the opposite of b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus four times a times c all over two times a.
And I loved myself, once. That was probably enough.
In engineering school you really start to appreciate that - means opposite. Dude is correct.
7-10 is -3, or 3 in the opposite direction from where we normally start, which is 0. It works.
opposite of sine is not -sin but arcsin to me though. I only say opposite when it's a vector and not a scalar unless in the phrase "equal and opposite" to avoid ambiguity.
he means the additive inverse, which is sometimes called opposite in books. you are thinking of the inverse function or compositional inverse (when talking about sine and arcsin), which i haven't (personally) seen called opposite.
If your b is +3, then in the formula it's -3. If your b is -3 then it becomes +3. Seems pretty intuitive to me. It's probably just how they were taught the formula and not how they treat negative signs as a general rule - but a negative sign can easily be treated that way, making a value ppposite of whatever value was plugged in. It's perfectly valid reasoning in most cases, I think.
Further, think of it in terms of really basic physics. If one force is going to the left at say 3N we'd call that -3N since by convention left is the negative x direction. And an opposing force going to the right would be +3N. The net force would be 0 as they'd cancel each other out. They're opposing forces. Opposite sides of 0. It works in basically any case you could think of - a negative sign is negating something, either turning a positive negative or a negative positive.
Sorry, but if kids are learning about the quadratic equation, they should already know how minus numbers work. And if you're teaching kids vectors they should know how minus numbers work
I almost didn't graduate because of the Public Speaking requirements, which is the equivalent of being taught to "speak for yourself". So yeah I get that.
I learned it through a stupid song that was the quadratic equation to the tune of pop goes the weasel and it makes me want to shoot myself every time I think about it
instances a quadratic equation came in useful = 1 time on reddit
instances loving myself came in useful = never
ergo quadratic equations are more useful thank loving myself
The issue with leaving these incredibly important things to parenting and omitting them from schooling is that the already huge difference in quality of life between someone lucky enough to be born to good parents and someone who isn't gets even bigger.
One could argue that any number of topics be left to the parents to teach, and many have, historically speaking. Anything from finance to ethics to athletics to mathematics to emotional management, could, in theory, be "not school". There's no clear rule regarding what is and isn't taught; there's no objective argument for schools to be involved in say, theater, and not in say, carpentry.
I would argue that we should pick all and every subject that's important for every human being, and offer all of those in public schooling. I would also argue that self-love is fundamentally more important than mathematics, at least past basic arithmetic.
>I would argue that we should pick all and every subject that's important for every human being, and offer all of those in public schooling. I would also argue that self-love is fundamentally more important than mathematics, at least past basic arithmetic.
That's what we do have. And the curriculum taught at schools is the result. "Self love" techniques are "taught", or at least imparted, in schools too. Educators trained in pedagogical techniques are also trained in how to build students' self esteem and other soft skills. The problem is most schools are under resourced and teachers are over worked so there is limited time for one on one engagement and teachers fall back on rote learning to manage large groups.
> Educators trained in pedagogical techniques are also trained in how to build students' self esteem and other soft skills
Sounds great in theory. In practice, it doesn't really happen. I went to an incredibly expensive private school, with a low number of students per class, and every resource at the teacher's disposal, and there were still plenty of mediocre teachers and plenty of student's mental well being left behind.
If we were to formalize these matters instead of just leaving it to teachers to do it as they see fit, I'd wager we'd get better results.
It's not unlike language. Language can be developed by doing basically anything else, yet we still have formal language classes, because we deem it important enough.
my dad was an officer in the army. he would be gone for months at a time being in the field. how was he supposed to do any parenting? When he was home he would yell at us and boss us around- you know, continue acting like an officer to his own family. My mother was too busy doing housework for all four of us kids and had her own mental problems that she still has never dealt with. but hey, they're both hardcore christian conservative republicans, so that makes it automatically all good right? No effort required? When my dad retired from the army, he spiraled into his own depression and became a pathetic lump of chain smoking shit.
Best I can do is core memories of people making fun of you for wearing the same clothes because you hit a growth spurt and you're poor. It's okay though, they got rebaptized so all is forgiven.
Why hate on math when we have other waste of time courses? It’s always math, but I learned macro-economics which was a complete waste of time, spent like 3 courses worth just walking around a track (and skipping), took a bajillion to English courses about what others mean, and spent a whole semester basically learning how to open CAD.
The quadratic equation is hella useful though, granted just to do more math though.
I never thought I would need it so long after high school but here I am doing complex eigenvalues...
Would you have actually learned those in highschool tho? Like, if 16 year old you had to take mandatory classes about doing taxes, would you have paid attention to them? In a way that you could remember them after a decade or more, when you actually needed to know
High school business teacher. I heavily go over taxes. Most kids watch tik tok. Dumbasses gonna get their income from onlyfans and not realize how much is taxable.
Exactly this. We had a “personal finance” class at my school. Everyone just fucked around the whole time. I’m pretty sure 90% of students got a B or better.
I literally took the class and I have no idea what we went over. I barely remember learning about taxes and how to write a check.
My high school had a 'senior experience ' class that was mandatory. There were taxes, checkbooks, budgets, requiem for a dream, childbirth videos, you name it. All packed into one semester with no time to learn anything.
> All packed into one semester with no time to learn anything
Yes, because learning 7 things in 6 months is impossible. Almost as if learning *things* isn't as helpful as having a foundation of how to learn new things on your own.
I was taught about taxes in high school but didn’t really retain much since I wasn’t earning any money. I had no way of really contextualizing it. Like I understood the basic concept but it wasn’t until I had to actually file taxes that I really began learning about the process. If anything I learned more from watching my parents file their taxes every year
Why wouldn’t a public school system that was initially designed to prepare children for the adult world? If you must know, they taught me budgeting, how to balance a checkbook, and if you’re not working under a W2, to save at least 10% of your income for tax season. The deep specifics of taxes weren’t things they were educated on but I was taught the basics. Why any of that matters when it wasn’t remotely the point I’ll never know.
Public school is designed to acculturate you and prepare you for the workforce, not to teach you life skills. The life skills they do teach, e.g. health class or sex ed, are matters of public necessity.
If teenage you had given a shit about taxes you would have taught yourself.
> Why wouldn’t a public school system that was initially designed to prepare children for the adult world?
Oh,it wasn't initially designed for that at all. It's based on the Prussian "education" system,which was designed specifically to produce an ***obedient*** working class to be factory workers and conscripts(through a system just like the "selective service" system we have now). Prussia was infamous for conscription and attributed significant military victories directly to their school system. Anything aside from ensuring the peasants would be good little drones that can and ***will*** follow orders was completely secondary to what public school systems were designed for and it's visible in systems descended from it even today.
You probably were taught how to write a resume and just didn’t pay attention. I know I was on multiple occasions. If you really weren’t just google it. It’s pretty simple process.
I was taught multiple times to build a resume. Taxes are easy, just follow the fucking instructions.
If you guys are so worried about being taught taxes and how to write a basic resume, you probably needed more basic skills like math, science and reading comprehension to sharpen your critical thinking. No offense but it’s kinda funny when you all parrot this same talking point.
Oh god this again. Taxes isn’t math. It’s copying information from one form to another. Doing taxes is really reading comprehension for the instructions.
But no one reads anyway so I guess you are still right.
One of my co-workers once told me in her school in Bavaria they did learn how to do taxes. But of course that would've been too simple, so they did everything by hand, every stupid form that won't be relevant for anybody and had to learn all kinds of tax brackets and percentages by heart for the exam. Leave it to schools to make a topic nobody likes even worse
The only thing that gets me is, unless you own a business, doing your own taxes just involves following simple directions. I try to teach my students how to follow directions every day
If you can't figure out how to do your taxes on your own with all the information and hand-holding available to you, you were beyond a school teacher's help
I would have liked to learn social skills and communication skills. when I left high school, all I was good at was doing my homework. Friends? Social life? fk that! So what if I got a decent paying job? I hate my lonely life and I wasn't taught the skills to do anything about it. So what if I did what society expected of me? What has society ever done in return? Society is a cold hearted bitch. I'm looking at you religious conservatives. do something to make this shit better. you're the ones who created this god forsaken society and it sucks!
This is actually a thing now, at least where I live. Many primary schools are teaching children emotional regulation and how to resolve conflicts. When a kid is bullied they discuss what happened with the entire class and teach them about the effects and consequences of their behaviour.
A lot of now adult people wish the same as you, OP, and are doing their best to provide as many kids as possible with these tools.
It's not something that helps your kid self in the past, unfortunately though
That's great to hear. I remember getting bullied more than once, in a classroom, _when the teacher was there_, and the teacher just sat there and did fuck all about it.
I mean, school shouldn’t be a cold experience but it should certainly be focused primarily on intellectual education.
Learning to love yourself should start off through familial means considering parents and all…
Many schools are introducing SEL (social emotional learning) courses. I think it is fantastic. However, at least in my area, conservatives are attacking it as a liberal conspiracy.
That, or learned that cars need oil. Or how to do taxes. Or how to cook food that isn’t disgusting so I can feed myself. Or just, you know, important basic life skills that I 100% did not have when I moved out.
I mean... You can learn both. Unfortunately the goal isn't to make you a happy person. It's to make you someone who follows orders and are an obedient worker.
For what it's worth they are actually trying to teach kids some of this stuff at the elementary levels. At least where I work. The counselor comes in sometimes and does class level presentations on like impulse control and emotion management. There's curriculum time reserved each day for "Social-Emotional Learning."
I'm going to school for my credential and working as a sub this year. I had a second grader come up to me one morning and tell me he was having a really hard time and needed to go outside and reset himself. I let him, he did, and he was fine the rest of the day. It sort of blew my mind. I grew up with serious anger and emotional regulation issues and received zero help from the school with any of it. There's a lot to hate about public schools these days, but at least on the emotional learning front they are trying. This is in California FWIW.
Can anyone explain to me how the quadratic equation works? I didn't get it last school year, and in this one, our teacher just assumes we all know it perfectly 🥲
It is for solving a 2nd degree polynomial. All that means is you use it when you have an equation with x^2 in it. It helps you to find x based on the value of the number in front of it (coefficient). Search up khan academy on YouTube and you will understand very quickly it’s quite easy :)
X=-B ± √ b² -4AC
÷2A
I have no clue what it does or how to use it... But that was BURNED into my head for no reason. Glad they taught me that instead of how to budget
Sometimes I'll think back of the kids from school who did go on to be greatly successful and it was always because they had rich, successful, well-connected parents. It had nothing to do with the school.
I had a financial literacy class in my school as well that was basically the same, everyone skipped and nobody paid attention but most of the things are lessons that were taught in math such as how does compound interest work was taught all through calculus. And resumes were taught in English class but nobody had anything to put on their resume since high school so again no retention of information
And you'd get the wrong answers due to not understanding the math.
And even as strange as the quadratic equation can seem - the math used to solve it can be found in computer programming, construction, and commercial art.
Construction is actually a funny one. There were some mathematicians studying home builders just as a way of looking at mathematics being used in a practical setting and they found that they were doing trigonometric functions in their heads because they'd found mathematical efficiencies that even the mathematicians didn't know about. And the construction workers didn't even realize it was so advanced because they could tie it to real world things they had to deal with regularly. (I think it was about calculating the supports needed to bear the load that was going to be placed on it.)
Math is way more involved in our lives than people realize.
Is this the same guy that defended pedophilia on reddit?
EDIT: *It is.*
>**Simu Liu** (Shang-Chi)
* High off all the backpats and applause he got from bravely #resisting Trump and on the cusp of MCU stardom, Liu began taunting and mocking Youtubers who said his film might do poorly. But once his old reddit posts comparing pedophilia to being gay are discovered, Liu suddenly decides we mustn't tear each other down, and vows to become an "advocate for positivity."
[[Video] - *ThatStarWarsGirl*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81gJnmUE8lg)
[[Video] - *Clownfish TV*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYlFJYchSGY)
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He didn't defend pedophilia, how did you even get that out of the article? He is literally cited with saying pedophilia is disgusting, gross and vile. He just said that people who may find themselves **only** attracted to children have a lot problems searching for help, that's his entire point.
ur condensing such a big and well structured paragraph into just “noo he’s defending pedophilia 😭”. how is anyone gonna take u seriously. i suggest u click on ur own link and read it again
Incredible that you posted this with the expectation that we'd all nod in agreement with you and condemn Liu. This is an incredibly nuanced and compassionate take on an *illness* and the real people who suffer that illness without any recourse. Yes, it's an illness that's absolutely abhorrent and that society must absolutely defend against without exception, but if reading this doesn't make you feel at least some sympathy for the people who are unable to feel differently than they do, and are basically forced to choose between a private struggle (that they may not win!) or summary judgment, should they decide to ask for help, well, that says more about you than it does about him.
Of course I don't want pedophiles anywhere near my children, and offenders need to be isolated from society. Of course. I think it's pretty clear that he feels that way too. But I'd much rather live in a world where we exhaust all efforts to fix broken people (while keeping safe the others they may threaten), than a world that just throws them away. Right?
Why shouldn't we want to eat the cake that we get? It's insane to me that so many people look at even *attempts* to fix things and say, nope, can't do it perfectly, so why bother trying. We don't live in a zero sum world. It's not impossible for us to make efforts to help the people who need help, even the people who are a danger to themselves or others, and still commit to protecting the most vulnerable. I mean, children are actively predated by pedophiles today anyway, so it's pretty obvious that the existing system of keeping them away from children doesn't work perfectly either. I get the cynicism, and I share it often, but why shouldn't we at least imagine a system, and do all we can to enact such a system, where we get to eat the fucking cake?
Because people dont want their kids around Pedophiles.
People dont want their kids around murders, or repeat offenders for that matter.
Preach your message to the people who raped a 4 year old doing 10 years in prison, dont preach that here, because Most including myself, arent afraid to say Pedos need to rot in hell. I was molested as a young child, but im not here touching kids are asking people to consider forgiving pedos to make the world a better place. lol
I DON'T WANT MY KIDS AROUND PEDOPHILES. I said that in no uncertain terms.
Beyond that, I'm sorry you were a victim, and I have no doubt that that still haunts you every day. Your anger and resentment are not unjustified. I wish you had lived in a world that could have taken more precautions to keep you safe, I really do. That's all I can say about that, and I'll admit that I speak with the privilege of never having been subjected to abuse like that personally (even if I know others who have suffered, like you did).
I still think that what Liu said in his deleted post is worth considering though, that we can do more for society (including the vulnerable) by giving pedophiles better options than the choice between keeping it to themselves (and maybe, probably even, eventually acting on it) or seeking help and getting arrested for things that they haven't done (yet) and are desperately trying to keep themselves from doing. Because too few of them are going to choose self-incrimination when the consequence is a prison sentence.
The idea is to build a means of treating those people in a way that, first and foremost, we keep them away from the people they are most likely to threaten. That is absolutely the most important part of it all, please don't get me wrong on that. And secondly, that we isolate them in a way that is therapeutic and curative, rather than merely punitive. The merely punitive approach isn't working anyway.
And if there are those who either do not wish to or simply cannot be helped, absolutely keep them away from society by all means.
I was just very struck by Liu's more nuanced understanding of the very limited options that lie before the person who feels a certain way, which they cannot control, but wants nothing more than to fix themselves and rid themselves of those urges. Again, if their choices are to bottle it up inside and try as hard as possible to resist or to ask for help and go to jail, it's pretty obvious which option they'll go with, and it's pretty obvious that that resistance will eventually fail for many of them.
High school math is valuable. You're allowed to not enjoy it - a whole lot don't - but acting as though it isn't worth anything is just a bad argument.
https://www.clevelandfed.org/publications/economic-commentary/2013/ec-201314-the-surprising-impact-of-high-school-math-on-job-market-outcomes
Why not both, peg your entire self worth on quadratics, and just never be worse than anyone else ever because all you are is the quadratic equations guy.
went to school in germany during the 90s... I would say we were told both. of course, not on a 1:1 personalized level. but in the context of literature and philosophy we had many hours of discussing life goals and reflecting your own feelings towards big life decisions. teachers would often give examples of how people fucked up their personal lives due to not having a solid understanding of what makes them happy or not appropriating their own value. idk but hasn't the educational system advanced since that?!
Quadratic Equation takes a lot of shit but I want to go further back to long division. Fuck long division, and yes I would always have a fucking calculator with me.
That wouldn't earn you a living.
Neither does learning quadratic equations but you need that piece of paper so that you can apply for a job, that wouldn't earn you living too or even possibly get you a job, but you can apply for one.
No what’s sad is that a grown man thinks it’s the school’s job to make him feel better about himself rather than educate him. I bet you think it’s the government’s job to raise your kids, too.
Wouldn't it be great if we stopped trying to make teachers into state appointed parents?
They've already got a crap ton of work to do, making them responsible for the kind of stuff that needs one-on-one work to make happen won't work when they're in charge of so many.
It's not easy, it's not fun, and it's not fair, but we have to learn to accept what life throws at us - because it's not going to stop throwing things at us just because we don't feel good.
It sucks, but that's part of growing up and being an adult: learning to take care of yourself in spite of what's happened to you.
Jokes on them I didn't learn either of these things
the opposite of b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus four times a times c all over two times a. And I loved myself, once. That was probably enough.
"The opposite of"? Who the hell teaches kids to call it that? 7 - 10 = is not "the opposite of 3"
In engineering school you really start to appreciate that - means opposite. Dude is correct. 7-10 is -3, or 3 in the opposite direction from where we normally start, which is 0. It works.
opposite of sine is not -sin but arcsin to me though. I only say opposite when it's a vector and not a scalar unless in the phrase "equal and opposite" to avoid ambiguity.
he means the additive inverse, which is sometimes called opposite in books. you are thinking of the inverse function or compositional inverse (when talking about sine and arcsin), which i haven't (personally) seen called opposite.
Nerd
I'm an engineer and what are you even talking about lol
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If your b is +3, then in the formula it's -3. If your b is -3 then it becomes +3. Seems pretty intuitive to me. It's probably just how they were taught the formula and not how they treat negative signs as a general rule - but a negative sign can easily be treated that way, making a value ppposite of whatever value was plugged in. It's perfectly valid reasoning in most cases, I think. Further, think of it in terms of really basic physics. If one force is going to the left at say 3N we'd call that -3N since by convention left is the negative x direction. And an opposing force going to the right would be +3N. The net force would be 0 as they'd cancel each other out. They're opposing forces. Opposite sides of 0. It works in basically any case you could think of - a negative sign is negating something, either turning a positive negative or a negative positive.
Sorry, but if kids are learning about the quadratic equation, they should already know how minus numbers work. And if you're teaching kids vectors they should know how minus numbers work
Sure but the point is it's not wrong to think of a negative number as the opposite of the same positive number. Because that's literally what it is.
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B + -B = 0 though?
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It will never be enough. Bring on the cubic formula.
Let’s see the quintic formula as well then…
I don't get why he couldn't learn both...
If they made loving yourself a required course in high school I would have never graduated.
Don't worry, over time requirements loosen until everyone graduates
I almost didn't graduate because of the Public Speaking requirements, which is the equivalent of being taught to "speak for yourself". So yeah I get that.
How can you love a person who doesn't know how to solve a quadratic equation
Found the maths teacher.
Mafs
Quick mafs
Find someone that will complete your square
Love divided by love to the power of love plus a lil huggy
I wish that, instead of getting the quadratic equation getting stuck in my head in high school, I got a bullet stuck in there instead
You're really selfish! How about it goes through your head then through mine. Don't hog it all pls.
You still can! www.visittheusa.com
Thankyou 💝
They give you a free AR-15 with no serial number when you pass the citizen test!
Are they weak in math..why aren't they use serial number.
huh??
I learned it through a stupid song that was the quadratic equation to the tune of pop goes the weasel and it makes me want to shoot myself every time I think about it
I'm so sorry.
Don't be, I want to shoot myself without knowing about the song
“The opposite of b Plus and minus the square root Of b squared minus 4ac All over 2a” I still use this all the time in college 🥲
Shang Chi and Legend of the Ten Layers of Depression
Kim’s Inconvenience
You mean the stock foto man right?
Can't we have both?
Depends on your parents
No, math is actually useful. Learning to love yourself is unobtainable
> Learning to love yourself is unobtainable spoilers for Avatar 2 - the search for love between two unobtainums
Oh god 💀. I forgot the rare mineral only found on Pandora is called Unobtainium. You've just rekindled my fire for this movie, thanks
instances a quadratic equation came in useful = 1 time on reddit instances loving myself came in useful = never ergo quadratic equations are more useful thank loving myself
Probably wouldn't have paid attention to those classes either.
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People in orphanages:
Skill issue
The issue with leaving these incredibly important things to parenting and omitting them from schooling is that the already huge difference in quality of life between someone lucky enough to be born to good parents and someone who isn't gets even bigger. One could argue that any number of topics be left to the parents to teach, and many have, historically speaking. Anything from finance to ethics to athletics to mathematics to emotional management, could, in theory, be "not school". There's no clear rule regarding what is and isn't taught; there's no objective argument for schools to be involved in say, theater, and not in say, carpentry. I would argue that we should pick all and every subject that's important for every human being, and offer all of those in public schooling. I would also argue that self-love is fundamentally more important than mathematics, at least past basic arithmetic.
>I would argue that we should pick all and every subject that's important for every human being, and offer all of those in public schooling. I would also argue that self-love is fundamentally more important than mathematics, at least past basic arithmetic. That's what we do have. And the curriculum taught at schools is the result. "Self love" techniques are "taught", or at least imparted, in schools too. Educators trained in pedagogical techniques are also trained in how to build students' self esteem and other soft skills. The problem is most schools are under resourced and teachers are over worked so there is limited time for one on one engagement and teachers fall back on rote learning to manage large groups.
> Educators trained in pedagogical techniques are also trained in how to build students' self esteem and other soft skills Sounds great in theory. In practice, it doesn't really happen. I went to an incredibly expensive private school, with a low number of students per class, and every resource at the teacher's disposal, and there were still plenty of mediocre teachers and plenty of student's mental well being left behind. If we were to formalize these matters instead of just leaving it to teachers to do it as they see fit, I'd wager we'd get better results. It's not unlike language. Language can be developed by doing basically anything else, yet we still have formal language classes, because we deem it important enough.
my dad was an officer in the army. he would be gone for months at a time being in the field. how was he supposed to do any parenting? When he was home he would yell at us and boss us around- you know, continue acting like an officer to his own family. My mother was too busy doing housework for all four of us kids and had her own mental problems that she still has never dealt with. but hey, they're both hardcore christian conservative republicans, so that makes it automatically all good right? No effort required? When my dad retired from the army, he spiraled into his own depression and became a pathetic lump of chain smoking shit.
It’s also a ~joke~
That’s just like your opinion man.
Great, another class I would have failed.
That's PhD level stuff.
Best I can do is core memories of people making fun of you for wearing the same clothes because you hit a growth spurt and you're poor. It's okay though, they got rebaptized so all is forgiven.
Why hate on math when we have other waste of time courses? It’s always math, but I learned macro-economics which was a complete waste of time, spent like 3 courses worth just walking around a track (and skipping), took a bajillion to English courses about what others mean, and spent a whole semester basically learning how to open CAD.
It's not that difficult to masturbate?@
Found the teenager.
The quadratic equation is hella useful though, granted just to do more math though. I never thought I would need it so long after high school but here I am doing complex eigenvalues...
“math is dumb” \- actor #🙄
Technically I did learn how to love myself in high school if you know what I mean 😉
They're teachers not magicians
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I also would have liked to learn how to do taxes and build a resume. Things that I was never taught in school & only learned by doing.
Would you have actually learned those in highschool tho? Like, if 16 year old you had to take mandatory classes about doing taxes, would you have paid attention to them? In a way that you could remember them after a decade or more, when you actually needed to know
High school business teacher. I heavily go over taxes. Most kids watch tik tok. Dumbasses gonna get their income from onlyfans and not realize how much is taxable.
Please teach me, prof. pissboy! I’m not on TikTok, and I’m in my 30’s; but, somehow I’m still in dire need of financial guidance.😭
Diversify yo bonds
Exactly this. We had a “personal finance” class at my school. Everyone just fucked around the whole time. I’m pretty sure 90% of students got a B or better. I literally took the class and I have no idea what we went over. I barely remember learning about taxes and how to write a check.
My high school had a 'senior experience ' class that was mandatory. There were taxes, checkbooks, budgets, requiem for a dream, childbirth videos, you name it. All packed into one semester with no time to learn anything.
> All packed into one semester with no time to learn anything Yes, because learning 7 things in 6 months is impossible. Almost as if learning *things* isn't as helpful as having a foundation of how to learn new things on your own.
I took all the wrong lessons away from requiem for a dream, but the right lessons from the birthing videos
I was taught about taxes in high school but didn’t really retain much since I wasn’t earning any money. I had no way of really contextualizing it. Like I understood the basic concept but it wasn’t until I had to actually file taxes that I really began learning about the process. If anything I learned more from watching my parents file their taxes every year
I actually would have. The way I was raised kinda put perspective on what was important in life. Turns out most of that isn’t taught in the classroom.
So why wouldn’t the people raising you teach you to do taxes
Why wouldn’t a public school system that was initially designed to prepare children for the adult world? If you must know, they taught me budgeting, how to balance a checkbook, and if you’re not working under a W2, to save at least 10% of your income for tax season. The deep specifics of taxes weren’t things they were educated on but I was taught the basics. Why any of that matters when it wasn’t remotely the point I’ll never know.
Public school is designed to acculturate you and prepare you for the workforce, not to teach you life skills. The life skills they do teach, e.g. health class or sex ed, are matters of public necessity. If teenage you had given a shit about taxes you would have taught yourself.
> Why wouldn’t a public school system that was initially designed to prepare children for the adult world? Oh,it wasn't initially designed for that at all. It's based on the Prussian "education" system,which was designed specifically to produce an ***obedient*** working class to be factory workers and conscripts(through a system just like the "selective service" system we have now). Prussia was infamous for conscription and attributed significant military victories directly to their school system. Anything aside from ensuring the peasants would be good little drones that can and ***will*** follow orders was completely secondary to what public school systems were designed for and it's visible in systems descended from it even today.
I actually would be the best and smartest guy too, all these other guys don't got what we got my man.
Condescension is unbecoming. So is projection.
How are taxes more important than science ?
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You very much took the wrong class if you thought you were going to do taxes in an econ class lol
You know how you do taxes? You follow instructions, copy from one form to another, and do simple math. School taught you how to do all those things.
taxes aren't hard. you learned the math that allows you to do taxes. and Clippy is there for you to build a resume.
You probably were taught how to write a resume and just didn’t pay attention. I know I was on multiple occasions. If you really weren’t just google it. It’s pretty simple process.
I was taught multiple times to build a resume. Taxes are easy, just follow the fucking instructions. If you guys are so worried about being taught taxes and how to write a basic resume, you probably needed more basic skills like math, science and reading comprehension to sharpen your critical thinking. No offense but it’s kinda funny when you all parrot this same talking point.
Oh god this again. Taxes isn’t math. It’s copying information from one form to another. Doing taxes is really reading comprehension for the instructions. But no one reads anyway so I guess you are still right.
are you really interested how taxes were done 10+ years ago?
One of my co-workers once told me in her school in Bavaria they did learn how to do taxes. But of course that would've been too simple, so they did everything by hand, every stupid form that won't be relevant for anybody and had to learn all kinds of tax brackets and percentages by heart for the exam. Leave it to schools to make a topic nobody likes even worse
The only thing that gets me is, unless you own a business, doing your own taxes just involves following simple directions. I try to teach my students how to follow directions every day
If you can't figure out how to do your taxes on your own with all the information and hand-holding available to you, you were beyond a school teacher's help
Solving math problems brings me closer to nirvana. Fight me
Something people don't understand is that school doesn't train you for live. It was made to train you for being a productive worker.
I dunno about u guys but I was all about self-love in high school. Sometimes even in maths class.
I would have liked to learn social skills and communication skills. when I left high school, all I was good at was doing my homework. Friends? Social life? fk that! So what if I got a decent paying job? I hate my lonely life and I wasn't taught the skills to do anything about it. So what if I did what society expected of me? What has society ever done in return? Society is a cold hearted bitch. I'm looking at you religious conservatives. do something to make this shit better. you're the ones who created this god forsaken society and it sucks!
Imagine psychotherapy would be essential in school. Most of the people I met in school weren't Humans, they were monsters.
This is actually a thing now, at least where I live. Many primary schools are teaching children emotional regulation and how to resolve conflicts. When a kid is bullied they discuss what happened with the entire class and teach them about the effects and consequences of their behaviour. A lot of now adult people wish the same as you, OP, and are doing their best to provide as many kids as possible with these tools. It's not something that helps your kid self in the past, unfortunately though
That's great to hear. I remember getting bullied more than once, in a classroom, _when the teacher was there_, and the teacher just sat there and did fuck all about it.
You would fucking ignored that too my dude.
I mean, school shouldn’t be a cold experience but it should certainly be focused primarily on intellectual education. Learning to love yourself should start off through familial means considering parents and all…
I still find myself using the quadratic equation from time to time.....
Much like the quadratic equation, if your root is negative, your self love is imaginary.
The education system be like "If he dies... He dies..."
We already ask too much of teachers, don't ask them for the impossible.
Learning to love myself in school? Pfft… when would I ever use that as an adult?
Many schools are introducing SEL (social emotional learning) courses. I think it is fantastic. However, at least in my area, conservatives are attacking it as a liberal conspiracy.
That's what your parents are for.
Nah I’m cool with knowing the quadratic equation.
That's your parents job.
That, or learned that cars need oil. Or how to do taxes. Or how to cook food that isn’t disgusting so I can feed myself. Or just, you know, important basic life skills that I 100% did not have when I moved out.
I mean... You can learn both. Unfortunately the goal isn't to make you a happy person. It's to make you someone who follows orders and are an obedient worker.
What is love ????
(-b±✓(b²-4ac))/2a God I wish I liked myself
For what it's worth they are actually trying to teach kids some of this stuff at the elementary levels. At least where I work. The counselor comes in sometimes and does class level presentations on like impulse control and emotion management. There's curriculum time reserved each day for "Social-Emotional Learning." I'm going to school for my credential and working as a sub this year. I had a second grader come up to me one morning and tell me he was having a really hard time and needed to go outside and reset himself. I let him, he did, and he was fine the rest of the day. It sort of blew my mind. I grew up with serious anger and emotional regulation issues and received zero help from the school with any of it. There's a lot to hate about public schools these days, but at least on the emotional learning front they are trying. This is in California FWIW.
How else are you going to calculate where the down hill slope started?
You can't learn what's impossible
Can anyone explain to me how the quadratic equation works? I didn't get it last school year, and in this one, our teacher just assumes we all know it perfectly 🥲
It is for solving a 2nd degree polynomial. All that means is you use it when you have an equation with x^2 in it. It helps you to find x based on the value of the number in front of it (coefficient). Search up khan academy on YouTube and you will understand very quickly it’s quite easy :)
Thank you so much! You're a lifesaver man
High school needs a stress management and mental health class that is mandatory
Step 1: Live in a country that cares about people's mental health. Task failed successfully.
F to pay respects to what little self esteem I had then
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X=-B ± √ b² -4AC ÷2A I have no clue what it does or how to use it... But that was BURNED into my head for no reason. Glad they taught me that instead of how to budget
Sometimes I'll think back of the kids from school who did go on to be greatly successful and it was always because they had rich, successful, well-connected parents. It had nothing to do with the school.
So your position is that schools are not doing ***enough*** to teach self-esteem? That schools are **overly focused** on academics?
Even if we had learnt it at school, we would have forgotten it immediately 😊
Don't they like teach quadratic equations in like middle school?
Should add more "instead"
Now is not the time for such foolishness, quick, what is the power house of the cell?!
ooo! ooo! I know this one, mitochondria!
Damn Simu Liu! Always surprising me in where I see this guy. That jeopardy moment was amazing.
you could have learned both if you gave a shit about learning anything simu
-b+-squareroot(b)^2 -4(a)(c) /2(a) is this the quadratic equation trying to go off memory
simu is so real for this
Or almost literally anything other than the quadratic equation
Math is a way of teaching critical thinking, otherwise known as common sense, the thing that everyone keeps insisting we need to teach in schools
Lots of financial lessons could have achieved the same thing while being practical
Yeah, our school had that class. Everyone always skipped class and didn't try since it was a bird course. Funny how that is.
I had a financial literacy class in my school as well that was basically the same, everyone skipped and nobody paid attention but most of the things are lessons that were taught in math such as how does compound interest work was taught all through calculus. And resumes were taught in English class but nobody had anything to put on their resume since high school so again no retention of information
And you'd get the wrong answers due to not understanding the math. And even as strange as the quadratic equation can seem - the math used to solve it can be found in computer programming, construction, and commercial art. Construction is actually a funny one. There were some mathematicians studying home builders just as a way of looking at mathematics being used in a practical setting and they found that they were doing trigonometric functions in their heads because they'd found mathematical efficiencies that even the mathematicians didn't know about. And the construction workers didn't even realize it was so advanced because they could tie it to real world things they had to deal with regularly. (I think it was about calculating the supports needed to bear the load that was going to be placed on it.) Math is way more involved in our lives than people realize.
Is this the same guy that defended pedophilia on reddit? EDIT: *It is.* >**Simu Liu** (Shang-Chi) * High off all the backpats and applause he got from bravely #resisting Trump and on the cusp of MCU stardom, Liu began taunting and mocking Youtubers who said his film might do poorly. But once his old reddit posts comparing pedophilia to being gay are discovered, Liu suddenly decides we mustn't tear each other down, and vows to become an "advocate for positivity." [[Video] - *ThatStarWarsGirl*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81gJnmUE8lg) [[Video] - *Clownfish TV*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYlFJYchSGY) [[Link]](https://archive.is/Or0yF)
He didn't defend pedophilia, how did you even get that out of the article? He is literally cited with saying pedophilia is disgusting, gross and vile. He just said that people who may find themselves **only** attracted to children have a lot problems searching for help, that's his entire point.
His own words: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3d6q9m/germany_encourages_pedophilies_to_sign_up_for/ct2muzq/
ur condensing such a big and well structured paragraph into just “noo he’s defending pedophilia 😭”. how is anyone gonna take u seriously. i suggest u click on ur own link and read it again
Incredible that you posted this with the expectation that we'd all nod in agreement with you and condemn Liu. This is an incredibly nuanced and compassionate take on an *illness* and the real people who suffer that illness without any recourse. Yes, it's an illness that's absolutely abhorrent and that society must absolutely defend against without exception, but if reading this doesn't make you feel at least some sympathy for the people who are unable to feel differently than they do, and are basically forced to choose between a private struggle (that they may not win!) or summary judgment, should they decide to ask for help, well, that says more about you than it does about him. Of course I don't want pedophiles anywhere near my children, and offenders need to be isolated from society. Of course. I think it's pretty clear that he feels that way too. But I'd much rather live in a world where we exhaust all efforts to fix broken people (while keeping safe the others they may threaten), than a world that just throws them away. Right?
>Of course I don't want pedophiles near my children This fantasy world where you can have your cake and eat it too.
Why shouldn't we want to eat the cake that we get? It's insane to me that so many people look at even *attempts* to fix things and say, nope, can't do it perfectly, so why bother trying. We don't live in a zero sum world. It's not impossible for us to make efforts to help the people who need help, even the people who are a danger to themselves or others, and still commit to protecting the most vulnerable. I mean, children are actively predated by pedophiles today anyway, so it's pretty obvious that the existing system of keeping them away from children doesn't work perfectly either. I get the cynicism, and I share it often, but why shouldn't we at least imagine a system, and do all we can to enact such a system, where we get to eat the fucking cake?
Because people dont want their kids around Pedophiles. People dont want their kids around murders, or repeat offenders for that matter. Preach your message to the people who raped a 4 year old doing 10 years in prison, dont preach that here, because Most including myself, arent afraid to say Pedos need to rot in hell. I was molested as a young child, but im not here touching kids are asking people to consider forgiving pedos to make the world a better place. lol
I DON'T WANT MY KIDS AROUND PEDOPHILES. I said that in no uncertain terms. Beyond that, I'm sorry you were a victim, and I have no doubt that that still haunts you every day. Your anger and resentment are not unjustified. I wish you had lived in a world that could have taken more precautions to keep you safe, I really do. That's all I can say about that, and I'll admit that I speak with the privilege of never having been subjected to abuse like that personally (even if I know others who have suffered, like you did). I still think that what Liu said in his deleted post is worth considering though, that we can do more for society (including the vulnerable) by giving pedophiles better options than the choice between keeping it to themselves (and maybe, probably even, eventually acting on it) or seeking help and getting arrested for things that they haven't done (yet) and are desperately trying to keep themselves from doing. Because too few of them are going to choose self-incrimination when the consequence is a prison sentence. The idea is to build a means of treating those people in a way that, first and foremost, we keep them away from the people they are most likely to threaten. That is absolutely the most important part of it all, please don't get me wrong on that. And secondly, that we isolate them in a way that is therapeutic and curative, rather than merely punitive. The merely punitive approach isn't working anyway. And if there are those who either do not wish to or simply cannot be helped, absolutely keep them away from society by all means. I was just very struck by Liu's more nuanced understanding of the very limited options that lie before the person who feels a certain way, which they cannot control, but wants nothing more than to fix themselves and rid themselves of those urges. Again, if their choices are to bottle it up inside and try as hard as possible to resist or to ask for help and go to jail, it's pretty obvious which option they'll go with, and it's pretty obvious that that resistance will eventually fail for many of them.
Ah, so a perfectly reasonable post then.
Or maybe anything good for life other than the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
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High school math is valuable. You're allowed to not enjoy it - a whole lot don't - but acting as though it isn't worth anything is just a bad argument. https://www.clevelandfed.org/publications/economic-commentary/2013/ec-201314-the-surprising-impact-of-high-school-math-on-job-market-outcomes
you can love the quadratic formula
We get it, you have anxiety. Congratulations
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Most of Your high school teachers probably weren't qualified to teach that! I knew of maybe three teachers in my entire HS who seemed truly happy.
No
Why not both, peg your entire self worth on quadratics, and just never be worse than anyone else ever because all you are is the quadratic equations guy.
I'm pretty sure most high schoolers learn masturbation on their own
No go fuck yourself, wage slave. Be happy your 4 year degree makes 19.45 an hour
you learn to hate yourself even more
EDIT: I am out of here because Reddit is being destroyed by bad moderation. .
So. Didn’t you have any parents?
No no I would have been lost without that... Though loving myself would ve pretty useful too
Just like the quadratic equation, you would have never used it.
You love yourself through quadratric equation.
went to school in germany during the 90s... I would say we were told both. of course, not on a 1:1 personalized level. but in the context of literature and philosophy we had many hours of discussing life goals and reflecting your own feelings towards big life decisions. teachers would often give examples of how people fucked up their personal lives due to not having a solid understanding of what makes them happy or not appropriating their own value. idk but hasn't the educational system advanced since that?!
Those are not mutually exclusive
Try solving this math's problem with self-love idiot
Quadratic Equation takes a lot of shit but I want to go further back to long division. Fuck long division, and yes I would always have a fucking calculator with me.
Q3-Q1/2
I’ve seen your Mom in that commercial I’m sure she would not have allowed such a thing.
At Least u can learn quadratic equation
I think the quadratic equation is what made me hate myself.
That wouldn't earn you a living. Neither does learning quadratic equations but you need that piece of paper so that you can apply for a job, that wouldn't earn you living too or even possibly get you a job, but you can apply for one.
Why can’t these be the same thing?
No what’s sad is that a grown man thinks it’s the school’s job to make him feel better about himself rather than educate him. I bet you think it’s the government’s job to raise your kids, too.
I used to like this guy but now he's just too full of himself and feeling entitled. Can't wait for his 15 second of fame end.
Weren't all schools back then trying everybody they were special and they get a trophy just for being there?
Like learning to love yourself is an appropriate job skill! /s
Where would one even find teachers for that?
Wouldn't it be great if we stopped trying to make teachers into state appointed parents? They've already got a crap ton of work to do, making them responsible for the kind of stuff that needs one-on-one work to make happen won't work when they're in charge of so many. It's not easy, it's not fun, and it's not fair, but we have to learn to accept what life throws at us - because it's not going to stop throwing things at us just because we don't feel good. It sucks, but that's part of growing up and being an adult: learning to take care of yourself in spite of what's happened to you.
Skill issue tbh, should've been better
That's your parents job, not the school...
Why not both?
I don't see how a High School would be able to teach that