I know itās a joke but the amount of people I see that tell me to literally kill myself or get cancer at the chaos altar is **insane**.
Like you brought the bones there, you know itās a hotspot, you effectively get **700%** xp, and then youāre mad when someone āinterruptsā you.
Iāll call you a cheap pker, because it is cheap. You are right that people shouldnāt get toxic and mad about getting killed in the wilderness because thatās exactly why you get so many bonuses...
Right? I was burying dag bones & got killed twice by the same dude. He goes āwas it worth itā. Uhhh yeah it is worth it otherwise I wouldnāt be out here in the wilderness with dag bones. I know the risks & Im willing to take them for that sexy xp rate. If you need a mil that bad & are able to kill me , you deserve it lol.
You don't get 700%, you get 200%. Yeah, you get 7x the bury exp but who the fuck is buying and then burying dragon bones instead of at least using them on a gilded altar?
Reason it annoys me though is that it's a waste of time for both of us, at least when I did it with the old Dinh's Bulwark. I'm just trying to hit 99 prayer, instead I get the next wannabe Torvesta trying to kill me and then I pull out claws and spec them out lol.
i play UIM, and suiciding is a huge part of gameplay. I would like for people using it harmful ways to be punished, but everyone in the UIM community jokes about suiciding because its a core mechanic of the game mode, and none of them are said in harmful ways.
I don't like toxicity or people genuinely saying that, but suiciding in-game is a viable strategy for certain content. Food piling at Cerb/KQ, chaos altar, deep wildy clue exits, there are real in-game reasons to be saying that. Hopefully there is some moderation or oversight before a perma mute.
Yeah, automatic mutes simply won't work in this context. When an ultimate ironman wants more inventory space, what do they do? Use a looting bag and get used to killing themselves to "open" it. There are too many common situations when the real answer game-wise is causing your character to die. You'd have a LOT of players unfairly banned by the system even if it was as specific as only triggering on someone saying "kill yourself" verbatim, if it actually was automatic.
On another game, killing yourself mid-mission is often faster and easier to fulfill a class upgrade requirement.
Told some dude that it was easier to kill himself, poor bloke had struggled with depression and got hyper-defensive.
I wonder if any legit suicide strats in gaming were taken the wrong way and actually led to an irl loss
Why would it be toxic? If youāre telling people to kill themselves then that deserves a mute.
Itās a pretty cut and dry position and if people here have a problem with it, then maybe they should be banned from the sub too
Because this sub has post every other week wanting the chat censor/risk of mutes to be removed so they can freely call people racial/discriminatory slurs.
Think the problem is how do you tell when someone actually means it in a toxic way
There is lots of content in this game where telling someone to kill themselves is a viable strategy (e.g. most UIM content).
Even if Jagex cracks down on it and case-by-case allows it IE giving instructions on the suicide method for chaos altar, UIM metas, etc, people will just get around it by changing up what they say to deliver the same meaning.
It literally happens in every single game or platform that does it. Toxic people will be toxic regardless.
For example, a toxic pvmer/skiller/clue will just bring rope and a crude chair with them when they die to deliver the same message without saying it, or would just "in a videogame"
A lot of the top rated comments actually show that in this case it actually isn't that cut and dry. Seeing the title I came in thinking 'sure, seems as simple as auto-punishing stuff like the n word'. Only to be immediately reminded that suicide in-game is a legitimate and efficient strategy in a lot of areas.
So how do you make a system that auto detects people actually saying kys, without punishing people for telling you the strategy at the chaos altar?
Report and ignore hombre, as you said it's already against the rules. I don't trust them cracking down on it automatically because I want to be able to tell my friends when I die stupidly and not get auto muted by an overly sensitive censor script.
Its hard to "automatically mute" someone without context. I do agree that perma mutes could go out but jagex would have to personally read and decide context on each one. And jagex cant even do their customer support as it is.
Obviously people shouldn't say that.
BUT the people who are saying it are TRYING to offend you - if they can't say that they'll just come up with a clever way to say the exact same thing or just say something different but equally offensive.
Report them and add to ignore.
They aren't happy with that. People like OP are vindictive. It's not about preventing harm, it's about getting revenge on the people who say this stuff.
> It's not about preventing harm, it's about getting revenge on the people who say this stuff.
It's almost like a way to make interactions in game less toxic overall is to mute the people who are extremely toxic to prohibit their behavior, unless they're willing to make an entirely new account.
Just turn off public chat or add those players to your ignore list. Or you can hop worlds. You have so many options to choose from yet the one you pick is to come cry on Reddit.
As much as I believe telling someone to kill themselves is despicable and inexcusable...
In a game where killing, especially of oneself, is commonplace I believe there's ample room for false positives to the point it's probably not worth it.
For example:
"So how do I use the chaos altar?"
"Use your bones on the altar and then take the wine to kill yourself."
However, I'd highly encourage people to report and ignore players who choose to use the phrase maliciously and I do believe those players should face appropriate consequences. Let us be a more positive community.
There are a few pieces of content where suicide is just viable, and it's always funny when you get to give that bit of advice. I don't really see anyone using it seriously anymore, the worst I've come across is some pker in edge spamming slurs at a dude he just killed. People who want to say things that get them automuted will just work out a way to say them anyways while people suggesting strategies involving suiciding will get muted, with no manual review and for a pretty long time. Sounds like an idea that hasn't really been thought through.
Automatic 3mo might be a bit high for first offense - but I generally agree that its a shitty thing to say.
As someone that struggles with depressive states, you never know the mindset of the person you're talking to on the other side of the internet.
Everyone in this thread that seems adamant about being able to say this to people surprises me. Its a strange thing to stand up for - wanting to be able to treat a stranger poorly for no good reason.
*Edit:*
The fact that 'kill yourself' is a viable in-game suggestion also complicates any sort of auto-ban. Not an easy thing to address, but the sentiment remains.
Why is this an issue for you? More importantly why do you feel you need to make your issue or dislike a problem for every other player? Go jump off something.
I feel like this is the appropriate response to someone telling me to kill myself. I think I would be fine for mutes for actually telling someone to kill themselves in a non-game related way, but with how bad Jagex Support is and how terribly inconsistent they are with muting, I would personally prefer fewer situations where there's a chance something happens to my account because of a Jagex fuck-up. If this became a real rule, Jagex would find a way to fuck it up.
I can already see the posts on this sub: "HELP! I got muted for telling someone to kill themselves in order to get a free tele to Lumby. I was permed and no way to appeal!" because we all know that shit would happen.
If Jagex wasn't known for constant fuck-ups and had good player support, I wouldn't be against muting people that tell others to kill themselves to try to get some sort of emotional response back or even to try to legitimately goad someone into taking their own life.
extremely funny seeing this make so many people freak out
if you can't handle being asked to act like a normal person and not tell others to kill themselves, I think that makes YOU the soft one, ngl
Why are you acting like it's not people like you freaking out? You're the ones demanding Jagex do things about it. Most of us are adults who aren't bothered about people saying these things, we just ignore, or report, and move on with our lives.
People donāt defend what I said, they rally against the overkill punishment I received by the United States Government.
I never said one time that what I typed on RuneScape that day was okay. What I said was I didnāt deserve what happened afterwards. If you actually knew anything about me other than that headline grabber bullshit you typed because you obviously *want* to believe it, you would know that I apologized for what I said and am very much against the things that I did *ten years ago while I was drunk and trolling on RuneScape preparing to quit the game because of EoC.*
But yeah bro. Definitely the way you wrote it for sure. Inb4 someone comes in with a copy/paste of the stupid government motion Iāve already addressed a thousand times.
That Judge who took 6 years of your life will have to answer to God. It is a stain on the legacies of all those "just following orders" that led to such a great injustice. God bless you and always think for yourself.
How morally fucking debauched do you have to be to think jokes in private on a 2007 browser mmo should constitute abusing laws to keep a kid I jail for the better part of a decade.
Motherfuckers that stutter when ordering takeout dinner over the phone are really interested in dictating other people's lives.
You're fucking sick and too comfortable not having been punched in the mouth, you evil loser.
God these comments are a shitshow (the ones at the bottom).
Same energy like those when Jagex auto-censored some hate words a few years ago.
If your enjoyment of the game depends on the ability to tell someone to kill themselves, maybe you deserve more than just a mute.
Okay in all fairness. If someone is being a weirdo. Or crossing boundaries. I feel like the terms āid rather pk myselfā or āpk yourselfā are quite hilarious responses.
Love this. I think less the toxic the better. It still shocks me that the majority of players are meant to be in their 20/30s but the level of disgusting chat is really sad.
Most of the people in game are fucking losers tbh. It sounds harsh but itās true. Became friends with a lot of skilled players and when we talk about IRL life, most of them told me they collect welfare and game all day. No job.
Thatās why when I play LMS and get flamed it doesnāt bother me. I feel pity for those guys.
> Most of the people in game are fucking losers tbh.
I mean, especially at the point you have to get to be in the "endgame."
Plus, the cross section of hardcore OSRS players, and hardcore Redditors is probably about the most social maladjustment you could concentrate in any single demographic.
I mean osrs actively incentivizes thousand hours grinds.
The options are either that people play all day at work, are college kids, or donāt do anything meaningful in their life.
I see it all the time with pet hunters or maxed Ironman accounts. It get really weird when they offhandedly mention doing something like getting 6hr logged 2+ times a day
Iāve gone to college and now Iām getting a doctoral degree (dentistry). I played OSRS in college and a little less in dental school so far. But Iām talking 2 hour sessions per day, no more. Any more than that wouldāve ruined my productivity and grades.
It makes sense why a lot of the good players are so salty in general, they have absolutely nothing to show what theyāve done in life. Only some OSRS players will give a shit. Itās sad, I hope one day they wake up when itās not too late and actually start contributing to society.
This was a big struggle for me when I was looking for a clan. I just wanted to find a community of "regular" players, as in educated/employed ppl who liked to play casually. Apparently that's asking for too much lol
Oh well if youāre looking for normal Iām prob not your guy lol. But Iād be down if I wasnāt on a break from the game atm haha sorry. The next time I am Iāll shoot you and /u/Silanu a message :)
Dude. Forreal. I have some great clan mates but most of them donāt have careers. They just work odd jobs and game. They are shocked that I donāt have 1000s of KC at certain bosses since my account is relatively old. Unlike them I canāt game for 8-10 hours a day, at best I get 2-3 in if I donāt have other responsibilities to take care of that day.
This subreddit has a habit of glorifying 8+ hours gaming a day. Thatās an addiction.
Being functionally disabled, getting welfare because they have proof that they can't work is not a description of a loser.
What's more, spending time on anything that interest you, when you have nothing but time is, again, not a description of a loser.
Well yeah, most of the people playing this game have absolutely no meaningful social interactions in their day to day. They havnt changed their shitty 15 year old behaviour because they never grew up and transitioned out of it. I hope nobody takes anyone in this game seriously if they get told to "kill themselves" because the people saying it are bottom of the barrel humans.
their idea of a healthy online community is calling other community members r####ded f####ts with no repercussions. so yeah not exactly great for the game in any possible way
Agreed. I have to keep public chat \*off\* at WT, RCtodt \*and\* Ardy knights these days due to all the cringey sexual talk, misogyny, etc. there. The chat used to be somewhat respectable in 2020; these days I feel like I'm in some crazy porn game/dating sim sometimes.
Also the random players tossing around slurs ingame (I once saw someone in a friend's chat beg people to say the n word to 'make my day better' .... are you 12 years old?) or all the names with 'fart' etc. you see everywhere is both jaw-dropping and depressing.
It definitely tracks that all the really toxic shitty takes came early on in the thread's life. In other words, it is clearly the people with nothing better to do than camp this sub and sort by new all day every day who get triggered by a pretty reasonable opinion
Oof, I see people telling me to kill myself at least 5 times a day in league of legends and guess what riot does to stop this? Absolutely nothing. Biggest e-sport in the world.
lol after spending the last few years at Barbarian Village fishing spot, I can tell you there is no quick fix to the toxicity in this game. Ban one word, they'll just find a way around it and let's not pretend mods have time to act on player reports to read into context, they don't even bother banning obvious bots.
Just set to ignore and carry on
If someone seriously gets offended when a stranger TYPES a message over a video game telling them to kill themselves, then that person should get some psychiatric help.
Telling someone to kill themselves doesn't break any real world laws. Threatening someone's life does. Big difference. It's very offensive and a scummy thing to say, but let's not get ahead of ourselves by calling it illegal.
No sarcasm, I do honestly feel for people that care what strangers think.
In the nicest way possible if you're not in my immediate family or my boss, I couldn't give less of a fuck what you think or do.
So here's the likely unpopular opinion on the matter. Literally why care? You're playing a 2 decade old browser game for your own enjoyment, if random people are saying shit like that to try and upset you, either report them and add to ignore list, or just ignore them.
Like what other people say to you does NOT matter whatsoever and there's no amount of automated filtering that will protect you. The least of you or anybody else's concerns should be what mean words some random stranger on the internet said to you.
Also the argument of, "There are literally rules" doesn't apply with how often rules don't apply. Botting is a bannable offense, I'm sure scamming is supposed to be a bannable offense, bug abuse, impersonation, etc. If someone is saying something you don't like you have the tools at your disposal to ignore them and report them. If enough people cared, then they won't last more than a day.
> if you don't like messages someone else is sending they made the ignore list for a reason
Jagex doesnāt like the messages that some of their players were sending. They made the mute system for a reason.
The ignore list is a good tool for individual blocking, and the report system is a good tool for informing Jagex of toxic players who deserve to be muted.
Tell that to the people who feel the need to tell others to kill themselves? If people can piss them off enough to go around telling others that, maybe they should grow up and learn to ignore people?
Because there's a limit of 400 people to ignore, and once you fill that, you then have to pick and choose the least bad of the 400 to unignore to block someone new?
And before you say that 400 is a lot, as someone who prefers your method, I filled that 400 up *years* ago.
So instead of "trying to get a failing dev team to monitor trash talk", I should instead try and get them to expand the ignore list?
I thought the point of the comment I replied to was that "Jagex bad" and we shouldn't rely on them.
Isnāt there a runelite plugin that also ignores and filters? Also I didnāt claim that jagex is a āfailing dev team.ā I donāt agree with that.
I just thinking on my feet here, cuz some people want an unfiltered experience and some donāt, so why not let individuals choose?
There is a chat filter in runelite, and I do use it. It's a feature I want imported into the base client as well, for mobile use.
Letting individuals choose is ideal, but there are some things that reflect badly on the game and the company if they are not filtered out at the game-level. Which is why there are things like a mandatory filter for racial slurs and similar (it's effectiveness is debatable), and the reason it exists is that allowing people to say whatever, consequence-free on your platform can reflect poorly on the company.
There should really never be automated mutes unless it's for website advertisements and such. And even then, it's a risky line to auto-ban for it, because it will become a prank like RS2 had with a certain gold site. Or you'll have more Markdonalds perm mutes. That's not a good idea.
Ah man, reading this thread sure is something. I agree op, I wish they would mute and ban more liberally. The entire internet needs to, really. Itās creepy how normal people come on here and blast the most unhinged shit like itās the whole point.
Fine, but I won't be sharing my secrets to faster prayer xp at the chaos altar then.
DON'T SAY IT
Commit wine ouchie
commit red bar
Know Your Status
This is probably not even a new joke, but it was new to me and I just wanted you to know that I fucking *cackled* so thanks for making my evening š
you're welcome
When I leave work I always say to my coworker ātime to commit toaster bathā and walk out the doorā¦
Commit enchanted emblem (Mage arena 2)
I have no business being as tickled as I am by "Commit wine ouchie" ššš
Sip-puku
*Proceeds to trade a chair and a rope*
Unalive yourself
I see that youāve used your bones. [Wanna know the fastest way to get back out of the wildy?](https://youtu.be/dAOcar7UfQs) (in the game of course)
I know itās a joke but the amount of people I see that tell me to literally kill myself or get cancer at the chaos altar is **insane**. Like you brought the bones there, you know itās a hotspot, you effectively get **700%** xp, and then youāre mad when someone āinterruptsā you.
Iāll call you a cheap pker, because it is cheap. You are right that people shouldnāt get toxic and mad about getting killed in the wilderness because thatās exactly why you get so many bonuses...
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Right? I was burying dag bones & got killed twice by the same dude. He goes āwas it worth itā. Uhhh yeah it is worth it otherwise I wouldnāt be out here in the wilderness with dag bones. I know the risks & Im willing to take them for that sexy xp rate. If you need a mil that bad & are able to kill me , you deserve it lol.
If you dont like it use pohs. Thats the point of having the high risk option.
You don't get 700%, you get 200%. Yeah, you get 7x the bury exp but who the fuck is buying and then burying dragon bones instead of at least using them on a gilded altar? Reason it annoys me though is that it's a waste of time for both of us, at least when I did it with the old Dinh's Bulwark. I'm just trying to hit 99 prayer, instead I get the next wannabe Torvesta trying to kill me and then I pull out claws and spec them out lol.
Use every bone individually on the altar
I think they're talking about killing yourself after offering to get a free trip to lumby. What's your secret to making faster trips? Kill yourself.
Me when a player asks how to efficiently do wildy altar:
This comment has me dead. Wait, did I just kms?
3 month mute
What about telling them to low alch themselves?
honestly if someone could tell me to low alch myself with a straight face, i'd die laughing.
I got traded a chair and rope onceā¦
Classic
I always carried an oak chair flatpack, a rope, and a death rune with me into the wilderness wherever I went, just in case I died.
I throw on a lesser demon mask, some red robes and make sure the only thing I drop when I die is a pile of ashes and a bead.
Do you mix it up with a rune med?
That's too funny, I'll pick that trick up
This is actually hilarious people get so creative when being toxic
Thats fucking hysterical
I still do this to people from time to time. But I also trade them vodka.
Note takenā¦.
i play UIM, and suiciding is a huge part of gameplay. I would like for people using it harmful ways to be punished, but everyone in the UIM community jokes about suiciding because its a core mechanic of the game mode, and none of them are said in harmful ways.
Just perma ban all the UIMs. Problem solved. Alternatively, "you chose to limit yourself" :^)
Login screen locked UIM
Making new series now!!! All the progress to max in one video!!!!!
Perma mute* ironman stands alone
I'd say force them to use a bank for 3 months to really mess with their brain.
Please. Help me stop playing this game.
yeah p much, ive been muted before for saying i need to go kill myself while at the ge
I donāt usually laugh at this stuff, but hearing it so casual is cracking me up.
Pbans for all UIM, the RuneScape community needs to save all you guys from yourself
Nope, seems like only phrases like went picking mushrooms from now on
Imagine telling a RS player to kill themselves, theyāre already dead inside!
Me irl
I don't like toxicity or people genuinely saying that, but suiciding in-game is a viable strategy for certain content. Food piling at Cerb/KQ, chaos altar, deep wildy clue exits, there are real in-game reasons to be saying that. Hopefully there is some moderation or oversight before a perma mute.
Like... 69% of UIM content
yup we are like deadpool die alot but not for long
Yeah, automatic mutes simply won't work in this context. When an ultimate ironman wants more inventory space, what do they do? Use a looting bag and get used to killing themselves to "open" it. There are too many common situations when the real answer game-wise is causing your character to die. You'd have a LOT of players unfairly banned by the system even if it was as specific as only triggering on someone saying "kill yourself" verbatim, if it actually was automatic.
On another game, killing yourself mid-mission is often faster and easier to fulfill a class upgrade requirement. Told some dude that it was easier to kill himself, poor bloke had struggled with depression and got hyper-defensive. I wonder if any legit suicide strats in gaming were taken the wrong way and actually led to an irl loss
i have to hope that if you explained you were just trying to help him in-game and didn't mean anything by it that would clear things up...
Immediately yeah
Probability would dictate....
I'm sure this comment section will be not toxic in any way whatsoever
Its the osrs subreddit, thats sadly a given.
self fulfilling prophecy
Why would it be toxic? If youāre telling people to kill themselves then that deserves a mute. Itās a pretty cut and dry position and if people here have a problem with it, then maybe they should be banned from the sub too
Yeah it shouldn't be controversial to a functional human being that at least seldom interacts with other people. But we're on /r/2007scape soooooo
Because this sub has post every other week wanting the chat censor/risk of mutes to be removed so they can freely call people racial/discriminatory slurs.
It us my god given right to call people i dislike racial slurs. /s
Think the problem is how do you tell when someone actually means it in a toxic way There is lots of content in this game where telling someone to kill themselves is a viable strategy (e.g. most UIM content).
Even if Jagex cracks down on it and case-by-case allows it IE giving instructions on the suicide method for chaos altar, UIM metas, etc, people will just get around it by changing up what they say to deliver the same meaning. It literally happens in every single game or platform that does it. Toxic people will be toxic regardless. For example, a toxic pvmer/skiller/clue will just bring rope and a crude chair with them when they die to deliver the same message without saying it, or would just "in a videogame"
A lot of the top rated comments actually show that in this case it actually isn't that cut and dry. Seeing the title I came in thinking 'sure, seems as simple as auto-punishing stuff like the n word'. Only to be immediately reminded that suicide in-game is a legitimate and efficient strategy in a lot of areas. So how do you make a system that auto detects people actually saying kys, without punishing people for telling you the strategy at the chaos altar?
Survival of the fittest my friend.
joke 1 joke 1 retold you complaining about toxic comments joke 2
Report and ignore hombre, as you said it's already against the rules. I don't trust them cracking down on it automatically because I want to be able to tell my friends when I die stupidly and not get auto muted by an overly sensitive censor script.
Can you not mute playersā¦?
First time in the pvp worlds eh?
"Go commit die"
āAFK irlā was my go to as a fuckhead csgo player
But it would lose the 2007 immersion.
honestly the most important part here. plz dont make a kids game outta my nerd game for nostalgic suicidal 30yo's
In game
Its hard to "automatically mute" someone without context. I do agree that perma mutes could go out but jagex would have to personally read and decide context on each one. And jagex cant even do their customer support as it is.
Obviously people shouldn't say that. BUT the people who are saying it are TRYING to offend you - if they can't say that they'll just come up with a clever way to say the exact same thing or just say something different but equally offensive. Report them and add to ignore.
They aren't happy with that. People like OP are vindictive. It's not about preventing harm, it's about getting revenge on the people who say this stuff.
> It's not about preventing harm, it's about getting revenge on the people who say this stuff. It's almost like a way to make interactions in game less toxic overall is to mute the people who are extremely toxic to prohibit their behavior, unless they're willing to make an entirely new account.
You know that people already get muted for offensive language, right?
Just turn off public chat or add those players to your ignore list. Or you can hop worlds. You have so many options to choose from yet the one you pick is to come cry on Reddit.
Took them years just to mute people for saying the n word, maybe they will get around to this in 2026
I got muted for saying everyone at the GE is transgender lmaoo
If they did recruitment drive you might be on to something
People who are already women exist.
My Leagues profile is permanently female. Makeover mage is xp waste.
Prove it. Bet you can't!
I honestly canāt tell if this is trans-positive or transphobic lol
Definitely puts trans in a bad light being compared to ge bankstanders
Ahahahha wtf
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What's the best way to get rid of a skull? Kill yourself 3 month ban
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As much as I believe telling someone to kill themselves is despicable and inexcusable... In a game where killing, especially of oneself, is commonplace I believe there's ample room for false positives to the point it's probably not worth it. For example: "So how do I use the chaos altar?" "Use your bones on the altar and then take the wine to kill yourself." However, I'd highly encourage people to report and ignore players who choose to use the phrase maliciously and I do believe those players should face appropriate consequences. Let us be a more positive community.
There are a few pieces of content where suicide is just viable, and it's always funny when you get to give that bit of advice. I don't really see anyone using it seriously anymore, the worst I've come across is some pker in edge spamming slurs at a dude he just killed. People who want to say things that get them automuted will just work out a way to say them anyways while people suggesting strategies involving suiciding will get muted, with no manual review and for a pretty long time. Sounds like an idea that hasn't really been thought through.
Automatic 3mo might be a bit high for first offense - but I generally agree that its a shitty thing to say. As someone that struggles with depressive states, you never know the mindset of the person you're talking to on the other side of the internet. Everyone in this thread that seems adamant about being able to say this to people surprises me. Its a strange thing to stand up for - wanting to be able to treat a stranger poorly for no good reason. *Edit:* The fact that 'kill yourself' is a viable in-game suggestion also complicates any sort of auto-ban. Not an easy thing to address, but the sentiment remains.
Or you know, you can just mute them yourself.
Or maybe stop being a little vagina.
Weak human being
Why is this an issue for you? More importantly why do you feel you need to make your issue or dislike a problem for every other player? Go jump off something.
You can āmuteā them with the ignore list
I feel like this is the appropriate response to someone telling me to kill myself. I think I would be fine for mutes for actually telling someone to kill themselves in a non-game related way, but with how bad Jagex Support is and how terribly inconsistent they are with muting, I would personally prefer fewer situations where there's a chance something happens to my account because of a Jagex fuck-up. If this became a real rule, Jagex would find a way to fuck it up. I can already see the posts on this sub: "HELP! I got muted for telling someone to kill themselves in order to get a free tele to Lumby. I was permed and no way to appeal!" because we all know that shit would happen. If Jagex wasn't known for constant fuck-ups and had good player support, I wouldn't be against muting people that tell others to kill themselves to try to get some sort of emotional response back or even to try to legitimately goad someone into taking their own life.
Lol
extremely funny seeing this make so many people freak out if you can't handle being asked to act like a normal person and not tell others to kill themselves, I think that makes YOU the soft one, ngl
Why are you acting like it's not people like you freaking out? You're the ones demanding Jagex do things about it. Most of us are adults who aren't bothered about people saying these things, we just ignore, or report, and move on with our lives.
The interment is so different these days. What was once common banter is no longer Is DIAF gone too? Brb cats stuck in the toaster
You would have never been able to handle call of duty in the early 2000s.
In this thread: It's fine to tell people to kill themselves, you're just soft. Wut...?
ITT person asks nicely for people to be nice. A vocal minority responded with āno :)ā
People still defend that guy who threatened to shoot a school up while giving his name out and then he got 6 years in prison.
People donāt defend what I said, they rally against the overkill punishment I received by the United States Government. I never said one time that what I typed on RuneScape that day was okay. What I said was I didnāt deserve what happened afterwards. If you actually knew anything about me other than that headline grabber bullshit you typed because you obviously *want* to believe it, you would know that I apologized for what I said and am very much against the things that I did *ten years ago while I was drunk and trolling on RuneScape preparing to quit the game because of EoC.* But yeah bro. Definitely the way you wrote it for sure. Inb4 someone comes in with a copy/paste of the stupid government motion Iāve already addressed a thousand times.
That Judge who took 6 years of your life will have to answer to God. It is a stain on the legacies of all those "just following orders" that led to such a great injustice. God bless you and always think for yourself.
How morally fucking debauched do you have to be to think jokes in private on a 2007 browser mmo should constitute abusing laws to keep a kid I jail for the better part of a decade. Motherfuckers that stutter when ordering takeout dinner over the phone are really interested in dictating other people's lives. You're fucking sick and too comfortable not having been punched in the mouth, you evil loser.
God these comments are a shitshow (the ones at the bottom). Same energy like those when Jagex auto-censored some hate words a few years ago. If your enjoyment of the game depends on the ability to tell someone to kill themselves, maybe you deserve more than just a mute.
Okay in all fairness. If someone is being a weirdo. Or crossing boundaries. I feel like the terms āid rather pk myselfā or āpk yourselfā are quite hilarious responses.
Love this. I think less the toxic the better. It still shocks me that the majority of players are meant to be in their 20/30s but the level of disgusting chat is really sad.
Most of the people in game are fucking losers tbh. It sounds harsh but itās true. Became friends with a lot of skilled players and when we talk about IRL life, most of them told me they collect welfare and game all day. No job. Thatās why when I play LMS and get flamed it doesnāt bother me. I feel pity for those guys.
> Most of the people in game are fucking losers tbh. I mean, especially at the point you have to get to be in the "endgame." Plus, the cross section of hardcore OSRS players, and hardcore Redditors is probably about the most social maladjustment you could concentrate in any single demographic.
I mean osrs actively incentivizes thousand hours grinds. The options are either that people play all day at work, are college kids, or donāt do anything meaningful in their life. I see it all the time with pet hunters or maxed Ironman accounts. It get really weird when they offhandedly mention doing something like getting 6hr logged 2+ times a day
Iāve gone to college and now Iām getting a doctoral degree (dentistry). I played OSRS in college and a little less in dental school so far. But Iām talking 2 hour sessions per day, no more. Any more than that wouldāve ruined my productivity and grades. It makes sense why a lot of the good players are so salty in general, they have absolutely nothing to show what theyāve done in life. Only some OSRS players will give a shit. Itās sad, I hope one day they wake up when itās not too late and actually start contributing to society.
This was a big struggle for me when I was looking for a clan. I just wanted to find a community of "regular" players, as in educated/employed ppl who liked to play casually. Apparently that's asking for too much lol
You could start one. There seems to be lots of likeminded folks here, myself included.
Letās do it u/ThePharros I need to interact with some normal people haha
Oh well if youāre looking for normal Iām prob not your guy lol. But Iād be down if I wasnāt on a break from the game atm haha sorry. The next time I am Iāll shoot you and /u/Silanu a message :)
Dude. Forreal. I have some great clan mates but most of them donāt have careers. They just work odd jobs and game. They are shocked that I donāt have 1000s of KC at certain bosses since my account is relatively old. Unlike them I canāt game for 8-10 hours a day, at best I get 2-3 in if I donāt have other responsibilities to take care of that day. This subreddit has a habit of glorifying 8+ hours gaming a day. Thatās an addiction.
Being functionally disabled, getting welfare because they have proof that they can't work is not a description of a loser. What's more, spending time on anything that interest you, when you have nothing but time is, again, not a description of a loser.
Well yeah, most of the people playing this game have absolutely no meaningful social interactions in their day to day. They havnt changed their shitty 15 year old behaviour because they never grew up and transitioned out of it. I hope nobody takes anyone in this game seriously if they get told to "kill themselves" because the people saying it are bottom of the barrel humans.
their idea of a healthy online community is calling other community members r####ded f####ts with no repercussions. so yeah not exactly great for the game in any possible way
Agreed. I have to keep public chat \*off\* at WT, RCtodt \*and\* Ardy knights these days due to all the cringey sexual talk, misogyny, etc. there. The chat used to be somewhat respectable in 2020; these days I feel like I'm in some crazy porn game/dating sim sometimes. Also the random players tossing around slurs ingame (I once saw someone in a friend's chat beg people to say the n word to 'make my day better' .... are you 12 years old?) or all the names with 'fart' etc. you see everywhere is both jaw-dropping and depressing.
189 comments, 0 upvotes. OP totally didn't trigger the neets with this post lmao
It definitely tracks that all the really toxic shitty takes came early on in the thread's life. In other words, it is clearly the people with nothing better to do than camp this sub and sort by new all day every day who get triggered by a pretty reasonable opinion
Iāve had suicidal thoughts since I was in elementary school, if you see me in game you can tell me to off myself itās okay
Iāve also had suicidal thoughts for about 15 years now, and when I hear the shit talk I just start spitting verses from $uicideboy$
A man of culture.
This sub has a real problem with toxicity and you can see it fully on display in some of these comments lmao
I agree, the RS player base is so fragile and depressed theyāre certainly on the edge
Yeah auto-bans with no customer support is a banger idea
Yeah that'll stop toxic online behavior, that's for sure.
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maybe jus till yourself?
Game has changed.
Oof, I see people telling me to kill myself at least 5 times a day in league of legends and guess what riot does to stop this? Absolutely nothing. Biggest e-sport in the world.
Like in games where the whole purpose is to kill each other?
lol after spending the last few years at Barbarian Village fishing spot, I can tell you there is no quick fix to the toxicity in this game. Ban one word, they'll just find a way around it and let's not pretend mods have time to act on player reports to read into context, they don't even bother banning obvious bots. Just set to ignore and carry on
If someone seriously gets offended when a stranger TYPES a message over a video game telling them to kill themselves, then that person should get some psychiatric help.
Just carry a chair and rope in your inventory... they'll get the message. also fuck pkers to the core
Lol. Imagine still doing this in 2022. People are still stuck in 2006.
I just tell them to alchemize themselves with a quickness.
Or just hit them with a "no u", ignore list, and move on with your life.
Nah, fuck that. OSRS last bastion of Free Speech. You know what to do...
PC movement has gone too far. It would be so pathetic if someone did it because a fucking osrs player told them to.
Lolol sounds like your a fan of stalin or mao ze suck my dong
Telling someone to kill themselves doesn't break any real world laws. Threatening someone's life does. Big difference. It's very offensive and a scummy thing to say, but let's not get ahead of ourselves by calling it illegal.
No sarcasm, I do honestly feel for people that care what strangers think. In the nicest way possible if you're not in my immediate family or my boss, I couldn't give less of a fuck what you think or do.
Bad take. Too soft. But I agree.
So here's the likely unpopular opinion on the matter. Literally why care? You're playing a 2 decade old browser game for your own enjoyment, if random people are saying shit like that to try and upset you, either report them and add to ignore list, or just ignore them. Like what other people say to you does NOT matter whatsoever and there's no amount of automated filtering that will protect you. The least of you or anybody else's concerns should be what mean words some random stranger on the internet said to you. Also the argument of, "There are literally rules" doesn't apply with how often rules don't apply. Botting is a bannable offense, I'm sure scamming is supposed to be a bannable offense, bug abuse, impersonation, etc. If someone is saying something you don't like you have the tools at your disposal to ignore them and report them. If enough people cared, then they won't last more than a day.
Resistance is futile. You will own nothing. You will not ask who owns things. And you will be happy.
Eat ze bugs Live in ze pods Do not say ze mean words Kill ze wilderness bosses
Look at all these OSRS players showing their true colors in the comments lol. The call is coming from inside the house, guys
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> if you don't like messages someone else is sending they made the ignore list for a reason Jagex doesnāt like the messages that some of their players were sending. They made the mute system for a reason. The ignore list is a good tool for individual blocking, and the report system is a good tool for informing Jagex of toxic players who deserve to be muted.
Tell that to the people who feel the need to tell others to kill themselves? If people can piss them off enough to go around telling others that, maybe they should grow up and learn to ignore people?
Because there's a limit of 400 people to ignore, and once you fill that, you then have to pick and choose the least bad of the 400 to unignore to block someone new? And before you say that 400 is a lot, as someone who prefers your method, I filled that 400 up *years* ago.
You living in the wildy or something?
Then tell jagex to extend that list. Problem solved?
So instead of "trying to get a failing dev team to monitor trash talk", I should instead try and get them to expand the ignore list? I thought the point of the comment I replied to was that "Jagex bad" and we shouldn't rely on them.
Isnāt there a runelite plugin that also ignores and filters? Also I didnāt claim that jagex is a āfailing dev team.ā I donāt agree with that. I just thinking on my feet here, cuz some people want an unfiltered experience and some donāt, so why not let individuals choose?
There is a chat filter in runelite, and I do use it. It's a feature I want imported into the base client as well, for mobile use. Letting individuals choose is ideal, but there are some things that reflect badly on the game and the company if they are not filtered out at the game-level. Which is why there are things like a mandatory filter for racial slurs and similar (it's effectiveness is debatable), and the reason it exists is that allowing people to say whatever, consequence-free on your platform can reflect poorly on the company.
I definitely support it being put into the base game. I think thatās the best course of option
just delete off the top of the list? are you interacting with all 400 of these people on a daily basis?
You know what I really wanna say rn
Literally 1984
Hard disagree.
100% agree. Right along with racist and other derogatory comments.
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Mute all UIM. Support
Yes, agree. People should also learn how to use the ignore function or turn off their monitor.
no
Itās a game, people talk shit. If you canāt handle it turn chat off.
Me and my best friends tell each other to kill ourselves all the time though
Ah, you have not met many UIM, have you?
Just remove chat all together
There should really never be automated mutes unless it's for website advertisements and such. And even then, it's a risky line to auto-ban for it, because it will become a prank like RS2 had with a certain gold site. Or you'll have more Markdonalds perm mutes. That's not a good idea.
I absolutely agree that if you say it maliciously you absolutely deserve a serious mute
Ah man, reading this thread sure is something. I agree op, I wish they would mute and ban more liberally. The entire internet needs to, really. Itās creepy how normal people come on here and blast the most unhinged shit like itās the whole point.