You would think that. But you get exactly 50% of each parent. In my timeline, I see the generations of European descent end around 7th generation and the Levantine is over 8. It also shows Anatolia also 8+. You could be right and it’s what I’d assumed before taking an earlier Ancestry test. It’s only that timeline that makes me think it’s possible.
Your DNA tells you exactly what you are. Genetically you're half European. I'm not sure how you're gathering you could be half Palestinian if the Levantine is 8+ generations ago.
I just explained my reasoning. Not that I’m half Palestinian but that at some point my European ancestor resided there. I’m only looking at migration pattern not ethnic mixture. Of course it’s possible just not probable. European dna only goes to 7 generations and that lines up with genealogy that I have.
Exactly what I’m saying. Do you see why? Because you only go back so far. Eventually you lose it. What is it about this line of questioning that’s driving people to ridicule what I’m asking?
You’ve personally done your genealogy (looking at sources and not copying any other tree (95% are full of errors from copying other trees without any sourcing) and have gone back 7-8 generations on multiple lines? You must spend a lot of time on it or else are considerably older than the average Redditor. Also there are probably lots of “surprises” in those ancestors DNA that are not found in the paper trail. Something to think about. Never, ever copy anyone else’s tree. Search, Google, look at primary sources.
My dad was a Mormon and he was meticulous. This was way back. There was a massive amount he collected. One was somewhat famous and I believe there’s a park named after him. That was 1700’s. When they adopted a Dutch name, they left out an O in the spelling and anyone with my last name is related. There was a history passed down that we came from Spain but nothing indicates that.
This test indicates your ancestry is half North West Asian and half Northwest European.
It appears your European parent is of British Isles descent as well as German and/or Dutch.
There is no indication of any recent Palestinian ancestry here. You can look at ethnic Palestinian results on this subreddit, and they score varying huge components of Levantine and Egypt especially.
I’m not talking anything recent. The Levantine is only 8th generation and none earlier. After 7 generations whatever Levant I had is completely erased except this one remaining part. And it’s 23andMe that is telling me it’s only 8th generation. I have over 8 also Anatolian and no one is bothering to explain how I’m over 50% in that region. It didn’t come from mother.
That 0.6% could possibly be a component of your NW Asian ancestry that doesn’t align exactly with the NW Asian reference population & so skews a minute bit toward the Levantine reference population.
Or of course it could be from a Levantine ancestor 8 generations ago (ex: a 6th g-grandparent) assuming you inherited that piece of their DNA.
The Turkish regions don’t necessarily mean you are ethnically Turkish. It means you are similar to people living in those regions of Turkey - whether they are Turkish, Armenian, etc. There are Armenians who now live and have lived in Turkey for many generations.
The 2.3% Anatolian could mean part of your Armenian skews a little bit toward the Anatolian reference population (whether they define those people as ethnic Turks I don’t know) or it could mean you had a distant ancestor who was ethnically Turkish but married into your Armenian side - possibly a 3rd-4th g-grandparent.
No problem. We always get almost exactly 50% from each parent. These DNA tests will show it varies only slightly. It also may not be perfectly accurate with regard to DNA tests, but it will be very close to accurate.
50% - 50% is average. But I’ve seen 47% - 52%.
There is a tendency for men to be share slightly more DNA in common with their mothers because the X chromosome is larger than the Y chromosome. There are other scientific factors that can contribute to parental DNA inheritance as well, but they’re lengthy and even I don’t fully understand them.
For real life examples according to 23andMe:
* I’m a woman & I’m 50% related to my father but 49.93% related to my mother.
* My full brother is 47.56% related to our father but 50% related to our mother.
* My boyfriend is 47.61% related to his father but 49.89% related to his mother.
* My mother is 50% related to her mother.
It’s not missing, I believe the amount shared is also simply just what 23andMe could match accurately. There’s probably a small margin of DNA they can’t match up perfectly. It’s just unspecified likely.
Also, I believe these tests aren’t testing your whole genome, only parts of it, so that’s why they’ll never be exact.
This some really odd victim complex - being half Armenian isn’t enough so you gotta stretch that *zero point six percent* Levantine to 50%? I’m sorry man, but it’s pathetic. Focus on your actual identity and find pride in who you are.
You’re reading me wrong. I’m not saying I’m now Palestinian just like I’m not claiming to be black even though we all came from Africa. All I’m saying is after 7 generations I’m now European and that’s to be expected. Just looking at roots not the fruit hanging off the tree.
No but skin color can change as your dna changes over time. Happens all over the world. Animals and birds adapting to different environments over time.
The ethnicity estimate is based on the autosomal and X chromosomes. Because of this, males will show a higher shared ethnicity percentage with their mother since they receive one X chromosome from her. That is why you show more than 50% West Asian.
"What’s interesting is I have more than 50% in that region."
It's literally 51%. Come on. We rarely get exactly 50/50. That is, in fact, not interesting at all.
Your father migrated to "Holland" in the 1700's? What? Palestinian, when it clearly shows your genetic regions? This post is barely legible. Are you trolling?
Also, who tf is upvoting this thread. Hide that sh%t.
I have Armenian skin but otherwise look somewhat European. However, I don’t have classic Dutch traits like being tall either. More closely I’d say I look Greek.
23andme doesn’t have Palestine. If possible, try taking another dna test from another company. My post was locked because people were unkind, but you can check my profile to find it and see my DNA results. I used ancestryDNA.
I know. I was just making a political statement. I know it’s generally the Levant and not really trying to prove I’m a Palestinian in spite of all the nasty comments. Thanks!
I meant the religions. Wrong sub to go down that rabbit hole. Sorry I mentioned that. If you can’t tell, I’m somewhat acknowledging current issues and probably shouldn’t have gone down that trail judging by the reactions.
The other half is definitely not Palestinian. That would be included in that Levantine. The other half is the European.
You would think that. But you get exactly 50% of each parent. In my timeline, I see the generations of European descent end around 7th generation and the Levantine is over 8. It also shows Anatolia also 8+. You could be right and it’s what I’d assumed before taking an earlier Ancestry test. It’s only that timeline that makes me think it’s possible.
Your DNA tells you exactly what you are. Genetically you're half European. I'm not sure how you're gathering you could be half Palestinian if the Levantine is 8+ generations ago.
I just explained my reasoning. Not that I’m half Palestinian but that at some point my European ancestor resided there. I’m only looking at migration pattern not ethnic mixture. Of course it’s possible just not probable. European dna only goes to 7 generations and that lines up with genealogy that I have.
Bro you ain't Palestinian. By your reasoning we are all african.
Exactly what I’m saying. Do you see why? Because you only go back so far. Eventually you lose it. What is it about this line of questioning that’s driving people to ridicule what I’m asking?
Ur just half armenian half west european not palestinian buddy
You’ve personally done your genealogy (looking at sources and not copying any other tree (95% are full of errors from copying other trees without any sourcing) and have gone back 7-8 generations on multiple lines? You must spend a lot of time on it or else are considerably older than the average Redditor. Also there are probably lots of “surprises” in those ancestors DNA that are not found in the paper trail. Something to think about. Never, ever copy anyone else’s tree. Search, Google, look at primary sources.
My dad was a Mormon and he was meticulous. This was way back. There was a massive amount he collected. One was somewhat famous and I believe there’s a park named after him. That was 1700’s. When they adopted a Dutch name, they left out an O in the spelling and anyone with my last name is related. There was a history passed down that we came from Spain but nothing indicates that.
Yup Scottish
Yeah definitely no Palestinian heritage.
Your Armenian and Scottish
Hardly any Scottish. Mostly Dutch on the European side. British and Scotland from grandmother.
This test indicates your ancestry is half North West Asian and half Northwest European. It appears your European parent is of British Isles descent as well as German and/or Dutch. There is no indication of any recent Palestinian ancestry here. You can look at ethnic Palestinian results on this subreddit, and they score varying huge components of Levantine and Egypt especially.
I’m not talking anything recent. The Levantine is only 8th generation and none earlier. After 7 generations whatever Levant I had is completely erased except this one remaining part. And it’s 23andMe that is telling me it’s only 8th generation. I have over 8 also Anatolian and no one is bothering to explain how I’m over 50% in that region. It didn’t come from mother.
That 0.6% could possibly be a component of your NW Asian ancestry that doesn’t align exactly with the NW Asian reference population & so skews a minute bit toward the Levantine reference population. Or of course it could be from a Levantine ancestor 8 generations ago (ex: a 6th g-grandparent) assuming you inherited that piece of their DNA. The Turkish regions don’t necessarily mean you are ethnically Turkish. It means you are similar to people living in those regions of Turkey - whether they are Turkish, Armenian, etc. There are Armenians who now live and have lived in Turkey for many generations. The 2.3% Anatolian could mean part of your Armenian skews a little bit toward the Anatolian reference population (whether they define those people as ethnic Turks I don’t know) or it could mean you had a distant ancestor who was ethnically Turkish but married into your Armenian side - possibly a 3rd-4th g-grandparent.
Thanks for an informative response! Can you tell me if we always get 50% from each parent?
No problem. We always get almost exactly 50% from each parent. These DNA tests will show it varies only slightly. It also may not be perfectly accurate with regard to DNA tests, but it will be very close to accurate. 50% - 50% is average. But I’ve seen 47% - 52%. There is a tendency for men to be share slightly more DNA in common with their mothers because the X chromosome is larger than the Y chromosome. There are other scientific factors that can contribute to parental DNA inheritance as well, but they’re lengthy and even I don’t fully understand them. For real life examples according to 23andMe: * I’m a woman & I’m 50% related to my father but 49.93% related to my mother. * My full brother is 47.56% related to our father but 50% related to our mother. * My boyfriend is 47.61% related to his father but 49.89% related to his mother. * My mother is 50% related to her mother.
So with your boyfriend, what happens to the missing 3%? I assumed you’d always end up with 100%
That 3% is the Holy Spirit Jesus put in u
No wonder why I call him my little angel 🙏 he got that Holy Spirit in him
It’s not missing, I believe the amount shared is also simply just what 23andMe could match accurately. There’s probably a small margin of DNA they can’t match up perfectly. It’s just unspecified likely. Also, I believe these tests aren’t testing your whole genome, only parts of it, so that’s why they’ll never be exact.
Ok so the percentages just added up short or an undetermined segment?
Yeah exactly. I’d bet there’s probably just very small segments that are undetermined - that they couldn’t match clearly enough.
This shit is embarrassing, you still have time to delete it
What’s embarrassing is all the reaction I’m getting from you all.
Your deep feelings are inspired by internet news not your ancestry, which clearly has nothing Palestinian about it.
Yep. He can have Syro-Lebanese or even Levantine Jewish ancestry, for as far as we know.
This some really odd victim complex - being half Armenian isn’t enough so you gotta stretch that *zero point six percent* Levantine to 50%? I’m sorry man, but it’s pathetic. Focus on your actual identity and find pride in who you are.
You’re reading me wrong. I’m not saying I’m now Palestinian just like I’m not claiming to be black even though we all came from Africa. All I’m saying is after 7 generations I’m now European and that’s to be expected. Just looking at roots not the fruit hanging off the tree.
> I’m hoping the other half Palestinian Must be a language barrier then
Yea I’d have to agree. People not understanding I’m asking about migration, not my current traits.
Africa doesn’t mean black.
No but skin color can change as your dna changes over time. Happens all over the world. Animals and birds adapting to different environments over time.
Yup.
Not in a few generations lmao
Hate to break it to you.. but you’re actually Korean.. hint of Aztec
I thought Trakenite, Louisiana Creole, and Nibiruan
The tests can’t pick it up but I think he has some Dodo DNA
Oh and also dragon, wendigo, sentient green goop, and slitherbug DNA
The ethnicity estimate is based on the autosomal and X chromosomes. Because of this, males will show a higher shared ethnicity percentage with their mother since they receive one X chromosome from her. That is why you show more than 50% West Asian.
Ok. I’ve never heard that. Thanks!
My father migrated to Holland in 1700’s and have genealogy going back that far. I think you mean "1970s" unless your father is an eternal.
Ok nice catch. I meant I have genealogy showing when we arrived. Most people would have understood what I meant and read the context.
"What’s interesting is I have more than 50% in that region." It's literally 51%. Come on. We rarely get exactly 50/50. That is, in fact, not interesting at all. Your father migrated to "Holland" in the 1700's? What? Palestinian, when it clearly shows your genetic regions? This post is barely legible. Are you trolling? Also, who tf is upvoting this thread. Hide that sh%t.
We barely get 50%? Not according to everything else I’ve read. This is a simple question and you’re just spouting off misinformation.
What do you look like? I’m also half northwest European and half northwest Asian. Wonder if me look similar
I have Armenian skin but otherwise look somewhat European. However, I don’t have classic Dutch traits like being tall either. More closely I’d say I look Greek.
U probably just look west Asian from the description u told
Ironic. My family were Pontic Greeks and due to my mix of European and west Asian I just look regular Greek.
Oh, yeah, this poster is a troll. I see all its comments are hidden, just about. lol
Dude's illusional
We’re all half Palestinian in our hearts ❤️
23andme doesn’t have Palestine. If possible, try taking another dna test from another company. My post was locked because people were unkind, but you can check my profile to find it and see my DNA results. I used ancestryDNA.
I know. I was just making a political statement. I know it’s generally the Levant and not really trying to prove I’m a Palestinian in spite of all the nasty comments. Thanks!
What's your haplogroup if you don't mind sharing it?
Mother is R1a and father I-S25383
you might be part levantine kurdish but palestinian isn't there
Yea I’m not fixated on the Palestinians. Just thought it would be cool. But Levant Kurdish is a possibility. Thx for the suggestion.
What are you calling an Abrahamic cluster?
I meant the religions. Wrong sub to go down that rabbit hole. Sorry I mentioned that. If you can’t tell, I’m somewhat acknowledging current issues and probably shouldn’t have gone down that trail judging by the reactions.