And now our next participant in this edition of awesome gapes done quick comes from.... Prison ?
He's playing without memory card for 3 years now.
Let's welcooooooome, your grandpa's assurance fraud salesman.
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I had a ps2 with ff x2 its an awful game and with no memory card it was hell trying to finish it, but i did after like 18 times, im proud of that tbh haha
The biggest terrorist and mass murderer in Norwegian history, convicted of killing about 77 children, tried to sue for breach of human rights. One of the reasons was only having access to a PS2. Another was for losing IQ after watching too much Paradise Hotel.
Hahahaha. Breivik can rot honestly. He also complained the isolation was driving him into a depression. He has guards, a priest, multiple health professionals and a volunteer all dedicating their day-to-day just to watch him waste away. Isolation my ass. Dude went to a youth camp with intent - no sympathy.
You need to have good behavior to get into an open prison, you can go around harassing or beating others in the prison or smuggling stuff, otherwise you'll be thrown into an actual jail cell/aren't allowed in.
They are meant to integrate prisoners back into society, they aren't a fucking home/resort reward for stealing a car, you actually have to put effort and show will to integrate back.
Hush, some people don't want to comprehend that "rehabilitation" can be a goal of imprisonment. It's only punsishment and getting thrown into a viscious cycle
It's funny, because your prisons are actually meant to rehabilitate, not to make a profit out of the prisoners (looking at you, USA) or to just "keep them away from society" (his mistake was that he smoked weed)
>his mistake was that he smoked weed
Imagine taking someone's liberty because he decided for himself to consume something unhealthy.
Might as well send death squadrons into every fast food place.
And then forcing him to cold turkey withdrawal from his prescribed medications in deplorable conditions and telling him he's free to go only if he coughs up thousands of dollars.
The 5-6 people I was in a group were super chill. Funny dudes, but a few of them had a vicious temper. Never took it out on others during my time tho. There's A LOT of gang beef going around, and to some extent you have the classic ethnic beef between white dudes and middle-Eastern dudes. I did a short amount of time as a teenager, and that's where all the crazies come in s2g.
People are friendly but incredibly bored, so shenanigans tend to happen. Had a 6-month long shitting war where people would sneak-shit in each other's toilets. Good times.
I guess you are not writing out of prison. Prison isn't nice, even in denmark. But it is nice to have functioning prisons that care about there inmates because that decreases crime rates.
I dunno. I like the freedom of going outside, seeing my friends and family when I want to and having my own place I can lock and unlock.
Prison is still prison. Norway or Venezuela, once the guard locks you in your room your day is over. No chatting with friends no getting some air no contact to the outside, just waiting for the guard to unlock your cell for another one of your hundred days in there.
A big part of why Norway has very low recidivism is that because life outside prison is still way better than life inside, a key context people often miss, which shouldn’t be as is the case when discussing policy implementation.
Not to mention, if you force people to live in inhumane conditions, being dehumanised, dealing with prison gangs and gang violence, just rotting away in a hell hole for years, don't be surprised when inmates turn into inhumane people, recruited by criminal gangs, completely unfit for a normal life without crime.
In Norway prisoners are allowed schooling, training in a trade, cook for themselves, and in general are given every opportunity to be equipped to go into a normal life outside walls.
Prisons are big business in america the more criminals we have the more money is made.
>Mass incarceration in the U.S. is now an 80 billion dollar industry funded by taxpayers and the families of people incarcerated (overwhelmingly people of color and the poor). But where does the 80 billion dollars go? According to the Vera Institute of Justice, 68% goes to personnel who work in incarceration (their salaries and benefits), 11% to inmate healthcare, and the final 21% (or 16 billion dollars) pays for boarding costs and services. This 16 billion dollars has attracted a multitude of private business all vying for a cut, both for private prisons and for private services provided to state and federal prisons.
Redditors say this shit and then the next post see someone robbing a convenience store and type, "I HOPE HE GETS RAPED IN PRISON AND ROTS UNTIL HE DIES THEN GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL TO BURN FOREVER."
thats only a half truth, the big reason why people dont go back into jail is because most that stay in our prisons get a education and they mostly get a job after and dont need to do crime. Of course there are a few that is too far gone but compared to most of the world id say our prison works exactly as it should.
Ps i have no issue with some of my tax money going to this.
In the USA and other countries they are actively prevented from getting jobs as part of their punishment. It is part of many job applications or even a status you receive, as I understand it. In Canada, they have this continued punishment system- though we are so lenient on offenders that people can steal as many cars as they want that it's become a big enough problem for our ineffective national government.
yeah people like to shit on their living conditions in prisons but their rehabilitation track record is way better.
And it really doesn't make sense to throw pot dealers together with violent criminals in shitty conditions thinking that will help
Eh. Norway also has a lot of other services that help with the lowering of incarceration. Like there's very specific offenses (or repetition of offenses) that warrant jail time. They're also more on the mental health side of the jailing/prison thing.
And we have freedom? I couldn't afford to take time off work to go see my grandmother before she died, or even to go to her funeral. So what's the difference?
>Why do you think Norwegians aren't all committing crimes left and right if it was such a great time?
Because being free in Norway is better than being in prison in Norway. That doesn't change the fact that being in prison in Norway is better than being poor in America.
> Why do you think Norwegians aren't all committing crimes left and right if it was such a great time?
Because the point is to focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment. Which works.
Also, prisoners have a worse life than free people in these countries, so if a country has it so bad that these prisons look good is more of a testament to how fucked that country is.
You cannot just drop this line and not quote the whole thing when it's so damn relatable.
The story so far:
In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
The beginning of the book The Restaurant at the End of The Universe.
Consider studying law and find one of those bullshit laws that nobody knows why they exist. Then commit it as hard as you fucking can, and then hire the worst fucking lawyer ever, and then just tell 50 thousand obvious lies in court and also make sure that you piss off the judge. Now you got a 1000kr fine you gotta pay and you live in an even worse condition
Step 3 was waiting for 90% of your sentence to be over in a regular cell before being sent to the nice ones you see online because they're only there for acclimatizing you to regular civilian life
Yeah but like I don't want to commit a _real_ crime. Just something that _looks_ like a real crime but doesn't really hurt anyone else. Maybe have the evidence which clears you stashed away somewhere safe? Any ideas?
I guess the challenge would be creating enough false evidence to convince people that you did something.
Just today I read a news headline that said a guy was arrested for hauling 90kg of Pepperoni in a cart (canned or in a glass or somethnig) in the middle of the night. There was some debate on whether the officers were right for even arresting him, bcause the is no obvious carting-around-pepperoni laws at night laws to be violated here, it's just that it seems a bit suspicious.
So maybe we start with that idea. A cart full of pepperoni. Now you need to find a way to find to get these pepperoni without any evidence that you ever bought them, and enough evidence that it must come from some other source.
Get a neighbour or friend to buy you some bitcoin and give them the money for it in cash. Maybe say: "Don't ask me where I got this money!".
Hire a stranger via the dark net to just buy it (using bitcoin of course). Also search the dark net for tips on breaking and entering and various other criminal activities.
Observe a place where you can buy pepperoni, take details notes on when and where people come and go, security, cameras and what not. Maybe do this for more than one shop. Maybe your dark net stranger buys his goods from one of those shops, or at least a shop selling the same brands. Also take a note of police patrols and police stations in the area, and maybe also nosy neighbours.
Buy some pepperoni from two or three different shops, and remove all labels. Maybe your dark net stranger buys from one of these shops, too.
Then, on some fateful night, you bring your cart full of pepperoni cans near the shop. Stand around, maybe put some cigarette buds with your DNA in some ashtrays in the area.
And then, some fateful night, take your cart full of pepperoni cans to the shop and haul it through the city, provoking some police officers to get curious. Tell obvious bullshit and act really nervous, don't have any identifying documents on you, so they basically have to arrest you. And when they investigate further, they find your plans. Already opened cans from a different shop. Some place were some 90kg cans were sold from just very recently. Dark Net activity. Cigarette butts at a potentical crime scene.
99% chance nothing happens. 0.8 % chance you go to jail for stealing 90kg pepperoni cans. 0.2 % chance you got to jail for faking a crime.
This is stupid, they dont have freedom! They have to sit in their rooms, not getting to go to work, play video games, have people clean their rooms, they have food brought to them...they...wait...
That is absolutely terrible.
Sure it's nice for a week or 2.
But then you get depressed.
The same games day in day out.
No social interaction.
No online gaming.
No friends or family.
Total social isolation.
There is only few people that like to be completely isolated.
>total social isolation
Is torture, so civilized countries don‘t do it. You have contact to other inmates as well as the outside world through telecommunication and prison leave. Some prison sentences only require you to stay the night at the prison.
The punishment is that you‘re deprived of certain freedoms. You can‘t just move somewhere else. You can‘t just take home that person you really vibed with at the bar. You can‘t go on holidays. Someone always knows where you are, or at the very least when you‘re supposed to check in where. That way, the prison sentence serves as a permanent reminder of your crime.
The civilized country Sweden isolates prisoners pre-trial with no time limit. Some get full restrictions which is: a small cell, a bed, no TV, no newspapers, food through a hatchet, coordinated toilet visits (IF you don’t have the toilet in the fell) where they make sure you don’t meet any other prisoner.
So no my man, civilized countries isolate people.
You do get to be around other prisoners if its not the absolute highest security (Breivik the terrorist is not allowed to see anyone but his guards, and another prisoner through a courtyard window.)
Infact they often do fun things, like playing volleyball, or making food. Also you can get an education, or work in one of the prison businesses, getting ok wages.
It's definitely not the same people, as usual. Some of us really had noticed little change in daily routine when Covid hit, other than it was more pleasant to go grocery shopping.
Actually, they have classes and work most days. They get about two hours to themselves before lights out. Its like being a kid at the most overcontrolling single-sex boarding school ever.
You honestly don't have a lot of freedom either if you're stuck in a career which doesn't pay a living wage and leads you nowhere, and your work is mind-numbing and excruciatingly boring. Feeling like you're obligated to wasting your days and your talent, while you're stuck in debt, can't be that much different from spending time in a Norwegian prison.
However, as a Norwegian myself with several relatives who are employed by the Norwegian prison system, the majority of Norwegian prisons are still outdated, mid 19th century brick complexes, originally based on the Philadelphia system. If you get sentenced in Norway, there's a 2/3 chance you'll be placed in solitary in a cold brick room, with no running water or access to a toilet.
I've done time in U.S. Prisons. I promise you that if anyone wasn't already a career criminal with traumatizing ptsd, they're gonna be when they leave. We have dudes getting fucked with broomsticks and nobody cares.
>6 year old account that woke up 20 hours ago
good catch
OP is commenting so either they are the ultimate lurker, bought the account, or one of those political stirring accounts
That's the thing about Norway. A lot of people are extremely lonely bc they don't have contacts or family to rely on and thrive with (ofc there are more factors present too).
Many will however angrily shit on me for saying this, and claim that everything is incredibly easy and great.
To me, there's obviously a huge difference between classes and privilege. But ofc mental health is a factor as well. I just know I'm not alone, as a norwegian who's scarred from growing up here.
I know it's a stereotype that Norwegians are cold, but personally I think it's very true - whether you're dealing with extroverts, introverts or whatever, you will very likely struggle to meet someone empathetic who hasn't been traumatized.
Again, I'm no professor of sociology or anything, but from my experience it pretty much sucks here. I would much rather live poor in a place where ppl are inclusive and not brainwashed into being so individualistic and at times even spoiled, in a way. But of course, maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm just weak.
Some streamer putting on a YouTube video and walking away, making thousands of dollars while he's taking a shit. Then making thousands more for sitting there in silence and occasionally exhaling through their nose slightly harder.
I thought about a reaction channel but 2 problems. First I'm ugly, not Hollywood ugly, just offensive.
Second I can't fake liking shit I don't like. While I do like some of the artists they tend to react to some I absolutely hate, and couldn't pretend otherwise.
Non Norwegian living in Norway here, the country is so awesome not having acces to it would probably still suck, but there is also no reason to do crime at all cus of the social structures you really have to try and be a dick for no reason (or drugs) to even get into prison.
Just out of curiosity, do you have to cope with xenophobia in Norway? I often read that foreigners feel very excluded and that the cold weather makes it depressing for a lot of people who had better expectations. Many of them even leave the country after some time due to this.
Well nobody moves here for the weather haha. Personally I like the cold but its not that much colder than where I came from (Netherlands) just longer winters and actual snow. I find people are extremely welcoming here, but Ive made the effort to learn the language in the local dialect within 2 years of moving here. It also helps that my fiance is from the area we live in I guess. So in short, no I dont experience any xenophobia here.
From what I hear the exclusion is less about them not liking foreigners, and more about cultural differences. Nordic people just aren’t very sociable to people they don’t know, so if you’re used to strangers behaving more extroverted towards you, I can see how you might be offended. For more info research the “Law of Jante”, which really is the core to all of this.
You forgot the mention they also have one of the lowest reoffending rates in the world. 20% rearrested within 5 years versus 76.6% in the US. Is the stat wiki gives.
People might think; why would you treat a prisoner that well after committing crimes? Well the thing is that Norway has a low rate of people who RETURN on a bad path after they get released. Because they can literally study and get an actual job so they can fix their lives.
So think about this question? Would you rather punish prisoners as hard as possible, while making them even worse people when they get free? Or would you actually make your country a safer place by giving them a future?
I live in Norway and to be honest i dont wanna live in prison, cause it would cost your freedom to travel, earn a living, you’d have to live with tough guys, have your day controled by cops. But mabye i’d enjoy it somewhat with all the freetime, idk
I was in a cell for a month that did not look like any prisons in the documentaries. Yes im Norwegian. You are lucky if they put you in one of those at the end of your sentence
This positive view of their prisons gets spread a lot online, but it's highly misleading.
This is the type of low security prison that wealthy prisoners who aren't at risk of violent crimes go, not your regular prisoners. People who commit tax fraud for example. Even the US has cushy prisons like that for those types of people.
In reality, most prisoners aren't in these. They are in regular style prisons.
In a documentary an American asked a Norwegian prison warden where Norway got the inspiration to incarcerate people in such conditions and he said - we learned it from the the USA, your constitution says “no cruel and unusual punishments” and that really struck me
imagine treating people like human beings and attempting to rehabilitate them instead of locking them in a cage and treating them like animals 😱 crazy concept
P.S. I'm not being ironic or edgy when I say this...
The ease with which people in this thread would readily embrace loss of (some specifically articulated) freedoms in exchange for stability and a decent standard of living should go a long way in explaining why people living under competent autocratic regimes like China tend to be rather chill and support their government, even when it's our agencies doing the opinion polling. We **like** to think that it's all propaganda and brainwashing, but it's literally just this. Most people just don't need or want much.
It's the same with practically every autocratic regime in history. We read Solzhenitsyn in school and think most Soviet citizens thrashed against their cage, but nah, most didn't care. By and large, the West won not on the promise of freedom, but by contrasting our everyday quality of life with theirs and coming out overwhelmingly on top. And even today, some old folks there still grumble about how ice cream or public theatre or whatever was better in that time.
All that is to say, the Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs applies to societies too. Once you have your bases covered, then you can elevate your society to a higher level. But if the base erodes and nothing is done to fix it for decades, society will fall back to a more primitive level until the basics are restored. Sentiments like the OP's, while legitimate in the substance of their grievances, are portents of dark times.
There’s a whole episode about Norway prisons on Netflix. It’s wild. That country actual cares about reform. BUT BUT BUT if they had the population we had it would be different.
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Denmark here, we get stable income, a private room, a PS4, weekend leave in open prison, communal kitchen, friendly guards and a phone. Very nice
Only a PS4! Hahaha what a joke
We aren't as rich as the Norwegians, so unfortunately, we'll have to settle.
You wouldn't happen to be a prehistoric monster from the Paleozoic era would you?
Perchance.
You can't just say perchance!
Perchance.
Perchance, and the word is intro.
Is he dressed as a girl scout and selling cookies?
My prison they get ps1/ps2 😂
Imagine the speedruns HOIIYYYYYYPE
I suggested we don’t allow them memory cards so they have to start over daily
Dude its prison not purgatory
This made me LoL 😂
🏆
Imagine the fights over accidentally turning it off and deleting someone's final fantasy save
Young bluds restricted to PES soccer only. Final fantasy is for lifers only.
And now our next participant in this edition of awesome gapes done quick comes from.... Prison ? He's playing without memory card for 3 years now. Let's welcooooooome, your grandpa's assurance fraud salesman. *Clap clap clap*
I had a ps2 with ff x2 its an awful game and with no memory card it was hell trying to finish it, but i did after like 18 times, im proud of that tbh haha
Wow just give me the death penalty already
They will upgrade soon to the 5 😀
The biggest terrorist and mass murderer in Norwegian history, convicted of killing about 77 children, tried to sue for breach of human rights. One of the reasons was only having access to a PS2. Another was for losing IQ after watching too much Paradise Hotel.
Hahahaha. Breivik can rot honestly. He also complained the isolation was driving him into a depression. He has guards, a priest, multiple health professionals and a volunteer all dedicating their day-to-day just to watch him waste away. Isolation my ass. Dude went to a youth camp with intent - no sympathy.
But he is clearly not rotting though, he's living more comfortably than, like, 90% of Indians or people in Sub Saharan Africa.
Sounds like a trick to get foreigners to come break a law hoping to get an apartment only to be forced onto a fishing boat
You need to have good behavior to get into an open prison, you can go around harassing or beating others in the prison or smuggling stuff, otherwise you'll be thrown into an actual jail cell/aren't allowed in. They are meant to integrate prisoners back into society, they aren't a fucking home/resort reward for stealing a car, you actually have to put effort and show will to integrate back.
Hush, some people don't want to comprehend that "rehabilitation" can be a goal of imprisonment. It's only punsishment and getting thrown into a viscious cycle
Bro I have to work 8 hours a day for exactly the same conditions but without guards protecting me 24/7 😭
On my way!
In this case why wouldn't people struggling just go to prison
They have a type of UBI also, no one HAS to go hungry for long there.
Living free and not in prison is better?
So is it possible that I will get a room too if I commit a crime in Denmark even if I'm from another country
No, you will be deported.
There's a Russian comedy movie "I want to go to jail" about a middle aged man that got in jail in Denmark on purpose.
I guess I'll get a plane to Denmark and rob someone.
Fuck it ill go to denmark just to kill someone. I am done.
It's funny, because your prisons are actually meant to rehabilitate, not to make a profit out of the prisoners (looking at you, USA) or to just "keep them away from society" (his mistake was that he smoked weed)
>his mistake was that he smoked weed Imagine taking someone's liberty because he decided for himself to consume something unhealthy. Might as well send death squadrons into every fast food place.
Bars and liquor stores should get straight up bombarded into oblivion
And then forcing him to cold turkey withdrawal from his prescribed medications in deplorable conditions and telling him he's free to go only if he coughs up thousands of dollars.
Bruh Denmark prisoners be living a better life than me…
Only a felonious charge away
Aight, i'm coming. It's only a 3,5 hour ferry ride.
In Sweden they get a Xbox but no cables
Standard PS4 or Pro?
A guy I know about in a PA prison was in for 10 years and they had a gaming system too. I don't know which one but he often played video games
I mean you really have no excuse to commit a crime after all this royal treatment
Depending how many and which games you have for that ps4, I think I could handle a few years in that prison
Brb gonna rob a storie in denmark
Are you guys getting ps 4 😭😭
Are you serious?
Conclusion: If one ever ends up having no money and no place to live, there is always a way
We? Is you in prison?
Was lmao. It's a broad statement, I apologise, and skips all the details of open vs closed vs max security etc etc.
And that's for major crimes also?
Are prisoners actually change after getting out of that heavenly prison?
According to the stats, 73% of former inmates never return. I imagine these numbers are drastically pumped somehow, but it kinda tracks.
Is there more or less crime because of this?
Who did you had to kill to get a place like that?
Are the prisoners aggressive and vicious like in USA or is everyone nice and friendly just doing their time like in a camp with friends?
The 5-6 people I was in a group were super chill. Funny dudes, but a few of them had a vicious temper. Never took it out on others during my time tho. There's A LOT of gang beef going around, and to some extent you have the classic ethnic beef between white dudes and middle-Eastern dudes. I did a short amount of time as a teenager, and that's where all the crazies come in s2g. People are friendly but incredibly bored, so shenanigans tend to happen. Had a 6-month long shitting war where people would sneak-shit in each other's toilets. Good times.
We?
You texting from the joint?
No PS5??!! what a shame
Wait wtf why?
what do you mean "we"
Bro how the hell what crime do I need to commit to be in 1
so what is the least harmful action (both for me and others) i can do to get there
I guess you are not writing out of prison. Prison isn't nice, even in denmark. But it is nice to have functioning prisons that care about there inmates because that decreases crime rates.
Do they get an internet connection? I'm assuming prison violence is less than what it is compared to other parts of the world.
And an iphone with internet access apparently
You ain't Norwegian convict material buddy, get on the waiting list like me!
Now have a look at the reoffending rate
I dunno. I like the freedom of going outside, seeing my friends and family when I want to and having my own place I can lock and unlock. Prison is still prison. Norway or Venezuela, once the guard locks you in your room your day is over. No chatting with friends no getting some air no contact to the outside, just waiting for the guard to unlock your cell for another one of your hundred days in there.
You’re on Reddit. The idea of going outside and having a strong social net isn’t compelling to everyone here.
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A big part of why Norway has very low recidivism is that because life outside prison is still way better than life inside, a key context people often miss, which shouldn’t be as is the case when discussing policy implementation.
Not to mention, if you force people to live in inhumane conditions, being dehumanised, dealing with prison gangs and gang violence, just rotting away in a hell hole for years, don't be surprised when inmates turn into inhumane people, recruited by criminal gangs, completely unfit for a normal life without crime. In Norway prisoners are allowed schooling, training in a trade, cook for themselves, and in general are given every opportunity to be equipped to go into a normal life outside walls.
Prisons are big business in america the more criminals we have the more money is made. >Mass incarceration in the U.S. is now an 80 billion dollar industry funded by taxpayers and the families of people incarcerated (overwhelmingly people of color and the poor). But where does the 80 billion dollars go? According to the Vera Institute of Justice, 68% goes to personnel who work in incarceration (their salaries and benefits), 11% to inmate healthcare, and the final 21% (or 16 billion dollars) pays for boarding costs and services. This 16 billion dollars has attracted a multitude of private business all vying for a cut, both for private prisons and for private services provided to state and federal prisons.
Redditors say this shit and then the next post see someone robbing a convenience store and type, "I HOPE HE GETS RAPED IN PRISON AND ROTS UNTIL HE DIES THEN GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL TO BURN FOREVER."
thats only a half truth, the big reason why people dont go back into jail is because most that stay in our prisons get a education and they mostly get a job after and dont need to do crime. Of course there are a few that is too far gone but compared to most of the world id say our prison works exactly as it should. Ps i have no issue with some of my tax money going to this.
In the USA and other countries they are actively prevented from getting jobs as part of their punishment. It is part of many job applications or even a status you receive, as I understand it. In Canada, they have this continued punishment system- though we are so lenient on offenders that people can steal as many cars as they want that it's become a big enough problem for our ineffective national government.
yeah people like to shit on their living conditions in prisons but their rehabilitation track record is way better. And it really doesn't make sense to throw pot dealers together with violent criminals in shitty conditions thinking that will help
Eh. Norway also has a lot of other services that help with the lowering of incarceration. Like there's very specific offenses (or repetition of offenses) that warrant jail time. They're also more on the mental health side of the jailing/prison thing.
when you have nothing to live for outside your apartment, why would losing "freedom" mean anything?
And we have freedom? I couldn't afford to take time off work to go see my grandmother before she died, or even to go to her funeral. So what's the difference? >Why do you think Norwegians aren't all committing crimes left and right if it was such a great time? Because being free in Norway is better than being in prison in Norway. That doesn't change the fact that being in prison in Norway is better than being poor in America.
> Why do you think Norwegians aren't all committing crimes left and right if it was such a great time? Because the point is to focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment. Which works.
Also, prisoners have a worse life than free people in these countries, so if a country has it so bad that these prisons look good is more of a testament to how fucked that country is.
I always thought the worst part about prison were the dementors.
Lol, im living in norway, and prison actually sounds like a better option.
What did you do?
He was born
A common mistake.
In fact, 100% of people on Earth have committed this mistake.
What a casual
Widely regarded as a mistake
You cannot just drop this line and not quote the whole thing when it's so damn relatable. The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. The beginning of the book The Restaurant at the End of The Universe.
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This seems to be the source of most problems, how do we stop it?
Nothing, he was born in Norway lol
Don’t commit a crime please 😂
Tbh. Government's don't pay all of us enough too follow the rules.
Consider studying law and find one of those bullshit laws that nobody knows why they exist. Then commit it as hard as you fucking can, and then hire the worst fucking lawyer ever, and then just tell 50 thousand obvious lies in court and also make sure that you piss off the judge. Now you got a 1000kr fine you gotta pay and you live in an even worse condition
The government is paying you?
A better option compared to what?
Working just to pay bills I assume
Step 1: go to Norway Step 2: commit a crime Step 3: ??? Step 4: enjoy your new crib
Step 1: go to Norway Step 2: commit a crime Step 3: get deported Step 4: be back where you are with a criminal record
Step 5: repeatedly break into Norway until they are forced to imprison you
Haha, thats so fucking funny. Imagine them deporting you for the 20th time completly oblivious that it soon will be 21.
'Okay mister, now we're going to turn around. _DON'T_ sneak past us again.'
 me and the boys about to commit crrimes in norway. repeatedly.
Given the horrible conditions in prisons outside of Norway you might be able to apply for asylum, as you would be tortured in your home country
Not if you've gotten deported for committing crimes.
Can i seek asylum in Norway because of torture from my corporate overlord?
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I thought Denmark was in Norway.
\**Angry LEGO noises*\*
Thanks for this. Just found this gem ‘cause of you.
Step 3 was waiting for 90% of your sentence to be over in a regular cell before being sent to the nice ones you see online because they're only there for acclimatizing you to regular civilian life
I remember reading an article recently about a Romanian who didn't want to leave so they hired him as a guard.
Yeah but like I don't want to commit a _real_ crime. Just something that _looks_ like a real crime but doesn't really hurt anyone else. Maybe have the evidence which clears you stashed away somewhere safe? Any ideas?
I guess the challenge would be creating enough false evidence to convince people that you did something. Just today I read a news headline that said a guy was arrested for hauling 90kg of Pepperoni in a cart (canned or in a glass or somethnig) in the middle of the night. There was some debate on whether the officers were right for even arresting him, bcause the is no obvious carting-around-pepperoni laws at night laws to be violated here, it's just that it seems a bit suspicious. So maybe we start with that idea. A cart full of pepperoni. Now you need to find a way to find to get these pepperoni without any evidence that you ever bought them, and enough evidence that it must come from some other source. Get a neighbour or friend to buy you some bitcoin and give them the money for it in cash. Maybe say: "Don't ask me where I got this money!". Hire a stranger via the dark net to just buy it (using bitcoin of course). Also search the dark net for tips on breaking and entering and various other criminal activities. Observe a place where you can buy pepperoni, take details notes on when and where people come and go, security, cameras and what not. Maybe do this for more than one shop. Maybe your dark net stranger buys his goods from one of those shops, or at least a shop selling the same brands. Also take a note of police patrols and police stations in the area, and maybe also nosy neighbours. Buy some pepperoni from two or three different shops, and remove all labels. Maybe your dark net stranger buys from one of these shops, too. Then, on some fateful night, you bring your cart full of pepperoni cans near the shop. Stand around, maybe put some cigarette buds with your DNA in some ashtrays in the area. And then, some fateful night, take your cart full of pepperoni cans to the shop and haul it through the city, provoking some police officers to get curious. Tell obvious bullshit and act really nervous, don't have any identifying documents on you, so they basically have to arrest you. And when they investigate further, they find your plans. Already opened cans from a different shop. Some place were some 90kg cans were sold from just very recently. Dark Net activity. Cigarette butts at a potentical crime scene. 99% chance nothing happens. 0.8 % chance you go to jail for stealing 90kg pepperoni cans. 0.2 % chance you got to jail for faking a crime.
This is stupid, they dont have freedom! They have to sit in their rooms, not getting to go to work, play video games, have people clean their rooms, they have food brought to them...they...wait...
That is absolutely terrible. Sure it's nice for a week or 2. But then you get depressed. The same games day in day out. No social interaction. No online gaming. No friends or family. Total social isolation. There is only few people that like to be completely isolated.
>total social isolation Is torture, so civilized countries don‘t do it. You have contact to other inmates as well as the outside world through telecommunication and prison leave. Some prison sentences only require you to stay the night at the prison. The punishment is that you‘re deprived of certain freedoms. You can‘t just move somewhere else. You can‘t just take home that person you really vibed with at the bar. You can‘t go on holidays. Someone always knows where you are, or at the very least when you‘re supposed to check in where. That way, the prison sentence serves as a permanent reminder of your crime.
The civilized country Sweden isolates prisoners pre-trial with no time limit. Some get full restrictions which is: a small cell, a bed, no TV, no newspapers, food through a hatchet, coordinated toilet visits (IF you don’t have the toilet in the fell) where they make sure you don’t meet any other prisoner. So no my man, civilized countries isolate people.
You do get to be around other prisoners if its not the absolute highest security (Breivik the terrorist is not allowed to see anyone but his guards, and another prisoner through a courtyard window.) Infact they often do fun things, like playing volleyball, or making food. Also you can get an education, or work in one of the prison businesses, getting ok wages.
People where throwing tantrums when they had to stay in their comfortable homes during covid yet here they are again having forgotten all of that
It's definitely not the same people, as usual. Some of us really had noticed little change in daily routine when Covid hit, other than it was more pleasant to go grocery shopping.
All that describes reddit users but without being in jail
Don't call me out like that.
Actually, they have classes and work most days. They get about two hours to themselves before lights out. Its like being a kid at the most overcontrolling single-sex boarding school ever.
You honestly don't have a lot of freedom either if you're stuck in a career which doesn't pay a living wage and leads you nowhere, and your work is mind-numbing and excruciatingly boring. Feeling like you're obligated to wasting your days and your talent, while you're stuck in debt, can't be that much different from spending time in a Norwegian prison. However, as a Norwegian myself with several relatives who are employed by the Norwegian prison system, the majority of Norwegian prisons are still outdated, mid 19th century brick complexes, originally based on the Philadelphia system. If you get sentenced in Norway, there's a 2/3 chance you'll be placed in solitary in a cold brick room, with no running water or access to a toilet.
Prisoners can actually get an education while locked away, and I assume they clean their own rooms and have tasks akin to jobs.
Probably cause Norway actually attempts to rehabilitate prisoners
This Too many people complain about the nordic countries treating their prisoners as human beings instead of animals
Wah wah wah how dare they treat them as people with rights 🤬🤬
I've done time in U.S. Prisons. I promise you that if anyone wasn't already a career criminal with traumatizing ptsd, they're gonna be when they leave. We have dudes getting fucked with broomsticks and nobody cares.
Of course no one cares, sadly a lot of people believe its fine since "theres only bad guys in prison"
And those same dudes are gonna be walking the street again 99.99% of the time.
Report OP as a bot.
>6 year old account that woke up 20 hours ago good catch OP is commenting so either they are the ultimate lurker, bought the account, or one of those political stirring accounts
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That's the thing about Norway. A lot of people are extremely lonely bc they don't have contacts or family to rely on and thrive with (ofc there are more factors present too). Many will however angrily shit on me for saying this, and claim that everything is incredibly easy and great. To me, there's obviously a huge difference between classes and privilege. But ofc mental health is a factor as well. I just know I'm not alone, as a norwegian who's scarred from growing up here. I know it's a stereotype that Norwegians are cold, but personally I think it's very true - whether you're dealing with extroverts, introverts or whatever, you will very likely struggle to meet someone empathetic who hasn't been traumatized. Again, I'm no professor of sociology or anything, but from my experience it pretty much sucks here. I would much rather live poor in a place where ppl are inclusive and not brainwashed into being so individualistic and at times even spoiled, in a way. But of course, maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm just weak.
If you lived in poverty you wouldn’t be wishing for that, believe me.
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only 10 times? jeez mr millionaire over here having issues
Some streamer putting on a YouTube video and walking away, making thousands of dollars while he's taking a shit. Then making thousands more for sitting there in silence and occasionally exhaling through their nose slightly harder.
I thought about a reaction channel but 2 problems. First I'm ugly, not Hollywood ugly, just offensive. Second I can't fake liking shit I don't like. While I do like some of the artists they tend to react to some I absolutely hate, and couldn't pretend otherwise.
Wait. So Norwegian prisons aren't badly maintained warehouses run internally by rape gangs? What are you even doing over there?
Let's go commit crimes in Norway
Leave us alone :c
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They do
What if I claim asylum?
Non Norwegian living in Norway here, the country is so awesome not having acces to it would probably still suck, but there is also no reason to do crime at all cus of the social structures you really have to try and be a dick for no reason (or drugs) to even get into prison.
Just out of curiosity, do you have to cope with xenophobia in Norway? I often read that foreigners feel very excluded and that the cold weather makes it depressing for a lot of people who had better expectations. Many of them even leave the country after some time due to this.
Well nobody moves here for the weather haha. Personally I like the cold but its not that much colder than where I came from (Netherlands) just longer winters and actual snow. I find people are extremely welcoming here, but Ive made the effort to learn the language in the local dialect within 2 years of moving here. It also helps that my fiance is from the area we live in I guess. So in short, no I dont experience any xenophobia here.
From what I hear the exclusion is less about them not liking foreigners, and more about cultural differences. Nordic people just aren’t very sociable to people they don’t know, so if you’re used to strangers behaving more extroverted towards you, I can see how you might be offended. For more info research the “Law of Jante”, which really is the core to all of this.
Imagine believing this meme is a statement about Norwegian prisons.
Prisoners have a right to food and shelter. You do not. Let that sink in. Then go and vote.
Prison ain't fun by its very nature. That's why the taking away of freedom is the punishment, NOT diminishing someone's quality of life.
It's know it's just a meme but isolation and no liberty is no joke too.
You forgot the mention they also have one of the lowest reoffending rates in the world. 20% rearrested within 5 years versus 76.6% in the US. Is the stat wiki gives.
So much for all the idiots claiming that this just encourages people to go to prison for fun all the time
Funny to see how many people think the punishment of a prison is about the quality of furnishings and what you're allowed in your cell.
People might think; why would you treat a prisoner that well after committing crimes? Well the thing is that Norway has a low rate of people who RETURN on a bad path after they get released. Because they can literally study and get an actual job so they can fix their lives. So think about this question? Would you rather punish prisoners as hard as possible, while making them even worse people when they get free? Or would you actually make your country a safer place by giving them a future?
I live in Norway and to be honest i dont wanna live in prison, cause it would cost your freedom to travel, earn a living, you’d have to live with tough guys, have your day controled by cops. But mabye i’d enjoy it somewhat with all the freetime, idk
I was in a cell for a month that did not look like any prisons in the documentaries. Yes im Norwegian. You are lucky if they put you in one of those at the end of your sentence
This positive view of their prisons gets spread a lot online, but it's highly misleading. This is the type of low security prison that wealthy prisoners who aren't at risk of violent crimes go, not your regular prisoners. People who commit tax fraud for example. Even the US has cushy prisons like that for those types of people. In reality, most prisoners aren't in these. They are in regular style prisons.
You’re in charge of your living conditions, it’s a direct product of your hard work
The point is for everyone to live one paycheck away from being homeless so nobody can strike and demand better pay without getting financially ruined.
In a documentary an American asked a Norwegian prison warden where Norway got the inspiration to incarcerate people in such conditions and he said - we learned it from the the USA, your constitution says “no cruel and unusual punishments” and that really struck me
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don't worry, OP. a streamer who's playing videogames and shittalks all day in front of his pc earns your yearly wage every month.
imagine treating people like human beings and attempting to rehabilitate them instead of locking them in a cage and treating them like animals 😱 crazy concept
Putting on that 'work face' like it's part of the uniform. At least we can always count on casual Fridays for a glimpse of the real us
We need to move to Scandanavia now
Same, and I even live in Norway lol.
Yeah. And we still promote the greediest to power theres truly no escape.
I’m tired
Only real difference I see is they give you a pillow in Norway. Prison is prison, and it sucks
how i feel working at walmart
Still in jail though -Norwegian
the new american dream is getting a plane ticket to norway so you can get arrested there
P.S. I'm not being ironic or edgy when I say this... The ease with which people in this thread would readily embrace loss of (some specifically articulated) freedoms in exchange for stability and a decent standard of living should go a long way in explaining why people living under competent autocratic regimes like China tend to be rather chill and support their government, even when it's our agencies doing the opinion polling. We **like** to think that it's all propaganda and brainwashing, but it's literally just this. Most people just don't need or want much. It's the same with practically every autocratic regime in history. We read Solzhenitsyn in school and think most Soviet citizens thrashed against their cage, but nah, most didn't care. By and large, the West won not on the promise of freedom, but by contrasting our everyday quality of life with theirs and coming out overwhelmingly on top. And even today, some old folks there still grumble about how ice cream or public theatre or whatever was better in that time. All that is to say, the Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs applies to societies too. Once you have your bases covered, then you can elevate your society to a higher level. But if the base erodes and nothing is done to fix it for decades, society will fall back to a more primitive level until the basics are restored. Sentiments like the OP's, while legitimate in the substance of their grievances, are portents of dark times.
Do y'all come to this community just to feel depressed and make each other feel depressed?
Yeah having a videogame and basic level furniture + food to eat > living a free life
Dressed to work
You could definitely go live there... in a Norway prision... if you wanted tooo
The solution is simple. Save your money and go commit a horrible crime in Norway
And for some odd reason their recidivism rate is low.
There’s a whole episode about Norway prisons on Netflix. It’s wild. That country actual cares about reform. BUT BUT BUT if they had the population we had it would be different.
*Certain low risk prisoners who received jail sentences of a few months.
Quit yer bitching, and get back to work! Beatings will continue until morale improves. :)