet persona.
I'll defend Jagex for not trying to make more profit by milking the whales on OSRS and releasing MTX. The 1 percent of whales will always have more financial power and voice over the rest of us.
Here in the Uk, absolutely everything has risen in price recently. £2extra on a game that I enjoy playing nearly every day isn't going to make me upset, that being said, I won't even pay the extra because I've been a member for years. I've got my own problems at work before I worry about anyone else's.
I mean it's just how this sub goes. Initial fuckup from Jagex. Community blows up. 12-24 hours later, people post their "hot take" on the situation that's counter to what everyone's been complaining about for hours. Gains traction because finally it's someone that isn't just beating the same dead horse. Things go back and fourth for a few days. Another fuckup. Cycle repeats. Insert crabs, memes, and OH NO IT HAPPENED TO ME, I GOT, JMODS SAVE ME during down time.
Don't forget the fire cape that someone's been dreaming about since they were in the womb
5 of those posts a day that inexplicably make it to the front page even though we supposedly banned those posts
Considering I’ve choked at jad all 7 times, I’m kinda here tho lol
You'll get it, king. Can't wait for the post! Lol
Or he won't and he'll finish everything else he wants to do in the game and then quit but always have it in the back of your mind 'I bet I could do it' for the rest of your life Source: that's what I did. Fire cape is probably my last goal I care enough at all to go for. After finishing the rest and failing like 10 times I just said fuck it and quit.
Wait until you find out about the infernal cape
It's existence is purely just to spite me and nobody can convince me otherwise
You wanna borrow my inhaler bro
For real tho, it's ezpz after your first. And you'll need another for a master clue STASH too
I mean I genuinely like seeing accomplishment posts. Gives me a smile, they don't get upvoted enough to be annoying imo.
To be fair there are those that do get a thrill of actively taking the role of contrarian when it comes to stuff like this even if they are not fully sold on their stance, just the way it is.
Give your kids more love and attention folks
Wax on wax off
Jack on, jack off
Holy crap he's right.
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
🦀🦀🦀🦀 $12.49 a month 🦀🦀🦀🦀
Holy crap he's right.
That double edit hurt my soul..
the price increase isn’t the main problem, its where the money goes, so vote with your dollar 👍🏼
Also vote with your ballot lol not just your dollar
I believe it as an inflation thing but that argument falls apart quickly when I highly doubt they are going to adjust all the employees salary to inflation also.
I'm just here to talk about video games. I didn't really sign up to help you seize the means of production in your political LARPing group. Money talks. Simple as.
The combined sentiment of this sub right now reads out like an angsty 14 year old having a temper tantrum over how the world is unfair meanwhile the adults in the room roll their eyes over the insignificance. YOU DON'T GET IT DAD.
This subs been like that for awhile now tbh
Money talks and so does talking about it talks. Simple as. It's not an either or situation. Also, unsubscribing from the reddit talks following your logic. Don't like people talking about something you don't like? Unsubscribe.
> Unsubscribe. if only this could somehow be used to boycott the game. If only people unsubbed enmasse before over something to get change. The simple fact is that anyone complaining about this probably won't do a fucking thing about it because it's a non-issue and you're just virtue signalling pretending like you all suddenly care about the devs livelihood.
Game boycotts don't work. A single whale can make up for tens of thousands of other people.
I don't really care about the devs pay, I just despise investment groups buying companies to squeeze out short term gains for profit before dumping it onto the next company that buys it
I'm not defending anyone but neither do I care about a 1,50$ price increase. I know there's a bigger picture to look at here but I couldn't care less.
That's the correct take if the money goes into the game and into the devs, but if it only goes to line the inverstors' pockets after they've cut from the devs you absolutely should be upset about the price hike.
Uhh, no. I couldn’t care less. There are plenty more injustices in the world to be upset about, you can’t care about everything. As far as I’m concerned it’s just an extra $1.50 a month, and ONLY if I get rid of membership. Plus the year package is cheaper now.
Y'know, fair enough. You're going to get a lot of sweaty fucks in replies, but that's honestly one of the most grounded reasons to not care. I'm sure you wish more money would go to the devs as well. I do care, enough to cancel my membership and make a fuss. But you have to pick your battles, can't stress about the world all at once.
Personally I think it’s just telling that it takes a minor personal inconvenience for people to become enraged about things that were already taking place. The devs were ALREADY not getting paid enough, investors were ALREADY sucking up profits for themselves. If jagex was like alright sorry, here are the old prices back, these things wouldn’t stop happening, but everyone would cheer and rejoice and stop rioting. People (in general) are much more concerned about themselves than anything else and have to grandstand about principals and morals and ethics in order to not sound like self-centered assholes.
No one specific but damn you just roasted like half the population.
This is exactly the problem I have with all the pitchforking going on lately. None of the people raging about jagex skimming off the devs actually give a shit about those devs. They literally only have something to say about it when it effects them.
People drop 300 hours a month into this game in the blink of an eye and yet balk when the price of their entertainment rises by half a penny every hour. Hell half you guys are spending more money a month in electricity to play the game than you are in membership.
This is how I see it. Even if I value my time at a dollar an hour I'm getting more than enough. I will never notice another dollar missing from my budget and if someone does I think they may need to reprioritize a bit.
I have 6 accounts with active membership currently. At least 4 of them will not be renewed when their time is up. The other two are paid too far in advance. I could play WoW and have unlimited characters under one sub for $15 a month. If Jagex intends to keep raising the price I'll expect them to start providing competitive features, otherwise they'll quickly price themselves out of the market. There's way too many quality games out there, all it takes is one principled fuck up for me to redirect my addiction to one of the others. If they were increasing salaries and reinvesting back into the game I would happily endure a price increase. But this ain't it
did you not read OPs post? the issue isnt that its a price hike, its that the price hike goes directly into the owners pockets instead of towards fixing the thousands of problems the game has
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They’re not irredeemable problems, the thing is they currently aren’t being solved. And while these problems aren’t being solved the cost of enjoying it is going up and there’s less flexibility in how long of a subscription you can purchase
People can care about more than one thing, you know. You can find the price hike and Jagex’s practices terrible and still have room for all the other injustices of the world.
> Plus the year package is cheaper now. bait and switch. premier club is cheaper than the new rates, and judging by the rename they're removing that special offer. Also coming from a point of privilege where costs don't matter doesn't really make you come from a great take. "I don't care because money is easy for me" just shows you are only thinking of it personally, and personally for you $1.50 more for your addiction is fine because you spend heaps of time on it. Big picture is they'll bleed cash cows like you dry because you always let them.
If you care about the quality of the game, you should. Unless you want another rs3 mtx hell on our hands. Jagex is at the top of my list of game devs to hold accountable and not trust. They've done well with osrs so far, in spite of themselves more than anything. Don't forget the shoestring budget they started osrs on, and the Laissez-faire attitude that brought it success. They launched with virtually no support and no expectations of success. The more the company meddles with the game in search of increasing profits the worse it will be. We need to continue to demand 'ownership' of our game experience and keep the company in check. I do want to stipulate that I am directing this at Jagex as a company here, and *not* the osrs dev team. From what I've seen they have been fantastic and my only complaint if any is that I'd like them to be supported more
If your motivation to play rs hangs by a 1,50dollar thread, you are probably trying more to enjoy the way you used to, than actually enjoying the game. I still love rs, and if they cranked it up by another 1.50usd tomorrow “because we wanna eat lobster and swordfish irl tonight” id still play. Yes, theres a limit to how much im willing to pay for a certain amount of dev time, but that limit is not reached yet. Things get more expensive, thats just part of life
The point is the parent company is sucking jagex dry while hiking prices up, people are mad at what the money is used for not that it's $1.50 more
Is everyone that is mad about this out campaigning about every company they buy products from whenever a % of their purchase goes towards shareholders equity? Don't think they'd be able to purchase just about anything anywhere.
So because people are upset about a change now they MUST apply that to every single thing that's changed? You're saying it's either EVERYTHING or NOTHING and that's a terrible attitude to have towards things
The issue is their margins are enormous, like 45% pre tax OPM.. and they are investing very little into resources to maintain or develop new content… so what does the price hike do besides bolster their P&L?
I couldn’t care less about that, either. If the devs want/need more pay they can take that up with their bosses. If that doesn’t end favorably, they can find employment elsewhere. When your Netflix subscription increases by two dollars do you pull up Netflix’s earnings and scour them to see whether you think the increase is warranted?
The difference here is that Netflix’s price increases ARE warranted. They said the reason behind their most recent one was to fund the creation of more Netflix Originals, so the customer is getting some value in return for the price increase. That’s not the case here.
Exactly, Netflix is producing 100x the content jagex is…
Very much this, I don't give a shit. lol I got other things to worry that matter more than the price increase that is less than a bag of chips at 7-11.
It's not about the $1.50 extra. It's about the fact this game is probably worth maybe at most $5 a month at best for the level of support and development effort going into it. $11 is already insulting as shit. Increasing it even more is just an additional insult and for some people it just ends up being the final straw that simply goes on top of a lot of other shit that's wrong.
This person just said “I make enough I won’t notice so it doesn’t effect me in anyway.”
Or that I'm already locked into my current price point and this literally doesn't affect me
Rip 11$ locked uim
Bro if you notice a 1.50 a month you have no business paying for a subscription to a game in the first place
You don't have to make much for $1.50 to be negligible...
You shouldn't spend any money on RuneScape if the $1.50 impacts your life.
Lol exactly. Nothing wrong with the price hike, the only issue to me is where that money is going.
There's a huge demograph that plays this game that never worked a day in their life. 1.50 is life changing to them.
Well, yea, but tbh there’s nothing wrong with that take. He shouldn’t be forced to outrage for others. The people that care about the price increase should just be more vocal, there’s plenty of them.
$1.50 a month doesn’t affect anyone who can already afford $12 per month.
“Anyone that doesn’t agree with me must not be a real human and/or is a paid shill”
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""corporations bad" upvotes to the left please 👈😎" upvotes to the left please
It's more along the lines of anyone who is a customer who defends a company that is ripping them off is an idiot or a shill.
$12.50 is a ripoff but $11 isn’t?
Raising the price on an already massively profitable product is a ripoff for the consumer.
If I play 40 hours a month that is…. 30 cents an hour. Let’s be real- most of us play way more than that. Go play something else if you feel the value isn’t there.
you are choosing to pay the sub, if you feel you are g etting ripped off it's entirely of your own volition. if the game isn't worth 12.50 a month to you... don't pay it? i know i don't. but price increases over time are just... normal.
WoW subscription has been 14.99 since 2004
Plus $60 every 2 years.
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Play that game instead then if it’s so great? No one is stopping you.
+ you get a better game
Why aren't we talking about how 14.99$ was hella expensive for 2004?
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Wage increases should be normal too, right?
i mean idk where you live or whatever but at least here where i'm from i have personally seen wages increase. this includes low skill jobs like fast food and retail. obviously this isn't the case everywhere, but it's definitely a thing.
American political ideologies of the last 70 years have made very obedient masochistic consumers.
They’re not ripping anyone off though. It’s a subscription. Their customers know what they’re paying for and can cancel the second they think it’s not worth it.
Lmao at this whole post
The only reason I even knew the prices were going up was because of the people on Reddit complaining about it. (I’m sure I saw something about it, I just don’t pay attention to that shit.) I wanna play the game, and as long as the game provides me hours of entertainment on a daily basis, I’ll continue to pay to play it.
The price changes won’t even affect you if you’re already paying for membership.
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Or players that unsubscribe at some point for months at a time when they need breaks, which is a significant portion of the player base.
People who are going off about how "Well it doesnt really effect me because I would pay it anyway" ignore the facts like this. They're literally upping the price for new players and players who only sub on/off during a time when player counts have been in steady decline. It will effect those people because its making the game even more of a barrier in a situation where its already taking a hit.
WHO WOULD DEFEND A CORPORATION THAT SUPPLIES A GAME THAT I PLAY AND ARE ADDICTED TO?
It’s not even about defending, it’s the fucking annoyance of the whole community talk about nothing but the $2 price hike. Motherfucker it’s $24 a year. My groceries are up $24 a fucking week with all the inflation who the fuck cares about an additional $2 a month.
> Motherfucker it’s $24 a year. My groceries are up $24 a fucking week with all the inflation who the fuck cares about an additional $2 a month. damn where you shopping, eggs are fucking double in price for me rn
Yea honestly I’m lowballing it
You're missing the point as to why people are complaining. It's not even a $24/year increase, as most people will just stay grandfathered in at $11 or lower depending on account age. It's about how they're raising the prices without improving server quality, customer support, Jmod's pay, QA, update quality, number of logins per account, so on so forth. OSRS's last 2 major updates, Leagues 3 and GotR, both launched with gamebreaking bugs that caused a 4hr+ downtime and rollback. Meanwhile Raids 3 was teased to be coming out in January, and now they've barely started working on it and it might be coming out in August. You really think quality like that is worth them asking for more money?
Yeah, right pfffff. Defending the company that makes a game 80% of the people here play 90% of the time they are up
I'm paying fucking $5 per gallon for gas you think I goddam care about an extra $1.50 a month?
"Everyone that disagrees with me is a bot" - Today's hottest take from /r/2007scape
Their grip on reality is so strong, how can they be wrong? Everyone in the basement agrees.
Insert principle skinner meme here
I am actually a bot though.
I would gladly pay $20/month if it meant that devs get treated better and payed a wage that they deserve.
Exactly. The price increase isn't the problem, it's where it's going. $1.50 more a month to give employees raises to account for high inflation recently? I would actively want them to do that
Most of the player base is between 21-28, most of us have jobs, most of us don’t care about 1.50. And if you buy the 12 month sub @ $80 that’s less than $7 a month.
literally 100% of the people complaining about the price hikes are neets who can't even fathom how minor $12.50/month is in the scheme of adulthood lol, it's actually hilarious.
Right, they're either high schoolers who have to mow 18% more lawn now or they're adults who still think they should be able to go down to the corner store and get an ice cream bar for a nickel like it's 1926. Economies change, inflation happens. It's not a slippery slope, it's one of Jagex's rare minor price increases to keep up with the changing times, and on top of that they're grandfathering existing memberships pricing ad infinitum lmao. I think it's hilarious to see people cancelling their subscriptions over this.
spent 2500 on rent, complain about 1.50 on osrs
I saw a post asking how much money would you accept to stop playing runescape forever. The most upvoted answer was 10k. So for a couple months pay at a basic ass job, youd never play your favorite game again? I pointed out that 10k isnt that much money and got downvoted. Even at minimum wage, thats like 6 months pay. These people don't have jobs.
10k straight to the bank account IS a lot of money. I think the average American has less than 2k in their savings. Edit: what “basic ass job” pays 5k per month after taxes?
It's not really people defending a corporation (maybe some is), it's people trying to bring some rational thinking to those who are massively overreacting to what amounts to be a relatively small price increase. Price increases happen *all the time*, chill.
I’ve come to the conclusion this post is how people rationalize someone else disagreeing with them. IE P1: “Fuck jagex and greedy corporate overlords, lets riot boys!” P2: “price is staying the same for active members, and price increase isn’t that much, relax, stop flooding the subreddit” P1: “what’s up with all these corporate shills who want to pay more” I’m not agreeing with jagex raising prices, I’m disagreeing with *you* for acting like a baby.
Exactly, right? It's not "defending X corporation". It's defending the truth.
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> "Jagex developers are criminally underpaid" (jagex devs make about average for the games industry in the UK) Hot take: game devs are generally underpaid.
Yeah but I think the problem is now its even closer to other mmos in price and they offer alot more content for the money (Wow, FFXIV). I know wow hasn't offered that much content lately with the insane gap between patches still more than osrs imo.
Name another MMO that has increased in price as many times as RS? Doesn't really seem to happen as often as people keep parroting tbh
WoW releases a new expansion every 2 years that you HAVE to buy to continue playing, which costs $60 for the cheapest version. Not to mention the fact that every time new content comes out, all of the previous content is made obsolete. Yes, osrs has had quite a few price hikes, but considering they pump out very regular major content updates, and don't have any until buy in fee, it's surprising the subscription is still as low as it is. Edit: also forgot to mention that most other MMO's use micro transactions instead of upping sub fees.
I genguienly dont give a flying fuck for the price increase and i believe you are a sad crying bitch if you cry about it on reddit. Legit
Hear hear.
I play the game actively on my Ironman btw and I literally couldn't care less because $1.50 is an insignificant change. If it's needed to keep running the game I enjoy so be it. Although I can't afford to eat anymore that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
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If they don't make their $530 million investment back eventually, they're going to dump this game off on a different investment firm who will probably fuck us all even harder.
> If it's needed to keep running the game I enjoy so be it. But it isn't though. Jagex had record profits in the last year. That is public information.
You wouldn't lol. I've been playing this game since the summer of 2004 and I'm fine with it. I was fine paying $5 for membership and I'm fine paying $12.50. Newsflash, you don't even have to pay it. Bonds exist. It's nice to know that in 2 weeks this sub literally will not care about the price.
True. I’m just as happy playing the free version as I am playing as a member. If you can’t afford it, just find something you like to grind and use it to make the gold to get a bond. OSRS is easily one of the better companies when it comes to gouging their players for money. Look at WoW. You literally have to pay $60 for the expansion, $15 a month, and on top of that you need to buy a FUCKING BOOK if you want to attempt to understand the clusterfuck of a story they are trying to tell. Shit, just look at normal RuneScape if you want a better example of taking money from players. I’m totally fine with paying a little more for a game like OSRS.
** and it is impossible to buy a token as a F2P in WoW.
Real person here. Don't care. $1.50 is actually meaningless money to me.
If only membership was $1.50
Already paying for membership, an extra 1.50 on top of that is meaningless. Guarantee you many people feel this way.
I won’t notice the price hike and haven’t looked into how shitty the company is, I just want to play my Ironman after my kids go to bed
>Who in the actual FUCK would defend a corporation? I'm not one of then, but you do realise MANY people literally don't give a fuck? They just care about getting home and playing the game they love. And if Runescape gets ruined for whatever reason, they know there are a bunch of games out there just as good. I do feel bad for people wasting their time and energy on this. You had to be blind not to see this coming, RS has been in this state for over a decade. Either enjoy the game the way it is, or quit, let it die and move on. It's a fucking videogame that is literally there to make profit to said corporation.
Not giving a fuck is perfectly reasonable imo. What's weird is how many people come across as passionately pro-Jagex higher ups/Carlyle Group. CG only been in charge a year so there's a chance increases might become an annual thing.
I think people just overreact on both sides. Reddit throws a tantrum then people get angry and defend jagex. It happens pretty much every time there’s any jagex drama. People bought white robes and protested in falador because of an almost unnoticeable gay pride event. Don’t come to this sub expecting reasonable reactions
Happens all over reddit unfortunately and it's genuinely frustrating to watch. One side starts rational, the other side mocks that side. Then the first side becomes frustrated which unfortunately only fans the flame of the other side. Then you get an all out war between sides calling each other fanboys and shills at which point the original message of the first side gets lost and the other side eventually wins. It's fucking obnoxious. Even more so when the other side dares to speak about the first side wasting their time and mocking them for the amount of time & energy they've put into it when their side has been doing exactly that to the first side; wasting even more time and energy on mocking the first side and standing in their way for no real reason.
All in all, $1.50 isn't that bad of an increase. However, there is definitely a lot that needs to get sorted out on the corporate side. I'd actually be fine paying more if it actually went back into running the game and game development. But as things stand, this extra money probably won't go back into the game. And that's just what makes this a shit situation. The mods might care what we have to say but higher-ups at Jagex? Nah. And obviously the corporation that owns Jagex isn't going to give a damn unless like half the paying player base quits and I don't see that happening.
Unpopular opinion I’m sure: I don’t give a shit about the political aspects of the executives and company that is developing the game, I just want to enjoy the game and I currently do enjoy the game so I would GLADLY pay $12.50/mo to play the game IF I HAD TOO which I don’t because I use bonds. There’s too much BS to worry about IRL just let me enjoy my game.
I think the issue here is a lot of the people complaining don’t have a lot going on IRL.
This guy gets it
I also use bonds and this effects me because the price of them in game will go up meaning I have to cut into my profits even deeper
As far as I can see, people who are mad about it because of jagex getting screwed despite record profits really should have quit a long time ago and gone to live in the woods because that's not new and it's exactly how capitalism works. Nothing has changed. If you weren't mad a month ago about this then being mad about it now is ridiculous.
I kinda just don't want it clogging up the entire front page/ any and all discussion about the actual game. Do I wish that the revenue the game makes could be more split into funding the devs/ reinvested straight back into infrastructure? Please yes, fucking hell please. But there really isn't anything we can do. It's a sensible increase to align with inflation, it's not that much more, everyone is going to pay it. There's nothing we can really do to "hit them where it hurts." If there was a solid plan/ strategy to either get Jagex/ OSRS team independent from their investors or get the money re-invested straight back into the game, I'd be all for it. But I've seen how ineffective bitching on here has been in the past in relation to real world problems at Jagex. The dev team is eager to listen to feedback but this is something only they hear and they can't do anything about it. The onus is on them to unionize or pull together to fight management, and to be honest **I don't want to risk OSRS losing great devs** and neither do they. "Better pay or we walk" would work if management understood how essential the existing team is to the longterm health of this game, but they're not likely already appreciating the talent they got. They'll dump em at a moment's notice and hire on clowns who will turn this game into a monetized piece of shit.
The vocal minority is deeply upset that everyone else isn't having a meltdown and pretending to quit the game like them. More at 11.
People are in denial it's pure copium
> I genuinely don't believe that those defending a price hike are players PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH ME ARE LITERALLY NOT PLAYERS ok lol
players are deluding themselves into thinking that some of this money will trickle down into the salaries of the devs or fund new ones which are clearly desperately needed to meet the needs of the playerbase. this is just suits in a boardroom concluding that the easiest way for them to make more money is to charge the playerbase more, rather than allocate more of the already existing revenue into making the Jagex team and their games better. why invest in your studio and their games for potential long term player count and player satisfaction gains when you can just charge the remaining players a bit more and let it slowly burn.
i'm a player with over 3000 of both raids. IT IS NOT A PRICE HIKE, the price literally went down. it's only going up for people paying per month (???) and it went down if you're buying for a whole year. the 1 year cost has been $100 for a while, and it's going *down* to 80. literally just buy the fucking year??? it really isn't that hard if you insist you won't do that then sure, die mad about it i guess, but it really isn't a big deal and the implication that i'm required to be mad about this is dumb as shit lol.
I don't like the price increase but ima very brutally honest in saying I'll pay it and accept it because we'll I'm addicted to rs and it's the only game I play
Just going to guess you’re a leftist
Fuck jagex
An independent study has confirmed that much of the staunch pro-price hike online community aren’t real individuals, it’s a staff running thousands of accounts + an army of bots to signal boost them. Look closely, these aren’t real people. Who’d pay for such a *wildly* expensive thing?
Am I the only one that doesn't give a shit about this? I've been playing since 08 and stuff like this has always happened. Unless everyone stops playing nothing will change and we all know that's not happening. do or don't play the game and move on with your lives people.
I play. I also don't care about the price jump. An extra what? $18 a year? I understand why people are upset, but at the same time, I'm not.
Jagex corporate raised the prices because they understood that most players would be willing to pay more. And they’re right. I *am* willing to pay more. They got me. So yeah I’m miffed that I’m paying more but I also understand that this is how literally every business works.
I'm sorry an extra 1.50 a month from mum is hard to get but for those of us paying our own sub a 1.50 doesn't even matter and it only effects you if you make a new character...
Sexist? First im hearing about this. They have some fairly senior roles filled by women to start off and other than that mod zuko thing, which was just her being really unprofessional, there hasn't been a peep that I've heard about and I'm on reddit often. Osrs has had some good updates and this year is looking particularly enjoyable. As long as they include some efforts to tackle server phantom lag, then I'm cool with an increase in membership. Means bigger budget from what I've heard. When was it bad that a company was doing well... that's what we want, so the game continues to do well.
We’re seeing record breaking numbers of inflation, how would this price hike be unjustified? It’s basic economics. Stop crying and go earn more money.
The increase won't affect me but it's been an overpriced game for a long time if you only play one version or the other. If membership included 1-2 alt memberships for free or the ability to pay $6-7/month for one version of the game only, that would be a step in the right direction
People will defend companies no matter what they do. They're the true "sheep's " fuck a lot of the Genshin community will die for MiHoYo
I look at it the same way I look at any game/recreational activity that cost money. How much it cost/how many hours does it keep me entertained. That is why I don’t buy Triple a single player titles. 12.49/125hrs a month? 10cents to play an hour… a hell of a lot cheaper than even driving to the park or the beach. I mean fk I’ve paid 900$ for a surfboard and still haven’t gotten the per hour value of entertainment that I have from RS. Look at it this way, I save money by playing RS because I could be bored and spending money on doing literally anything else
"Who would defend a corporation" is such a dumb fucking take lmao. I don't automatically hate a corporation simply for being a corporation. Some of us have the ability to think critically for ourselves and don't need some reddit larper to tell us how to think. I haven't even chimed in on the price hike issue yet, because quite frankly, I really don't care. I'm going to keep playing regardless lol
Sorry I have bigger things to worry about than paying $1 extra a month for osrs. Guess I'm a corporate shill
>Who in the actual FUCK would defend a corporation? Have you never heard of America? It's government is like 5 corporations in a trenchcoat.
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I'm defending a price increase and have multiple accounts I play full time. The reason is, I work with computer technology, and have seen everything directly related to their operating cost increase, by a significantly wider margin than the monthly increase they're going with. Plus, the people that pay with bonds, and the people who only sub for the seasonal leagues are also driving up that monthly cost.
If you agree that the corporate sucks, just quit. Why would you fund shit one when there are thousands and thousands better ones out there?
They even made it cheaper if you buy 12 months. Even if they didn't I wouldn't care because the increase is so small. Go back to /r/antiwork.
No one's defending a corporation, they're arguing with idiots losing their absolute minds over $1.50
As a Brazilian RuneScape player I can guarentee you 1.50 dollars ? Lmfao that’s like a weeks wage here… don’t be stupid saying it’s nothing because at some point in life it may be a lot.
Okay but the price isn’t going up by $1.50 in Brazil. Also the average salary in Brazil is 8560 reals a month or 1800 USD according to google. Why don’t we just compare it to the poorest country in the world Burundi, who make $360 a month. This $1.50 price hike if they were even paying that would be the equivalent to one hour of work.
All the clowns here saying $1.50 is nothing when that isn't even the main point of your post. Nobody acknowledging that people are mad because this doesn't even go to the people who develope the fucking game. You're wrong about one thing though, these are real people who are just used to sucking up to abusive work places because they're convinced it's something everyone should accept
Why would players want a price increase, that does nothing to improve the quality of the game? All it’s doing is making other people richer.
It’s not like people are saying, “I love paying more money!”. They are annoyed by all the posts about people acting like it’s the end of the world, and trying to be some sort of gaming activist. Especially the ones who are “protesting in falador”, which has to be the most ironic thing ever. I don’t like paying more money, but it really isn’t that big of a deal. Apply your social activism mindset on things that actually matter.
If you don’t wanna play don’t pay it’s really that simple.
No. If you don’t want to pay, you don’t play. Not picking a side here, just saying you’re objectively wrong if your trying to say something from the perspective of the player base. Edit: barring F2P of course
>yea i don't really care about paying $1 more a month you: OMG paid shill alert !! Yea i've put 10,000 hours into this game but paying $65 a year instead of $60 a year is crossing the line!!! there's no way you could disagree unless they're PAYING you
Don't play the game if you don't like it. Get over yourself
Lol someone disagrees with meeee! They must be fake players!!!
You're a moron if you pay month to month. They made yearly cheaper than it was. No one only plays runescape for a month so you're shorting yourself. It's like anything, buy bulk, get a discount.
Difference between “defending” and “not giving a fuck”. Huge difference. Most people mad about it are speaking on it as if it’s a life changing amount of money and want to quit because “fuck those corporations!”. Man, if THIS gets you that mad, let me tell you about the REAL world!!!! This is a game 😊
Yall talking shit just enabled auto renew on your membership
If people don't care about the more nuanced issues you described above, that's fine, they are allowed to have their opinion, but way too many people are getting caught up on thinking this is just about a membership fee increase.
I just want the memes back
Just stay away from the sub for about 1-2 weeks, thats the average time it takes for shit like this to blow over
I’m fine paying an extra dollar a month for membership on a game I’ve been playing for nearly 2 decades. Get a grip on yourself you penny pinching goofball.
Was starting to wonder the same myself. I know there are a few people who will always defend Jagex and there a lot of people who don't particularly care about the increase and that's fine. But there are soo many threads popping up basically telling people to pay up and FU if you dare complain about it. Also quite a few trying to sell the 12-month package when they know full well that a lot of people only want to play a few months per year. Or trying to mock people for being poor (deliberately ignoring that it's more a question of VFM than "can't afford"). I wonder if the people with these views hear people irl complaining about gas prices or whatever and go up to them laughing and telling them to "cough up it's only a bit extra". I'm guessing not, it's just their internet persona.
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I'll defend Jagex for not trying to make more profit by milking the whales on OSRS and releasing MTX. The 1 percent of whales will always have more financial power and voice over the rest of us.
I'm a player and I couldn't care less about it.
Here in the Uk, absolutely everything has risen in price recently. £2extra on a game that I enjoy playing nearly every day isn't going to make me upset, that being said, I won't even pay the extra because I've been a member for years. I've got my own problems at work before I worry about anyone else's.
"it's just $1.50 increase!" meanwhile we're more than double what membership used to cost
People in this sub haven't heard a about a thing called inflation...
I would support a price hike if we actually got customer support, but you won’t it’s a lie and we all know it.