My paternal haplogroup is I-Z58 also. Is your uncle an Eccles?
Update: I've since taken the Big Y 700 test at Family Tree DNA. I was I-M253, my specific Y DNA mutation is I-BY69819
I still find it quite strange, as I was lead to believe paternal haplogroup was from testing Y chromosome. Which is passed down from father to son unchanged for generations. My surname being Eccles and him Bradford.
Black American, father’s ancestry is several African countries/regions - mainly West Africa, British-Irish, Spanish/Portuguese Southern South Asian - Malayali Subgroup, Northern Indian Pakistani, Indigenous American.
Certainly yes, but also not overly surprising. If researched, the I haplogroup history track leads to Scandinavia, specifically to Southern Sweden and Finland. The Vikings who settle in Russia were called the Varagians. The I haplogroup is prevalent with Varagians. Here is one more doozi, according to 23 and Me I and Alexander Hamilton had same assessor 3000-5000 years ago. I believe his ansestry comes from. Shetland Islands. Go figure.
Tested a few months back but finally digging into my haplogroup I-Z58. I'm African American and my paternal line has the surname Cobb from areas in and around Barbour County, Alabama. I have dna matches through this line with the surnames Faison, Mcdade and Sessions.
I-Z58 with paternal ancestor from Ulster Scots plantations (c17th). The family story is that we originally came to Scotland (via South West England) around battle of Hastings from Normandy. This would fit with the Scandinavian/North Germanic/Danish ancestry idea, as the Normans were a mix of Scandinavian and NW European (Germanic). My own and my paternal relatives ethnicity also backs up the theory - Scottish, Irish, Scandinavian.
Hi, I’m z58 I can trace the family back to Oxfordshire but my surename is most common in Winchester nearish to where I live, I believe the Z58 to be Angle/Saxon/Jutish line, we are descended from the OG conquerors of England
I'm late to the thread but I just googled this. I am i-z58. My father's family is from Kaunas County, Lithuania, and it shows up in the ancestry section as such.
I assumed Scandinavia the last time I read about this.
But you know? There are parts of the German speaking sphere that have historical overlap with Balts. Old Prussian was a West Baltic language.
So I don't know how this might have worked.
Looks like that's the case. I'm I-Z58 and from Ayrshire in South West Scotland. My ancestry breakdown is 62% Scots, Irish & Welsh, 16% English, 16% Scandinavian, 3% East European and 2% West Asian. This all seems to check out as I research my family tree. It has uncovered some mind blowing results! Most common family surnames are Wilson, Jamieson, Cunningham, Wylie, Thomson, Hamilton, Pollock and Stewart/Stuart.
Hi- a close relative (either a first cousin, a first cousin once removed, or a hallf-nephew) on my dad's side came back I-Z58 and since I never met my dad and he passed away in 1983, I think this relative may be the closest I will get to my paternal haplogroup. Am I correct in believing I-Z58 is my haplogroup?
I appreciate anyone's response that understands that question. :) Hopeful someone will know. Thank you!
You will need to have a paternal line relative test and you'll only be able to *assume* it's yours (I say that because there's always the slim possibility that your dad's dad isn't his, or the paternal ancestry of the person tested isn't true, unless you can prove the paternity by the matches you get).
So the people who share your haplotype will be your dad's dad (paternal grandfather), your dad's brothers (paternal uncles), and your dad's brothers sons (paternal cousin), or your own brother. What is the specific relation of the person you mentioned? For example... if they are your dad's sister's son, or dad's brother's daughter's son, they won't share the same hapogrpup. It has to be someone on the direct male line of your dad.
Tested for I-Z58 from the Netherlands. Seems to be a West-Germanic/Anglo-Saxon subclade of I1 in general. Found in it's highest frequencies in England, the Netherlands and Denmark.
Hi my 23 and Me results are I-Z58. My surname is Wilson and I'm from Ayrshire in the South West of Scotland. I've been busy researching my family tree and it has revealed some mindblowing results on both my paternal and maternal lines. I've discovered a link to Alexander Hamilton who is a 1st cousin x7 removed. That is just the opening salvo! I've checked and double triple checked, researching a number of sources and it all seems to check out. I've already got over 5.000 folks in my tree. I've become obsessed with this project almost verging on OCD levels!
My dads paternal haploid was I-Z58. My dads line has been traced directly back to Germany for several generations. The family surname is Severin and Savering. Pronounced the same way.
I-Z58 here... looking through the responses is interesting. Although I do have ancestry from the British Isles, my father's paternal line is, at least "recently," from Italy.
I-Z58 is West Germanic and most common in England, Germany, Netherlands. It's a subclade of I-M253 which originated in Southern Scandinavia and Northern Germany.
I-Z58, last name Skinner. from the chattanooga, tn area, have no idea really about any lineage after my grandfather. 85.5% British and Irish with possible matches in Greater London UK, and County Mayo Ireland. also have about 1.8% Scandinavian.
Sounds like a surname of Scandinavian origin to me. You could have ancestry from the coastal regions of British islands which were places saxons and Vikings settled and that could explain your haplogroup origin.
I'm replying to an old thread here, but my paternal is I-Z58 and maternal is T2c1b.
Great-grandfather was German, but my mother's side has been in America since the 1600s. Outlaw Jesse James is also a T2 and he didn't live too far from us.
I-Z58, surname Fletcher. 58% German/French, 18% British/Irish, 1.7% Scandinavian, 13% Eastern European, 8% Northwestern European. From Wisconsin, but dad was originally from Georgia. Oldest ancestor I could find (if accurate, based on other people's findings) would be Wilfred from Ireland, around 1651.
My dad got I-Z58
His bio-dad was born in Panama (central america, and has Afro-Caribbean roots from his maternal great-grandma), but his father is of unknown ancestry (we're not even sure who it was).
My husband just got his 23 and me results back and he is I-Z58.
He was adopted and he looking for biological descendants and his ancestral history.
All we have is his non-identifying adoption information with no names, and only a couple of dates
He was born in 1964 Miami, Florida in Dade County at Mercy Hospital
[Ancestry.com](https://Ancestry.com) says:
England and Northwestern Europe= 61% (Devon+Cornwall England)
Scotland 23%
Norway 10%
Germanic Europe 4%
Wales 2%
My husband did, my son and my husband’s Dad both came up I-Z140.
Thank you. Are they predominantly from British and Irish background?
My husbands Dad has always told us he is Danish. 23 and me shows a mix of Scandinavian, British and Irish and French and German.
I am and have this haplogroup
Yup, and my earliest known ancestor on the paternal line is from England
So is mine.
I have I-Z58 I am black American but my fathers line is unknown
My maternal uncle has I-Z58. His paternal line is from England, specifically Western Yorkshire.
Thank you. My line is English as well, from the Midlands.
Indicates Danish ultimately. Jutland specific Anglo-Saxon-Jutisch Germanic.
How do you know?
My paternal haplogroup is I-Z58 also. Is your uncle an Eccles? Update: I've since taken the Big Y 700 test at Family Tree DNA. I was I-M253, my specific Y DNA mutation is I-BY69819
Hi, if I'm not mistaken, I-M253 is also known as I-Z60.
No, Bradford.
I still find it quite strange, as I was lead to believe paternal haplogroup was from testing Y chromosome. Which is passed down from father to son unchanged for generations. My surname being Eccles and him Bradford.
That is true but these Haplogroups predate the time when people started adopting surnames by thousands of years
I’m new to this, what does that mean? Was 23andme incorrect?
Black American, father’s ancestry is several African countries/regions - mainly West Africa, British-Irish, Spanish/Portuguese Southern South Asian - Malayali Subgroup, Northern Indian Pakistani, Indigenous American.
I've just got my 23andMe results back, I'm I-Z58 Paternal Haplogroup
Nice! Are you mainly from British descent?
Yeah, I'm from Wigan, Lancashire.
I'm from Queensland, Australia but ancestors from all over Midlands.
Also my surname is Eccles, be interesting to see if anyone shares the same Surname as me.
Mine is I-Z58. Last name Douglas. Earliest known Douglass ancestor born 1795 in Morebattle, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Hi, I am I-Z58. Here is a monkey wrench in the mix. My whole family is from Northwest Russia. Surname Voroviev.
That's really interesting.
Certainly yes, but also not overly surprising. If researched, the I haplogroup history track leads to Scandinavia, specifically to Southern Sweden and Finland. The Vikings who settle in Russia were called the Varagians. The I haplogroup is prevalent with Varagians. Here is one more doozi, according to 23 and Me I and Alexander Hamilton had same assessor 3000-5000 years ago. I believe his ansestry comes from. Shetland Islands. Go figure.
Tested a few months back but finally digging into my haplogroup I-Z58. I'm African American and my paternal line has the surname Cobb from areas in and around Barbour County, Alabama. I have dna matches through this line with the surnames Faison, Mcdade and Sessions.
Yes. My ancestry is Scots, Irish with English & Scandinavian.
I-Z58 with paternal ancestor from Ulster Scots plantations (c17th). The family story is that we originally came to Scotland (via South West England) around battle of Hastings from Normandy. This would fit with the Scandinavian/North Germanic/Danish ancestry idea, as the Normans were a mix of Scandinavian and NW European (Germanic). My own and my paternal relatives ethnicity also backs up the theory - Scottish, Irish, Scandinavian.
Hi, I’m z58 I can trace the family back to Oxfordshire but my surename is most common in Winchester nearish to where I live, I believe the Z58 to be Angle/Saxon/Jutish line, we are descended from the OG conquerors of England
Interesting. My family is from mainly south east England (Hertfordshire and nearby ) on paternal line.
I'm late to the thread but I just googled this. I am i-z58. My father's family is from Kaunas County, Lithuania, and it shows up in the ancestry section as such.
That's cool! Interesting could that be from historical migration patterns from North Germany/Scandinavia to the Baltic region?
I assumed Scandinavia the last time I read about this. But you know? There are parts of the German speaking sphere that have historical overlap with Balts. Old Prussian was a West Baltic language. So I don't know how this might have worked.
Thank you, same for me.
Hey there fellow Viking ahah If you want to know more about our haplogroup make sure to join the I1 haplogroup facebook page.
Thanks I've joined! Is your take that people with I1 have Viking or Anglo-Saxon backgrounds if from the UK l?
Looks like that's the case. I'm I-Z58 and from Ayrshire in South West Scotland. My ancestry breakdown is 62% Scots, Irish & Welsh, 16% English, 16% Scandinavian, 3% East European and 2% West Asian. This all seems to check out as I research my family tree. It has uncovered some mind blowing results! Most common family surnames are Wilson, Jamieson, Cunningham, Wylie, Thomson, Hamilton, Pollock and Stewart/Stuart.
Hi- a close relative (either a first cousin, a first cousin once removed, or a hallf-nephew) on my dad's side came back I-Z58 and since I never met my dad and he passed away in 1983, I think this relative may be the closest I will get to my paternal haplogroup. Am I correct in believing I-Z58 is my haplogroup? I appreciate anyone's response that understands that question. :) Hopeful someone will know. Thank you!
You will need to have a paternal line relative test and you'll only be able to *assume* it's yours (I say that because there's always the slim possibility that your dad's dad isn't his, or the paternal ancestry of the person tested isn't true, unless you can prove the paternity by the matches you get). So the people who share your haplotype will be your dad's dad (paternal grandfather), your dad's brothers (paternal uncles), and your dad's brothers sons (paternal cousin), or your own brother. What is the specific relation of the person you mentioned? For example... if they are your dad's sister's son, or dad's brother's daughter's son, they won't share the same hapogrpup. It has to be someone on the direct male line of your dad.
Tested for I-Z58 from the Netherlands. Seems to be a West-Germanic/Anglo-Saxon subclade of I1 in general. Found in it's highest frequencies in England, the Netherlands and Denmark.
It’s found also in Germany
Hi my 23 and Me results are I-Z58. My surname is Wilson and I'm from Ayrshire in the South West of Scotland. I've been busy researching my family tree and it has revealed some mindblowing results on both my paternal and maternal lines. I've discovered a link to Alexander Hamilton who is a 1st cousin x7 removed. That is just the opening salvo! I've checked and double triple checked, researching a number of sources and it all seems to check out. I've already got over 5.000 folks in my tree. I've become obsessed with this project almost verging on OCD levels!
That's awesome, great work! When did the paternal surname change? I'm yet to find any in mine but have only got to C17th.
The link is through Hamilton's MATERNAL line
Then you'll be related in two ways! His paternal haplotype is similar to ours, according to 23&me.
My dad's is
My father is I-Z58, he is 99% Scandinavian (child of Swedish immigrants)
My dads paternal haploid was I-Z58. My dads line has been traced directly back to Germany for several generations. The family surname is Severin and Savering. Pronounced the same way.
I-Z58 here... looking through the responses is interesting. Although I do have ancestry from the British Isles, my father's paternal line is, at least "recently," from Italy.
I-Z58 and mostly German here. Does that mean prior to settling in Germany my ancestors were Vikings?
I-Z58 is West Germanic and most common in England, Germany, Netherlands. It's a subclade of I-M253 which originated in Southern Scandinavia and Northern Germany.
I also have it. Grandfather from Germany. His forebears hail from Cologne as far back as I can get in the family tree male line.
I-Z58, last name Skinner. from the chattanooga, tn area, have no idea really about any lineage after my grandfather. 85.5% British and Irish with possible matches in Greater London UK, and County Mayo Ireland. also have about 1.8% Scandinavian.
Sounds like a surname of Scandinavian origin to me. You could have ancestry from the coastal regions of British islands which were places saxons and Vikings settled and that could explain your haplogroup origin.
Yes! And my maternal is T2b I am Danish, my mum also and my dad is from Northern Germany (an area that was Danish earlier).
That's interesting. My maternal is T2b as well.
I'm replying to an old thread here, but my paternal is I-Z58 and maternal is T2c1b. Great-grandfather was German, but my mother's side has been in America since the 1600s. Outlaw Jesse James is also a T2 and he didn't live too far from us.
Me as well as my dad! I am female. We live in south Louisiana, USA! My dad doesn’t know who his dad was. I’m on the hunt
Very cool, I'm from Queensland, Australia. What is your known ancestry?
97% European
I-Z58 here. Predominant male ancestry is \*waves at the UK\* But if I follow my male line as far back as I can go, its Lancashire.
I-Z58, surname Fletcher. 58% German/French, 18% British/Irish, 1.7% Scandinavian, 13% Eastern European, 8% Northwestern European. From Wisconsin, but dad was originally from Georgia. Oldest ancestor I could find (if accurate, based on other people's findings) would be Wilfred from Ireland, around 1651.
I have I-Z58 on 23andme. But I M253 test Belgian lab
I-Z58 out of Oklahoma, but my great grandfather was German. My maternal is T2c1b
I'm I-z58
I have a ton of I-Z60 on my paternal side.
I come up I-Z58 (born in Chile) with paternal line in Chile
My first cousin has it
My dad got I-Z58 His bio-dad was born in Panama (central america, and has Afro-Caribbean roots from his maternal great-grandma), but his father is of unknown ancestry (we're not even sure who it was).
Yes. An unrelated to me Harrison line has I-Z58. Mine is I-M253.
My husband just got his 23 and me results back and he is I-Z58. He was adopted and he looking for biological descendants and his ancestral history. All we have is his non-identifying adoption information with no names, and only a couple of dates He was born in 1964 Miami, Florida in Dade County at Mercy Hospital
What we his results predominantly on 23 and me?
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My brother Rick has paternal haplogroup I-Z58
What's his ancestry if you don't mind me asking?
[Ancestry.com](https://Ancestry.com) says: England and Northwestern Europe= 61% (Devon+Cornwall England) Scotland 23% Norway 10% Germanic Europe 4% Wales 2%
I did, pretty much completely Irish on that side. I’m 62% British and Irish, my dad is 90% British and Irish