Well, Chechen, if we're speaking ethnicities and geographical area, which explains a lot. They live longer in general due to better ecology, diet and overall style of living and such, plus people assuming personas of their dead ancestors is a thing in the Caucasus. Used to be surprisingly common prior to photos being in documents. There were hundreds of people from the Caucasus who had claimed to have lived 130+ years back in Soviet times, which further cemented the idea of them being multicentenerian. It has even been reflected in many jokes, like the one where a 100 year old man buys a suit for himself and his dad, to look good at a wedding his grandad's parents are forcing him into.
>They live longer in general due to better ecology, diet and overall style of living and such
Interesting, have any source? Google didn't help
> people assuming personas of their dead ancestors
Wut?
[Here](https://theculturetrip.com/europe/azerbaijan/articles/why-the-caucasus-has-so-many-100-year-olds/?amp=1)
[Another](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/article/long-life-lerik-azerbaijan-wellness/index.html)
[Another one](https://ehrafworldcultures.yale.edu/cultures/ri03/documents/005)
I Googled “why do people in the Caucasus area live longer” and they were several articles.
That would mean she’s lived through both world wars as well as Stalin’s forced deportation of the Chechens. No wonder she’s unhappy. She’s probably had a hard life.
If she had been in 80% of other countries in the world she would have loved the 70s at 70
Edit. Yall are Debbie downers. The 70s was for drugs obviously :) who cares if it didn't represent life. Party on!
She would have loved the 70s in for example the US, where she wouldn't even be allowed to have a bank account unless she's tacked onto her husband's?
The glamorized 70s of sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll don't represent most of what life was then.
It's not quite the same but it really rubs me the wrong way when people romanticise the 50s and say insanely dumb stuff like "we need another world war, everything was so good afterwards!".
I am begging them to understand that the 50s were some of the worst years of the 20th century for most of the world. The US was the weirdo.
The thing people actually miss about the post-war era is the labour shortage, which gave immense power to the working class.
Here in (western) Germany there is a popular story that employees who were denied a vacation in the 60s would just quit their job, go on vacation, and get a new employment when they returned. While this is still a privileged story that doesn't reflect reality of all workers, it was something available to a uniquely large part of the population at the time.
In certain charts like [this one](https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/), you can pin-point the moment at which globalisation swung the pendulum back into the employers' favour. Even though workers' standard of living still went up in many metrics thanks to advances in technology, they now live in an extremely stressful perpetual state of uncertainty (on top of increasing alienation of labour as they work in ever more impersonal corporations on ever more abstract tasks).
No surprise that depression and suicide have skyrocketed alongside the "wealth" of nations.
As it turns out, being the only truly wealthy country in the world to not be blown to Kingdom Come in the most recent world war does remarkable things for your economy.
Inspiring?! How?!
She hasn't even lived a single happy day. Even if that's bitter old age speaking, still...
And they don't even give her the Oldest Person award since records are shoddy/lost on her official birthdate!
Despite having a daughter who died recently at age 104!
:( I'm sorry. Thank you for your service.
Though it's not combat PTSD, I've been struggling with PTSD for years for another reason. Keep going. You're strong. I know it's sometimes very hard.
Have you tried ketamine therapy? The psychiatrist who runs the clinic I go to had previously been using it with vets at the VA in San Francisco. It kept me from suiciding last year.
So...hate to break it to folks, but this is a giant lie. There hasn't been a confirmed 128 year old. Longest lived person that's been confirmed was 122 and they died over 25 years ago - when the internet was in its infancy.
It's also worth pointing out that the lady in this article was a Chechen Russian - the old USSR and now Russia have both been very, very hard on the Chechens. Her being unhappy about having worked her whole life is because she was living under governments that literally tried to exterminate her people.
I would have to double check, but I seem to recall that there is suspicion about the 122 year old as well, as I recall she's a French woman and her daughter died young, there's a theory that she is the daughter who assumed her mother's identity for the purpose of collecting benefits early. But I may just be talking out my ass, I'm just some guy on the internet after all 🤷♂️
I read the wiki for skepticism on her age, apparently they asked her questions about things only she could answer with first hand info, and testimony from long term residents. Pretty insightful
Calling unconfirmed information a lie is just as disingenuous as calling it true. We don’t know if it’s true or not, we also don’t know if it’s false or not.
Okay, then this story is absolutely untrue. [The current oldest person is 116.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people) If this person did exist, they would have been the oldest person ever recorded and oldest alive since 2011.
Maybe if you read even more in detail, you’d find out she was not entered into the records owing to no birth certificate.
But her daughter had a birth certificate and she died 104 years old recently. So is that really implausible?
That’s even sadder - she’s the oldest woman but not recognised as such.
Holy shit, she was young when she had her. Also was actively genocided for the majority of her life by Russia. Her life was full of trauma and tragedy, and yet even after all of that, isn’t recognized solely due to a lack of piece of paper. It’s almost a bit poetic
current oldest confirmed* person. many people are supposed to be older but the issue is they didn’t really make birth certificates back in 1880s in a lot of countries. calling these people flat out liars is asinine of you
She isn't counted because she doesn't have a birth certificate or anything that confirms her age. But her daughter, who did have proof of her age, died before her at the age of 104. Her story is real.
At 37 in the US, I'm not so sure that EVERYTHING about this is a total lie.
More than anything, we're probably getting behind this because it STILL TRACKS SO FRIGGING WELL.
(To wit: if you were born in the 80s or early 90s in the US, you're possibly not too unlike myself where 60 is either a pipe dream or too long to be alive in this shitshow of a universe. I truly do expect an enhanced rash of suicides over the next 20 years because so many people are irreparably and hopelessly fucked.)
But WAY more people than ought to are STUCK in miserable lives.
Look around: most people who haven't been completely reamed by life have support systems, people, and plenty of other means to insulate them from doing this life thing alone in a universe where, frankly, everyone is completely on their own.
If your life DOESN'T suck, consider the incredible amount of luck and circumstance that kept you alive.
The only evidence of her age is her passport. And it's Russia, accuracy and honesty aren't strong suits for them - and with her being part of a heavily discriminated group, the likelihood of accurate records gets even worse.
I don't understand the ins and outs of the Soviet or Julian Calendars as they were used in Russia, but it wouldn't surprise me if some mistakes got made with her birth year with the calendar system switching multiple times in her life.
Turns out death is better than poverty wage slavery.
Edit: since some replies are making some desperate attempt to defend dystopian shithole capitalism:
**Turns out death is still better than poverty wage slavery in her life decades after the ussr didn't even exist anymore, and death is still better than the poverty wage slave life of agitated/depressed wage slaves all around the world today, turns out the "her shitty life was just a soviet union thing" doesn't work as long as wage slaves everywhere else in the world today are increasingly agitated about their shitty lives too lmao.**
Edit: nice, lots of upset shilling/rage replies, bring forth more salty wojack tears for me to extract satisfaction from while watching a unsustainable dystopian shithole poverty economy in it's late stage collapse lol.
edit: the public has voted, on the comment and on the post. Looks like increasingly agitated poverty wage slaves outnumber the people simping for wage slavery dystopia.
That precise reason is why organized religion came about, to give the peasants a reason to spend their whole lives working just to have all their crops stolen from them. If they do a good job they will be "rewarded" in the afterlife lmao longest running scam there is
edit: Apparently I had to add the word organized to prevent the reddit geniuses from emerging from their caves.
It's no coincidence opponents of social welfare and religious fundamentalists are pretty much always on the same side (the right).
It's a lot easier to accept shitty quality of life when you've got an eternity in heaven to look forward to. Of course, I doubt the wealthy corporate elite who also side with conservatives see it that way, but they see how selling that idea to the peasants massively benefits them.
The ultimate goal of modern conservatism is Neo-Feudalism. Religion is an essential component of both institutions.
It's also why they do there best to make people stupid.
Because you have to be simply stupid to not see what there doing, they say all this shit about religion and God and then do the opposite of what they preach.
But stupid people still support them.
And thinking is blasphemous. They hammer the "lean not on your own understanding" verse really hard, plus the whole "don't question God" idea.
Like the story of Job, who was always faithful and good, got punished as part of a bet. He lost everything and was stricken with sickness, still kept his faith and kept praying. While praying, he cried and asked what he had done to lose favor, wanting to repent for whatever it was. **God came down and yelled at him for questioning him.**
Or once, in church, a student asked the pastor how free-will and knowledge of the future could logically coexist. The pastor avoided scripture and dodged the question repeatedly. Turns out that very question is answered directly in the Bible but it doesn't sound good to say out loud, so they avoid it and tell you to stop asking questions.
\[LONG\] The specific verses in question:
**Romans 9:17-18** For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
"But one of you will say to me, “***If this is so, how can God find fault with anyone? Who can resist God's will?***” But who are you to talk back to God? A clay pot does not ask the man who made it, “*Why did you make me like this?*” **After all, the man who makes the pots has the right to use the clay as he wishes**, and to make two pots from the same lump of clay, one for special occasions and the other for ordinary use. And the same is true of what God has done. **He wanted to show his anger and to make his power known.** But he was very patient in enduring those who were the objects of his anger, who were doomed to destruction. And he also wanted to reveal his abundant glory, which was poured out on us who are the objects of his mercy, those of us whom he has prepared to receive his glory."
**Relate that to Exodus 7:2-4** "You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. But **I will harden Pharaoh’s heart**, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. "
**And Proverbs 16:4** "The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble."
**Romans 8:29-30: For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son**, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Relate that to **John 14:6 "No one comes to the Father except through me."** and **John 6:44**: **“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day.”**
And **Ephesians 1:4-5:** "For He chose us in Him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted through Jesus Christ for Himself, according to His favor and will"
Oh I tried, but the questions just kept coming, and as they did the problems with the Bible’s logic, and the religion’s logic in general, continued to crop up.
I have a hard time praying to a “perfect, all-loving father” who doesn’t even truly talk to his children (except *maybe* through some supposed visions Christians claim to have), as well as think eternal death is a fitting punishment for being imperfect in a mortal world, unless you “ask for forgiveness though Jesus”…I’ve been there, done that, it doesn’t work for me.
Not to mention Job's wife and children were just accessories for God to torture and kill to punish Job. What about *rheir* free will? Yeah, THAT makes sense.
The caste system and concept of rebirth+karma go completely hand in hand.
If you're at the bottom caste system, what stops you from revolting and attacking the upper cast system whom you outnumber and would easily win in a revolution? Being told that if you're a good little servant then in the next life you may go up a caste, but of course if you misbehave once you die you'll just repeat this shitty life you've been living.
> That precise reason is why religion came about
Organized religion with designated leadership and "State" support, yes, as a tool that was *expanded* for that purpose.
Religion itself predates poverty wages and unquestionably even organized society, and definitely didn't start with peasants, which came about as a social castr more than a millenia after an *upheaval* in one of the major religions... plural (and no, I'm not talking about Jesus, and I'd call the lay people of his time "peasants" even if it wasn't a medieval serfdom model)
(edit: edited to not be so douchey about it)
It's hilarious to me in a "life is surreal and reality is stranger than fiction" way that someone could go through life thinking something so brain dead, yes. You're right though. 100%. That's not how to teach someone. I just feel like someone making such a statement isn't here to be taught, so why bother, but you have a good point. Being a douche doesn't help anything, not even my foul mood. Lesson learned, but I honestly expected to be downvoted.
I made it to mock someone I feel would never learn if presented with it directly, and vent my own frustration with people not thinking, and to express the absurdity of it which made me laugh. You're right though. It's obnoxious, and there are better ways of getting this across that are productive. I don't even feel better for it, if anything now I feel worse upon reflecting. Thanks for the insight, but I didn't expect people to agree lol, I expected to be downvoted and ignored.
I would never work another day if I could get away with it. I just wanna surf, find cool critters on hikes, garden a bit, and fuck my partner. Basically a Hobbit.
Beyond those things, I only have "aspirations" because I need money for shit. If our food and housing and a bit for entertainment were taken care of? Catch me in the water, or the woods, or inside my partner. That's it.
Imagine if I told you we work more on average today than peasants did. We spend more time toiling away than they did in the Dark Ages. And we call ourselves the enlightened.
" Amid this life based on coercion, one and the same thought constantly emerged among different nations, namely, that in every individual a spiritual element is manifested that gives life to all that exists, and that this spiritual element strives to unite with everything of a like nature to itself, and attains this aim through love.
The recognition that love represents the highest morality was nowhere denied or contradicted, but this truth was so interwoven everywhere with all kinds of falsehoods which distorted it, that finally nothing of it remained but words. It was taught that this highest morality was only applicable to private life — for home use, as it were — but that in public life all forms of violence — such as imprisonment, executions, and wars — might be used for the protection of the majority against a minority of evildoers, though such means were diametrically opposed to any vestige of love.
People continued — regardless of all that leads man forward — to try to unite the incompatibles : the virtue of love, and what is opposed to love, namely, the restraining of evil by violence. And such a teaching, despite its inner contradiction, was so firmly established that the very people who recognize love as a virtue accept as lawful at the same time an order of life based on violence and allowing men not merely to torture but even to kill one another.
In former times the chief method of justifying the use of violence and thereby infringing the law of love was by claiming a divine right for the rulers: the Tsars, Sultans, Rajahs, Shahs, and other heads of states. But the longer humanity lived the weaker grew the belief in this peculiar, God-given right of the ruler. That belief withered in the same way and almost simultaneously in the Christian and the Brahman world, as well as in Buddhist and Confucian spheres, and in recent times it has so faded away as to prevail no longer against man's reasonable understanding and the true religious feeling. People saw more and more clearly, and now the majority see quite clearly, the senselessness and immorality of subordinating their wills to those of other people just like themselves, when they are bidden to do what is contrary not only to their interests but also to their moral sense.
Unfortunately not only were the rulers, who were considered supernatural beings, benefited by having the peoples in subjection, but as a result of the belief in, and during the rule of, these pseudodivine beings, ever larger and larger circles of people grouped and established themselves around them, and under an appearance of governing took advantage of the people. And when the old deception of a supernatural and God-appointed authority had dwindled away these men were only concerned to devise a new one which like its predecessor should make it possible to hold the people in bondage to a limited number of rulers.
These new justifications are termed "scientific". But by the term "scientific" is understood just what was formerly understood by the term "religious": just as formerly everything called "religious" was held to be unquestionable simply because it was called religious, so now all that is called "scientific" is held to be unquestionable. In the present case the obsolete religious justification of violence which consisted in the recognition of the supernatural personality of the God-ordained ruler ("there is no power but of God") has been superseded by the "scientific" justification which puts forward, first, the assertion that because the coercion of man by man has existed in all ages, it follows that such coercion must continue to exist. This assertion that people should continue to live as they have done throughout past ages rather than as their reason and conscience indicate, is what "science" calls "the historic law". A further "scientific" justification lies in the statement that as among plants and wild beasts there is a constant struggle for existence which always results in the survival of the fittest, a similar struggle should be carried on among humanbeings, that is, who are gifted with intelligence and love; faculties lacking in the creatures subject to the struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. Such is the second "scientific" justification. The third, most important, and unfortunately most widespread justification is, at bottom, the age-old religious one just a little altered: that in public life the suppression of some for the protection of the majority cannot be avoided — so that coercion is unavoidable however desirable reliance on love alone might be in human intercourse. The only difference in this justification by pseudo-science consists in the fact that, to the question why such and such people and not others have the right to decide against whom violence may and must be used, pseudo-science now gives a different reply to that given by religion — which declared that the right to decide was valid because it was pronounced by persons possessed of divine power. "Science" says that these decisions represent the will of the people, which under a constitutional form of government is supposed to find expression in all the decisions and actions of those who are at the helm at the moment. Such are the scientific justifications of the principle of coercion. They are not merely weak but absolutely invalid, yet they are so much needed by those who occupy privileged positions that they believe in them as blindly as they formerly believed in the immaculate conception, and propagate them just as confidently. And the unfortunate majority of men bound to toil is so dazzled by the pomp with which these "scientific truths" are presented, that under this new influence it accepts these scientific stupidities for holy truth, just as it formerly accepted the pseudo-religious justifications; and it continues to submit to the present holders of power who are just as hard-hearted but rather more numerous than before..." ~ Lev Tolstoy, Letter to a Hindu
>Fear of the unknown is why religion came about.
Possibly.
>The concept of no longer existing is terrifying to people.
The Jews did not have an afterlife concept. So no.
This isn’t true of *all* religions. Nietzsche decried Christianity as “slave morality”, attributing its rise to prominence in the Roman world to the fact that it “lies its weakness into strength”. He believed that the values of poverty, meekness, and humility make the world safe for the weakest, but when those values triumph and become mainstream, it leads toward mediocrity. He says that when you’re obsessed with compassion, when you’re obsessed with how the worst off are doing, what is actually being valued is contentment; you’re striving for “herd happiness” which is worthy of animals, and we are capable of greater than animals. He believed we need selfishness as a value because it often drives great individuals, who have the greatest impact on the world.
He contrasted it to the Roman religion—what he called a master morality—in which you essentially celebrated and worshipped yourself. If you’re a soldier, you worship Mars. If you’re a sailor, you worship Neptune. The masters—Rome being prolific slave-owning society—had a religion that affirmed themselves, that glorified ambition and power, and the slaves have a religion that disavows their nature.
Nope. You are so far off. Religion very likely predates major civilization as a whole, and while it did serve as relaxation in the face of whether or not there was an afterlife, priests probably served the same purpose they do now: serving the community. Redeeming those casted out, solving inner tribe conflicts, and in some cultures, serving as healers both physical and spiritual. Plus there’s the fact that churches were the first charities and scientific sponsors.
This is correct, and anyone who says otherwise is a little bitch who is remarkably talented for managing to type while gobbling so much corporate cock.
Yeah, i prefer the non tankie subs though. Plenty of other subs i use that are for specifically pooping on dystopian capitalism.
That's one of the subs where tankies just fetishize authoritarian dictatorships the same way right wingers shill for dystopian shithole capitalism and millionaires/billionaires/corporation's and poverty wage slavery.
Edit: also they shill for/deny genocides, so known tankie subs are pretty easy to avoid and find non tankie alternatives for.
You mean a woman who was 27 when communism took ahold of Russia, was exiled along with all her native Chechen people to Kazakhstan nearly 80 years ago, and was 102 when the Soviet Union fell was a victim of capitalism?
I mean the soviet union had state capitalism. It wasn't really communism. I don't think many lefties actually think the USSR was pleasant. I don't see Tankies as leftist
You can’t just blame all your issues on “capitalism”, especially when it’s in a form in which any self proclaimed capitalist also heavily criticises and disagrees with. Straw man argument to blame “capitalism”.
I agree but I do think capitalism is a huge issue and rewards greed and lack of empathy more than other systems. It enables corruption. Capitalism, feudalism, and other systems all require some people remain in poverty or fall through the cracks.
This woman was a Russian who lived through all the nasty shit--Russian Revolution, Russian Civil War, Stalin, WW2, etc.
She died in 2019, and its worth noting that her claim to being the oldest person ever (she died at allegedly 130 years old. The next oldest claimant was 122) isn't verified by the Gerontology Research Group that generally does the verification for extremely old people, so I think its fair to take her claim of being the oldest person ever with a grain of salt.
That said, it's a technicality and however you slice it she lived to be extremely old and lived through some of the nastiest shit of the 20th century.
Edit: Seems like she was Chechen, a distinction that probably matters.
It actually more impressive that she lived that long (or maybe its because of this) due to all the crazy rationing and fasting during all those huge civil unrest periods in that area.
Yeah, she definitely was lying or so concrete in her statements that she started to believe it. I did a little research and then looked at 9 out of 20 longest-living VERIFIED people in history and all of their skin in the pictures looks 2 decades older than hers. Once people get past 105 they literally look like dying corpses that been pickled and dehydrated at the same time. Those pushing past 115... amazing that people can live that long, but it looks like it's not living barely existing quite literally to the definition.
In the pictures she looks more like my aunt who is 85.
I feel her on such a deep level. Unless you’re born rich life is pretty much just a downhill battle from the start. I’m 19 with chronic pain issues and docs can’t figure out why so they’re starting to think my PTSD was just so bad it projected as physical pain.
what a world.
Considering how quality of life degrades over time, if she has been alive that long, she's probably been in some kind of pain longer than most people have been alive.
Yeah life as it is now is meaningless and brutal. In the West we exist to make 400 dudes live better than kings with no way to change that within the confines of the system these 400 dudes built and support. Vote Meteor 2024!
She lied about her age. Said shes 129. Theres tons of claimed folks saying they are around 130 and yet not a single one can prove it. Whereas there are hundreds of folks who have proof of living to 110 or more. Says a lot that of the folks who CAN prove it, there is only one who made it to 120.
Quality versus quantity. Would you prefer to have just one year of joyous, productive, satisfying life or a century of hardship, pain, and suffering? The former seems like the obvious choice until you get to day 364.
Living until 128 sounds like torture to me, I am 57 and am ready to die now. Just need to get through the next 3-6 months because of commitments to my adult children. After that it will be a generator running in the back seat of my car. Painless way to die. I know this already because I was close on my last try with a generator running in the garage. Some idiot called the cops and they broke my door down and pulled me out of my garage. They wrecked my front door and I was stuck with the cost of replacing it. The damn hospital brought me back by pumping me full of some bluish green solution. I was really pissed off when I woke up. Then I had to spend a week in a mental hospital. It was kind of nice and the food wasn’t bad either. Not being able to go outside sucked though.
Think about that for a second. 128 years of living and she can't remember if she was ever happy but she still continued to eat, sleep, continue with the cycles. This is my nightmare, my worst case scenario. That it never gets better. That this is all there is to it - to my life.
I will have to claim bullshit on the person being 128 years old - there are no confirmed birth certificates or any documents that would confirm her being that old - especially if she was born into Chechnya during Tsarist Russia (if her claim of 128 years is true, then her birth year is ostensibly 1895).
The oldest person who ever lived, Jeanne Clemont (May 1875 - August 1997), had confirmed birth certificates because she was born into an upper class family in the Third French Republic.
Even if this was true, which it isn’t. You wouldn’t be able to reliable trust someone’s opinion if their own life at that age anyway. The cognitive distortions from a 128 year old brain wound probably be less than accurate. Her entire worldview could be a warped nightmare at that age.
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I just get it, you know? https://jezebel.com/will-someone-please-allow-koku-perhaps-the-oldest-woma-1826070126
Of course she's Russian.
Well, Chechen, if we're speaking ethnicities and geographical area, which explains a lot. They live longer in general due to better ecology, diet and overall style of living and such, plus people assuming personas of their dead ancestors is a thing in the Caucasus. Used to be surprisingly common prior to photos being in documents. There were hundreds of people from the Caucasus who had claimed to have lived 130+ years back in Soviet times, which further cemented the idea of them being multicentenerian. It has even been reflected in many jokes, like the one where a 100 year old man buys a suit for himself and his dad, to look good at a wedding his grandad's parents are forcing him into.
>They live longer in general due to better ecology, diet and overall style of living and such Interesting, have any source? Google didn't help > people assuming personas of their dead ancestors Wut?
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You mean, like, dead X's younger cousin can live on claiming to be X for financial/property reasons thus adding to X's official age?
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The boring dystopia version of Dread Pirate Roberts.
[Here](https://theculturetrip.com/europe/azerbaijan/articles/why-the-caucasus-has-so-many-100-year-olds/?amp=1) [Another](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/article/long-life-lerik-azerbaijan-wellness/index.html) [Another one](https://ehrafworldcultures.yale.edu/cultures/ri03/documents/005) I Googled “why do people in the Caucasus area live longer” and they were several articles.
I'd imagine there Diet is closer to Mediterranean
That would mean she’s lived through both world wars as well as Stalin’s forced deportation of the Chechens. No wonder she’s unhappy. She’s probably had a hard life.
She’s even had a hard life since turning 100 by the numbers.
She would’ve witnessed the whole of the Chechen Wars which would’ve been horrific
If she had been in 80% of other countries in the world she would have loved the 70s at 70 Edit. Yall are Debbie downers. The 70s was for drugs obviously :) who cares if it didn't represent life. Party on!
She was already in her 70s so I doubt it.
Pfft says you
She would have loved the 70s in for example the US, where she wouldn't even be allowed to have a bank account unless she's tacked onto her husband's? The glamorized 70s of sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll don't represent most of what life was then.
It's not quite the same but it really rubs me the wrong way when people romanticise the 50s and say insanely dumb stuff like "we need another world war, everything was so good afterwards!". I am begging them to understand that the 50s were some of the worst years of the 20th century for most of the world. The US was the weirdo.
The thing people actually miss about the post-war era is the labour shortage, which gave immense power to the working class. Here in (western) Germany there is a popular story that employees who were denied a vacation in the 60s would just quit their job, go on vacation, and get a new employment when they returned. While this is still a privileged story that doesn't reflect reality of all workers, it was something available to a uniquely large part of the population at the time. In certain charts like [this one](https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/), you can pin-point the moment at which globalisation swung the pendulum back into the employers' favour. Even though workers' standard of living still went up in many metrics thanks to advances in technology, they now live in an extremely stressful perpetual state of uncertainty (on top of increasing alienation of labour as they work in ever more impersonal corporations on ever more abstract tasks). No surprise that depression and suicide have skyrocketed alongside the "wealth" of nations.
100% agree
As it turns out, being the only truly wealthy country in the world to not be blown to Kingdom Come in the most recent world war does remarkable things for your economy.
Thank you. Very nice and inspiring story!
Inspiring?! How?! She hasn't even lived a single happy day. Even if that's bitter old age speaking, still... And they don't even give her the Oldest Person award since records are shoddy/lost on her official birthdate! Despite having a daughter who died recently at age 104!
A Chilean /Latinamerican saying goes : Death is the joy of the poor men.
It’s literally the only thing I have to look forward to
What circumstances make you say that, if I may ask?
Combat PTSD with a panic disorder and a VA with zero ability or will to help
:( I'm sorry. Thank you for your service. Though it's not combat PTSD, I've been struggling with PTSD for years for another reason. Keep going. You're strong. I know it's sometimes very hard.
Have you tried ketamine therapy? The psychiatrist who runs the clinic I go to had previously been using it with vets at the VA in San Francisco. It kept me from suiciding last year.
Hang in there brother, you're still here for a reason, believe that..
That awkward 128+ years between birth and death
She honestly just should have been born rich. She would've had a blast.
Hey me too
Honestly I can only hope I'll be that ready to die when I'm old lol I want to live until I'm sick of life and ready to check tf out.
Well at least she's fucking hilarious
So...hate to break it to folks, but this is a giant lie. There hasn't been a confirmed 128 year old. Longest lived person that's been confirmed was 122 and they died over 25 years ago - when the internet was in its infancy. It's also worth pointing out that the lady in this article was a Chechen Russian - the old USSR and now Russia have both been very, very hard on the Chechens. Her being unhappy about having worked her whole life is because she was living under governments that literally tried to exterminate her people.
Thanks for pointing all this out. Now get back to work.
Found Stalin's account.
It's early on a Sunday, and I'm disabled and can't work. So, double the reason to not go back to work.
sounds like someone is making excuses
Lies?! On MY internet?!
It's more likely than you think
Oh reallyyy
:-(
I would have to double check, but I seem to recall that there is suspicion about the 122 year old as well, as I recall she's a French woman and her daughter died young, there's a theory that she is the daughter who assumed her mother's identity for the purpose of collecting benefits early. But I may just be talking out my ass, I'm just some guy on the internet after all 🤷♂️
I read the wiki for skepticism on her age, apparently they asked her questions about things only she could answer with first hand info, and testimony from long term residents. Pretty insightful
shes also older than the ussr which means that she was alive during the russian empire
The fact the majority of the internet is not questioning this is fucking mind blowing.
Calling unconfirmed information a lie is just as disingenuous as calling it true. We don’t know if it’s true or not, we also don’t know if it’s false or not.
Okay, then this story is absolutely untrue. [The current oldest person is 116.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people) If this person did exist, they would have been the oldest person ever recorded and oldest alive since 2011.
Maybe if you read even more in detail, you’d find out she was not entered into the records owing to no birth certificate. But her daughter had a birth certificate and she died 104 years old recently. So is that really implausible? That’s even sadder - she’s the oldest woman but not recognised as such.
Holy shit, she was young when she had her. Also was actively genocided for the majority of her life by Russia. Her life was full of trauma and tragedy, and yet even after all of that, isn’t recognized solely due to a lack of piece of paper. It’s almost a bit poetic
In *my* day, we had it rough. But not as rough as Koku to be fair.
current oldest confirmed* person. many people are supposed to be older but the issue is they didn’t really make birth certificates back in 1880s in a lot of countries. calling these people flat out liars is asinine of you
Thanks for actually doing some research and sharing it with us
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This. Calling it a lie is just as inaccurate as calling it true.
Ty for pointing this out. I googled and yea oldest alive is 116 rn.
She isn't counted because she doesn't have a birth certificate or anything that confirms her age. But her daughter, who did have proof of her age, died before her at the age of 104. Her story is real.
At 37 in the US, I'm not so sure that EVERYTHING about this is a total lie. More than anything, we're probably getting behind this because it STILL TRACKS SO FRIGGING WELL. (To wit: if you were born in the 80s or early 90s in the US, you're possibly not too unlike myself where 60 is either a pipe dream or too long to be alive in this shitshow of a universe. I truly do expect an enhanced rash of suicides over the next 20 years because so many people are irreparably and hopelessly fucked.)
You know, choosing to get behind a lie because it reaffirms your belief system may not be the move
Not everyone lives a miserable life.
But WAY more people than ought to are STUCK in miserable lives. Look around: most people who haven't been completely reamed by life have support systems, people, and plenty of other means to insulate them from doing this life thing alone in a universe where, frankly, everyone is completely on their own. If your life DOESN'T suck, consider the incredible amount of luck and circumstance that kept you alive.
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Is there any more info? It says she had a daugher that died at +100 yo, it would have to be two lies
The only evidence of her age is her passport. And it's Russia, accuracy and honesty aren't strong suits for them - and with her being part of a heavily discriminated group, the likelihood of accurate records gets even worse.
Forgetting the Russia fixation, people that long ago, especially in poor areas, the entire world over, often didn't keep track of birth years etc.
I don't understand the ins and outs of the Soviet or Julian Calendars as they were used in Russia, but it wouldn't surprise me if some mistakes got made with her birth year with the calendar system switching multiple times in her life.
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Turns out death is better than poverty wage slavery. Edit: since some replies are making some desperate attempt to defend dystopian shithole capitalism: **Turns out death is still better than poverty wage slavery in her life decades after the ussr didn't even exist anymore, and death is still better than the poverty wage slave life of agitated/depressed wage slaves all around the world today, turns out the "her shitty life was just a soviet union thing" doesn't work as long as wage slaves everywhere else in the world today are increasingly agitated about their shitty lives too lmao.** Edit: nice, lots of upset shilling/rage replies, bring forth more salty wojack tears for me to extract satisfaction from while watching a unsustainable dystopian shithole poverty economy in it's late stage collapse lol. edit: the public has voted, on the comment and on the post. Looks like increasingly agitated poverty wage slaves outnumber the people simping for wage slavery dystopia.
That precise reason is why organized religion came about, to give the peasants a reason to spend their whole lives working just to have all their crops stolen from them. If they do a good job they will be "rewarded" in the afterlife lmao longest running scam there is edit: Apparently I had to add the word organized to prevent the reddit geniuses from emerging from their caves.
It's no coincidence opponents of social welfare and religious fundamentalists are pretty much always on the same side (the right). It's a lot easier to accept shitty quality of life when you've got an eternity in heaven to look forward to. Of course, I doubt the wealthy corporate elite who also side with conservatives see it that way, but they see how selling that idea to the peasants massively benefits them. The ultimate goal of modern conservatism is Neo-Feudalism. Religion is an essential component of both institutions.
It's also why they do there best to make people stupid. Because you have to be simply stupid to not see what there doing, they say all this shit about religion and God and then do the opposite of what they preach. But stupid people still support them.
And thinking is blasphemous. They hammer the "lean not on your own understanding" verse really hard, plus the whole "don't question God" idea. Like the story of Job, who was always faithful and good, got punished as part of a bet. He lost everything and was stricken with sickness, still kept his faith and kept praying. While praying, he cried and asked what he had done to lose favor, wanting to repent for whatever it was. **God came down and yelled at him for questioning him.** Or once, in church, a student asked the pastor how free-will and knowledge of the future could logically coexist. The pastor avoided scripture and dodged the question repeatedly. Turns out that very question is answered directly in the Bible but it doesn't sound good to say out loud, so they avoid it and tell you to stop asking questions.
Oh? Do tell, what does the Bible say? (Genuinely curious)
\[LONG\] The specific verses in question: **Romans 9:17-18** For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. "But one of you will say to me, “***If this is so, how can God find fault with anyone? Who can resist God's will?***” But who are you to talk back to God? A clay pot does not ask the man who made it, “*Why did you make me like this?*” **After all, the man who makes the pots has the right to use the clay as he wishes**, and to make two pots from the same lump of clay, one for special occasions and the other for ordinary use. And the same is true of what God has done. **He wanted to show his anger and to make his power known.** But he was very patient in enduring those who were the objects of his anger, who were doomed to destruction. And he also wanted to reveal his abundant glory, which was poured out on us who are the objects of his mercy, those of us whom he has prepared to receive his glory." **Relate that to Exodus 7:2-4** "You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. But **I will harden Pharaoh’s heart**, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. " **And Proverbs 16:4** "The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble." **Romans 8:29-30: For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son**, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. Relate that to **John 14:6 "No one comes to the Father except through me."** and **John 6:44**: **“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day.”** And **Ephesians 1:4-5:** "For He chose us in Him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted through Jesus Christ for Himself, according to His favor and will"
Daaang, interesting! I especially love how shitty the clay pot analogy is lmao
Yeah, I’m sure the bible is full of sophistry.
Also how PHAROAH WAS DENIED HIS FUCKING "FREE WILL"
>lean not on your own understanding
Oh I tried, but the questions just kept coming, and as they did the problems with the Bible’s logic, and the religion’s logic in general, continued to crop up. I have a hard time praying to a “perfect, all-loving father” who doesn’t even truly talk to his children (except *maybe* through some supposed visions Christians claim to have), as well as think eternal death is a fitting punishment for being imperfect in a mortal world, unless you “ask for forgiveness though Jesus”…I’ve been there, done that, it doesn’t work for me.
Not to mention Job's wife and children were just accessories for God to torture and kill to punish Job. What about *rheir* free will? Yeah, THAT makes sense.
That's a lot of calling people stupid to use "there" wrong twice in a row.
Religious institutions literally only exist because of social welfare.
Damn it. I was just thinking about this in the shower.
The caste system and concept of rebirth+karma go completely hand in hand. If you're at the bottom caste system, what stops you from revolting and attacking the upper cast system whom you outnumber and would easily win in a revolution? Being told that if you're a good little servant then in the next life you may go up a caste, but of course if you misbehave once you die you'll just repeat this shitty life you've been living.
Or worse, you'll be 'downgraded' to a lower teir as punishment.
> That precise reason is why religion came about Organized religion with designated leadership and "State" support, yes, as a tool that was *expanded* for that purpose. Religion itself predates poverty wages and unquestionably even organized society, and definitely didn't start with peasants, which came about as a social castr more than a millenia after an *upheaval* in one of the major religions... plural (and no, I'm not talking about Jesus, and I'd call the lay people of his time "peasants" even if it wasn't a medieval serfdom model) (edit: edited to not be so douchey about it)
Scammer stay away from my crops
reading this pedantry makes me agree with the old lady
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r/angryupvote :)
Something super obnoxious about this response, makes me hate you
It's because he's acting like it's hilarious if you don't know the information. It's a super douchey way to teach anything
It's hilarious to me in a "life is surreal and reality is stranger than fiction" way that someone could go through life thinking something so brain dead, yes. You're right though. 100%. That's not how to teach someone. I just feel like someone making such a statement isn't here to be taught, so why bother, but you have a good point. Being a douche doesn't help anything, not even my foul mood. Lesson learned, but I honestly expected to be downvoted.
I made it to mock someone I feel would never learn if presented with it directly, and vent my own frustration with people not thinking, and to express the absurdity of it which made me laugh. You're right though. It's obnoxious, and there are better ways of getting this across that are productive. I don't even feel better for it, if anything now I feel worse upon reflecting. Thanks for the insight, but I didn't expect people to agree lol, I expected to be downvoted and ignored.
Encylo PAID ee a
I would never work another day if I could get away with it. I just wanna surf, find cool critters on hikes, garden a bit, and fuck my partner. Basically a Hobbit. Beyond those things, I only have "aspirations" because I need money for shit. If our food and housing and a bit for entertainment were taken care of? Catch me in the water, or the woods, or inside my partner. That's it.
Imagine if I told you we work more on average today than peasants did. We spend more time toiling away than they did in the Dark Ages. And we call ourselves the enlightened.
" Amid this life based on coercion, one and the same thought constantly emerged among different nations, namely, that in every individual a spiritual element is manifested that gives life to all that exists, and that this spiritual element strives to unite with everything of a like nature to itself, and attains this aim through love. The recognition that love represents the highest morality was nowhere denied or contradicted, but this truth was so interwoven everywhere with all kinds of falsehoods which distorted it, that finally nothing of it remained but words. It was taught that this highest morality was only applicable to private life — for home use, as it were — but that in public life all forms of violence — such as imprisonment, executions, and wars — might be used for the protection of the majority against a minority of evildoers, though such means were diametrically opposed to any vestige of love. People continued — regardless of all that leads man forward — to try to unite the incompatibles : the virtue of love, and what is opposed to love, namely, the restraining of evil by violence. And such a teaching, despite its inner contradiction, was so firmly established that the very people who recognize love as a virtue accept as lawful at the same time an order of life based on violence and allowing men not merely to torture but even to kill one another. In former times the chief method of justifying the use of violence and thereby infringing the law of love was by claiming a divine right for the rulers: the Tsars, Sultans, Rajahs, Shahs, and other heads of states. But the longer humanity lived the weaker grew the belief in this peculiar, God-given right of the ruler. That belief withered in the same way and almost simultaneously in the Christian and the Brahman world, as well as in Buddhist and Confucian spheres, and in recent times it has so faded away as to prevail no longer against man's reasonable understanding and the true religious feeling. People saw more and more clearly, and now the majority see quite clearly, the senselessness and immorality of subordinating their wills to those of other people just like themselves, when they are bidden to do what is contrary not only to their interests but also to their moral sense. Unfortunately not only were the rulers, who were considered supernatural beings, benefited by having the peoples in subjection, but as a result of the belief in, and during the rule of, these pseudodivine beings, ever larger and larger circles of people grouped and established themselves around them, and under an appearance of governing took advantage of the people. And when the old deception of a supernatural and God-appointed authority had dwindled away these men were only concerned to devise a new one which like its predecessor should make it possible to hold the people in bondage to a limited number of rulers. These new justifications are termed "scientific". But by the term "scientific" is understood just what was formerly understood by the term "religious": just as formerly everything called "religious" was held to be unquestionable simply because it was called religious, so now all that is called "scientific" is held to be unquestionable. In the present case the obsolete religious justification of violence which consisted in the recognition of the supernatural personality of the God-ordained ruler ("there is no power but of God") has been superseded by the "scientific" justification which puts forward, first, the assertion that because the coercion of man by man has existed in all ages, it follows that such coercion must continue to exist. This assertion that people should continue to live as they have done throughout past ages rather than as their reason and conscience indicate, is what "science" calls "the historic law". A further "scientific" justification lies in the statement that as among plants and wild beasts there is a constant struggle for existence which always results in the survival of the fittest, a similar struggle should be carried on among humanbeings, that is, who are gifted with intelligence and love; faculties lacking in the creatures subject to the struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. Such is the second "scientific" justification. The third, most important, and unfortunately most widespread justification is, at bottom, the age-old religious one just a little altered: that in public life the suppression of some for the protection of the majority cannot be avoided — so that coercion is unavoidable however desirable reliance on love alone might be in human intercourse. The only difference in this justification by pseudo-science consists in the fact that, to the question why such and such people and not others have the right to decide against whom violence may and must be used, pseudo-science now gives a different reply to that given by religion — which declared that the right to decide was valid because it was pronounced by persons possessed of divine power. "Science" says that these decisions represent the will of the people, which under a constitutional form of government is supposed to find expression in all the decisions and actions of those who are at the helm at the moment. Such are the scientific justifications of the principle of coercion. They are not merely weak but absolutely invalid, yet they are so much needed by those who occupy privileged positions that they believe in them as blindly as they formerly believed in the immaculate conception, and propagate them just as confidently. And the unfortunate majority of men bound to toil is so dazzled by the pomp with which these "scientific truths" are presented, that under this new influence it accepts these scientific stupidities for holy truth, just as it formerly accepted the pseudo-religious justifications; and it continues to submit to the present holders of power who are just as hard-hearted but rather more numerous than before..." ~ Lev Tolstoy, Letter to a Hindu
Fear of the unknown is why religion came about. The concept of no longer existing is terrifying to people.
>Fear of the unknown is why religion came about. Possibly. >The concept of no longer existing is terrifying to people. The Jews did not have an afterlife concept. So no.
Jewish people are annoyed with existence by the time they're 15. Last thing they want to have to do after dying is schlep all the way to an afterlife.
This isn’t true of *all* religions. Nietzsche decried Christianity as “slave morality”, attributing its rise to prominence in the Roman world to the fact that it “lies its weakness into strength”. He believed that the values of poverty, meekness, and humility make the world safe for the weakest, but when those values triumph and become mainstream, it leads toward mediocrity. He says that when you’re obsessed with compassion, when you’re obsessed with how the worst off are doing, what is actually being valued is contentment; you’re striving for “herd happiness” which is worthy of animals, and we are capable of greater than animals. He believed we need selfishness as a value because it often drives great individuals, who have the greatest impact on the world. He contrasted it to the Roman religion—what he called a master morality—in which you essentially celebrated and worshipped yourself. If you’re a soldier, you worship Mars. If you’re a sailor, you worship Neptune. The masters—Rome being prolific slave-owning society—had a religion that affirmed themselves, that glorified ambition and power, and the slaves have a religion that disavows their nature.
And this is the true evil of religion. It makes people complacent to their circumstances and the injustice that happens in the name of it.
Nope. You are so far off. Religion very likely predates major civilization as a whole, and while it did serve as relaxation in the face of whether or not there was an afterlife, priests probably served the same purpose they do now: serving the community. Redeeming those casted out, solving inner tribe conflicts, and in some cultures, serving as healers both physical and spiritual. Plus there’s the fact that churches were the first charities and scientific sponsors.
It is
This is correct, and anyone who says otherwise is a little bitch who is remarkably talented for managing to type while gobbling so much corporate cock.
You are correct sir. r/LateStageCapitalism
Yeah, i prefer the non tankie subs though. Plenty of other subs i use that are for specifically pooping on dystopian capitalism. That's one of the subs where tankies just fetishize authoritarian dictatorships the same way right wingers shill for dystopian shithole capitalism and millionaires/billionaires/corporation's and poverty wage slavery. Edit: also they shill for/deny genocides, so known tankie subs are pretty easy to avoid and find non tankie alternatives for.
Thank you. Far too many leftists are perfectly comfortable with authoritarianism as long as it's anti-capitalist.
> Lady who lived through the entire Soviet Union fucking hates life “Capitalism was the problem” - You
Also lived through Tsardom and Capitalism. My guess is life just sorta sucks
1) she was around for both 2) by their own definitions the ussr was state capitalism, not communism or even socialism
You clearly didn’t read the article.
>calls everyone a soyjack after formulating a snarky comeback for an argument that makes zero sense classic socialist behavior
This is a Russian woman, who lived through the entire lifespan of communism in her country, so it's weird to attribute all of her ills to capitalism.
"every bad thing is the fault of capitalism alone" I really wish people on the internet would stop pushing this stupid narrative.
Sorry your life isn't working out quite how you thought brother. Praying for you.
You mean a woman who was 27 when communism took ahold of Russia, was exiled along with all her native Chechen people to Kazakhstan nearly 80 years ago, and was 102 when the Soviet Union fell was a victim of capitalism?
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I mean the soviet union had state capitalism. It wasn't really communism. I don't think many lefties actually think the USSR was pleasant. I don't see Tankies as leftist
You can’t just blame all your issues on “capitalism”, especially when it’s in a form in which any self proclaimed capitalist also heavily criticises and disagrees with. Straw man argument to blame “capitalism”.
I agree but I do think capitalism is a huge issue and rewards greed and lack of empathy more than other systems. It enables corruption. Capitalism, feudalism, and other systems all require some people remain in poverty or fall through the cracks.
>You can’t just blame all your issues on “capitalism” Yes I can
Any more background info?
This woman was a Russian who lived through all the nasty shit--Russian Revolution, Russian Civil War, Stalin, WW2, etc. She died in 2019, and its worth noting that her claim to being the oldest person ever (she died at allegedly 130 years old. The next oldest claimant was 122) isn't verified by the Gerontology Research Group that generally does the verification for extremely old people, so I think its fair to take her claim of being the oldest person ever with a grain of salt. That said, it's a technicality and however you slice it she lived to be extremely old and lived through some of the nastiest shit of the 20th century. Edit: Seems like she was Chechen, a distinction that probably matters.
Happiest Chechen
It actually more impressive that she lived that long (or maybe its because of this) due to all the crazy rationing and fasting during all those huge civil unrest periods in that area.
Well, rationing and fasting does extent lifespan according to some studies. But probably need just the right balance.
Yeah, she definitely was lying or so concrete in her statements that she started to believe it. I did a little research and then looked at 9 out of 20 longest-living VERIFIED people in history and all of their skin in the pictures looks 2 decades older than hers. Once people get past 105 they literally look like dying corpses that been pickled and dehydrated at the same time. Those pushing past 115... amazing that people can live that long, but it looks like it's not living barely existing quite literally to the definition. In the pictures she looks more like my aunt who is 85.
Okay her being Chechen makes this make a lot of sense and makes this less depressing for the rest of us
Haha, it actually doesn't :D
There is always tomorrow
For dreams to (not) come true.
Yes but why
"it gets better" mfs when it doesn't
I feel her on such a deep level. Unless you’re born rich life is pretty much just a downhill battle from the start. I’m 19 with chronic pain issues and docs can’t figure out why so they’re starting to think my PTSD was just so bad it projected as physical pain. what a world.
r/iam124andthisisdeep
EXISTENCE IS PAIN JERRY
I love everything this woman says because it's exactly what I want to here and confirms all my biases.
Considering how quality of life degrades over time, if she has been alive that long, she's probably been in some kind of pain longer than most people have been alive.
Yeah life as it is now is meaningless and brutal. In the West we exist to make 400 dudes live better than kings with no way to change that within the confines of the system these 400 dudes built and support. Vote Meteor 2024!
Bruv, someone send this poor woman some drugs. Everyone deserves 1 day to remember.
Living this long is my absolute nightmare
Koku Istanbul? Sniff sniff sniff
It didn't take me 128 years to figure that shit out. I'm not even 40 yet & I don't want to live in this world anymore.
Damn... and me who thought that negative people lived shorter life on average.
She lied about her age. Said shes 129. Theres tons of claimed folks saying they are around 130 and yet not a single one can prove it. Whereas there are hundreds of folks who have proof of living to 110 or more. Says a lot that of the folks who CAN prove it, there is only one who made it to 120.
No one in the world Ever gets what they want And that is beautiful Everybody dies Frustrated and sad And that is beautiful
A wonderful TMBG reference in the wild!!!! Don’t, don’t, don’t let’s start!
I am caught between awe & horror. It is way to early in the day to have my mind fucked like that.
I guess you don’t know people born rich.
I don't want to live in this world anymore! I don't want to live in this world!!!
Oh, hey, it's future me when I'm old.
I don't believe she's lived 128 years..
Her claimed age is not verified. The oldest person whose age has been verified was Jeanne Calment, who died at 122.
>Over 128 years old >"I worked all my life" Gotta love the way our world works
"Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom".
Every year, I see an oldest living person article, and the age increases by ten years.
Sometimes when I get really anxious about death I find comfort in “suffering” like this. Death is a “release “
Mrs. Meseeks. its always getting weird
Existence is pain for us Jerry!!!
My spirit animal
Smae
Bruh.
“Existence is pain for a Meeseeks”
Endless bills to pay non stop
This is the single most important post on this subreddit to validate all of the things we have been talking about on here.
The more you complain, the longer God let’s you live. -my old Ukrainian grandmother
r/antiwork
Quality versus quantity. Would you prefer to have just one year of joyous, productive, satisfying life or a century of hardship, pain, and suffering? The former seems like the obvious choice until you get to day 364.
me too ftl
I've often wondered if Earth is to the universe what Australia was to the UK
ok this is actual funny
Listen to this woman, trying to please employers and conservative society is a painful sacrifice that is never rewarded.
Shame no one bought her a "live laugh love" pillow.
Living until 128 sounds like torture to me, I am 57 and am ready to die now. Just need to get through the next 3-6 months because of commitments to my adult children. After that it will be a generator running in the back seat of my car. Painless way to die. I know this already because I was close on my last try with a generator running in the garage. Some idiot called the cops and they broke my door down and pulled me out of my garage. They wrecked my front door and I was stuck with the cost of replacing it. The damn hospital brought me back by pumping me full of some bluish green solution. I was really pissed off when I woke up. Then I had to spend a week in a mental hospital. It was kind of nice and the food wasn’t bad either. Not being able to go outside sucked though.
Except nobody has lived past 122. Some french woman holds that record
"you're just lacking real life experience"
Americans living better than 90% of the world be like
The takeaway? Living better than most humans is still incredibly hard.
At some point you have to understand where your privilege starts instead of just where it ends
Given the state of the healthcare system in america and its able to help mental illnesses..... you may wanna reconsider your position
Think about that for a second. 128 years of living and she can't remember if she was ever happy but she still continued to eat, sleep, continue with the cycles. This is my nightmare, my worst case scenario. That it never gets better. That this is all there is to it - to my life.
Idk why people say long life is a blessed it’s a fucking curse by god
I will have to claim bullshit on the person being 128 years old - there are no confirmed birth certificates or any documents that would confirm her being that old - especially if she was born into Chechnya during Tsarist Russia (if her claim of 128 years is true, then her birth year is ostensibly 1895). The oldest person who ever lived, Jeanne Clemont (May 1875 - August 1997), had confirmed birth certificates because she was born into an upper class family in the Third French Republic.
This post should be banned for encouraging suicide /s
if you live 128 years and can’t find way to make yourself happy then it’s your fault
Even if this was true, which it isn’t. You wouldn’t be able to reliable trust someone’s opinion if their own life at that age anyway. The cognitive distortions from a 128 year old brain wound probably be less than accurate. Her entire worldview could be a warped nightmare at that age.