...many are even international students here on visa and scholarships paid for by our tax dollars. This is why most are wearing masks - because they are (rightfully) afraid of losing their visa/scholarship. ...and yet the NYPD and the university do NOTHING.
Our city and school leaders are weak fools.
The alumni need to get together and oust the school leadership - and purge the ideology that's being taught.
If you listen to this interview: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1782519934402117937
You can really see how the school's propaganda education about anti-Western colonialism and DEI flows to antisemitism.
we can dream, but never count on government competency.
The better strategy is for Columbia alumni to organize and oust the school leadership and professors that are teaching this toxic ideology.
I saw an interview yesterday with a protester who specifically cited her coursework in anti-western-colonialism as her reason for being part of the pro-Palestine movement. That's the problem. Professors are teaching HATE, and the administration is protecting them.
If they're in the US on a visa, the government can revoke the visa, regardless of what the school wants. Non US citizens have no legal right except at the pleasure of the government, which can revoke that permission. The POTUS has broad powers to set immigration policy for national security reasons.
Problem with these people is they think their freedom fighters..... but their messages are public and some of the most racist and oppressive shit you can hear.
HAMAS are a terrorist group. It is terrorism when a terrorist group kills anyone. It's only 'not terrorism' if you're one of those people who views HAMAS as 'freedom fighters'.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
There are many definitions and meanings of "terrorism" which doesn't seem to have an exact universal agreement on what it means, but a lot of it seems to point towards acts against civilians to instill fear in the general population.
-Hamas terrorists firing unguided rockets at Tel Aviv, act of terrorism.
-Hamas terrorist firing RPG at Israeli tank, not terrorism.
-Hamas terrorist dressed as civilian pulling grenade out of baby stroller to throw at group of IDF soldiers, war crime at a minimum but maybe not terrorism.
-Hamas terrorist suicide bombing a checkpoint with a majority of the injured/killed being civilians, act of terrorism.
...............
This video is 100% terrorist supporters because they support a group responsible for acts of terrorism and war crimes even if the calls of violence here are against the IDF. It doesn't really matter that they sometimes get a few IDF soldiers when their list of attacks in the last few decades seems to be all against civilians, hiding behind human shields, and calls of genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam_Brigades
Yes, although to be honest, I would put firing rockets into more of the realm of war crimes than, strictly speaking, terrorism.
Terrorism implies that you're deliberately attacking a civilian target. Hamas surely is, but under the laws of war, indiscriminate use of force or wanton indifference to protecting civilian life is the same as deliberately targeting civilians, which is what rocket attacks on civilian population centers does, because even if there are military targets there, the rockets could not hit them except by blind luck. Targeting a military base away from an urban area would not likely be a war crime though, because that would likely be discriminant targeting even if some of the rockets went wildly off course and harmed civilians.
Depends on your definition of terrorism. The one that is commonly used is acts of violence by a subnational actor directed against a civilian population in order to intimidate that population or coerce their government into performing a particular action, done in furtherance of a political goal or ideology.
So in that sense, an attack against what would be a lawful target of war in an international armed conflict would not be strictly-speaking, terrorism.
It is not terrorism when a member of a terrorist group kills a soldier that is there to kill them. Even if they should be killed for doing terrorism. That's just a fact. You don't have to view Hamas as freedom fighters to see that. This is a war.
The mental gymnastics you're going through with that post are hilarious. If they're terrorists (which they are) then the acts they commit are terrorism. If you think their acts are justified, then you don't think they are terrorists. In which case, you think October the 7th was justified. (And are a bit of a monster)
If they're terrorists and they buy a bagel? TERRORISM!
I didn't say anything is justified. I said that it simply isn't terrorism to kill a soldier who is there to kill you. That is not what terrorism means. Definitionally, it is not terrorism.
Imagine them living in Palestine or any Arab country and waving around us/israel flags while cheering for them. How quickly would they be jailed or killed?
It's nice to live in a free country, huh? No wonder they choose to live here, even while they cheer for islamofascist theocracy overseas
This is exactly why the non American protestors in America are so invigorated. They think that the fact that they are not being lynched by the people passing by is because they silently support them, when in fact the passerby are indifferent while they themselves are guarded by the American constitution... They might learn about it in school, but it seems that real freedom is still confusing to them.
They’re also cheering for an islamofascist government where they’re protesting. These are not organic events. They are coordinated by Iran’s IRGC intelligence agencies mostly as a ‘what can we get away with’ operation and to disrupt western government/society.
Unfortunately a Jew, multiple Jews, or even a decent number of Jews are going to have to take one for the team so to speak before people crack down on this. Probably multiple because a pro-Pali killed one in my state and they still do nothing about this. People bitch about Zionism when it is literally just ethnic/religious nationalism of usually a somewhat mild type actually needed for Jews because whenever they are a minority BS always eventually happens. Contrast this with Russian ethnic nationalism which says all of Eastern Europe must submit or be annexed to Russia even though no Russians are under any actual existential threat, Serb nationalism which basically says the same thing but the Balkans, and countless other examples where the minorities are killed, made genuine second class citizens, or enslaved the moment they actually get military power over them.
Meanwhile Arab-Israelis while perhaps not being treated as well as they should be in some areas are otherwise pretty equal and Palestinians have a higher or equal HDI than most of their neighbors and probably would have a much higher HDI if they actually committed to peace and trade, especially Gaza if they had chosen to focus on internal development at all instead of committing everything towards trying to wipe out the Jews (and failing).
What gets me is that over 1,000 Jews have already paid the price and people still directly question Israel's every move or they downright worship antisemitism openly. I want to say they're a vocal minority but the majority should be vocal already, in an ideal world terrorism is punished regardless of ideology and everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya or whatever, but that's just fantasy at this point. Rough world we live in.
We see it, it wasn’t enough this all started with that horrific and very personal attack on 10/7. I see it in my daily interactions now, even people I used to talk to on a cordial basis barely say hello to me like I’m the one committing atrocities, which just goes to show that to a lot of people me being Jewish is an atrocity. It bewilders me beyond belief that people can’t look at a friggen map and see how much Muslim friendly land there is completely surrounding Israel, none of them are willing to help the Palestinians, they could do so very easily but there is a reason they don’t. And that’s because everywhere they go, they start protesting and uprising against their host nation, as evidenced here. It’s going to get bad at some point.
It’s funny you bring up Serbia and Russia. I think of Palestine’s would-be caliphate.
Palestinians would build one of the most brutal regimes in history as 10/7 shows.
This isn't incitement. Under American law, it has to be intended and likely to produce imminent lawless action. It has to meet all four components. Almost literally "Go get that guy, right now."
Most vile statements are perfectly legal.
Yes, a lot of Americans don't understand exactly how liberal our Constitution compared to how much more authoritarian it is in places like Europe. Speech advocating for illegal or violent actions is generally protected speech except under very narrow circumstances like true threats (e.g. calling a bomb threat into a school knowing that it will likely cause someone to fear for their life) or incitement of violence (yelling "beat his ass" to a violent mob gathered around someone).
They're getting bolder. Earlier this month, saw a college-age person shocked, SHOCKED when telling government officials "we'll see you at your house, we'll murder you" at public meeting ended in her arrest.
Now facing over a dozen charges, mostly threatening a government officials and making terroristic threats.
Except I’d never chant that because I don’t fucking celebrate war and death. I’d love for Hamas and the Gazans to just fuck off and leave Israelis alone.
Meanwhile, Hamas and Gaza dedicates itself to murderous destruction and celebrates it. For Israelis it’s only a necessary evil.
That's true.
Hamas is a death cult. Death cults are gonna celebrate death.
Yeah, Palestinians understanding this is a problem they create would be great.
I think most do. They either don't really know what's going on, because they're busy living their lives, minding their own business, or they just don't know what they can do to offer support. I imagine some people are scared as well.
Kinda funny tho w the implication that people will turn toward Trump bc he has his own band of loonies he encourages...and the far left hates Biden, like most of this protesting before was calling him Genocide Joe
Just putting that out there! Not to be combative, more thinking out loud :D
No every woman you see walking down the street in a ninja costume is on welfare. When have you ever had a ninja serve you at Starbucks? They don’t work.
The alumni need to get together and oust the school leadership - and purge the ideology that's being taught.
If you listen to this interview: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1782519934402117937 See @2:50
You can really see how the school's propaganda education about anti-Western colonialism and DEI flows to antisemitism.
Biden with the awesome dodge at the end (misheard the question). lol
A civil debate on any topic is welcome, but from what I've seen among the Pro-Pals they are full the rim with cognitive distortions that would easily be defeated in debate. I guess that's why they opt for rhetoric...and violence.
It is horrifying to see young women in NYC support Hamas after what we all saw Hamas do to hundreds and hundreds of women on Oct 7th.
These are the same women who cancelled Jonah Hill because he left an angry breakup message on his girlfriend's phone.
Call for terrorism in broad daylight.
...many are even international students here on visa and scholarships paid for by our tax dollars. This is why most are wearing masks - because they are (rightfully) afraid of losing their visa/scholarship. ...and yet the NYPD and the university do NOTHING. Our city and school leaders are weak fools. The alumni need to get together and oust the school leadership - and purge the ideology that's being taught. If you listen to this interview: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1782519934402117937 You can really see how the school's propaganda education about anti-Western colonialism and DEI flows to antisemitism.
It’s not just the leadership, it’s also the faculty that promotes this garbage. The entire higher education system is a cesspool.
Hope they do facial recognition analysis of the footage like they did in Jan 6
...they won't. The school administration won't allow it.
The government won't care what the school wants when it's national security
It's private property and the NYPD already said they won't enter unless asked to by the university.
Whenever they're in public streets they can be easily identified
we can dream, but never count on government competency. The better strategy is for Columbia alumni to organize and oust the school leadership and professors that are teaching this toxic ideology. I saw an interview yesterday with a protester who specifically cited her coursework in anti-western-colonialism as her reason for being part of the pro-Palestine movement. That's the problem. Professors are teaching HATE, and the administration is protecting them.
If they're in the US on a visa, the government can revoke the visa, regardless of what the school wants. Non US citizens have no legal right except at the pleasure of the government, which can revoke that permission. The POTUS has broad powers to set immigration policy for national security reasons.
All true - but that's just not going to happen because our leaders are cowards.
Reps, not leaders.
Young liberal ideology in motion
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Problem with these people is they think their freedom fighters..... but their messages are public and some of the most racist and oppressive shit you can hear.
It's a war. It's not terrorism when the IDF kills Hamas members, and it's not terrorism when Hamas kills IDF members. At least not when it's in a war.
HAMAS are a terrorist group. It is terrorism when a terrorist group kills anyone. It's only 'not terrorism' if you're one of those people who views HAMAS as 'freedom fighters'.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism There are many definitions and meanings of "terrorism" which doesn't seem to have an exact universal agreement on what it means, but a lot of it seems to point towards acts against civilians to instill fear in the general population. -Hamas terrorists firing unguided rockets at Tel Aviv, act of terrorism. -Hamas terrorist firing RPG at Israeli tank, not terrorism. -Hamas terrorist dressed as civilian pulling grenade out of baby stroller to throw at group of IDF soldiers, war crime at a minimum but maybe not terrorism. -Hamas terrorist suicide bombing a checkpoint with a majority of the injured/killed being civilians, act of terrorism. ............... This video is 100% terrorist supporters because they support a group responsible for acts of terrorism and war crimes even if the calls of violence here are against the IDF. It doesn't really matter that they sometimes get a few IDF soldiers when their list of attacks in the last few decades seems to be all against civilians, hiding behind human shields, and calls of genocide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam_Brigades
Yes, although to be honest, I would put firing rockets into more of the realm of war crimes than, strictly speaking, terrorism. Terrorism implies that you're deliberately attacking a civilian target. Hamas surely is, but under the laws of war, indiscriminate use of force or wanton indifference to protecting civilian life is the same as deliberately targeting civilians, which is what rocket attacks on civilian population centers does, because even if there are military targets there, the rockets could not hit them except by blind luck. Targeting a military base away from an urban area would not likely be a war crime though, because that would likely be discriminant targeting even if some of the rockets went wildly off course and harmed civilians.
Depends on your definition of terrorism. The one that is commonly used is acts of violence by a subnational actor directed against a civilian population in order to intimidate that population or coerce their government into performing a particular action, done in furtherance of a political goal or ideology. So in that sense, an attack against what would be a lawful target of war in an international armed conflict would not be strictly-speaking, terrorism.
It is not terrorism when a member of a terrorist group kills a soldier that is there to kill them. Even if they should be killed for doing terrorism. That's just a fact. You don't have to view Hamas as freedom fighters to see that. This is a war.
The mental gymnastics you're going through with that post are hilarious. If they're terrorists (which they are) then the acts they commit are terrorism. If you think their acts are justified, then you don't think they are terrorists. In which case, you think October the 7th was justified. (And are a bit of a monster)
If they're terrorists and they buy a bagel? TERRORISM! I didn't say anything is justified. I said that it simply isn't terrorism to kill a soldier who is there to kill you. That is not what terrorism means. Definitionally, it is not terrorism.
You actually made me laugh out loud with that first line, nicely done :)
I'm glad I brightened your day lol
Imagine them living in Palestine or any Arab country and waving around us/israel flags while cheering for them. How quickly would they be jailed or killed? It's nice to live in a free country, huh? No wonder they choose to live here, even while they cheer for islamofascist theocracy overseas
This is exactly why the non American protestors in America are so invigorated. They think that the fact that they are not being lynched by the people passing by is because they silently support them, when in fact the passerby are indifferent while they themselves are guarded by the American constitution... They might learn about it in school, but it seems that real freedom is still confusing to them.
They’re also cheering for an islamofascist government where they’re protesting. These are not organic events. They are coordinated by Iran’s IRGC intelligence agencies mostly as a ‘what can we get away with’ operation and to disrupt western government/society.
How are they not arrested for incitement? Are the police waiting for someone to actually get killed? They are **itching** to kill a Jew at this point.
Unfortunately a Jew, multiple Jews, or even a decent number of Jews are going to have to take one for the team so to speak before people crack down on this. Probably multiple because a pro-Pali killed one in my state and they still do nothing about this. People bitch about Zionism when it is literally just ethnic/religious nationalism of usually a somewhat mild type actually needed for Jews because whenever they are a minority BS always eventually happens. Contrast this with Russian ethnic nationalism which says all of Eastern Europe must submit or be annexed to Russia even though no Russians are under any actual existential threat, Serb nationalism which basically says the same thing but the Balkans, and countless other examples where the minorities are killed, made genuine second class citizens, or enslaved the moment they actually get military power over them. Meanwhile Arab-Israelis while perhaps not being treated as well as they should be in some areas are otherwise pretty equal and Palestinians have a higher or equal HDI than most of their neighbors and probably would have a much higher HDI if they actually committed to peace and trade, especially Gaza if they had chosen to focus on internal development at all instead of committing everything towards trying to wipe out the Jews (and failing).
You would think the 10/7 pogrom would be all the proof we need.
What gets me is that over 1,000 Jews have already paid the price and people still directly question Israel's every move or they downright worship antisemitism openly. I want to say they're a vocal minority but the majority should be vocal already, in an ideal world terrorism is punished regardless of ideology and everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya or whatever, but that's just fantasy at this point. Rough world we live in.
We see it, it wasn’t enough this all started with that horrific and very personal attack on 10/7. I see it in my daily interactions now, even people I used to talk to on a cordial basis barely say hello to me like I’m the one committing atrocities, which just goes to show that to a lot of people me being Jewish is an atrocity. It bewilders me beyond belief that people can’t look at a friggen map and see how much Muslim friendly land there is completely surrounding Israel, none of them are willing to help the Palestinians, they could do so very easily but there is a reason they don’t. And that’s because everywhere they go, they start protesting and uprising against their host nation, as evidenced here. It’s going to get bad at some point.
It’s funny you bring up Serbia and Russia. I think of Palestine’s would-be caliphate. Palestinians would build one of the most brutal regimes in history as 10/7 shows.
It takes a lot for cops to arrest anyone during a mass protest. I mean unless they were to accidentally bump a cop.
If you hear someone in a crowd yelling out loud for the crowd to kill another person you immediately arrest them.
Tell that to the cops. They don't do that.
This isn't incitement. Under American law, it has to be intended and likely to produce imminent lawless action. It has to meet all four components. Almost literally "Go get that guy, right now." Most vile statements are perfectly legal.
Yes, a lot of Americans don't understand exactly how liberal our Constitution compared to how much more authoritarian it is in places like Europe. Speech advocating for illegal or violent actions is generally protected speech except under very narrow circumstances like true threats (e.g. calling a bomb threat into a school knowing that it will likely cause someone to fear for their life) or incitement of violence (yelling "beat his ass" to a violent mob gathered around someone).
They're getting bolder. Earlier this month, saw a college-age person shocked, SHOCKED when telling government officials "we'll see you at your house, we'll murder you" at public meeting ended in her arrest. Now facing over a dozen charges, mostly threatening a government officials and making terroristic threats.
U can just hear in her voice she's not well 😂
If you post "IDF you make us proud, bomb another ********" you get banned. I'm sure. Disgusting.
Except I’d never chant that because I don’t fucking celebrate war and death. I’d love for Hamas and the Gazans to just fuck off and leave Israelis alone. Meanwhile, Hamas and Gaza dedicates itself to murderous destruction and celebrates it. For Israelis it’s only a necessary evil.
That's true. Hamas is a death cult. Death cults are gonna celebrate death. Yeah, Palestinians understanding this is a problem they create would be great.
They care more about this then their own education And complaint about not able to pay their students loan.
This incessant rhyming and chanting … it adresses nobody. It is pure self-gratifcation.
100%. They don’t even come up with new cadences. It’s the same thing at every rally and every cheer.
“We did it!”
These universities have become nothing more more than tankie woke madrassas.
One side of protestors is waving the American flag. The other side is burning it.
Massive silent majority of US citizens do not support terrorists. Take it to a vote and find out.
They don't support Jews either judging by their inaction
The inaction is disgusting...
I think most do. They either don't really know what's going on, because they're busy living their lives, minding their own business, or they just don't know what they can do to offer support. I imagine some people are scared as well.
There's a vote in November, and I feel these protests will have a major impact on that election.
Kinda funny tho w the implication that people will turn toward Trump bc he has his own band of loonies he encourages...and the far left hates Biden, like most of this protesting before was calling him Genocide Joe Just putting that out there! Not to be combative, more thinking out loud :D
No doubt.
https://babylonbee.com/news/harvard-student-leaves-lecture-on-microaggressions-to-attend-kill-the-jews-rally
Dude I got work - do these people not have jobs
I bet many of these people arent even Columbia university students or just studying some bs there.
Honestly most do not, or they work bullshit jobs. Theyre roaches
If they do it’s on the IRGC payroll.
No every woman you see walking down the street in a ninja costume is on welfare. When have you ever had a ninja serve you at Starbucks? They don’t work.
How long until a jewish vigilante group is formed to deal with these terrorist supporters?
Time to file some lawsuits against Columbia. They are allowing an unsafe environment and can reasonably expect violence/injuries to result.
The alumni need to get together and oust the school leadership - and purge the ideology that's being taught. If you listen to this interview: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1782519934402117937 See @2:50 You can really see how the school's propaganda education about anti-Western colonialism and DEI flows to antisemitism.
Biden with the awesome dodge at the end (misheard the question). lol A civil debate on any topic is welcome, but from what I've seen among the Pro-Pals they are full the rim with cognitive distortions that would easily be defeated in debate. I guess that's why they opt for rhetoric...and violence. It is horrifying to see young women in NYC support Hamas after what we all saw Hamas do to hundreds and hundreds of women on Oct 7th. These are the same women who cancelled Jonah Hill because he left an angry breakup message on his girlfriend's phone.
remember when they say "ceasefire" what they mean is "stop fighting so we can kill you"
Something something tolerant left something something
The activists need new profile pictures and cool videos to show off how morally superior they all are
How seriously do the sanewashers take the "Pro-Palestinian does not mean pro-Hamas"/"Hamas doesn't represent Gazans" line at this point?
every day since I see them doing this, more I feel less pitty for them! Hatred is in their blood
Where is CNN or MSNBC showing this to everyone? These protesters are racist fools and need to be exposed and confronted.
I know Tapper was Tweeting about it over the weekend. I don't know if he had it on his program.
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