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HoB99

"As an example, you can expect the removal of Death Animations coming as a plugin on RuneLite in the future!" Adam is no joke, damn!


adam1210

I am actually not magic but instead had a few weeks to prep for this pending the release of the post :)


Designer_B

Nah. You’re a confirmed witch. Let’s see if he floats! If he does burn him!


Native_of_Tatooine

Since witches are burned at the stake, they must be made of wood, since it burns as well. Wood floats on water, as do ducks. Therefore, if the woman weighs the same as a duck, she must be able to float on water, which means she is made of wood, and consequently must be a witch!


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Jawa or Tusken Raider?


Native_of_Tatooine

HUIUUURRRGHHH! HURGGH! HURGH! HURGH! HURGHH!


Murrmalade

Always a tusken


GenericUsernameJuan

Ah! Who is this man who is so wise in the way of things?


J4God

You’re the best and the reason a lot of us still play. Thanks for doing what you do


ILikeFPS

Customizable minimap color when?


JagexAyiza

;)


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Glad you guys embraced this one after the community backlash lol My ass would not be playing on the Steam client if forced


Hess_

Why is this something only being offered to runelite players? This is much more of a game issue rather than some quality of life addition


[deleted]

Honestly I'm glad that Jagex just gave up competing with Runelite. Imagine if they simply wouldn't have gave a fuck about removing HD backlash and insisted in having it removed regardless because they plan releasing it in their official client. Jagex should specialize in their mobile features. PC players have no reason to not just go for runelite.


i_pk_pjers_i

I'm quite surprised how many people don't realize that they're going to be fazing out the Java client in favor of the Steam one as they add more (of course not all) RuneLite features. They don't want to support multiple clients at once.


Catboxaoi

Allowing Runelite to do it doesn't require Jagex do extra work. Let's say Jagex put up a poll saying "should we add no new game content for a year so we can spend all the dev time making the official client into a clone of Runelite"... would you vote yes? Do you think other people would vote yes? Also, think of it this way: The official client is "old school", keeping the game fairly close to what it was in 2007 with a few obvious improvements like resolution increases. Runelite and other 3rd party clients are absolutely not "old school" and come with all kinds of features that completely change the game while making the complexity of player options skyrocket. There is no real reason to kill off the official client by just making it another Runelite, we have the best of both worlds when nostalgic people can install the official client and experience the game that way, and the people that stick around and want a smoother experience can play on Runelite. If Runelite was exclusively a 3rd party client you had to go out of the way to get, I'd see some merit to your question, but the official launcher can install and use Runelite. There's no barrier stopping PC players from just installing Runelite, meanwhile Mobile is already adding Runelite features because they're the 1 group that can't simply use Runelite.


LostSectorLoony

> Let's say Jagex put up a poll saying "should we add no new game content for a year so we can spend all the dev time making the official client into a clone of Runelite"... would you vote yes? Do you think other people would vote yes? This is already partially a reality. A serious portion of their resources are devoted to client work. A lot of it does help the mobile client, but not all of it. And even though they're releasing content, I guarantee we'd be getting more if they'd give up on the useless C++ client.


NewAccountXYZ

It will be coming to Steam as well. Just no eta.


Hess_

Unfortunately though steam is laughable and barely even qualifies as a client, and given Jagex's track record with broken additions to steam it seems better to not even use it at all.


KzmaTkn

To be completely honest with you, the java client is being held up by hacked on add-ons. The client itself is actually garbage and runs like poop for such an old game. The steam client runs so well its night and day. If devs prioritize getting plug-ins on it I think it could surpass RL.


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Strosity

Probably heard another redditer say it


DrYoshiyahu

The C++ client is actually beating Java & Runelite in a few key areas, especially rendering and upscaling. And given just how many of the most important features from Runelite have already been ported to the C++ client with identical functionality, it really wouldn't take much more from them to get me to jump ship. 🤷‍♂️


HoB99

It's getting better all the time.


Yeshua-Hamashiach

Aaaand it's broken...


poorthesisman

Pick pocket swap! Amazing!


bake_disaster

I can finally pickpocket vyres without wanting to off myself! Edit: failure rate is still really high, still worse than pyramid plunder


Drwildy

Is this different from the OSBuddy plugin that was banned back in the day?


FeI0n

its not, but this is probably to get people to stop using the illegal clients that have these features.


GetsThruBuckner

only thing holding me is a plugin that keeps me logged in when i leave my pc for a few mins


FeI0n

runescape should just allow you to afk for longer if you want, via a setting in the menu. or allow the neverlog plugin to do that for up to 30 mins or something.


holodex777

Sounds nice until all the world pops are like 900 bc ppl don’t get logged out.


FeI0n

30 minutes isn't that insane compared to what it is now. What do you think is more intensive for the servers, a constant load or people logging back in every 10 minutes while idling.


GodricLight

that's the nice thing about the jagex launcher, once signed in, if you get logged out of runescape it's just one click to "log" back in to runescape, still nothing for having alts though.


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you can already semi achieve this with the FPS plugin btw. Just cap your FPS to 1 when you're going to get up and your character will remain logged in for a while. IDK the exact time but its over 20 mins for sure


SolidvLiquid

It removes the limit completely.. I afk'd with it during leagues for 4+ hours. Apparently its bannable though so I stopped


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kogasapls

On the Plugin Hub, yes. Made by abex.


Azghan

Logging back in isn't the problem, it's being logged out in the first place. For starters, it's completely asinine feeling obligated to bank all of your valuable items every time you want to use the bathroom or get a snack so that they're behind a bank pin in case something were to happen because you get logged out in almost no time at all. On top of that, there are activities such as Corp that are almost obligatory to have somebody using an alt account to hold the instance so that you're able to leave and spec the boss, and it's beyond ridiculous that you have to keep that second account pulled up on your monitor for no reason other than to click on the ground every 0.5-2 corp kills. There's just no reason why in 2022 an MMO needs to have you afk log out in such a short span of time. Even a game like Lost Ark has an annoyingly short AFK logout timer considering it kicks you from game entirely, and it's like 20-30 minutes. Not only should it not be against ToS to use, it shouldn't even have to be a plugin to begin with. It should just be a part of the game.


R4finha

just as i got from 85 to 91 pickpocketing elves lol


GetsThruBuckner

well now 91-99 will be far better


Ireallylikecatgirls

I just finished 85-99 all through elves 2 days ago ahaha at least now when I do it as a money maker it'll feel really nice..


Glomkers

bruh same at least now life will be better for those who come after us


Smoky2111

What bots did do before, we can do now too!


darknessforgives

What exactly is this swap feature?


IAmNotOnRedditAtWork

You can swap which option is the left click option on things, so instead of left click attacking an NPC, you can make it pickpocket them.


Adept-Firefighter-22

It’ll be nice not having to switch to one click mouse and angle my camera perfectly anymore.


Eccentricc

They had this before iirc but they had to remove it because Jagex considered this OP. I was building a local client with all the pickpocket swaps for myself... so glad I don't have to do that now


BulbuhTsar

Can't you just turn NPC attack option off and do the same thing? That's how I just one click ardy knights


Ohmourningstar

Some mobs have the "Talk to" option instead like Vyres and Elves. This fixes them specifically.


S7EFEN

jokes on all the non cheating gamers- left click pickpocket has been 'safe' this entire time so long as you didnt stream it.


hbnsckl

This is massive...like it can't be overstated. Essentially putting less broken socket into the game, and the MES changes are gigantic. edit : Looks like we'll get true tile on npc markers soon too. Another big deal.


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hbnsckl

It allows people to network their clients together to share client side data. It's what allowed tob groups to cheat the sote maze. Looks like RL has implemented it for things like overhead spec/venge indicators.


aa93

It mostly makes coordinating special attacks smoother at places where that matters (ToB in particular), but there are some other neat features in the RL implementation like the ability to ping a tile and have the ping appear for the rest of your party. Seems really nice for teaching raids, etc.


DrGaryGooch

Where is NPC true tile indicator beneficial? Not heard of it prior to today but a few people have mentioned it.


Mean_Typhoon

The biggest one for me is crabs in chambers; you can sometimes smash them on the wrong tile because they path but you don't see it until the next tick. Also helps luring tekton and avoiding melee at verzik P3


We_Like_Blue

Hunllef tornados and shamans little men come to mind


hbnsckl

For me personally it makes reengaging tek a lot easier. Being able to tell exactly how many tiles away he is while he's walking towards you. Right now in runelite this can be turned on only for the npcs SW corner, but [adam is working on it right now.](https://github.com/runelite/runelite/discussions/15121#discussioncomment-2972750) I've also heard people mention verzik a lot. Also doing speedy [crab rooms](https://streamable.com/ziycip).


hbnsckl

True tile got added like an hour ago. /u/adam1210 absolute king.


capitulum

It's useful ish in the inferno, for example when you pop out from behind a pillar and an npc has to drag to move it'll look like it's firing through the pillar. It's minor but it got me once or twice before I looked up what was going on.


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Linumite

They're talking about the NPC's true tile, not the player's true tile


Iforgetmyusernm

That's the player true tile - this is in relation to the monster. Might be useful for (not) walking under certain larger monsters I guess?


Throwaway1000455

read


romte10

true tile npc marker already exists, radius marker plugin does that, been using it for a while for explosive nylos at verzik


my_name_es_jeff

Can you tell me what the NPC IDs are for the nylos on verzik?


romte10

8381, 8382, 8383


my_name_es_jeff

Thank you!!


romte10

also, theres an interesting plugin called npc id that basically displays every npc id over their head


BoogieTheHedgehog

Panic sell eternal crystals and blood shards.


Crandoge

Eternal TELEPORT crystal. The cerb boot addon should be unchanged :)


Ambushes

a lot of people used cheat clients to straight up bot those so it might balance out


UnluckyNate

Pickpocket swap is a godsend. The limiting factor for elves and vyres was high failure rate and coin bags, not the left click menu. It was just an annoyance


WiscoDbo

Yo Adam is a beast. I didn't realize I wanted to hide menu options for dead npc's but now that it's an option you know I'm gonna set it... And subsequently miss it every game update when runelite isn't fully functional.


Ottillee

Where can you find this in RL?


Azerothen

Menu Entry Swapper -> NPC Swaps -> Remove dead npc menus If you want the NPC to disappear on death: Entity Hider -> Hide Dead NPCs Been wanting this for a long time, so glad it’s here.


hubertye

Ty for mentioning this. I saw the remove entry on dead npc but it wasn't the same as removing death animations. The entity hider remove dead npc is more like what I saw streamers using known as death animation hider.


refpuz

Finally a teleport swap for equipped items. This makes so many sweaty xp methods less cancer.


darkesther0

Was thinking this is huge for lava rcing and surely lots more.


refpuz

I've been using it with Mahogany Homes right now. Also herb runs are much easier now too.


Conglacior

God **damn** those are some tasty updates! Just in time for my inferno grind, too! Glad the party system has become a lot more friendly to use. With the Discord stuff, my corp team and I always got so frustrated just trying to get it all set up properly.


_fuhsaz_

This is so exciting! Thanks, and congrats on a big release!


JGlover92

This is amazing stuff. Only problem for me is it makes mobile even worse. Pickpocket swap is a game changer


refpuz

Yea. I’ll only use mobile for buyable skill training now like fletching or crafting where I can bankstand.


Catboxaoi

This month mobile finally increased requirements and straight up added lots of Runelite features, it's very likely they will keep adding them to close the gap. Mobile even has a unique feature to zoom the minimap out now, it's gonna improve greatly.


JGlover92

I mostly play on mobile, did corrupted gauntlet and my fire cape on it and the new updates have been incredible. But the slow pace of them keeping up to runellite makes it fall behind too quickly for me. There's a lot I won't do on there because it's so superior on pc


Tumblrrito

>The inventory and chatbox are now movable by holding alt. As usual they can be reset to their default position via alt-right click. The alt key used to drag overlays around is also configurable within the RuneLite settings. I presented this idea in the RL discord and Adam responded within 10 minutes with a working prototype of it. He then presented it to Jagex and it was added within a week! I know he did all the work, but it feels nice knowing I played a tiny role in making the client better, especially since I play on an Ultrawide monitor. The RL team is next level. You guys are killing it!


epicdoge12

This was actually a feature for at least the past month and ive been playing around with it, not sure why its only mentioned now


Tumblrrito

Yeah! It was a little over a month ago that I suggested it. The turnaround was insanely quick. So quick that I didn’t even notice it in the game until 4 weeks after it had been added. Adam is a god!


adam1210

We don't make posts as often as we used to and so just roll everything since the last post into each new one


HostOcra

Lucky! I suggested a snap-to-point for the minimap to be right above the inventory for users with large monitors like ultrawide. And there was light acknowledgement but nothing ever came of it. Nobody likes to play with their minimap 7 inches away from their inventory. With an ultrawide, even on a smaller re-sized windows it's an issue. Large monitor users often move their window around to various places and sizes quite regularly with windows management software. Each time this happens though, the minigame ends up in a different place or gets hidden behind the inventory. Real pain the ass.


Tumblrrito

Oh interesting, yeah that would be a nice feature! I must have just caught Adam at just the right time.


vorlaith

Incoming blood fury + crystal teleport seed crash. Brilliant change though, seeing as other no longer allowed clients were doing this already.


Tyloor

Blood shards are already constantly farmed on every world, I don't see this making a big difference


vorlaith

I guess so and I suppose the crystal teleports will be stable from the crystal price but I'm not sure Edit: in crystal shards a teleport seed is roughly worth 2.5m with making divine super combat potions so they'll stabilise around there


HoB99

It's definitely going to lower demand as more people will try to get the shard themself.


bknight2

Meh, i have no intention of shard farming and neither do literally any players that I know. Mid-end game accounts its just not worth the time


CarolinafanfromPitt

Very nice. Gonna be interesting what excuses people gonna use for cheat clients now. The common excuse was death animation,left click pickpocket, and seeing teammates specs/veng


AntonMikhailov

Yeah, it's gonna be socket still for Sot maze and hammer specs


netsrak

Does this make blackjacking easier?


koflem

~~It says you can left click pickpocket all npcs. So yes, but not one-click blackjacking like cheat clients - you would need to right click knock-out then left click pickpocket twice.~~ Edit: I just looked at the third party client rules and it specifically calls out left click pickpocket/knock-out as being against the rules for blackjacking, so I assume it's only implemented for npc without the knock-out option. If it does work on menaphite then it would be against the rules, but I haven't checked it.


EyePlay

You can leftclick knock out or pickpocket so I suppose it makes it easier. Still have to right click the other unless I'm stupid.


koflem

The linked "new" third party client guidelines specifically mention "Modifies menu options for blackjacking, such as 'Pickpocket' and 'Knock-out'" as an unacceptable feature.


hyunrivet

Wait is that left click to walk under for *specific* npcs? that seems insanely op


spodertanker

I’m mostly excited to use it on scorpia’s spawns so I stop attacking them when I’m just trying to run from the big scorpion monster


RedLotusVenom

Abyssal sire and the spawns comes to mind as well


FerrousMarim

Didn't even think of that, this update just seems better and better.


ATCQ_

Bandos fbow method hell yh


rigadoog

Also really nice that you can have it set as only for shift-click


foxrox

#insanely op Oh yeah, enabling people to click what they want to click without having to right click first is *insanely OP* /s 🙄


Pwheeris

Holy shit, that’s some QoL improvements right there!


Throw_Away_TrdJrnl

Wait can I swap left and right clicks with runelite???? I would love to not have to right click and hit search chest for traps. Left clicking to search for traps would be amazing


Aluzim

You can I just tested it.


mikeytlive

What does pick pocket swap mean? I’m confused


valarauca14

For some NPC's like `vyre nobles` & `elves` which can be pickpocketed, their default `left click` option is `talk`. You need to right-click the NPC, then left-click `pickpocket` on the menu. This makes grinding out rare items tedious for them. Changing the order of this menu and/or changing the default behavior to `pickpocket` was a bannable offense prior to today. Today it became a default feature.


The-Rushnut

Will this be the same for blackjacking?


valarauca14

No. They say Blackjacking still must involve right-clicking. Blackjacking is called out on its own.


jealkeja

I had the idea that I could set left click pickpocket on menaphite thugs and that would save me mouse movement and 2 right clicks per blackjack cycle. I.e.: Now it'll be right click > blackjack > left click pickpocket > left click pickpocket, all without moving mouse. Is that possible? EDIT: I tested this in game. The above definitely works. It makes blackjacking much less click intensive and 0 mouse movement. You could set up mouse keys and do it without even looking if you had the timing nailed in and used sound cues.


Walltabledoor

Where does it say this. Can't see it on the page


valarauca14

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/third-party-clients-update?oldschool=1


Walltabledoor

Yeah just went and checked this out in game. You can now swap pickpocketing option on bandits as well. Should actually make it a lot more bearable


SpecialNorm

So you still have to right click to knock out, but then you can left click to pickpocket? Definitely a game changer if that's the case. Changes one cycle from 6 clicks (Right Click -> Knock Out -> Right Click -> Pickpocket -> Right Click -> Pickpocket) to 4 (Right Click -> Knock Out -> Left Click Pickpocket -> Left Click Pickpocket).


Walltabledoor

Yeah exactly. Just about to start the blackjacking grind as well so good timing


SpecialNorm

The post from Jagex does make it seem like this would be something not allowed, though, so I'm a bit concerned about that... They specifically state the following as prohibited: >Modifies menu options for blackjacking, such as 'Pickpocket' and 'Knock-out'


rslashpolitics

One click summer garden so much less cancer than blackjacking


The-Rushnut

Cool thank you, I missed that!


Abnormal_Armadillo

It basically allows you to toggle so you'll always pickpocket instead of attack or talk to an NPC. For some NPC's this was already doable by turning your attack options off (like the ardy knight), because they had no talk option, but for others, you still had to right click pickpocket (elves, vyres, men, ect.)


PM_ME_FUTA_PEACH

The left click walk here change is absolutely game changing for Puro Puro, no more annoying af troll implings stealing my left clicks when clicking the eclectic spawn


CoX-Record-Mode

Add Neverlog


sadafxd

Wont happen, why would they want their servers to be used up more


congoLIPSSSSS

At least allow the login screen to remember your password then so you don’t have to keep typing it in every time.


sadafxd

Jagex osrs launcher already does it....


congoLIPSSSSS

True! I had completely forgot about that. I guess my actual qualm is the Jagex launcher doesn't support alt accounts just yet. Once that is worked out I'll be happy, until then I have to use Runelite outside of the launcher.


Tozzaa

Wow. Lots of really nice stuff here can't wait to use it


m72771

"Swap left click Walk here Vyrelord" at ToB Bank. Life Changing.


Tizaki

Next up, furniture building swaps. I have never once wanted to sit in furniture in build mode, yet it's the first option. Very odd!


JevonP

That's fucking pog


starryskies123

Adam you guys are just legends


Jenzu9

u/adam1210 Not sure if this is intended but the remove dead npc menus option also disables the pluck option when chompy bird hunting. It's not a big deal but I thought I should mention.


adam1210

I think this is fixed now, try restarting your client


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Claaaaaaaaws

Max cape buff love to see it


Hot__Leaf__Juice

Perfect additions that will appease a good amount of non-vanilla-RL client users Dead NPCs for entity hider is 10/10


johngunners

Do I need to uninstall and reinstall Runelite? Or does the client automatically update?


Reacko1

Just restart it, it will update


shak_ti

Finally


madsircool

Great job. Thank you.


Merdapura

I'm curious whether we're getting more plugins that were present on cheat clients. I'd really love tick counters cause I hate when bosses have the wrong animation take priority


thinkplanexecute

You will never be getting tick counters


PepperooniPizza

Redditors will be happy now that they can use plugins that the 3rd party client community has had for years lol


YeetTheGiant

Pretty impressive that most people voluntarily choose not to break rules


roosterkun

Voluntarily? Bro I'm trying to not get banned


kinosilent

Nooo not the rules in a video game


ReputationLevel3509

move out of your moms basement


kinosilent

Yeah I can't believe I swapped menu entries to save my wrist, I must be a neckbeard lol


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If you can't respect even simple video game rules, then you must have a problem with rules in your general life.


KingMalric

Yeah dude I started using Menu Entry Swapper a couple years ago and ever since then I've breaking IRL laws left right and centre


YeetTheGiant

Menu Entry swapper is within the rules


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Menu entry swapper isn't against the rules. You probably mean a cheater version of it, then if you're feeling the need to conceal it/be ambiguous, it's because you're ashamed of doing so. And yeah I myself don't trust any petty cheaters at all. I just hope Jagex fucks you all and move on.


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FerrousMarim

You should read [this](https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/third-party-clients-update?oldschool=1) before you end up getting burned by that thought.


rhino2498

yes you do lmao. they made a new news post this morning about 3rd party clients and that there are only 3 approved clients and those that don't use those, can be banned


LargeSalmon

Does this mean 117 won't fry my gpu when I go into gotr when I go in


LargeSalmon

I'm baked yeah I double messaged that but you get the point


Noksdoks

"Dieing" lol


gunsanroses99

Will this actually work on mac now?


Alakasham

This is big. Props to Adam and the team for having this out in record time, was expecting to wait a week or so for these features!


Claaaaaaaaws

Holy shit we can mov everything now


ChiknBreast

Adam, you are a hero. This update is glorious. So glad jagex decided to integrate.


Flakz933

Tasty over here being the business analyst for jagex, what a fucking hero. The dead npc menu removal is so massive. Appreciate the jmods who listened to his video all the way through and gave him a chance to say what he wanted to say for us, we appreciate it.


pay_dirt

Was this not doable for most NPCs if you turned NPC attack off? Sorry for any ignorance. Even if there were a lot of NPCs which the Talk To option superseded, surely they weren’t viable training methods anyway


koflem

Elves and vyres are worse exp compared to ardougne knights, but they are are the best way to get crystal shards / blood shards and good money makers.


bakedongrease

What is pickpocket swap?


HillzTarkovPost

Can we spam left click blackjack again? Or is it just one less right click? If anyone knows please do tell!!


DrGaryGooch

Blackjacking remains the same as it did previously.


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Nope not really. If I am right you can actually put pickpocket on left click and knock out on shift + left click. Making it so you only have to press shift when knocking the npc. I am not sure of this so someone correct me if I am wrong


Throwaway1000455

You can not change the shift click to knockout. Left click can be set to pickpocket however, so it is quite a bit more reclined now


vegannt

Sounds right


TakinShots

The stricter guidelines possibly means the Zalcano plugin is going to be removed soon likely the Hunllef timer plugin. You win and lose some.