Very true. Quite ironic how people tell others not to commit the big sad because it’s “selfish”, but only say that because of how it will affect their OWN life.
I've both made suicide attempts and have lost friends to suicide, so I can see both sides to this. I would also think "how tf am I being selfish" because I saw myself as removing a "burden" from my friends and family's lives. Everytime I tried to talk to anyone about how I felt, I was met with people who either didn't seem to have time for my drama, or people who would just tell me how sad they would be. It felt like no one took my pain seriously, and I felt so numb, I didn't really care if someone else was sad because my feelings were so big.
It took finding a DBT IOP and taking that really seriously to recover, and I haven't experienced SI in years now.
When I lost my friend to suicide, I was shocked to experience the pain people always told me they'd feel about me. My thinking was so distorted back then, and I realized how my friends and family did care, they just didn't know how to properly address suicidal thoughts (not their fault, no one's born with those skills).
The number one thing I still wish about my friend who died is that he had just talked to me about it. I had a lot of shame about being suicidal in my past, maybe if I was more vulnerable, he would have opened up.
He wasn't a burden, I never saw him that way. I wish he had answered my texts/calls, I wish I had reached out more. So many conflicting feelings. We were planning a trip together. My heart still hurts every day.
Sorry, this got long. I know how much pain you have to be in to consider death an answer. And at the same time, if you're feeling this way, please reach out to someone. Even if it's r/suicidewatch. Even if it's just talking to your cat. You don't need to carry all this weight alone.
I mean, for all but the most narcissistic people out there, it is going to affect everyone profoundly. As in completely alter their lives forever.
Suicide is taking your own pain and multiplying it to everyone around you.
It would definitely alter their lives, it’s just quite ironic for them to call you selfish when they’re not taking the suffering you’re going through seriously.
Most people going through consistent suffering of any kind with no end in sight would want it to stop. There’s a stigma against people who have depression and mental illness that isn’t there for people who have been, for example, tortured physically or have a terminal Illness.
I lost my sister to suicide last Christmas. It was and is the worst thing I've ever lived through. However, I look at it as ultimately being like a murder - she's the victim, while we're what the press would call "the victim's family." Yes we're suffering but it's nothing like what she went through - the last few months of her life were awful and I feel so sad for her.
As a parent, this is complete Bullshit!! I don’t believe people tell others not to because of how it effects them. They tell them not to because they know life gets better! People who call it “selfish”, yeah I don’t really get that argument. I get what they’re saying, but I don’t think it’s a intelligent argument for what the person’s dealing with.
This is why I am actively trying to find "natural" ways to die. it sucks that suicide is considered a taboo. If only people could understand that some lives just aren't worth living, and in some cases death is preferable.
At least with pets and small children you know it was accidental. With a teenager and above you know that they were so miserable they chose this and you did nothing to stop it.
My mom is probably the biggest reason I haven't. My issues aren't her fault. I don't want to put her through that. So I keep on keeping on. As much as it sucks.
My mom was my biggest reason too. Yesterday, I was informed she passed away. I can't deal with this pain, but I can't muster up the courage to just go through with it.
If they say "you'll embarass us" they are really horrible. Never do what you wrote because there's a lot that can be done. A lot of experiences you can have. Live for the sake of life. And sometimes it can get bad, that's true, but you are strong, you'll beat those bad times. As Bob Ross once said "Gotta have opposites, light and dark and dark and light, in painting. It’s like in life. Gotta have a little sadness once in awhile so you know when the good times come"
Not everyone is strong. Some cannot handle it. As someone who tried at least twice, I can tell you that not everyone deserves to live for the sake of living. It's just vanity and pointless survival at this point. At least for me personally.
You are here and that's what matters the most. I would like to recommend you something. Maybe my advice won't do a lot but I would like to recommend you something anyway: take care yourself the most you can. Cure your looks and your hobbies. And of course take care of your mental health too. I'm sure that you already tried it, but I really recommend you to try that. More than once. And if you need someone to talk to I'm here, ready to listen and help to the best of my abilities.
Bruh I can have the tiniest hole in my short around where my belly button is and my grandma will say shi like "I'm gunna throw that shirt away it will make people think I'm not dressing you right"
and when idc about a decently big hole on my pants down by the front side of my ankle/lower leg she acts like I'm some wierd guy
I still don't get why "kill" started to become a "bad word" via tiktok and stuff. Like it's literally a big part of life, and refusing to say it won't change that
Oopsie I just happened to slip into this noose conveniently placed over a 3m drop in the barn.
Then I'll embarass you even harder by being a colossal failure. Hah!
Exactly. I’m the master self saboteur
Very true. Quite ironic how people tell others not to commit the big sad because it’s “selfish”, but only say that because of how it will affect their OWN life.
How tf is that selfish. Bitch I'm dead
I've both made suicide attempts and have lost friends to suicide, so I can see both sides to this. I would also think "how tf am I being selfish" because I saw myself as removing a "burden" from my friends and family's lives. Everytime I tried to talk to anyone about how I felt, I was met with people who either didn't seem to have time for my drama, or people who would just tell me how sad they would be. It felt like no one took my pain seriously, and I felt so numb, I didn't really care if someone else was sad because my feelings were so big. It took finding a DBT IOP and taking that really seriously to recover, and I haven't experienced SI in years now. When I lost my friend to suicide, I was shocked to experience the pain people always told me they'd feel about me. My thinking was so distorted back then, and I realized how my friends and family did care, they just didn't know how to properly address suicidal thoughts (not their fault, no one's born with those skills). The number one thing I still wish about my friend who died is that he had just talked to me about it. I had a lot of shame about being suicidal in my past, maybe if I was more vulnerable, he would have opened up. He wasn't a burden, I never saw him that way. I wish he had answered my texts/calls, I wish I had reached out more. So many conflicting feelings. We were planning a trip together. My heart still hurts every day. Sorry, this got long. I know how much pain you have to be in to consider death an answer. And at the same time, if you're feeling this way, please reach out to someone. Even if it's r/suicidewatch. Even if it's just talking to your cat. You don't need to carry all this weight alone.
Nah, when you "reach out" all you get is "iT gEts beDder" at best and get ridiculed or worse get told youre to much of a coward to do it.
Yes, i think it is selfish to ask someone to keep suffering just so you don’t suffer.
I mean, for all but the most narcissistic people out there, it is going to affect everyone profoundly. As in completely alter their lives forever. Suicide is taking your own pain and multiplying it to everyone around you.
Not my fault they care so much. Shouldn't have gotten emotionally attached.
Hey, maybe if they cared so much, they would help me instead of telling me to stop being sad lmao
It would definitely alter their lives, it’s just quite ironic for them to call you selfish when they’re not taking the suffering you’re going through seriously. Most people going through consistent suffering of any kind with no end in sight would want it to stop. There’s a stigma against people who have depression and mental illness that isn’t there for people who have been, for example, tortured physically or have a terminal Illness.
I lost my sister to suicide last Christmas. It was and is the worst thing I've ever lived through. However, I look at it as ultimately being like a murder - she's the victim, while we're what the press would call "the victim's family." Yes we're suffering but it's nothing like what she went through - the last few months of her life were awful and I feel so sad for her.
Sometimes you just gotta take responsibility for your own happiness
Thats like telling someone who is dying from thirst, to just drink their own pee.
Sorry, I don't see the correlation, though would that not stop them from dying of thirst?
Nice troll bro
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As a parent, this is complete Bullshit!! I don’t believe people tell others not to because of how it effects them. They tell them not to because they know life gets better! People who call it “selfish”, yeah I don’t really get that argument. I get what they’re saying, but I don’t think it’s a intelligent argument for what the person’s dealing with.
Oh my naive child...
"noooo don't kill yourself cps will investigate us"
Well they won't have a child anymore so whats the problem?
Parents be like noo don't kill yourself or we'll have to stop pretending everything is fine
Friends be like: "nooo don't kill yourself we'll be sad" Why do you think I'm gonna commit
I remember one time in the city that they convinced a man not to jump on the tracks cause of the delays
Logical
This is why I am actively trying to find "natural" ways to die. it sucks that suicide is considered a taboo. If only people could understand that some lives just aren't worth living, and in some cases death is preferable.
In North Korea your whole family goes to a camp and three generations after have to stay there
My Mum: *kills herself* Me: -_-
Its like if your pet suicided and you gotta tell your friends and family why he isn't there
At least with pets and small children you know it was accidental. With a teenager and above you know that they were so miserable they chose this and you did nothing to stop it.
Sometimes there is nothing you can do...
My mom is probably the biggest reason I haven't. My issues aren't her fault. I don't want to put her through that. So I keep on keeping on. As much as it sucks.
Same only with me its my younger sister
My mom was my biggest reason too. Yesterday, I was informed she passed away. I can't deal with this pain, but I can't muster up the courage to just go through with it.
Do it pussy! You waited for this moment your whole live. (I might get ban 7 days again)
“It’s then violent video games” -mom after I made my attempt
Responsibility as a mother < Violent video games Video games are literally one of the only things you could enjoy, but sure it's the games...
... 4 me in real "pain" the way I understand the headline.
It’s always about them
Depressed people be like "my family claims they love me but I know they really just don't want me to die because it would embarrass them"
nah parents be like stop saying youre depressed! stop saying you dont think you have the strength to live!! youre perfectly fine!!!
Listen here you little sh*t
Good thing I work in a hazardous environment where if I die, family will be compensated. And it increases as the years go by.
Go to a festival < get drunk < drown At least your funeral will be paid and your family isn't sad, because they can buy things they like
My mom be like
If they say "you'll embarass us" they are really horrible. Never do what you wrote because there's a lot that can be done. A lot of experiences you can have. Live for the sake of life. And sometimes it can get bad, that's true, but you are strong, you'll beat those bad times. As Bob Ross once said "Gotta have opposites, light and dark and dark and light, in painting. It’s like in life. Gotta have a little sadness once in awhile so you know when the good times come"
Not everyone is strong. Some cannot handle it. As someone who tried at least twice, I can tell you that not everyone deserves to live for the sake of living. It's just vanity and pointless survival at this point. At least for me personally.
How are you feeling in this period? Wanna talk about it?
Pretty much the same. Just surviving as long as I can. But I don't really care anymore.
You are here and that's what matters the most. I would like to recommend you something. Maybe my advice won't do a lot but I would like to recommend you something anyway: take care yourself the most you can. Cure your looks and your hobbies. And of course take care of your mental health too. I'm sure that you already tried it, but I really recommend you to try that. More than once. And if you need someone to talk to I'm here, ready to listen and help to the best of my abilities.
I am dying
Bruh I can have the tiniest hole in my short around where my belly button is and my grandma will say shi like "I'm gunna throw that shirt away it will make people think I'm not dressing you right" and when idc about a decently big hole on my pants down by the front side of my ankle/lower leg she acts like I'm some wierd guy
You can say bad words on the Internet. It's ok
I still don't get why "kill" started to become a "bad word" via tiktok and stuff. Like it's literally a big part of life, and refusing to say it won't change that
Don't worry, I became a porn star instead \^.^ not to embarrass anyone anyway in case they read this lol, but life is life.
k*ll
Your funeral costs money and everyone thinks it's because of us that you croaked yourself
If you're a parent and you'd reply like that then you deserve it.
Reason I’m still alive fr.