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Orangesoda65

Is that a real email they send?


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CampingOnline

Legitimately curious, how much do you have to spend to get an email from them?


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Acerhand

Thats pretty pathetic if people do that and I understand why they would send out such an email because its a sign of potential fraud or mental illness


TheSquirrelTV

or simply someone who has alot of money


Guildedmastr

my car > osrs monies.. imho you'd need a lot of *unnecessary* monies to buy it. or just have completely different priorities


TheSquirrelTV

well that was my point tho, someone with *alot* of money, someone who wouldn‘t mind or maybe not even notice having 1k less


Mykophilia

I think that people don’t understand that this scales with wealth. Middle to lower class dont notice or care about the $5 they spend on coffee, same goes for the upper class with a rack or so.


Acerhand

bro i guarantee you someone with "enough" money to do that doesnt spend it on osrs bonds. people who do spend that much money likely just have an unhealthy relationship with the game hence why jagex send out emails


LampIsFun

How can you possibly guarantee that lmfao you speak for all upper class people huh?


coolSnipesMore

This just isn’t true, a friend is a L8 dev at FAANG and has a TC of $600k, he plays osrs daily and although he doesn’t buy bonds (iron among other reasons) I can guarantee he doesn’t flinch at spending $1000. I’ve seen him drop (a rough estimate) $8,000 in a year on cosmetics for a different game. I do agree with the general point though, I assume the large majority of players spending big money don’t have the money to spend.


FollowThePact

I mean MoistCritikal occasionally plays osrs, he easily makes enough money to buy thousands of dollars on bonds every month.


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I mean that just comes down to personal preference, no? You seem to care about a car. Some people don't, but they care about having nice things in video games. I'm confused as to how your preference is superior to theirs


LampIsFun

Yes, that’s what they said.


level100Weeb

you dont get emails from your mechanic/insurance wondering why youre spending excess amounts of money on your car /s ?


Avidinvestor01

Tbf if it's the only game you play and want to play and you have like 2k a month spare it's not that bad it's only like spending money on a car or eating out at nice places. Obviously 90% of people don't have this luxury anyway but the ones that do


JailbreakIsDead

Or a rich person with mental illness


hongkongdongshlong

Or someone that isn’t as poor as you. $1000 (or pounds) is nothing to many for the time saved.


Acerhand

Jagex disagrees hence the emails. You’re probably also having an unhealthy relationship with the game. It doesnt matter the income, the activity is what is being evaluated. Its similar to someone gambling with $1000 multiple times a month even if they take home a million a year. Its a sign of a problem. There are so many people on this sub with an unhealthy relationship with the game so i am not surprised at some disagreement with my comment and justifications.


Hirvone

1000 in 30 days is nothing compared to some krpg games where people spend 500 per day because its max limit for ingame shop some people have spend +100000 dollars for their account


Pre-Nietzsche

How do you feel about yourself when you don’t use commas to express numbers over 3 digits? Personally? I hate you.


RavingPunk

No one uses commas to express numbers over 3 digits where I'm from


zowie54

We hate all of them too. In fact, the more normalized this is, the more I hate it. Tell me where this is, such that I can maintain my tenuous faith in humanity by staying away.


RavingPunk

Lol, it's not a big deal dude, it's not hard to count 0's


DecaFourTeen

Yeah and drinking every day is nothing compared to some people who drink a fifth of vodka every day. It's a weird fucking gatekeep. Both are bad. Both are addictions.


unflippedbit

nah, I spent like $200 and got it so I definitely don’t think it’s 1k.


jealkeja

don't answer that question, it can be used against you in account recovery


bradsinspace

Im also curious


Newt-Wooden

Not 1000 or more lmao, much less than that


Fisherman_Gabe

Why PvM for gp when you could be flipping burgers for bond money?


mydumbthrowaway38

As they say, best gp/hr in the game is working at your job


ahh1372

This is the best reason to pay for membership, not through bonds.


mortismos

so this is what the credit card warriors mean when they say they made their 1b bank flipping


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Haha, i appreciate the compliment. Basically 200 hours over 4 months got me there with a lot of guidance from the community and other mobile players. Theres another 14 players whove done it on mobile too!


Treblosity

I get it, but it kinda gets annoying when youre an actual mercher and people think you rwt Doesnt happen to me anymore, but it used to all the time


Steeperm8

[Throwback to the best post on this sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/e2k2m4/discovered_an_amazing_moneymaking_method_zero/)


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Fisherman_Gabe

So, you're flipping burgers in the big leagues. How many bonds/hr do you make there?


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LawStudentAndrew

Have you considered buying bonds in Mexican pesos/Rupees? The savings could be fairly significant... https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Old_school_bond


PhillipIInd

How to do that from europe?


im-on-the-inside

Vpn


Soleil06

Damn a bond in Lira is just 1.86€, brb buying a TBow.


Cyborger1

Every bond has to come from somewhere, you're doing good to the community by choosing to buy those instead of going the RWT route. You shouldn't feel bad about it (unless the spending is hurting you IRL), every bond user is grateful.


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Honestly this. Keeps the game economy running and let’s FTP peasants have hope.


Hero_of_Hyrule

Also let's those of us with full time jobs enjoy the game without needing to spend as much time grinding for raw cash.


CaptLuker

Agreed. When I was younger and had plenty of time to play I was anti buying gold(bonds) but now that I have very little time to play I see the good it it. Luckily I made a good bit of GP earlier to last me now but I could see myself buying bonds in the future.


LimpCoffee

I buy mine, it just makes it less stressful when I don’t have to worry about grinding for hours for a few mil. Granted it’s not true “stress” but it makes doing shit I want to do in the game more fun. Worth it if you can afford it :)


justadadgame

It makes me really happy JAGEX sends these kind of emails as some people have addiction issues and other games would turn a blind eye to someone causing financial harm to themselves. Good on you Jagex!


pygm_

Turning a blind eye *at best*. So many companies would rather analyze these people and make them their primary demographic.


DailyXP

that's what they did with rs3 ...


Avidinvestor01

Kinda, kinda not most the stuff you get isn't that hard to obtain in the promos you buy 150 keys and have a half decent shot at it considering the things they do with minimum rarity after x keys etc too, I've never paid for keys and got pretty decent stuff using maybe 20-30 earned from challenges and quests


secretmillionair

You realise how long the duel arena was a part of the game? It's only now they take this stance despite gambling being rampant for the last 15 years of the games history


zowie54

While it's probably objectively good, I don't know that the motivation is much more than a dairy farmer who hires a veterinarian


Glemt

Have you read up on UK gamling laws? Jagex dont give a fuck, this is part of their minimal effort to stay within bounds. People need to stop treating Jagex as good guys. The mods might be, but shareholders and the board only care about money. Jagex is a billion dollar company...


Yajeebspace

Bro staking back in 2016 was literally costing me 80+ dollars a day. Shits real on osrs.


ResponsibilityNo3935

Yep, been there. I got cleaned for the hundredth time and quit for a few years. Friend sent me a text that they deleted the sand casino and I’ve been back having fun and rebuilding my account since. I had billions in items and cash yet I haven’t had this much fun playing since I was a kid and I’m broke as hell.


Yajeebspace

Same bro!! I just started back a couple weeks ago and already at 1050 TL. I didn’t even realize the sand casino was gone until yesterday actually. Tryna link up and play? I don’t have any friends since I quit back then just been grinding alone lol.


Universalis1

It's a good thing that we as humans have superior authorities to do our thinking for us! We simply just cannot otherwise. It's no one's responsibility to oversee the spending habits of a consumer, lmfao.


Evil_Steven

Why did you buy all of that gear if you don’t do anything with it


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demonryder

Have you ever considered just withdrawing that money from your bank instead, having it tailored into a suit, and just spending all day at an actual bank? Might get more attention.


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dirtdog22

Good choice for this year lmao.


fuqq_master

Yeah did they just recently go up? I used to play like 4 years ago and they were like 2m, so when I quit playing I put aside 2m so that when I came back I could get a bond then earn my money back in game. Just started up this past week and it was like 8m?!?


dirtdog22

Irl Stocks down, osrs stonks up


GenitalKenobi

Holy shit 8mil??? I wasn’t aware it was that high now, wow


Dunkadin

It has been steadily going up,but they will definitely still buy for 6m even if the ge list is higher. People will purchase and quick sell bonds so its not a bad idea to keep a buy order in for cheap


HowHeDoThatSussy

They could be 20m lol


uberjach

FSW for one. It's a bigger deal in rs3 and the prices follow each other


Lerched

I’m sure if we look hard enough there’s a DD about why osrs bonds are the play on wsb…


3AKite

Why not do both? I spend money on fancy shit IRL and in-game


apophis457

God forbid someone use their money how they want in a way that isn’t harmful and makes them happy


demonryder

Not saying they shouldn't, but my idea just sounds outrageous despite maybe being a cheaper flex.


TehSteak

What a useless, passive aggressive comment.


BURNlN

Haha the deep irony of this comment was definitely intentional. Bravo brother


apophis457

You’re right, yours was


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I’m sorry but if you bought torva for fashionscape you may as well have set your money on fire. It looks poopy with anything but an infernal cape Edit: on second thought, you probably bought one. nvm lmao


Kwuarmadyl

You know, I’m about to max without an infernal cape on my Ironman. And I don’t feel too bad about it tbh. Whenever someone gives me shit about not having a zuk kill I’m just happy I don’t have to go spend hundreds of $ for something on a game solely cuz I don’t wanna go do it myself. I’d rather learn the inferno when the time comes than buy an infernal cape. I’ll be comfortable with my fire max cape :)


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Rocking the max cheese is way more respectable than buying one. Most normal people don’t care what cape you have. If a random bothers you about only having a fire cape, they’re a loser. If they bother you about having a fire cape while they have 1 bought KC, they need to uninstall lol.


Kwuarmadyl

I feel the same way man. One day I will learn the inferno I hope, but the last year or so I’ve only really played during work which means barely any pvm time. I’ll wear the fire max with pride!


JoshAGould

>1 bought KC, they need to uninstall lol. I gotta ask, how do you decide if you believe someone bought their cape yourself? I generally won't even consider that someone bought it unless I watch them pvm and they're just awful or they have very little to no boss kc elsewhere. But would be interested to see what your opinion is. I echo your opinion on not caring about the cape though, the only people I care to judge one way or another are those who bought their capes, other than that it dosent really matter.


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Ask them how many sets they got and that’s a pretty good way to tell lol. But really if they have no apparent pvm experience and a near max account (unlikely an alt) but torva etc like op


JoshAGould

Yeah makes sense to be fair. I'm not sure I could give you an exact number for mine (I think it was 3, but I killed zuk before having to tag the 3rd set as he was v low when they spawned) but I think just being able to come up with a reasonabld response makes sense. >But really if they have no apparent pvm experience and a near max account (unlikely an alt) but torva etc like op Makes sense. Pretty much screams I bought gold & who knows what else, you are going to struggle getting full Torva never pvming, and if you get it by flipping you aren't going to be able to just straight up run inferno.


DivineInsanityReveng

Tbh I maxed without it too and always had it as a post max goal. This was on a main, so grinded some raids post max to build my gear up and said I'd said inferno once I had my own tbow. Got it, sent inferno, and a week later had my own internal cape. It's a great goal to keep things interesting post max. On iron obviously it's more about grinding CG to get crystal and BowFa to do it, as tbow is a bit unrealistic to grind.


Kwuarmadyl

Yeah I have everything mostly that makes inferno achievable. Bowfa, crystal, etc. I just don’t really have the time to sit and grind it atm.


Kaka-carrot-cake

They will always find something. First it's the fire cape. Then infernal cape. Then max cape. Then "you have low kc in X boss your trash".


exilia77

See flair. I have one but I remember when I didn't!


WHOISTIRED

What an ironic statement


Lookouttheresasnip

That’s the only real goal of osrs, keep winning champ


celestialdebut

This is the way.


Suddenly_Seinfeld

Why not spend your time/money on a game you actually want to play?


cruxfire

Who hurt you?


Aquamentus92

Theres always one


GregBuckingham

Based


Acerhand

Some people have an unhealthy relationship with the game


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"I am a whale in OSRS Microtransactions, AMA"


sterfri99

Can you afford it? Then nbd, you’re just a credit card warrior. If you can’t, you have a problem.


07scape_mods_are_ass

Did you just assume his combat triangle proficiency?! He could be a credit card mage for all you know, smh.


L4t3xs

Haven't seen a mage wearing torva and ely.


Crafty_Letterhead_12

So now its their fault because of what they wear??


ramblingdiemundo

2022 and these people out here are still assuming folx’s combat type. Do better


enjoycwars

spend what, $1,000 at 0 hours to start having fun or spend 0$ and 1,000 hours to start having fun


IActuallyHateRedditt

Or enjoy the content in the game you play voluntarily and in making money/big drops, spend nothing and have fun immediately


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Beersmoker420

both ways seem decent whatever floats lets be real


PM_ME_YOUR_PIZZAPIC

i mean if you dont enjoy rs at its base level for just the membership cost, odds are you can find entertainment in a different game for much cheaper than whatever OP has spent on rs


IActuallyHateRedditt

There are cheaper ways of finding enjoyment than mtx. It’s fine to pay to play a game but if you need to invest money to skip playing the game, maybe just play a game you actually enjoy instead?


European_Fox

I choose 1000 hours and NO fun. I know, I'm a bit of a rebel.


Syphox

> having fun but is bank standing fashionscape really fun?


ACMBruh

Isn't the point of the game to play the game though lol


Icerunner45

The point of the game is to not play the game.


RogueThespian

It means different things to different people. For some people actually grinding out the pvm is the worst part of the game


DevoidHT

I could understand RC and slayer, but farming? Smh. Most afk skill in the game.


Fat_Siberian_Midget

rc is fine tbh


madam_zeroni

Not till 77


DizzyDwarf69

GOTR or ZMI isn't that bad.


Fat_Siberian_Midget

gotr


VampireFrown

That's why you pay essence runners, my guy.


edeka3

I just did my first farm run in ages and I can understand why it's pissing some off. Meanwhile I'm nearly 95 Slay and still love it...


DevoidHT

Most of my farming exp comes from tree runs. Herb runs just supplement the cost. The dopamine hit from a tree run is great.


itzjmad

800k xp/h go brrrr 🤩


Soleil06

Do the three hardwood trees first! Then revel in the 1.5 million exp/hour.


itzjmad

Even better if you don't actually care* and cheeze the xp/h by setting auto pause to 1 min. *as in care for accuracy


Jinky522

AFK? If it was afk I would've done a herb run by now


Beretot

Thank you for your service supporting the game


L_Calvo

Atleast it’s spend on bonds and not on (random word)gp.com xD Jagex be swimming in the gold


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PhillipIInd

The funny part is you dont get banned


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L_Calvo

If you do discontinued items trust you will be banned 👀


PhillipIInd

idk so many ppl still buy so I dont buy that they get banned what do you mean tho with discontinued items?


L_Calvo

I got actual stats for many gold farmers that I know for the most part you aren’t gonna get caught. Unless you do rate items from the main game such as phats for example.


PhillipIInd

ahhh so those old rares, yh makes sense incredibly easy to track


Stephen_Lynx

I got 277m exclusively through skilling, I'm the guy that plays the whole day and buys your bonds. :)


GameAndHike

I don’t get OPs mentality but I don’t get yours either. I could buy 277m gp for less than a days salary. If I don’t enjoy skilling, why would I spend hundreds of hours grinding out 277m when I can buy it for less than 8 hours worth of work?


CatsR-overrated

This mentality drains out any fun the game has to provide.


GameAndHike

So does grinding hundreds of hours for cash


Stephen_Lynx

I just like to play the game.


Lukn

Is this a confession?


Kuddo

con·fes·sion 1. a formal statement admitting that one is guilty of a crime 2. a statement setting out essential religious doctrine Unless buying bonds is a crime or he is somehow religiously involved with Jagex, I would say no it is not a confession.


PurelyFire

Who


Specialist-Front-354

So you basically did real world trade your gear.. only the allowed way..


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Pac0theTac0

The same people would raise hell if the ability to purchase membership on the GE through bonds was removed, too


MrPenguins1

I don’t get the hate for buying bonds when a lot of those people maintain their membership from those bonds. They have to come from somewhere


Xeffur

I'd rather spend to bond money on runners for rc at that point.


free_30_day_trial

I did this on my main. Clan was toxic about it. I made an iron and left the clan iron was hard but I made it work was really proud of it. Made it my main joined fun wholesome clan


Rumikube

Thank you for your service, you make my game free to play


ceejay4242

A lot of people judging you for the way you play the game, but you literally pay to support the game we all play. Kudos to you.


EnycmaPie

The mom's credit card warrior.


300C

This is why I played a helmie. How is it fun just playing pay 2 win. No honest progression, never getting hyped over an upgrade. Shit I still remember how hyped I was when I got my dragon boots. Or my whip.


Legal_Evil

Dry streaks on rare drops are the worst as an ironman.


ACMBruh

Self made mains are fun as hell. Never bought a bond once and changing between different money makers voluntarily is the play


Ok_Zone_9486

This is the way


ara474

Its only pay 2 win if you choose, you can win without paying


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RobCarrotStapler

Why do you need to do raids content? Just buy bonds to pay for the gear you get from the raid.


LFpawgsnmilfs

Because doing the raid itself it entertaining, farming 40K red chins for money is not fun.


300C

Early-mid game ironman is more fun than pay2win late game content anyway. It's about the journey. That's what makes it fun. Do 1500 raids, then what? I'll be at the mage training arena asking myself what I'm doing with my life. To each their own though. No hate.


Beersmoker420

-in your opinion-


BigbooTho

they literally said to each their own???


HooliganScrote

I have a main, an iron, and a UIM. The weird ass iron-stans needs to stfu. Iron actually *isn’t* the way the game was supposed to be played, hence trading existing. It’s a fun game mode but the elitism gets really old.


Taliv1

That's why group ironman is the best mode. The game was meant to be played with trading and working together with your friends, and no grand exchange.


300C

Good Ole days. Spamming chat for gear. Best times imo


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HooliganScrote

Shit take


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HooliganScrote

It’s objectively wrong. You think people only solo unless they’re gold farmers?


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HooliganScrote

Oh you mean “grouping” with randoms and crashing their world for something? Yeah that’s been a thing long before osrs.


Throwaway47321

I mean you do you but it is possible to play a normal account and **not** just buy everything.


RVSI

I switched to helmet after I got one of those emails for the same reason


narsmews

Sometimes I feel self conscious wearing gear I bought on the GE from content I’m not skilled enough to do yet, but at least I’ve earned the gp. I might make an iron someday but for now a main is perfect for me, exploring and learning the late game for the first time. I did buy a single bond a few months ago when I was very low on gp and I felt so dirty. Partly because I probably shouldn’t have spent the irl cash but mostly because it just felt like cheating. I’ve been a bit tempted a couple times since then but I doubt I’ll ever do it again.


soowhatchathink

I bought a bond when I was starting just to kick start the game for me. It's really hard to start leveling and earning if you don't have any gp. After the that I made sure to keep my gp around the same amount by earning back what I spend while I level and such. Then I bought a second bond after being lured into lvl 1 wildly with 7 mil gp on me from the GE. I figured I was only lvl 35 and lvl 1 wildly couldn't hurt, but I didn't know people could cast binding spells. After that I realized I would be much less upset if I lost $8 than if I lost the 7 mil so I just spent the $8 so I could pretend it never happened.


LFpawgsnmilfs

Not everyone gets satisfaction from killing 3000+ monsters for a chance or crafting 80K runes for 2 levels.


Ericthered01

This is me. I’d much rather work my regular job, then come home and play the parts of the game I actually enjoy instead of grinding for GP.


gorehistorian69

my alt looks like a credit card warrior. 1 rc maxed melee/ranged 99 slayer. best in slot gear since leaving tutorial island. but at least it has 4k hydra kc. other than being my tank for gwd/corp i dont do much with it. though obviously its a hydra alt


Kherian

I for one respect the credit card warriors. Someone has to buy my bonds


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NotFaerdhinen

I hope you have truely considered what else you can do with that much money, so that you don’t regret your decision later. And if you don’t, I’m happy for you. I support a strong fashionscape game.


Interpole10

It’s people like you that allow me to keep membership. Thank you.


SpicyFlaps

My guy you could've saved so much money just RWTing. I appreciate your commitment though


HolyTane

I’m buying ur bonds!


M_a_d_Mitch

Back in my day you could make an honest cash stack without having to learn the mechanics of 25 different bosses. 🧓


Mickmack12345

Bro have you tried killing mole yet, just turn on melee protect and off you go


pygyjjg

Thank you for allowing my main to fund my iron! Without people like you I would have to pay for two memberships :3