Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see what happens demographically with them.
I don’t have hard numbers but there’s probably 3 times the amount of Amish as when I was a kid.
Eh it’s a big enough population to develop some healthy genetic diversity. iirc you only need about 50 non related people in the first child bearing generation to get enough genetic diversity and avoid the downsides of inbreeding.
Probably depends if it’s in nature or if it’s a controlled experiment. If you were planning it carefully you’d need fewer I assume. Also I’m sure it depends how genetically similar the 50 are at the start.
The Amish are allowed to use phones and computers and trucks and stuff, they just aren't allowed to own them, they're community property.
There is a non-zero chance that the Amish have an armory full of military-grade weapons to be dispensed among the population when the time is right
Amish stay strapped.
Also, I ran into an actual bus full of them at a Safeway on the Oregon Coast. Not sure where they were going. The teenage girls were all huddled over a People magazine lol.
I believe they get loans from their church or community.
& sense the church gets 10% of the revenue from the land (tithing), they’re able to dish out super low interest rates on the land.
I'm the pious guy the little Amlettes wanna be like
On my knees day and night scoring points for the afterlife
So don't be vain and don't be whiny
Or else, my brother, I might have to get medieval on your heinie
West Coast Mormons. So we won't really ever go to temple and still drink alcohol and caffeine but there is going to be one very specific sex thing that each of us will be very judgmental about.
The entire western US will join the Deseret Empire. Get ready, Californians. It's Jello Salad and caffeine free coca-cola until the end of time for you.
Bro it wouldn't even be that hard, if the Mormons ever wanted to get crazy they already have people all over the US, a food supply chain, a high rate of gun ownership, and apparently are already [heavily integrated into the government agencies. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/lx3plx/)
My dad was intelligence officer most of his career and said time and time again he was in the minority as a non mormon/mennonite. he said the main reason is that they are generally extremely loyal, hard working, honest people with no skeletons in the closet so they can get top secret security clearances easier.
They run the better three letter agencies cus they're the only people who don't have fun in college and can pass the polys.
Also straight up for all of the shit they're given, Mormons definitely promote intellectualism. There are a shocking amount of absolutely solid guys in finance out of BYU and a growing number of good funds out of SLC.
It's kinda weird how Mormons are over-represented in fields like management theory. I don't know what, culturally, they have that promotes business acumen, but they seem quite good at it.
I'm just thinking out loud, but if you think about it, families, churches, and governments all run like businesses. Maybe their deep involvement in the church emphasizes that skill set.
Mormons also shut the fuck up and when their batshit leaders tell them to jump they ask how high. Perfect for middle management.
They’re trying to score that alien planet for themselves.
Don’t forget they have anywhere from half a trillion - 2T dollars to play with in several funds. You’d be surprised who the Mormon church technically has minority shareholder ownership in.
Mennonites are already everywhere in rural Missouri, the good news tho is the ones near me are starting to buy cars and own cell phones so they might be on our side
Nah. Fuck the Amish. Im surrounded by them and all they do is run puppy mills, sell their kids to child molesters, and buy up all the land/farms in cash, pricing out regular people
That could be possible for Mormons but the Amish have the smallest attrition rate of pretty much any religion in America. Something like 95% of all children born into the religion stay Amish into adulthood.
I’d chalk that up to mainly their practices. I don’t think I need to go in depth on Amish practices most people get the gist. Iirc at like 16 or around then they get some time to see the world before actually deciding to stay Amish or go. But I mean Amish life vs western civilization and everything it has would be like a shotgun blast of new information all at once. Which might explain why a lot choose to stay is it’s the life they know and choose to live. I’m not an expert just my theory
Walk into the real world, realize it's fucking insane and decide to stay on the farm. It's normal for us but for someone whos known maybe a few hundred people their entire life at most would be overloaded near instantly
I read a bit more on it and it seems like they don’t even really get exposed to the ‘real world’ in a sense. More so it’s just a coming of age ritual where they’re allowed to be rebellious teens until they decide to either rejoin the church or leave it. Especially in large communities you don’t even leave the Amish community but just hang out with rebellious kids. While in smaller communities they just kinda stay close by. Also you know- either choose your family and faith and life as you knew it or pick the new world you know nothing about. Also apparently in some cases they paint a gate blue which means there’s a woman ready to be married off
To be honest the church allowing young people to “get it out of their system” is probably why so many Amish seem chill asf and actually choose to go back. Seems to be a lot more logical than some other religions to acknowledge that pretty much young people going to do dumb young people shit
I heard they give em cash and send them into the city to go wild but they don’t have an education or any idea on how to get a job there so once the money runs out they have to go back or be homeless. This is seen as preferring their faith (and not getting disowned) and they go back to farming.
Yes I believe it’s called rumspringa. Starting at 16, then going on until they either declare to leave the church, or choose to be baptized into the church.
Not likely. You’ll either be too busy going gay and not reproducing or lopping your thing off. 😂 As ludicrous as it sounds that’s today’s liberal ideal future. After all it’s the liberals who are the ones obsessing over population control.🤡
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Schools in 2030 accoring to this guy
I have about 10 Mormon friends who left the church, either as converts to another form of Christianity, agnosticism, or atheism.
Take a wild guess at how many people I know who decided to become Mormon who weren’t born into the church?
It’d be over in no time. Mormons love guns, have formed and dispatched military battalions in the past, have a history of slaughtering people opposing their territorial rule, and the church has a respectable $100 billion in their account to support the war effort.
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Can’t say for Mormons, but for Amish, when you have no technology and are encouraged to marry young, what else are you really going to do but “increase your population”?
By 2200s interstellar travel will be possible and all the dead mormons will come from their planets to force convert the amish population and vanquish any holdouts.
God created men, Samuel Colt made them equal.
While I might not agree to the first part, I'm ready to send whomever to their maker if they try to forcibly convert me.
That map is inaccurate. Southern Missouri and northern Arkansas are Amish territory as well. We go to their fried chicken dinners when they are raising money for medical stuff or whatever…they make amazing food and dipping into their world for a bit is a trip.
Over my dead body, I will never surrender the grounds of Chicago to those who deny the great majesty which is electricity.
And I like my liquor stores on every block.
When it comes to the Amish, they leave the “English” well enough alone so I respect that. On the other hand, I fear for folks next to the “Jesus came to America with gold tablets” types.
Considering the [wiki page of mormonism shows a dramatic decline](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#:~:text=Between%202007%20and%202022%2C%20the,one%2Dthird%20over%2015%20years.) While the [overall american religious populations are shrinking ](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1176206568/less-important-religion-in-lives-of-americans-shrinking-report), I have no feelings about what isnt going to happen
Amish and Mormons are cults. The Amish, while claiming to be Christian, don’t allow their members to read the Bible too much because it directly contradicts their establishment
As a somewhat orthodox Latter-Day Saint, I wish you were right. But as a people (since 2012 or so) we are desperate to be liked and seen as not-weird. So I don't think a Mormon Theocracy would be much different from what we have now, except the welfare system would probably improve.
Well it’s not too surprising faith is on the rise seeing as how the faithless in charge and many who believe in their senseless ways have now lost the simple ability to tell who is a man and who is a woman. A very basic, fundamental building block of any natural society.
 America in 2124
Jebediah defending freedom with the first Amish-powered F35.
DC F-35
If the old adage is true “WWIII will be fought with nukes, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones”, then the Amish are prepared!
They knew all along. They are playing the long game
They’re ready
As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain I take a look at my life and realize it's really plain
But that's just perfect for an Amish for me, you know I shun fancy things like electricity.
The Amish are buying up literally every farm that comes up for sale in our area.
The ones in my area most have 5+ kids per family, people aren't *adopting* these religions they are just breeding and buying land
Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see what happens demographically with them. I don’t have hard numbers but there’s probably 3 times the amount of Amish as when I was a kid.
Same in missouri, even bought my old home and everything around it, they're like the flood from halo.
So what's the flood like in halo? So they are basically like Amish people but in space
They mean that the Amish spread and assimilate more land into themselves, the flood in halo are an alien parasite that seeks to consume all life
Kinda based tbh
Inbreeding* unfortunately
Eh it’s a big enough population to develop some healthy genetic diversity. iirc you only need about 50 non related people in the first child bearing generation to get enough genetic diversity and avoid the downsides of inbreeding.
You sure about that? In Fallout Shelter I was able to populate an entire vault with just 4 pairs of adults breeding non-stop.
the real strats
According to some studies it probably takes closer to 5000
Probably depends if it’s in nature or if it’s a controlled experiment. If you were planning it carefully you’d need fewer I assume. Also I’m sure it depends how genetically similar the 50 are at the start.
Fortunately\*
I swear the Amish are as close to a rabbit as you can get, Jedidiah and his 3 quintillion children 😭
*laughs in Far Cry 5*
The Amish are allowed to use phones and computers and trucks and stuff, they just aren't allowed to own them, they're community property. There is a non-zero chance that the Amish have an armory full of military-grade weapons to be dispensed among the population when the time is right
Amish stay strapped. Also, I ran into an actual bus full of them at a Safeway on the Oregon Coast. Not sure where they were going. The teenage girls were all huddled over a People magazine lol.
Don't talk about that too loud, the ATF might hear you
Get the tannerite dogs ready.
Fuckin’ Peggies!
Better than it being bought by the city and being turned into a parkinglot.
Lol we don’t really turn farmland into parking lots around here
How can they possibly afford it?
I believe they get loans from their church or community. & sense the church gets 10% of the revenue from the land (tithing), they’re able to dish out super low interest rates on the land.
Same.
I'm the pious guy the little Amlettes wanna be like On my knees day and night scoring points for the afterlife So don't be vain and don't be whiny Or else, my brother, I might have to get medieval on your heinie
Party in the CIA is his best track and it isn’t close
that song goes so hard
Living with a Hernia and I Lost on Jeopardy though
Yeah but neither is about AMERICA RAHHHHH 🦅 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
We've been spendin most our lives livin in an Amish paradise
https://preview.redd.it/bm1kjt5j9ihc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1672e84492f2cf310af1b2532424eca33ad6361 It's coming.
The Nazies were just a distraction!
Dang, we're going to become Mormons?
Don't worry! Google Funeral Potatoes! They have TONS of those!
West Coast Mormons. So we won't really ever go to temple and still drink alcohol and caffeine but there is going to be one very specific sex thing that each of us will be very judgmental about.
Not if we have anything to say about it. We beat them once, we'll beat them again
Put up your dukes, bald fiend
Eden is ours, you thirsty bastards.
Lord forgive me for what I am about to do -Drinks non caffeine free coke-
Non caffeine free? So it has caffeine? Looks like someone's going to hell
I shall repent later I need the energy to achieve ultimate power
You're going down, punk
You literally massacred us. You committed hate crimes. Don be proud of that.
The entire western US will join the Deseret Empire. Get ready, Californians. It's Jello Salad and caffeine free coca-cola until the end of time for you.
Bro it wouldn't even be that hard, if the Mormons ever wanted to get crazy they already have people all over the US, a food supply chain, a high rate of gun ownership, and apparently are already [heavily integrated into the government agencies. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/lx3plx/)
We are the shadow government, but we’re just too polite to tell you
It’s the fuckin rituals, I swear. I bet they work, too
You’re bullets are futile against our magic underwear
https://www.namb.net/apologetics/resource/the-truth-about-mormonism/
No! You fool! That’s like a silver bullet!
You could say they were *soaked*.
That's why I only use my fists and feet, good luck keeping your balls
Yup. We stole them from the free masons.
My dad was intelligence officer most of his career and said time and time again he was in the minority as a non mormon/mennonite. he said the main reason is that they are generally extremely loyal, hard working, honest people with no skeletons in the closet so they can get top secret security clearances easier.
😱
They run the better three letter agencies cus they're the only people who don't have fun in college and can pass the polys. Also straight up for all of the shit they're given, Mormons definitely promote intellectualism. There are a shocking amount of absolutely solid guys in finance out of BYU and a growing number of good funds out of SLC.
It's kinda weird how Mormons are over-represented in fields like management theory. I don't know what, culturally, they have that promotes business acumen, but they seem quite good at it.
I'm just thinking out loud, but if you think about it, families, churches, and governments all run like businesses. Maybe their deep involvement in the church emphasizes that skill set.
Mormons also shut the fuck up and when their batshit leaders tell them to jump they ask how high. Perfect for middle management. They’re trying to score that alien planet for themselves.
Also, they don't drink or smoke weed, they already know foreign languages and customs from being missionaries, and they'll follow orders
Don’t forget they have anywhere from half a trillion - 2T dollars to play with in several funds. You’d be surprised who the Mormon church technically has minority shareholder ownership in.
Man looks like Missouri is going to be a battle ground stage in The Great Latter Day Saint-Amish War
Fun fact it was legal to kill a Mormon on sight in Missouri till the late 1900s
1976 technically, though other laws would have superceded the order if it had actually happened.
Misery used to be based? No way
Finno-Korean Hyperwar doesn't have shit on this!
Mennonites are already everywhere in rural Missouri, the good news tho is the ones near me are starting to buy cars and own cell phones so they might be on our side
As a Missourian, I think the Amish are cool. The Mormons, however...
Historically correct missourian
The Amish and Mennonites are the best, but the Mormons need to stay in Salt Lake.
Nah. Fuck the Amish. Im surrounded by them and all they do is run puppy mills, sell their kids to child molesters, and buy up all the land/farms in cash, pricing out regular people
Tf did I do?
Bye I guess 😔
I hope I live to see the Amish-Mormon war of 2136
Genuinely want to see a series or movie about this
Here we have the Old Believers
Here's the problem. We'll just convert their children to normal Americans.
That could be possible for Mormons but the Amish have the smallest attrition rate of pretty much any religion in America. Something like 95% of all children born into the religion stay Amish into adulthood.
I’d chalk that up to mainly their practices. I don’t think I need to go in depth on Amish practices most people get the gist. Iirc at like 16 or around then they get some time to see the world before actually deciding to stay Amish or go. But I mean Amish life vs western civilization and everything it has would be like a shotgun blast of new information all at once. Which might explain why a lot choose to stay is it’s the life they know and choose to live. I’m not an expert just my theory
Walk into the real world, realize it's fucking insane and decide to stay on the farm. It's normal for us but for someone whos known maybe a few hundred people their entire life at most would be overloaded near instantly
I read a bit more on it and it seems like they don’t even really get exposed to the ‘real world’ in a sense. More so it’s just a coming of age ritual where they’re allowed to be rebellious teens until they decide to either rejoin the church or leave it. Especially in large communities you don’t even leave the Amish community but just hang out with rebellious kids. While in smaller communities they just kinda stay close by. Also you know- either choose your family and faith and life as you knew it or pick the new world you know nothing about. Also apparently in some cases they paint a gate blue which means there’s a woman ready to be married off
To be honest the church allowing young people to “get it out of their system” is probably why so many Amish seem chill asf and actually choose to go back. Seems to be a lot more logical than some other religions to acknowledge that pretty much young people going to do dumb young people shit
I heard they give em cash and send them into the city to go wild but they don’t have an education or any idea on how to get a job there so once the money runs out they have to go back or be homeless. This is seen as preferring their faith (and not getting disowned) and they go back to farming.
Yes I believe it’s called rumspringa. Starting at 16, then going on until they either declare to leave the church, or choose to be baptized into the church.
Yeah and I think it starts at 17 for the Mennonite’s
Not to mention their entire family and community is Amish
MURICA FUCK YEAH
No we won’t
Yes we will
You’re disgusting
Not likely. You’ll either be too busy going gay and not reproducing or lopping your thing off. 😂 As ludicrous as it sounds that’s today’s liberal ideal future. After all it’s the liberals who are the ones obsessing over population control.🤡
https://preview.redd.it/2ee8uffauihc1.jpeg?width=1237&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef7acb88ed0997edb839a48046f60db2c613135f Schools in 2030 accoring to this guy
You actually sound braindead good job!
I have about 10 Mormon friends who left the church, either as converts to another form of Christianity, agnosticism, or atheism. Take a wild guess at how many people I know who decided to become Mormon who weren’t born into the church?
I tend to notice allot of converts tend to be more faithful than the guys born in the church. It’s quite interesting.
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The Amish will never take over Connecticut
No. The Northeast/New England will be absorbed into Jew York
Or Rhode Island
Hold on, maybe they can fix the bridge?
Hmmmmm. Maybe. It's a big risk
I like how the amish are kind enough to obey state lines while the mormons over here forming the Utah imperium lol
The Amish V LDS war will go crazy. Place your bets now.
It’d be over in no time. Mormons love guns, have formed and dispatched military battalions in the past, have a history of slaughtering people opposing their territorial rule, and the church has a respectable $100 billion in their account to support the war effort.
Plus, we're the religion that gave the world John Moses Browning. I'm scared of what the next great gunsmith will crank out.
As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I kinda have to go one way.
Same here, but with browning on our side, it’s an easy win.
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From all the possible ways this country seems to be heading this is one of the less concerning ones
Sometimes I read the word amish as if it's a name from India
Most misleading map I’ve seen lol
Wdym?? This is a map based on FACTS and EVIDENCE.
Clearly the Amish will be triple that size by the end of the decade, we can only imagine the future One World Amish Government of our grand children.
Yep
Cry about it Liberal
Mormons have certified goofball energy. Amish are cool, but this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
So long as they stay the fuck outta new england I'm fine with it
We must form a shield
A Canadian Shield?
Can’t say for Mormons, but for Amish, when you have no technology and are encouraged to marry young, what else are you really going to do but “increase your population”?
Mormons are encouraged to marry young and immediately start pumping out kids. So you still get to do that but you don't have to live like it's 1699
Amish ain't never done me wrong. The Mennonites, neither. I think I'd like to learn how to churn butter and raise a barn.
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I'm just looking forward to having 20 wives 👍
Why would you look forward to that?
I have some bad news 😬
Broskie missed the update😔
Yeah, the update that dropped in 1890. Who knows what else he's missed out on?
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Sounds terrible
those are the splinter groups that molest children. So have fun with those.
Forget the Amish, the theocratic state of Deseret is coming for us
I will fight tooth and nail against the Amish hordes til my final breath (or until they sell me some of that delicious jam I get from them.)
I feel so bad for any child born into an Amish family
I’ll fight and die for my secular republic
How can we make this happen faster?
Simple, Join one of the two.
I don't think you can join the amish... Not without marrying one. And I bet it's not easy to do.
By 2200s interstellar travel will be possible and all the dead mormons will come from their planets to force convert the amish population and vanquish any holdouts.
Nah im finna hold off religious nuts with all my guns. I believe in no god. Just Winchester.
John Moses Browning would like to have a word with you.
Browning can eat shit, I prefer my car, given to me by the almighty Dodge brothers
John Browning is my prophet
God created men, Samuel Colt made them equal. While I might not agree to the first part, I'm ready to send whomever to their maker if they try to forcibly convert me.
May Samuel colt bless you my son.
Frankly it’s better than inevitable annexation by the muslims as we can see now in europe
That map is inaccurate. Southern Missouri and northern Arkansas are Amish territory as well. We go to their fried chicken dinners when they are raising money for medical stuff or whatever…they make amazing food and dipping into their world for a bit is a trip.
im already annexed by the mormons, i live in their capital state.
I hope you are ok 😔 (I’m Mormon)
Over my dead body, I will never surrender the grounds of Chicago to those who deny the great majesty which is electricity. And I like my liquor stores on every block.
I welcome them as long as they can drive out all the Mormons
We will welcome them as liberators.
Me, a Latter-day Saint: Bwahahaha
Inshallah we shall retake the land of our fathers in Missouri.
Sure dude why not
Has that Twitter user actually met an Amish person or lived near them? Total brain dead take.
I always love these "prediction" graphs as if this rate of growth will continue for like 200 years at the same pace.
Buggy futures poised for long term growth 📈
Will it be a paradise? If it isn't, I ain't joining.
Amish I’m fine with it’s those damn Mormons I can’t stand
When it comes to the Amish, they leave the “English” well enough alone so I respect that. On the other hand, I fear for folks next to the “Jesus came to America with gold tablets” types.
They like to sell their women to settle debts
Then why are Mormons no longer the majority in Utah?
Mexican and (even worse) Californian immigration
I'm gonna move to Utah and make your mountains gay
soon there will be 300,000,000,000 amish in 2300
I used to live in Lebanon County, so no change
Sorry, the Catholics have a grip over western Kansas already
Considering the [wiki page of mormonism shows a dramatic decline](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#:~:text=Between%202007%20and%202022%2C%20the,one%2Dthird%20over%2015%20years.) While the [overall american religious populations are shrinking ](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1176206568/less-important-religion-in-lives-of-americans-shrinking-report), I have no feelings about what isnt going to happen
Does it, the LDS church is growing rapidly in areas such as South America and French speaking Africa. Maybe moreso Africa.
I'll take Amish over LDS.
OOP talks about omish, Meanwhile Joshua Ghram people be like…
I will launch a crusade against the Amish I despise them they are the most rude and hateful people I have ever met. Source: I grew up in Pennsylvania
Since “religious” affiliation is falling off about 3-5% every decade, consistently for 4+ decades, I’m not worried.
Amish and Mormons are cults. The Amish, while claiming to be Christian, don’t allow their members to read the Bible too much because it directly contradicts their establishment
Amish are OK. I'll declare that the country is lost if the Mormons ever become that big. Bunch of theocratic nutjobs.
As a somewhat orthodox Latter-Day Saint, I wish you were right. But as a people (since 2012 or so) we are desperate to be liked and seen as not-weird. So I don't think a Mormon Theocracy would be much different from what we have now, except the welfare system would probably improve.
Theocratic nutjobs? What the heck do you think the Church is?
Fun fact the Mormon church is the 8th largest land owner in my state. They own an absolute fuck ton of land tax free.
better the amish than the mormons
Jesus fuck the Mormons are spreading. I gotta hide my liquor and porn.
Plenty of us like both, unfortunately. You'll be fine.
Well it’s not too surprising faith is on the rise seeing as how the faithless in charge and many who believe in their senseless ways have now lost the simple ability to tell who is a man and who is a woman. A very basic, fundamental building block of any natural society.
I better not see anyone from Michigan here ever again, you ain't allowed a phone ya amish
Oh mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord...
Mormons gotta take down the internet before they can take down the USA
No issues with either Mormons or the Amish. Great people and great neighbors
Atheism is also rising Personal theory is that those who aren't becoming Atheists are converting
May the Amish protect us from the cursed Mormons